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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 8:59pm On May 20, 2021 |
kabe1: The NAF JF-17 is a 4.5 GEN Jet. Pls be specific. The pilot is a seasoned aviator to know enough not to say otherwise in world view. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 9:01pm On May 20, 2021 |
kabe1: That documentary showed you installation and activation modules not the active cockpit. The important aspects of this Jet are still classified. You can't claim anything to the contrary. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 9:04pm On May 20, 2021 |
Commander Madara Mountain among others. lol. these guys are funny |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:09pm On May 20, 2021 |
Covert1: Stop trying to be smart by half. You claimed NAF did not show cockpit and MFD. I proved this was false, you're now shifting goal post. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by AskiaHarem(m): 9:12pm On May 20, 2021 |
Future military expenditure projection following post 2020 growth patterns. Yes I'm aware you can't always take projections to literally I just think it's interesting food for thought.
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:13pm On May 20, 2021 |
Covert1: The only 4.5 JF-17 available anywhere in the world is a flying prototype currently stationed at Catic in China. It's not in the Pakistani air force, Chinese Air Force and certainly not in Nigeria. That pilot was wrong to refer to the JF-17 as a 4.5 gen aircraft. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Hennynitan(m): 9:24pm On May 20, 2021 |
kabe1:Hmmmmm... So should we believe kabe or the Nigerian air force pilot that is flying the jet? If the pilot is wrong then it's a disgrace to the air force that its pilot don't know the type of aircraft he was trained to fly. Like that should be a basic 101 knowledge in his training course for this jet |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by demolition: 9:27pm On May 20, 2021 |
Hennynitan: The question is, do you believe the manufacturer or the pilot? Even the Pakistanis don't fly any 4.5gen jf 17 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Hennynitan(m): 9:34pm On May 20, 2021 |
demolition:The job of a pilot is likened to the job of a doctor. Any small mistake is disastrous. If this is true then that pilots training should be questioned and he should be returned to train afresh. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 9:35pm On May 20, 2021 |
kabe1: Really, are you serious, how dare you! Kabe1 just claimed on Nairaland a fighter pilot don't know the machine he is flying and he kabe1 knows better. Well thank God I have enough sense to know you have just made a full time mockery of yourself before the whole world. Therefore your assertion is not only wrong, amateurish, ignoble, ignorant but patently irrelevant and of no consequence. You can accept what works in your world to sleep. That fighter pilot migrated from the F7-Ni to the JF-17N Thunder and knows exactly what he is saying without mincing words and I believe him totally. When you graduate first from basic flying and prove it then I'll listen to you. Right now you are nothing more than just an internet military enthusiast who is ignorant. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 9:35pm On May 20, 2021 |
kabe1:. Oga stop all this unnecessary argument. the pilot flying the j17 say that j17 is 4.5 generation jet. the last time i check you are not naf personal neither a commercial aviation pilot. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 9:36pm On May 20, 2021 |
Hennynitan: Question Kabe1 mentality not the fighter pilot |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 9:38pm On May 20, 2021 |
kabe1: I move no goal post, I'm sure of my minions. If a dark paneled cockpit with red blips indicates to you anything important then you need help. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:48pm On May 20, 2021 |
I just watched the documentary of the JF-17 induction and I happen to know pilot that introduced the aircraft (Squad Ldr Abatuba) it's him and his squad that crashed those F7s during a training exercise for independence day celebration I think in 2018 or so.. Man is a seasoned pilot, amongst the best fixed wing Pilots in the Airforce. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by mekussa(m): 9:49pm On May 20, 2021 |
The jf17 block 3 is classified as a 4.5 generation fighter. Nigeria bought block jf17A block 2s which isn't a 4.5 gen fighter. The pilot effed up. Simple 2 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by fabselad(m): 9:53pm On May 20, 2021 |
Covert1: I am not an aviator but lets call a spade a spade. The JF17 block 2 is a good aircraft but it isn't a Gen 4.5. I might not be an aviator but even the Pakistanis say it. 3 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ogaslot: 9:57pm On May 20, 2021 |
Which kind joke be this even a lame man no say j17 no be 4.5 gen jet JOSCOFELIX: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:59pm On May 20, 2021 |
fabselad:Those three aircrafts delivered to NAF are 4.5 generation aircraft, it was delivered on specifications, just confirmed from an instructor. Subsequent deliveries which have been negotiated for are Block 11 and 4th generation Aircrafts. 6 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by fabselad(m): 9:59pm On May 20, 2021 |
Covert1: LOL you amaze me bro. hahahah. So a pilot can't make a mistake due to being carried away by the euphoria of the ceremony. Some is telling you a the only JF17 considered as Gen 4.5 is block 3 not block 2 and you still argue. the only block 3 manufactured is still been tested. Show which article would call a JF17 block 2 a 4.5 gen aircraft. Soon you would start comparing those JF17s with SAAF SAAB Gripen.LOL 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by fabselad(m): 10:02pm On May 20, 2021 |
ugo4u: Can I ask you what are the requirements an aircraft must meet before categorizing an aircraft a 4.5 Gen? Do they have AESA radars? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 10:07pm On May 20, 2021 |
j17 with nigeria airforce is being built on specification. and that was the major reason they was a increase in cost. some of you lack some simple understanding , if the former cas say the j17 is an advance version , than who are you on narialand without a military or civilian background of jet or aircraft 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:10pm On May 20, 2021 |
fabselad: Really another ignorance on full display. Listen there's a lot of politics and marketing that goes into weapon sales. Your detractors want to downplay what you sell, the Americans, Chinese and Russians and contractors are all in the game. You are not a professional so quit copying and pasting. There's more than meets the eye in these matters. No unbiased expert will say the JF-17 Block 11 is a pure 4th Gen Aircraft. It is much more and in this case what Nigeria bought is not anyone's business but because its Nigeria now all the hype and bring the world down mentality. Myanmar bought didn't hear all this noise. And pls don't mention the SAAF Gripen it doesn't come close except you want to argue with yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:16pm On May 20, 2021 |
fabselad: The basics of that is what the fighter pilot just told you. AESA in lay mans terms simply means more difficult to counter and detect doesn't mean multi-mode doppeler radar is any less effective in air superiority warfare. The Pakistanis came up with an upper hand recently in aerial combat with the Indians. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by fabselad(m): 10:18pm On May 20, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: LoL so I must be a phone technician before knowing a difference between an Iphone and a samsung eh oga. I am asking if those JF17 have AESA radars? Advance datalink? Everywhere we read, it is said the only variant of the JF17 considered as gen 4.5 is the block 3, which is not yet operational and it is still tested in China. The radar used on the JF17 block 2 is the KLJ-7 V2, which is an upgrade of the KLJ-7 used in the block 1. THe KLJ-7-V2 is still a mechanically-steered planar array antenna and not an AESA. The KLJ-7 V2 is twice more powerful that the KLJ-7 and provides more fuctions and is more resistant to ECM. We are not saying the JF17 block 2 is bad but lets call a spade a spade bro. 5 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:20pm On May 20, 2021 |
ugo4u: And to think everyone around him including the Pakistanis were nodding in agreement to everything he said. We have to remind Nairalanders he was also trained by the Pakistanis on the JF-17 and knows better. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:20pm On May 20, 2021 |
Covert1: What is the point of this rant? The JF-17 is classified across the world as a light weight 4th generation aircraft. This designation would not change until the block 3 enters service. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:21pm On May 20, 2021 |
fabselad: The Block II JF-17 and SAAB Gripen C/D are in the same class. Light weight and 4 GEN. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:24pm On May 20, 2021 |
Hennynitan: You don't need to believe me. Carry out your own independent research, if any credible link you post refers to the Block II as a 4.5 gen aircraft, I will retract and issue an apology. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by fabselad(m): 10:25pm On May 20, 2021 |
Covert1: LoL an AESA radar is 10 times more effective than a mechanically-steered planar array. How can you say something which is hard to detect, has a better range in BVR mode, and more functionalities aren't better. Why are most aircraft upgrading to AESA or PESA radars. Because it provides better range, low detectability, less prone to failures, demands less maintenance between flights and is better resistant to ECM. Even the Pakistani say it themselves, the only GEn 4.5 is block 3. what more do you want to hear. The Americans or whosoever you have called are not biased because the definition of a gen 4.5 is global. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:32pm On May 20, 2021 |
kabe1: You do realise you're going to be talking to the same person, right? Augugu -> Supreme what what -> Covert -> Joscofelix(?) Wasn't sure about the latest iteration until he slipped up a few days ago and the diction mirrored the previous 3 characters. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 10:36pm On May 20, 2021 |
i can see that some people .............. so they can put aesa rader and advance equipment on a exiting structure?, so upgrade cannot done on platform with old structure?. your argument is baseless |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by fabselad(m): 10:38pm On May 20, 2021 |
kabe1: The KLJ-7 V2 has a range of 150 km in optimal conditions while the Ericsson PS-05/A is at 160km in optimal condition. the Thai airforce was able to defeat chinese J-11(modified su-27) in BVR exercises. Th ose J-11 used the NIIP N001 radar which bears similarities with the KLJ-7. Leaving Radar aside, there are other aspects which the Gripen beats the JF17. Anyhow we are not experts 2 Likes |
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