handelex:
Just mention me nau

The shoe fit abi?

Illimitable:


[s]I would take Ferguson’s words over Ferdinand’s.




You are the poster child of stupidity.

If I bring out all the quotes of football greats licking their lips over Scholes, you would get a gun and shoot Lampard yourself.





But it’s PL hall of fame, not UCL hall of fame.

The stupidity in you cannot resist showing off itself.



Yet, your stupidity outshines everyone again by displaying itself unprovoked.

Scholes & Lampard didn’t even play in the same positions. We have exposed Lampard’s dubious number of minutes, outrageous numbers of set piece taken, etc.

Why are you comparing that to Jesus and Kane who played in the same position. I know why you are irritated about Scholes. He’s won more league titles than Chelsea- the club you foolishly support.

Scholes has more medals than your club that was established over 100 years ago. I am starting to think that’s your irritation. It’s not my fault that you foolishly choose to support a failing club.

Premier League Titles:

Scholes 11-6 Chelsea



Ferguson tried multiple times to sign many players. That means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Ferguson tried to sign Mikel Obi at 18, he even went to court on Mikel’s issue. That automatically makes Mikel Obi a world class player?

You’re a pleb!





One could mine idiocy from your gene pool.

Which best players in the world are you talking about? How many good teams did Croatia play on their way to the final? The winner of the world cup cannot face more than 7 teams at the World Cup, of which 4 of them are usually shit teams.

Brazil on their way to 2002 World Cup faced Turkey(twice), China, Costa Rica, England, Belgium and Germany. China and Belgium in 2002 had world class players in their squad in 2002?



I am starting to believe you are a rētard.

The great players rarely face each other because of seeding. The group stage usually has one good team facing 1 average team and 2 dead teams for KO qualification.

Are you a morön? Remind us the teams England faced on their way to the s/final in Russia? How many world class players did England play?





The devil is in the details.

Paul Scholes was the heart & soul of a team that dominated England for close to 20 years. He was never replaced or discarded in those 20 years that brought gazillion titles that the club you support may never win.

If he’s a shit player, there’s no way he’s commanding his position for 20 years. Many pretenders came and left but Scholes remained for 2 decades. United haven’t won a league title since Scholes finally retired.

Even when Roy Keane, Beckham, etc left, Paul Scholes remained and there was no title drought. United kept winning 3 PL titles back to back while Scholes was the main architect of those victories. I mean, one can be stupid but your own stupid is unrivaled.

That’s the dude you are comparing to Lampard the journeyman? If Lampard is so world class like you claim to be, how come his close to 20 years in PL football didn’t bring at least 10 league titles for the club he played for?

When they tell urchins like you to stay in school and learn logic, you refuse and start chasing women. You might actually be the most stupid Chelsea fan I have been unfortunate to come across in my life. Like, how do you manage to navigate daily challenges with this obscene levels of stupidity? [/s]

The same Scholes that never won Man utd player of the year, who would have given him EPL player of the year?

This is definitely Coogar with his wacky wacky yarns. Welcome back finally.

handelex:
Rumour mill gradually heating up.

Do we need him? We've got Cavani, why do we need another old Player?!

Expert17:


If Lampard and Gerrard played with deadly attackers like RVP, Rooney, Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatov, Sheringham, Cantona, Cole etc., I am sure they won't score up to 100 league goals.

Scholes: 499 games 107 EPL goals - 0 pk

Gerrard 504 games 120 EPL goals - 29 pk

Lampard 609 games 177 EPL goals - 32 pk

This is another way of looking at it. Imagine the number of penalties taken by these ‘world class’ midfielders to statpad and then claim greatness over Scholes?

Scholes - 499 PL games - 36,115 PL minutes

Gerrard - 504 PL games - 41,158 PL minutes

Lampard - 609 PL games - 48,909 PL minutes

Ryan Giggs - 632 PL games - 46,435 PL minutes.

Even though it may appear that Giggs has played the most number of PL games, Lampard has actually spent 2000PL more minutes on the pitch than Giggs(the grandfather of PL).

This is to tell you how often Lampard played, rarely misses PL games to injury cos he’s got similar genes like Maguire. He plays as a CAM, he’s the designated set piece taker of his team, scored from 43 penalty kicks in the PL.

Scholes scored from 1 PL penalty kick in his entire football career against West Ham in 99/2000 season. Even before considering anything else, Lampard already has a swing of 42 PL goals in his favor.

Yet, some idiötic Chelsea fans use these dubious stats to prop him up as the best midfielder in the PL.

patrickmuf:
I just had to drop it so you guys know it ain't cool...If you want to be part of an argument, quote the person and state your point (s) it's cowardly for two persons to be arguing and then someone else quotes one of the party and makes derogatory remarks towards the other.

Some folks here will never comment or start a discussion...They never talk about the club, they only exist here to attack the opinions of others. I keep saying if we all keep mutes in waiting for others to drop their opinions so we can pick holes in them, will anyone come here? I think not.

I get you bro. Some people will never change though, I take it your message is meant for both camps. Like you once told me, don't take these things too seriously.

Oasis007:


Do we need him? We've got Cavani, why do we need another old Player?!

We don't need him abeg.

handelex:
But Tuanzebe played because Maguire was injured and unavailable for that game. He's not the first nor 2nd choice CB at the club.

so Ole have his favorites and rarely uses the other players? Isn’t dis what many have been saying here while you and the other real fans say otherwise.

I've noticed one thing here, once a point is challenged, it's not always about being Olesexual or even defending the coach, football is much more bigger than that. Their can be nuanced views and gray areas, that's what makes a great argument, to learn and not to always win.

Everything no be black and white o.

I don’t even understand what you are trying to say here.


We conceded 12 goals in four league games, before the PSG game, so it’s not like Maguire and Lindelof were tearing the world apart with world class defensive displays

airmark:

The same Scholes that never won Man utd player of the year, who would have given him EPL player of the year?

This is definitely Coogar with his wacky wacky yarns. Welcome back finally.

Are you a child?

What’s with the cross outs? Did you miss that experience as a toddler when children cross out words with felt pens on drawing sheets?

When they lose arguments to the illimitable, the other alternative is to brand me as Coogar. The same old and tired strategy that has put many moröns like yourself in shallow graves.

larride:


The shoe fit abi?

Lolz, e get many of us wey get the same size for here so I know who get the shoe.

At least their should have been an address.

elampiro:


Baily has mainly featured in one season so far and we finished 6th. He manged 24 games in 2016/2017

Lol. Look at person league appearances for God sake.
12, 13, 4.

What has Bailly played since 2016 to make some conclude he's our best defender?

Illimitable:


[s]Are you a child?

What’s with the cross outs? Did you miss that experience as a toddler when children cross out words with felt pens on drawing sheets?

When they lose arguments to the illimitable, the other alternative is to brand me as Coogar. The same old and tired strategy that has put many moröns like yourself in shallow graves[/s].

I crossed them out cos they are bullsh11ts.

How would any sane mind compare an Ex-2nd best player in the world with someone who was never the best player in his team in any of his 20 seasons?

Even Giggs was awarded Man utd player of the season, but when we asked about Scholes you told us that he was camera shy and other rubbish reasons like assists were not recorded for him.

Compare Lampard with only united players that had mounted Ballon d'or podium and go and find the likes of Eriksen, Ramires, Mikel Obi to compare your Scholes with.

You are Coogar, just be a man don't be a pxxxy.

Solskjær: "We've had a few players on loan that might come back in. There is interest in a few others going out. You want to come out of the transfer window strengthened. It's difficult to say, I can't see too many outgoings." #mulive

airmark:

I crossed them out cos they are bullsh11ts.

You crossed them out because you are a petulant child with hissy-fits. Once you are faced with facts, you throw your toys out of the pram.

A careful diagnosis would show you suffer from acute ADHD.

Seek help.

airmark:

How would any sane mind compare an Ex-2nd best player in the world with someone who was never the best player in his team in any of his 20 seasons?

Even Giggs was awarded Man utd player of the season, but when we asked about Scholes you told us that he was camera shy and other rubbish reasons like assists were not recorded for him.

Compare Lampard with only united players that had mounted Ballon d'or podium and go and find the likes of Eriksen, Ramires, Mikel Obi to compare your Scholes with.

Ballon d’Or is a popularity contest.

We all laughed as United fans when Beckham came 2nd(FIFA player of the year) twice in 99 and 2001. He was the least talented of the midfield quartet in that era.

Beckham is tiers below Giggs, Scholes and Keane so when Lampard also came 2nd twice, we laughed.

We get it. Henry gets it. He said it actually that Scholes never got any award because he never sought the limelight.

airmark:

You are Coogar, just be a man don't be a pxxxy.

You have two choices.

Prove with strong evidence that I am or shut the fück up.

So what it’s gonna be?

KingAlabi:
As much as the bench affect a players confidence, if you really want to be up for selection, the chances you get, you take it, there was a time bailly was played for three straight games, before he was returned to the bench, you guys don't know what goes on during training.
If you get your chances, TAKE IT, a manager can't play everybody. I hate lindelof and Maguire combo, I would prefer a bailly and Maguire combo personally.
Ole is not a coach that takes risks, try understand this one.

I don't know why you guys are arguing what is glaring for all of us to see. Amaka overplays some players and allows others to rot on the bench. Even Vidic and Rio in their prime were not played as much as Maguire, and the difference between Lindelof and the other CBs is not enough for him to be compulsory starter whenever fit.

Almost everybody here has complained about Amaka runs players into the ground while neglecting others so i don't understand the need to argue this.

weedtaker:
so Ole have his favorites and rarely uses the other players? Isn’t dis what many have been saying here while you and the other real fans say otherwise.

Is there a manager that doesn't have favorites per say? But this isn't about favorites rather pecking order.

I don’t even understand what you are trying to say here.


We conceded 12 goals in four league games, before the PSG game, so it’s not like Maguire and Lindelof were tearing the world apart with world class defensive displays

What I'm trying to say is one performance does not make a coach to suddenly displace his first choice CBs who have been playing together for some time. That was a fantastic game from Axel but that's not how it's done. One good game does not suddenly make you a nailed in starter.

jOsE moUriNhO rUiNS aTtACkiNG pLAyeRS.

afrodoc2:


I don't know why you guys are arguing what is glaring for all of us to see. Amaka overplays some players and allows others to rot on the bench. Even Vidic and Rio in their prime were not played as much as Maguire, and the difference between Lindelof and the other CBs is not enough for him to be compulsory starter whenever fit.

Almost everybody here has complained about Amaka runs players into the ground while neglecting others so i don't understand the need to argue this.

I am not arguing that ole runs players to the ground, but debunking the claim that Benching a player makes him not to play well when he plays.

As I concluded in my post.
Ole doesn't like taking risks.

KingAlabi:

I am not arguing that ole runs players to the ground, but debunking the claim that Benching a player makes him not to play well when he plays.

As I concluded in my post.
Ole doesn't like taking risks.

You are not debunking any claim. Benching a player can affect form. This is not even up for debate. Why else do they sometimes loan out young players instead of keeping them on the senior team bench?

You learn and improve more from real game time than just training sessions. And this is most important at CB where it is all about partnerships.

If a CB pairing are not on the same page a simple thing like keeping an offside trap will look like WAEC.

KingAlabi:

Shots everywhere

Alabimumu, you are good at fanning embers of discord.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!! Stop acting like a overgrown sissy..

Come out of the closet, haemophrodite - you swing both ways.

handelex:

Is there a manager that doesn't have favorites per say? But this isn't about favorites rather pecking order.

No, its about favorites.

What I'm trying to say is one performance does not make a coach to suddenly displace his first choice CBs who have been playing together for some time.

we were four games into the season ffs!

That was a fantastic game from Axel but that's not how it's done.

four games into the season and your defense have conceded 12 goals already, a new CB came in and put in one of the best defensive displays of the season against arguably the best attacking unit, and the reward is dropping him to the bench? you think you are arguing with kids here or what?

One good game does not suddenly make you a nailed in starter.

So is leaving someone on the bench for ages and then acting surprised on why he's not playing like prime keane or vidic when called upon.