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How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by RuMiRgO1stSon: 10:19pm On May 23, 2021
So it was recorded in the Bible's book of Genesis that God created the sun and the moon in the fourth day; how then is the writer manage to count the days when its the suns set & risen that determines day?
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by falcon01: 10:36pm On May 23, 2021
It doesn't have to make sense! Just believe
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 8:37am On May 24, 2021
RuMiRgO1stSon:
So it was recorded in the Bible's book of Genesis that God created the sun and the moon in the fourth day; how then is the writer manage to count the days when its the suns set & risen that determines day?

Good question, OP. First, it’s worthy to note that the word “day” in the Bible can convey different meanings i.e. it can span through unspecified periods of time so it’s not always true that “day” means a 24hour cycle during which the sun rises and sets. For example, a thousand years is like a day from God’s viewpoint(Psalm 90:4, 2Peter 3:8.) and the Bible also mentions the day of the LORD(Jehovah) which is most definitely not a 24hour cycle because a significant number of events take place during that epoch. Zephaniah 1:14, 1Thessalonians 5:2

So tailoring what we’ve understood now to the account of Genesis, it is therefore safe to conclude that the “day” represents each creative epoch which spans through unspecified periods of time.

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Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by RuMiRgO1stSon: 9:15am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Good question, OP. First, it’s worthy to note that the word “day” in the Bible can convey different meanings i.e. it can span through unspecified periods of time so it’s not always true that “day” means a 24hour cycle during which the sun rises and sets. For example, a thousand years is like a day from God’s viewpoint(Psalm 90:4, 2Peter 3:8.) and the Bible also mentions the day of the LORD(Jehovah) which is most definitely not a 24hour cycle because a significant number of events take place during that epoch. Zephaniah 1:14, 1Thessalonians 5:2

So tailoring what we’ve understood now to the account of Genesis, it is therefore safe to conclude that the “day” represents each creative epoch which spans through unspecified periods of time.
So why then was the creation account recorded in the order of days if it wasn't 24hrs cycle?
Light separated from darkness How can it be so when we know that darkness always form in the absence of light!
*** Day of the Lord/Day of judgement has nothing to do with account of creation.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by RuMiRgO1stSon: 9:16am On May 24, 2021
falcon01:
It doesn't have to make sense! Just believe
Jesus saidUSE YOUR HEAD grin
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 9:29am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Good question, OP. First, it’s worthy to note that the word “day” in the Bible can convey different meanings i.e. it can span through unspecified periods of time so it’s not always true that “day” means a 24hour cycle during which the sun rises and sets. For example, a thousand years is like a day from God’s viewpoint(Psalm 90:4, 2Peter 3:8.) and the Bible also mentions the day of the LORD(Jehovah) which is most definitely not a 24hour cycle because a significant number of events take place during that epoch. Zephaniah 1:14, 1Thessalonians 5:2

So tailoring what we’ve understood now to the account of Genesis, it is therefore safe to conclude that the “day” represents each creative epoch which spans through unspecified periods of time.

You know the creation story is a myth right? A bronze age story that was passed down from generation to generation before it was written down and probably wasn't even meant to taken literally.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 9:29am On May 24, 2021
RuMiRgO1stSon:

So why then was the creation account recorded in the order of days if it wasn't 24hrs cycle?
Light separated from darkness How can it be so when we know that darkness always form in the absence of light!
*** Day of the Lord/Day of judgement has nothing to do with account of creation.

Wasn’t your earlier post centered around how Moses was able to record the disclosure of the luminaries(sun and moon) without giving consideration to the said luminaries? That’s why I said that “day” has several meanings in the Bible.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 9:30am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:


You know the creation story is a myth right?

In your opinion, it is. To me it’s a fact.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 9:33am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


In your opinion, it is. To me it’s a fact.
;DYeah fact right, that's why Dinosaurs were not mentioned in the Bible, despite the overwhelming amount of evidence we have of their existence grin grin ;DYou know why, because the mythical story of creation was recorded by middle Eastern men Millions of years after the extinction of the dinosaurs.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 9:35am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:

;DYeah fact right, that's why Dinosaurs were not mentioned in the Bible, despite the overwhelming amount of evidence we have of their existence grin grin ;DYou know why, because the mythical story of creation was recorded by middle Eastern men Millions of years after the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Okay so please name ANY animal that was mentioned in the creation account of Genesis 1&2, let’s see how bright you are. I was thinking you would come at me with something solid, as some other atheists have yet this is all you have to say. Pathetic.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 9:37am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Okay so please name ANY animal that was mentioned in the creation account of Genesis 1&2, let’s see how bright you are. I was thinking you would come at me with something solid, as some other atheists have yet this is all you have to say. Pathetic.

You know David the supposed father of the wisest man ever, is actually dumb.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 9:39am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:

You know David the supposed father of the wisest man ever, is actually dumb.

Are you trying to make some point here that I’m not seeing?
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 9:39am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Okay so please name ANY animal that was mentioned in the creation account of Genesis 1&2, let’s see how bright you are. I was thinking you would come at me with something solid, as some other atheists have yet this is all you have to say. Pathetic.

Yeah, the Bible never mentioned tiny RNA based life forms living amongst us that we don't even know are here. Or even alien species. You know why? Because, it was written by misogynistic poetic middle Eastern men who didn't even understand genetics and passed down from generation to generation, spread through wars and slavery, before it got to you grin.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 9:41am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Are you trying to make some point here that I’m not seeing?

Bats are birds to the biblical God. Leviticus 11:13, 19 grin grin grin Imagine a situation when even your supposed creator doesn't even know his creation grin
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 9:43am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Are you trying to make some point here that I’m not seeing?
God is extremely dumb then

The Bible says that hares and coneys are unclean because they "chew the cud" but do not part the hoof. But hares and coneys are not ruminants and they do not "chew the cud." Leviticus 11:5-6
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 9:46am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:

Yeah, the Bible never mentioned tiny RNA based life forms living amongst us that we don't even know are here. Or even alien species. You know why? Because, it was written by misogynistic poetic middle Eastern men who didn't even understand genetics and passed down from generation to generation, spread through wars and slavery, before it got to you grin.

The Middle Eastern men did not understand genetics, yet they wrote that death begun with one man and spread to other men since then. Romans 5:12, 1Corinthians 15:21,22
The Middle Eastern men even wrote that Absalom was a very handsome man in his time(2Samuel 14:25) which shows that he inherited the genes from his father, David who was also described as a handsome man in this days. 1Samuel 16:12
And yet they don’t understand genetics?
Yeah, right.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 9:51am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:

God is extremely dumb then
The Bible says that hares and coneys are unclean because they "chew the cud" but do not part the hoof. But hares and coneys are not ruminants and they do not "chew the cud." Leviticus 11:5-6

Even a renowned biologist, Ivan Sanderson agrees with what the Bible says on that account because from his own observation, hares/rabbits re-eat their semi-digested food after excretion. Try again.

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Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 9:57am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:


Bats are birds to the biblical God. Leviticus 11:13, 19 grin grin grin Imagine a situation when even your supposed creator doesn't even know his creation grin

Leviticus 11:13

“These are detestable things for you among winged creatures that you are not to eat, because they are detestable for you: the eagle, vulture, osprey,”—International Standard Version

“‘These are the flying creatures that you are to loathe; they should not be eaten, for they are loathsome: the eagle, the osprey, the black vulture”—New World Translation

Are bats winged creatures that fly or not? What you’re asserting is only an issue of translation, sir. Try again.

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Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by RuMiRgO1stSon: 9:59am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Wasn’t your earlier post centered around how Moses was able to record the disclosure of the luminaries(sun and moon) without giving consideration to the said luminaries? That’s why I said that “day” has several meanings in the Bible.

So are you now saying that the creation wasn't literary done in 6days And the creator/God rested on the seventh day as its been stated the account?
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 10:03am On May 24, 2021
RuMiRgO1stSon:
So are you now saying that the creation wasn't literary done in 6days And the creator/God rested on the seventh day as its been stated the account?

Yes.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 10:05am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Even a renowned biologist, Ivan Sanderson agrees with what the Bible says on that account because from his own observation, hares/rabbits re-eat their semi-digested food after excretion. Try again.

grin grin AHH, the great Ivan Sanderson, the king of Cryptozoology. He was nothing close to being renowned. Try again son. wink
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:09am On May 24, 2021
RuMiRgO1stSon:
So it was recorded in the Bible's book of Genesis that God created the sun and the moon in the fourth day; how then is the writer manage to count the days when its the suns set & risen that determines day?

foreverme1225: 11:00pm On May 23
3 And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light. 4 After that God saw that the light was good, and God began to divide the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.

Forever me gave you the answer!
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 10:09am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


The Middle Eastern men did not understand genetics, yet they wrote that death begun with one man and spread to other men since then. Romans 5:12, 1Corinthians 15:21,22
The Middle Eastern men even wrote that Absalom was a very handsome man in his time(2Samuel 14:25) which shows that he inherited the genes from his father, David who was also described as a handsome man in this days. 1Samuel 16:12
And yet they don’t understand genetics?
Yeah, right.

grin grin Young man, they did not understand genetics plain and simple, that's why Jacob displayed his (and God's) knowledge of biology/genetics by claiming that having goats copulate while looking at streaked rods, The result will be streaked baby goats. Genesis 30:37-39
Science on the other hand knows that streaked goats are a genetic mutation, not as a result of the parents looking at streaked rods during copulation.
grin :DYou don't even know your Bible. Try again.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:10am On May 24, 2021
RuMiRgO1stSon:
So it was recorded in the Bible's book of Genesis that God created the sun and the moon in the fourth day; how then is the writer manage to count the days when its the suns set & risen that determines day?

foreverme1225: 11:00pm On May 23
3 And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light. 4 After that God saw that the light was good, and God began to divide the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.

Foreverme gave you the answer!
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 10:11am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:

grin grin AHH, the great Ivan Sanderson, the king of Cryptozoology. He was nothing close to being renowned. Try again son. wink
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology

Okay so the word “renowned” is what you picked from my entire post? My guy it’s common knowledge already amongst many scientists that rabbits/hares have been observed to reingest food after some time. So try again.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:14am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:

;DYeah fact right, that's why Dinosaurs were not mentioned in the Bible, despite the overwhelming amount of evidence we have of their existence grin grin ;DYou know why, because the mythical story of creation was recorded by middle Eastern men Millions of years after the extinction of the dinosaurs.

You have seen movies right? And iron man toys and clothings?

Dinosauric Evidence can be manufactured as Proven by Jurassic Park!
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 10:14am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


Good question, OP. First, it’s worthy to note that the word “day” in the Bible can convey different meanings i.e. it can span through unspecified periods of time so it’s not always true that “day” means a 24hour cycle during which the sun rises and sets. For example, a thousand years is like a day from God’s viewpoint(Psalm 90:4, 2Peter 3:8.) and the Bible also mentions the day of the LORD(Jehovah) which is most definitely not a 24hour cycle because a significant number of events take place during that epoch. Zephaniah 1:14, 1Thessalonians 5:2

So tailoring what we’ve understood now to the account of Genesis, it is therefore safe to conclude that the “day” represents each creative epoch which spans through unspecified periods of time.
Alright, so if God rested on the last day, that means He is still resting and have not created any more things since then. But out there in space, planets are still forming and stars are still forming. So this god thing, has she rested or not?
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 10:16am On May 24, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


You have seen movies right? And iron man toys and clothings?

Dinosauric Evidence can be manufactured as Proven by Jurassic Park!

You know the best part of being religious is that you have to pretend that the overwhelming evidence for the existence of Dinosaurs are fake because it was not mentioned in your book. cheesy
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by DappaD: 10:18am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:

grin grin Young man, they did not understand genetics plain and simple, that's why Jacob displayed his (and God's) knowledge of biology/genetics by claiming that having goats copulate while looking at streaked rods, The result will be streaked baby goats. Genesis 30:37-39
Science on the other hand knows that streaked goats are a genetic mutation, not as a result of the parents looking at streaked rods during copulation.
grin :DYou don't even know your Bible. Try again.

In his dream Jacob learned that certain principles of genetics, and not the sticks, were responsible for his success. Whereas Jacob was tending only solid-colored animals, yet the vision revealed that the male goats were striped, speckled, and spotty. How could this be? Apparently they were hybrids even though of uniform color, the result of crossbreeding in Laban’s flock before Jacob began being paid. So certain of these animals carried in their reproductive cells the hereditary factors for spotting and speckling future generations, according to the laws of heredity discovered by Gregor Mendel in the 19th century.​—Ge 31:10-12.Insight on the Scriptures, “Jacob”, published by Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:20am On May 24, 2021
SSIPON:

You know the best part of being religious is that you have to pretend that the overwhelming evidence for the existence of Dinosaurs are fake because it was not mentioned in your book. cheesy

The Only Things that Are True are the things in Nature, like the ground under feet and the sky above!

Why did you make a Wicked Statement i did not make and attach it to me?

What did I do to get such wickedness and why have you not modified it if you did it in good faith?
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 10:22am On May 24, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


The Only Things that Are True are the things in Nature, like the ground under feet and the sky above!

Why did you make a Wicked Statement i did not make and attach it to me?

What did I do to get such wickedness and why have you not modified it if you did it in good faith?
I'll look into that.
Re: How Could This Be; 4 Days Counted In Creation Before Sun Was Created? by SSIPON(m): 10:26am On May 24, 2021
DappaD:


In his dream Jacob learned that certain principles of genetics, and not the sticks, were responsible for his success. Whereas Jacob was tending only solid-colored animals, yet the vision revealed that the male goats were striped, speckled, and spotty. How could this be? Apparently they were hybrids even though of uniform color, the result of crossbreeding in Laban’s flock before Jacob began being paid. So certain of these animals carried in their reproductive cells the hereditary factors for spotting and speckling future generations, according to the laws of heredity discovered by Gregor Mendel in the 19th century.​—Ge 31:10-12.Insight on the Scriptures, “Jacob”, published by Jehovah’s Witnesses.


You know, if you are trying to defend something with something, at least don't do it with a book written by the Christian cultish group, The Jehovah's Witness.

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