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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 11:13pm On May 26, 2021 |
Make we no lie, Arteta no reach Ebening.. It is not even close abeg.. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 11:18pm On May 26, 2021 |
fredoooooo: Na Saturday I dey wait for.. Make una just lose on Saturday lasan!! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by fredoooooo: 11:19pm On May 26, 2021 |
Roland17:God no be man ... out mortar is coming out |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 11:33pm On May 26, 2021 |
You sacked a manager who got you to 5th to appoint a manager who has zero coaching experience to get you to 8th and still got knocked out by the sacked manager. What a Joke Football Club. 3 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 12:04am On May 27, 2021 |
fredoooooo: Na so.. Dem go give una mortar for losing finals because 2nd no dey for finals. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:09am On May 27, 2021 |
Amazing to think that the only thing that can prevent Unai Emery winning in Europa League finals is Arsenal Jodera, uncle Kokaneprodigy Good ebening says HI 1 Like
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:15am On May 27, 2021 |
Fkhalifa: Emery left Joker FC 1 Like
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 1:07am On May 27, 2021 |
So much for sacking Emery. If he waited....blah blah. No wailings abeg. Lol Some scary facts though.... Pa Fergie meet PSG, they lost Pa Fergie meet Man Utd today, they lost. Can he pls meet Tuchel?? Happy for Chukwueze!!
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:39am On May 27, 2021 |
mostob:So you believe Wenger can think of doing this? Wake up one morning and saying 'I think I'm going to reduce the bar'. You guys are really messing up o |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:42am On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:Forget about my 'blind love' and let's analyse the logic behind your statement. I will rather accept you say Wenger became mentally sick and things got sour rather than those words you put up there. Totally makes no sense. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:44am On May 27, 2021 |
kodded:You take away Willock's goals? And take in what? Ceballos' excellent dribbles? Make una dey reason well for this thread. I go commot o |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:48am On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:Wengers mistake was not leaving to join RMadrid in 2006/7 after reaching UCL finals. Wenger's mistake was not quitting when told he could only buy after selling his best players to raise money, so that the club can pay off debts. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:54am On May 27, 2021 |
Roland17:We sacked an experienced and titled coach to get a rookie. Arteta's stock was heightened by his association with Pep, but he learnt little (or forgot what he learnt) and could do with spending more time as a student. If it was matter of language, we had Spanish speaking players and could have gotten an interpreter. But well, we move. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SodO9: 5:36am On May 27, 2021 |
Ebening was terrible Poor man management, he knows his kind of players in arsenal yet he forced them to play stupid football Why didn't he sell the useless ones, I still insist the more xhaka remain in that team the more their woes continue. Ebening is very good with his country's mid table clubs because they will respect and play their all not arsenal with some stupid players that have ego. I will blame ebening today, tomorrow and forever just the way I still blame wengay, you see that Arteta na Ogun go kill all those running our club |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 6:40am On May 27, 2021 |
SodO9: I just look all the funny comments of people trying to suggest we should've been more patient with "Good Ebening"....make I no just talk. I have come to realize that time deems people's memory especially when it comes to football matters and they fail to see things for what they are immediately they see that a decision made to correct an anomaly didn't bring out the desired result. "Good Ebening" was the same man who would start a faltering Willock against them Wijnaldum, Fabinho, Henderson etc in midfield and lose with cricket scores not just once....He was busy losing to dem Crystal palace starting moda4cking Mustafi, etc. He even played in the Yorupa final and lost to Sarri who has never won a major trophy before in his life. Now he's won against a clueless Ole and I'm supposed to agree "Good Ebening" should've been given more time at the Emirates? One thing is clear, "Good Ebening has shown himself to be a coach who is suited for winning cup competitions and not 38 games league over the years. I mean he took a 7th placed villareal in the LA Liga to win Yorupa.....He's no different from "the rookie" Arteta who took 8th placed Arsenal to win the FA cup last season. Arteta may not be the best coach to bank on when u want to win or get highly placed in a 38 match league but so is "Good Ebening" . Anybody wey wan vex, make dem vex but sacking "Good Ebening" at the time they did was right and I will support it over and over again. Maybe getting a rookie like Arteta to replace him wasn't the right decision but people coming on here to suggest Good ebening would've made much difference if given more time is nonesense. We were actually embarrassed in the only final he took us to 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SodO9: 6:46am On May 27, 2021 |
BlueRayDick:Don't mind them One thing is sure if we had made it to final, Arteta will beat that United team without entering penalties |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 7:16am On May 27, 2021 |
BlueRayDick: 5 Likes
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:46am On May 27, 2021 |
Akinbahm:Lol... Congrats to him. Like I said, I wished him well esp against man u. He doesn't needs to be tactically astute to win man u, just park the bus and hit on counter. Trusting him who always tune his team to counter his opponent instead of playing his game, Ole fell sweetly into his hands Kudos to him 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:56am On May 27, 2021 |
Spy360:What do you mean by mentally sick? I don't know where you're driving at here, but I can never call Wenger a mentally sick person. Abeg! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 8:14am On May 27, 2021 |
Spy360:show me where I said that ceballos should play for this team? ....I will take your other comment as a joke tho |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:21am On May 27, 2021 |
Spy360:Lol... See digressions Who talked about debt and selling off best players? I'm talking about mentality he brought to the team and how it seeped into the squad even after he is gone and you're talking about RM and him selling best players (which is another discussion entirely). Please if you want to counter, talk about the mentality I brought up instead of all these emotional stuff you're displaying |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:28am On May 27, 2021 |
Spy360:What do you think could have been the problem then? I can remember the season we only have Leicester to compete with yet he fumbled. We were in the title race in a particular season and we only needed a decent striker in the January transfer window yet who did we got? An injured Kim Kalstrom. Wenger was partially at fault. Infact, if it won't be too extreme, Wenger made the board too comfortable. He practically carried every burden for them. Their unwillingness to spend might have been due to Wenger been too honest. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:39am On May 27, 2021 |
Spy360:Lol, this your talks are emotional talks without facts. Let us don't go emotional, bring facts and logic let's discuss. Simple |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:44am On May 27, 2021 |
mostob:Lol... Nothing pain me reach 2015/2016 season. The season where we had peak ozil, peak Sanchez, peak cazorla, peak coquelin. Defence not bad. What was just sorely needed was a good striker to feed off ozil Sanchez and cazorla creativity, but what did he do? He brought in injured Kim |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:01am On May 27, 2021 |
Any body talking about how it's wrong to sack Emery have forgotten how bad we really are. Like I said earlier, sacking him isn't wrong, but maybe replacing him with Arteta. It's just like man u fans asking why they sacked mourinho cos of Ole failings. Seems we've forgotten how Emery was for us, lemme do a little refresher 1... Emery lost the dressing room. Any coach, no matter how good, who loses his dressing room deserves the sack. No two ways about it 2... Who has forgotten Emery countless formations? Today we'll do 3133, tomorrow 3313. Next week 4231, then the next 4312. The players are always confused and he also seem confused too. 3... Who can forget the shots we receive per match? Almost 15+ averagely, if not for the heroics of Leno then, na basket we for dey carry goals weekly. 4.. Against Southampton, lacazette scored the equalizer and made facial expression as if he regretted scoring. Worst part is nobody even met to celebrate with him. That tells you the unhappiness in the camp. Our grinding machine nko? Abeg, I detested the last days of Emery era and nobody can convince me otherwise that the board made a wrong decision to sack him. His found his level, kudos to him 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 10:49am On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera: You hit the nail on the head with the bold part of your post. Gosh! It irks me to even think about how leno keeps tons and tons of shots out and yet we still lose scandalously most times because he keeps facing barrage of shots. At a time we don't even know the formation we play as a team. Any match against Loserpool, or man city was sure going to end with Leno making plenty saves and we still end up conceeeding 3 to 5 goals. A coach that clearly lost his dressing room and can't command the respect of his players ; some people now want to come here and launder his image....Lailai! He was a failure at Arsenal and that's that! No cap! Me wey no dey miss Arsenal matches; even when I dey do professional exam I dey create time watch Arsenal....Emery made me start missing some matches delibrately because I already know the possible outcome. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 11:16am On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:Those saying he shouldn't have been sacked may have their points but what I stood/spoke against was scapegoating him all alone for the 2nd season woes. I mean the useless board, players and even the fans taunting and asking him to play their favorites against his wish had a larger share in the blame, but Arsenal fans want to see the Fc as a big club too big for Europa and Emery only to end up outside everything in Europe. You listed the bad sides of his tenure while forgetting the good parts, let me also recap the good times he had that could have earned a stay... Some haven't so forgotten how he finished 5th on 70 points(better than Wenger's last 2 seasons) and was literally 1 win away from from 3rd ( due to many erratic displays from the Xhakas and Mustafis you will hardly see from Villarreal and previous teams he managed) in a season where 1st and 2nd had 99 and 98 points respectively. Got to the European final and semi final of both domestic cups coupled with a 22games unbeaten all in his first season with a worst squad than we have now.. I mean a manager with previous 3 Europa trophies with orther 7 trophies with PSG in France will never be called a bad manager not worth a job at this present Arsenal. Going back to an average Villarreal to trump Arsenal and Utd to the 2nd biggest club trophy in Europe and bringing them to the UCL is a clear indicator once again he wasn't the major problem at a club who can't even make euro conference after sacking him. 4 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 11:38am On May 27, 2021 |
The truth is pride and Ego will not let many admit some facts, Saying Emey found his level is funny, i mean he has been taking midtable teams to UCL and he has done it again.. Your Arsenal is like a relagation threatened side who needs an Allardyce to take them back up, so Emery is a typical manager to take Arsenal back to UCL( May not win you league or UcL though).. Emery may not be up to the Pep and Klopp to take your club to the top, but with proper ambitious Owners and players with guts and fire( like we saw in a Villarreal side with no special players as against the bottlers who would disgrace you by losing 4-1 in a cup final), He is good enough to at least patch this yeye club back to Europe either through 4th or Europa. It is not easy to get rid of bad owners like the Kroenkes and the bad players, but easier with the coach. I said it that year, no big coach will take this Arsenal job, Allegri rejected it, Ancelloti preferred Everton and Mourinho opted for Tottenham... Klopp and Pep will have their image soil also in this football club, only a youth corper will take the Arsenal job. I can agree Emery got some things wrong, didn't communicate well, had bad relationship with some players etc but that's not the total package... My problem with him was sticking and having faith with useless players like Xhaka instead of doing a Conte by stepping down, A Nuno Esperito could have gone to Portugal and get you fresh talents. 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:41am On May 27, 2021 |
BlueRayDick:True... The bolded was so tiring, I really skipped some matches |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by johnjunior39(m): 11:46am On May 27, 2021 |
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by johnjunior39(m): 11:47am On May 27, 2021 |
Emery sack if you ask me took such a long time before it happened. Happy he won the Europa but I don't miss him one bit. Everything was frustration overloaded when he was here, from Line up to tactics to his attitude. Truth is, this recent Arsenal no rate fans at all, infact the have little regard to club culture and love for it. Emery may not be up to the Pep and Klopp to take your club to the top, but with proper ambitious Owners and players with guts and fire( like we saw in a Villarreal side with no special players as against the bottlers who would disgrace you by losing 4-1 in a cup final), He is good enough to at least patch this yeye club back to Europe either through 4th or Europa. It is not easy to get rid of bad owners like the Kroenkes and the bad players, but easier with the coach. I said it that year, no big coach will take this Arsenal job, Allegri rejected it, Ancelloti preferred Everton and Mourinho opted for Tottenham... Klopp and Pep will have their image soil also in this football club, only a youth corper will take the Arsenal job. I can agree Emery got some things wrong, didn't communicate well, had bad relationship with some players etc but that's not the total package... My problem with him was sticking and having faith with useless players like Xhaka instead of doing a Conte by stepping down, A Nuno Esperito could have gone to Portugal and get you fresh talents. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:53am On May 27, 2021 |
Fkhalifa:You're talking about the good sides, but in reality, it's not the good side that got him sacked. It's the bad side unfortunately. You seemed to skip my first point. Any coach the loses his dressing room, NO MATTER HOW GOOD(emphasis on the capitalized words), deserves to be sacked. Emery didn't only lose the dressing room, he lost the fans as well. Fans appearance to the stadium dwindled each passing week as well as losing his players. Even a guardiola or klopp can't escape such sack talk more of Emery. The reason Arteta saw out the season even with worse result than Emery was because he never lost the dressing room. So you bringing up his first season positives does no justice to counter his sack if we're been realistic. Reason why I brought up mourinho man u sack. The moment he lost the dressing room, his 2nd position and trophies of previous seasons counted for nothing. That's the harsh reality of football. |
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