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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 2:20am On May 26, 2021 |
TAO11: If you like be running helter skelter, your yoruba brother Olu317 (a dullard according to you and i agree) has labelled you a liar.. i always saw u as a liar but a confirmation of that from your YORUBA brother Olu317 just tops everything.. You are a Liar.. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 2:31am On May 26, 2021 |
davidnazee:I can smell the agony behind the “Hahaha father of lies.. poor u”. But truly the Federal Government & the Government of Edo State must urgently do something to salvage the future of upcoming Edo generations. By so doing, they too won’t continue to disgrace Edo state publicly has you’ve been doing on Nairaland vis-a-vis English sentences. Ok show me someone else or a researcher that made that statement before Akintoye..Show you “someone else or a researcher”?? Well the same work (Akintoye 2010) already cites three different Professors of Yoruba & African history as authorities for the Yorubas’ account. IF only you will ever read a book. This Oduduwa issue is one that is hunting (and would continue to hunt) you till the day your creator comes calling you. I know why, and you know why. Olu317 really damaged u sha.. cain don nack abel lolYou forgot to admit here (as you’ve done above) that Olu317 is a dullard — an individual who is not capable of achieving anything. How then can Olu possibly “dAmAgE” a bubble, much less dAmAgE Tao-the tormentor of Bini liars?? Are the Binis that fragile?? Anyways, I understand how desperate you are to cling to anything in an attempt to salvage your battered ego. You’ve just being exposed again (as always) to be an unstable mythomaniac. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 2:33am On May 26, 2021 |
davidnazee:How is a dullard (as agreed by you) supposed to be capable of correctly labeling anything?? You’re a greater dullard for aligning and identifying with the label of a dullard. 1 Like
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 2:35am On May 26, 2021 |
TAO11: Father of lies, you are boring.. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 2:37am On May 26, 2021 |
davidnazee:You forgot to cite your authority — that is, “Olu317 the dullard”
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 2:55am On May 26, 2021 |
TAO11: Correction; Olu317 the Yoruba dullard.. And u still remain; Tao11 the father of lies.. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 3:02am On May 26, 2021 |
davidnazee:Thanks for confirming and admitting that you are the greater dullard than dullard Olu himself Only a greater dullard will affirm, stand by, identify with, and align with the label suggested by a dullard.
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by gregyboy(m): 10:42am On May 27, 2021 |
TAO11: Tao11, Now we know were you got your inspiration from partaining to you assumption Oduduwa was born in ife A 2010 quote from akintoye... I keep telling you stop � making refrence to scholars after 1914 But you cant do without it The cane that would be used to flog the yorubas out of culture thread would not be giving by benins, but by Yorubas themselves In my spare time i would take time to read you and olu argument and find my cain to flog you All permanently You will regret meeting we benins on Nairaland 3 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 11:25am On May 27, 2021 |
gregyboy:I knew I was right about the Education thang. Now I just got an additional confirmation from you. See link: https://www.nairaland.com/6510453/warri-succession-crisis-oba-benin/57#102068552 2 Likes |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 11:45am On May 27, 2021 |
TAO11: Liar 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 11:58am On May 27, 2021 |
davidnazee:Thanks for confirming and admitting that your “grin” emojis are mere veils to conceal your ocean of tears. Otherwise, you would have tried your best to muster a reasonable response. Or at least, you would have taken up my challenge to you that you should read one book today. I know too well that the word “read” scares the soul out of you. Read! Read!! Read!!! Read!!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 12:07pm On May 27, 2021 |
TAO11: Read your 2010 lies about Oduduwa's origin lol.. Your revisionist lies came too late, Edo already told their story almost 100years earlier.. I will advise u to stop reading your lies.. 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 12:13pm On May 27, 2021 |
davidnazee:You’re so pained by my fact spilling that you had to resort to brutal dishonesty. I guess anything goes in ‘saving’ Benin kingdom. Sane readers, please see link as well as the attached screenshots below: https://www.nairaland.com/6510453/warri-succession-crisis-oba-benin/57#102068552 1 Like
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 12:36pm On May 27, 2021 |
TAO11: Sane readers don't buy your 2010 story. they know u are lying.. so what are u appealing to them for? |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 12:40pm On May 27, 2021 |
davidnazee:Sane readers aren’t dyslexic. You are. You struggle with numbers, viz. 1970, ‘1980,’ 2010. You look at these numbers and they appear to you as one and the same number. LMAO! 1 Like
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 12:45pm On May 27, 2021 |
TAO11: very laughable lol.. "Out of NOTHING comes SILENCE".. what are they writing about? Lies? well they finally did it 2010.. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 12:50pm On May 27, 2021 |
davidnazee: In other words, the first written account of Ewuare-1 (in the 1900s) was based on LiEs, LiEs, and LiEs. [Binis will use their brains as long as I’m still alive. You wanna bet? ] Also: “Sane readers aren’t dyslexic. You are. You struggle with numbers, viz. 1970, ‘1980,’ 2010. You look at these numbers and they appear to you as one and the same number. LMAO!” Now, this is hilarious! 1 Like
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 12:56pm On May 27, 2021 |
TAO11: Before Ewuare's account was written it was told orally and in songs and folklores, there was no silence anywhere.. but your Oduduwa ife origin was never told in anything, never heard in anything or anywhere.. it was Nothing, there was Nothing.. abi u dont understand the phrase, "out of nothing comes silence".. Mugu.. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 1:00pm On May 27, 2021 |
davidnazee:Your Ewuare-1 story was “silent in writing” prior to its first written collection in the 1900s. The Yorubas’ own account of Oduduwa was “silent in writing” prior to its first written collection in the 1900s See attached for my words. You will have sense. You wanna bet?? 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 1:13pm On May 27, 2021 |
TAO11: Is writing the only way of passing information? Your Oduduwa ife origin was SILENT orally too.. nothing was ever heard like that before it was written.. Edo Oduduwa origin was written in the 1920s. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 2:43pm On May 27, 2021 |
davidnazee:No, and I should be the one asking you this because this is the precise point I’ve been teaching your people for years. Thank God you learnt on their behalf. You learnt the hard way though. [s]Your Oduduwa ife origin was SILENT orally too.. nothing was ever heard like that before it was written.[/s]Oh really!? Tell me more free jokes. Very convenient! Just as me saying: Your Ewuare-1’s story WAS ORALLY SILENT prior to the first writings on it/him in the 1900s. Having punched that in, the aboriginal Yoruba account (which states that Oduduwa’s historical roots is in Òkè Ọrà) WAS NOT ORALLY SILENT in the Yorubas’ cultural reality prior to its first written collection in the 1900s. [s]Edo Oduduwa origin was written in the 1920s[/s]Liar! I have pushed you to a very dangerous edge. You’re unfortunately very wrong. And what is even more laughable is that you know you’re wrong. From the 1880s to the 1960s, the accounts of the Edo people maintains that: Oduduwa is distinct & separate from a certain Edo person by the name Ekaladerhan. In other words, the Edos never for once saw Oduduwa as an Edo — until in circa 1970 when Omoregie, et al. wrote that this Ekalderhan is the very same person by the name Oduduwa [/Omonoyan]. This falsehood was subsequently announced to the wider Edo public by their incoming Omon’oba during his coronation party. However, professional/academic historians have done the world a great deal of good by courageously calling out the blatant dishonesty of this bunch of dishonest Bini revisionists and fraudsters. For example, refer to the attached screenshot below for some details on the emergence of this false Benin revision. Reference: J. Eboreime, “Oral Traditions and the Prehistory of the Edo-Speaking People of Benin” in R. Blench & M. Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations, Taylor & Francis e-Library, 2004, p. 314. Cheers and take heart! 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 5:38pm On May 27, 2021 |
TAO11: Really u are a laughable person.. Oduduwa ife origin was not orally silent in yoruba cultural heritage but yet your yoruba brothers were shocked to hear it and have cursing u for ur lies Edo origin of Oduduwa was first told and written in 1920s during the reign of Oba Eweka 2.. A yoruba historian/researcher interviewed the Oba and his palace chiefs.. it was during that interview it was revealed that Oduduwa is Ekaladeran.. You really know nothing.. |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 6:07pm On May 27, 2021 |
davidnazee:Imagine! A “laughing stock“ calling others “laughable”. This is hilarious! Having said that, many of your Edo brothers are of the strong opinion that both you & your Oba Ewuare-2 are cursed fools because you and he insist that Oduduwa lived. Does their shocking/sharp disagreement with both of you on such more basic matter truly make you & him cursed fools indeed?? In other words, many Yoruba youngsters are unaware of certain cultural realities as basic as certain Yoruba òwes (proverbs). Since such unawareness is quite visible in the aspect of òwe, more unawareness is thus to be expected on deeper cultural aspects such as oríkìs (praise poetries). Moreover, an even greater unawareness is expected on some of Oduduwa’s own oríkìs — particularly those that reference his actual community of origin. On what basis would you then consider your people’s ignorance (and disagreement with you) as actual proof that both you and Ewuare-2 are truly cursed liars? You are as dumb as a piece of rock. [s]Edo origin of Oduduwa was first told and written in 1920s during the reign of Oba Eweka 2.. A yoruba historian/researcher interviewed the Oba and his palace chiefs.. it was during that interview it was revealed that Oduduwa is Ekaladeran..You really know nothing..[/s]Liar! Stop re-telling your lie. A lie with more details is still a lie. Scholars debunked it. I also did when I cited a source which touched on the 1970s emergence of this Bini dishonest revision. See the attached screenshot again for an exposition on the emergence of this Edo dishonest revision in the 1970s in case your brain was under lock & keys earlier on. You’re a disgrace! Reference: J. Eboreime, “Oral Traditions and the Prehistory of the Edo-Speaking People of Benin” in Blench and Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I, Taylor & Francis e-Library, 2004, p. 314. Cheers and take heart. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 3:00am On Jun 06, 2021 |
fregeneh:Liar does not think but cover lie with another with rhetoric. Interestingly Àlà is white, purity,holiness white Cloth is Áṣọ Àlà. Cloth is Aṣọ as shown in below's screenshot
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 2:47am On Jun 07, 2021 |
Olu317:You’re on an ally seeking mission to float your sinking ship. Don’t bother because I will only sink you further, and I will rescue your target prey from you. Watch! (1) Yes the Yoruba word aṣọ translates to cloth [as well as clothe(s)] in English. (2) However, the Yoruba word àlà does NOT translate simply to white, purity, or holiness in English. (3) The Yoruba word for white, purity, and holiness, instead, are funfun, mímọ́, and ìwà mímọ́ respectively. (4) The Yoruba word àlà translates into white cloth — not just anything white. (5) Given the fact that àlà itself means white cloth, the Yoruba phrase aṣọ àlà can thus only mean “clothe(s) [made from] white cloth,” NOT white cloth itself. (6) You are therefore terribly wrong to claim that the Yoruba phrase aṣọ àlà means white cloth. No it does not mean that. (7) Moreover, the quite related phrase aláṣọ àlà has a somewhat more profound nuance as follows: IF the word aláṣọ is used to convey the specific sense of wearer (rather than the more generic sense of owner), then it is already implicit that the aṣọ here is clothe(s) — i.e., garment, etc. Thus, aláṣọ àlà in this context would translate word-for-word (explicitly) as follows: “the wearer of a [garment made from] white cloth”. In other words, the word “garment” within parenthesis is already implied from the words “the wearer”. As such, the words within parenthesis may be left unspelt out. (8 ) @Olu317, rather than misdirect your energy into attaching a screenshot of aṣọ, I would have expected you to attach a screenshot that says “Àlà is white, purity, holiness”. That would have been easier. (9) @Fregeneh, this reply to @Olu317 is to disillusion you from his delusions. He is sunk already. And I am not shying from taking responsibility for his sinking. This detailed reply of mine is to sink him even further. Olu, I will keep exposing you to all our people all over Nairaland for the fraud that you are. Cheers! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 11:22am On Jun 07, 2021 |
TAO11:Since it is hard for you comprehend simple Yoruba devoid of some error by CMS dictionary writers of Yoruba to English translation. Perhaps, itp another person, ObalufonIII's when he defined Obatala ," King of white cloths or king of all things white,emanated from". And you assented But here you trying to defend such against my view in which authors such as Professor Abimbola Wande, Chief Awodele Fayemi,Adeyinka Olaiya Falokun Fatunmbi ,Babasehinde Ademuleya, Abimbola, Wande , Ajanaku, Fabgemi 1970,Awolalu, J and Dopamu, P.A.Idowu, Bolaji wrote about Yoruba creation myth and all agree to the meaning of Elaa/Ala as a light Below screenshot answers you .
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Olu317(m): 12:14pm On Jun 07, 2021 |
TAO11:Screeenshot answers you. "King of all things white emanated from".( Oba ti Ala)
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 10:20pm On Jun 07, 2021 |
Olu317: Olu317:“... errors by CMS dictionary writers ...” or what did I just read ?? LMAO! We know that Olu317 is a fraud and dullard. What I did not know until now, however, is that he is deluded. He proved it. He speaks Yoruba language better than the Yorubas who lived more than hundred years ago. The Yorùbá people of yore informed us, through the Yoruba dictionaries that have come down to us from their time, that àlà means ”white cloth”. However, Olu317 begs to differ with the Yorubas. How dare the Yorubas say that!? cries Olu. The missionaries who documented that information must have had their sinister motive, Olu thinks. Perhaps Olu will explain to us that Christianity have a devilish agenda of wiping the word “white” off from all languages of the world except English. Perhaps, itp another person, ObalufonIII's when he defined Obatala ," King of white cloths or king of all things white,emanated from". And you assentedFirst of all, I am lost as to what you mean by assented. Also, please explain with proof how I did that. Tainkiu. Secondly, why did you suffer from selective blindness to have missed out where the same person (who is your new authority) wrote: “... king of white clothes ...”?? Having said that, your latest authority didn’t say he was doing a word-for-word literal translation in that comment of his. Neither did he say he is an authority on translations. Nor is there any reason to think he is. And if any of his two translations is to be assumed as a literal translation, the first, viz. king of white clothes would be the literal translation, while the second one which follows that would naturally be the extended interpretation, rather than the literal word-for-word translation. But here you trying to defend such against my viewYes, I have a right to defend the Yoruba language (as passed down orally and in written form in this specific case) from wolves in sheep’s clothing like you. Why are you mad that I’m exposing you? ••• in which authors such as Professor Abimbola Wande, Chief Awodele Fayemi,Adeyinka Olaiya Falokun Fatunmbi ,Babasehinde Ademuleya, Abimbola, Wande , Ajanaku, Fabgemi 1970,Awolalu, J and Dopamu, P.A.Idowu, Bolaji wrote about Yoruba creation myth and all agree to the meaning of Elaa/Ala as a lightNone of these persons wrote anywhere that Again, àlà signifies “white cloth,” while ẹ̀là on the other hand signifies “piece/s from a cleaved whole,” or “that which is illuminated or made explicit”. Stop throwing around names thinking folks would be foolish as you to not ask for actual evidence to prove that these persons did indeed utter the actual words you have attributed to them. Below screenshot answers youOh really!? Tell me more jokes. The frail argument you built around the screenshot is already debunked above within this same comment. Cheers! Cc: rhektor |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by rhektor(m): 6:33am On Jun 08, 2021 |
TAO11:Olu317 will say anything to make a very long comment posing as intellectual He has never written anything free of errors and lies - Mr Pinocchio The longer his comment the bigger the lies. Olu317 who bewitched you? A candid advice for you Olu317 is to stop sewing threads on nairaland just come to Lagos and be selling agbo inside molue buses I'm sure you will be selling well with these your packaged lies 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by christistruth01: 2:41am On Aug 05, 2021 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38vHAM521rk Long Live Olu of Warri in Jesus Name !!!!!!! What an absolute beauty of a Song !! 2 Likes
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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Simbrixton(m): 11:32pm On Feb 09, 2022 |
TAO11:actually initially dey said ekaalahran is oranmiyan 1 Like |
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 11:41pm On Feb 09, 2022 |
Simbrixton:Yup. They’re so confused. Poor revisionists. They can’t even get their revision right. 7 Likes |
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