nike4love:


The way they teamed up against Jose was very disheartening.....

They also teamed up against him in Tottenham? All these Yeye comments sef.

osazsky:
that is what i want u to understand the evolving and dynamic part..football has left u guys behind cuz it evolved. When Nottingham won the ucl in 1896 they made this statement when football started evolving .when asrnal had thier glory days before the gradual revolution they made this statement.the prob i am having with u guys is d HOPE u guys have..hope kills despair is better..look at asenal they have no hope but their fans are happy..imagin if u had despair before the villareal game u would have slept well and happy after the loss.man lower ur expection u are not a decent club anymore...football evoves and its unfortunate that some must be left behind.do they still study pascal in our universiteis? NO

So wetin you dey talk sef... I no understand.

Angelfrost:


You know nothing about football...

What did the following "Mighty" teams win this year?

Sevilla
Real Madrid
Borussia Dortmund
Juventus
Atalanta
Barcelona
A.C Milan

There are few trophies for many teams to compete for... You do your best. It's no one's birth-right.

United played well... They could have won within 90 minutes if they played better, same for Villarreal (You don't get to a European final if you are mediocre). Penalties can go any way.

First, Sevilla, Atalanta, Dortmund can't be spoken of in the same breath as Man Utd. That you are, says a lot about how low Man Utd has sunk.

Secondly, these clubs have points in the bank. I mean they have met and some even surpassed expectations (from fans and general public alike) in recent times(last 2 years) .

Third, Dortmund, Juventus, Barcelona won trophies this season. The others finished strongly. Ac Milan back in Europe, Madrid finished strongly (but Zidane left because that wasn't good enough), Atalanta, best points tally ever(equal with last season)

There are times mediocre teams get to European finals. Fulham got there in 2010 and rightly lost, are they an elite team?

My point is - Don't kid yourself, Man Utd underperformed yesterday and throughout the season. Villarreal were the underdogs. Ideally, there'll be an inquest - at some level. Players-wise or manager-wise, or Board-wise. Madrid are having an inquest, Barca will. United should.

adelaja70:

Keep quite and learn...

teacher...how was ur night yesterday hope u didnt have nightmere or u saw someone chasing u with cutlass

osazsky:
engrish teacher clap for urself but hope u got the message..anyday man u losses expecially a final the next day i dont leave the house cuz i still have the exitement..i get unnecessary erection that takee me for 2 weeks.imagine wat will happen to me when they finally get relegated..the excitment yesterday ehn was none to be compared with
I hope they keep losing like asrnal

Still doesn't answer my questions.

Is there a football definition of d word "mediocre"? Maybe FIFA and UEFA have given a set of criteria by which we should measure teams as "mediocre". Can u kindly help out with those universal criteria as set out by FIFA and UEFA?

If I am explaining d word "mediocre" to u, what has this got to do with d discussion?:

"u..Northampton forest humburg won the champions league in 1869"

What is going to shock me about that information? By d way, what is "Northampton forest humburg"?

If there are 3 clubs in Spain, how does that contribute to d definition of mediocre? How does playing in Europa mean mediocre?

Meanwhile, Hamburg is a German word

adelaja70:

Sad, you don't know anything about football.... Please stop analyzing football for your own good.

Lol. Let's hear your analysis of Villarreal being an elite club. I'd love to see it.

Asiseeit:

Two reasons
1. They finished 7th in laliga, behind Betis, Sociedad. Midtable team.

2. They lack European pedigree , pedigree. This is their first major trophy ever! To put that in perspective, Wigan FC has won way more than them!

Do you see notice how most people are not heaping praise on Villarreal but shame and disappointment on Manchester united?

Do you also notice that accolade is directed at Emery as a Europa specialist?

#Oleout is trending and Man Utd season is considered a failure, but do you think same woulda applied to Villarreal if Man Utd had won?

And if you still think they aren't a mediocre club, I'll like your definition of elite club.

I didn't notice anything. Is there a football definition of d word "mediocre"? Maybe FIFA and UEFA have given a set of criteria by which we should measure teams as "mediocre". Can u kindly help out with those universal criteria as set out by FIFA and UEFA?

adelaja70:

They also teamed up against him in Tottenham? All these Yeye comments sef.

they better go and beg mou to come back o..he is d best thing that happened to man u 8n d recent times

Asiseeit:


First, Sevilla, Atalanta, Dortmund can't be spoken of in the same breath as Man Utd. That you are, says a lot about how low Man Utd has sunk.

Secondly, these clubs have points in the bank. I mean they have met and some even surpassed expectations (from fans and general public alike) in recent times(last 2 years) .

Third, Dortmund, Juventus, Barcelona won trophies this season. The others finished strongly. Ac Milan back in Europe, Madrid finished strongly (but Zidane left because that wasn't good enough), Atalanta, best points tally ever(equal with last season)

There are times mediocre teams get to European finals. Fulham got there in 2010 and rightly lost, are they an elite team?

My point is - Don't kid yourself, Man Utd underperformed yesterday and throughout the season. Villarreal were the underdogs. Ideally, there'll be an inquest - at some level. Players-wise or manager-wise, or Board-wise. Madrid are having an inquest, Barca will. United should.

You are not making sense at all... So because ManU didn't win trophies makes them what? Go collect your brain back.

osazsky:
they better go and beg mou to come back o..he is d best thing that happened to man u 8n d recent times

Jose who? The one that Tottenham dumped? Or which one....

adelaja70:

You are not making sense at all... So because ManU didn't win trophies makes them what? Go collect your brain back.

I understand it hurts, so I'll ignore the insult. So to answer your question (bolded)

It makes their season a failure, just as the manager said. Even the players recognise this, only Nigerian Man Utd fans have a problem with this truth.

A club of Man Utd stature should not go FOUR SEASONS trophyless!

It's not just about last night, it's the 4 years. Top 4 or 2nd is not a trophy.

Something has to change. Even Juve that won Coppa Italia and finished top 4 are considering changing manager.

It is accepting mediocrity (top 4) as success that has led Arsenal to their current situation. It only gets worse.

osazsky:
teacher...how was ur night yesterday hope u didnt have nightmere or u saw someone chasing u with cutlass

Smallie.. Nor be today i just watch football o. Penalty can go either way... So i don't reason like those who started watching football when abramovisch bought Chelsea...

Asiseeit:


First, Sevilla, Atalanta, Dortmund can't be spoken of in the same breath as Man Utd. That you are, says a lot about how low Man Utd has sunk.

Secondly, these clubs have points in the bank. I mean they have met and some even surpassed expectations (from fans and general public alike) in recent times(last 2 years) .

Third, Dortmund, Juventus, Barcelona won trophies this season. The others finished strongly. Ac Milan back in Europe, Madrid finished strongly (but Zidane left because that wasn't good enough), Atalanta, best points tally ever(equal with last season)

There are times mediocre teams get to European finals. Fulham got there in 2010 and rightly lost, are they an elite team?

My point is - Don't kid yourself, Man Utd underperformed yesterday and throughout the season. Villarreal were the underdogs. Ideally, there'll be an inquest - at some level. Players-wise or manager-wise, or Board-wise. Madrid are having an inquest, Barca will. United should.

I never tried to support or back United up... That's not my headache honestly.

I merely pointed out that it is quite wrong to label United a mediocre team based on losing a single final.

As for Villarreal being underdogs, let's give that a rest please... Villarreal is an under-performing club which should be finishing better than they do every season.

As for an inquest, yeah I support that wholly... That's the right thing to do.

Asiseeit:


I understand it hurts, so I'll ignore the insult. So to answer your question (bolded)

It makes their season a failure, just as the manager said. Even the players recognise this, only Nigerian Man Utd fans have a problem with this truth.

A club of Man Utd stature should not go FOUR SEASONS trophyless!

YOU funny.. Do you know a club called AC MILAN?

lexy2014:


I didn't notice anything. Is there a football definition of d word "mediocre"? Maybe FIFA and UEFA have given a set of criteria by which we should measure teams as "mediocre". Can u kindly help out with those universal criteria as set out by FIFA and UEFA?

pls when a single defender or a single keeper can buy a full team .u play against that team and u where trashed.can u explain this with one single world.pls i am ready to learn

Angelfrost:


I never tried to support or back United up... That's not my headache honestly.

I merely pointed out that it is quite wrong to label United a mediocre team based on losing a single final.

As for Villarreal being underdogs, let's give that a rest please... Villarreal is an under-performing club which should be finishing better than they do every season.

As for an inquest, yeah I support that wholly... That's the right thing to do.

Don't mind him.. Is there any club that doesn't do that.. Even Nigerian clubs.

adelaja70:

YOU funny.. Do you know a club called AC MILAN?

y i like this life..when someone fails in life , he starts looking for other failures to justify his own failure
How did man u come this low..na wah..

adelaja70:

YOU funny.. Do you know a club called AC MILAN?

Yep. And they got bashed every year they were out of the elite circle. They celebrated their return on Sunday like a trophy. Do you want to become like them?
I guess not. That's my point. The club should change something before becoming like them.

Asiseeit:


Yep. And they got bashed every year they were out of the elite circle. They celebrated their return on Sunday like a trophy. Do you want to become like them?
I guess not. That's my point. The club should change something before becoming like them.

You know it's not possible.... So talk another thing.

osazsky:
so zidene will relegate himself so low so tayy he go na man u or asenal work him they find.na wah for una.maybe everton or Southampton' should go for him.oga he is going to psg .he is from frances since pochetino is going back to spurs.dont u watch skynews at home.na wah for una o.wonders they say will nerver end

I Said Man United Needs Zidane Or Conte' These Coaches Are Trophy Oriented Coaches.

Asiseeit:


I understand it hurts, so I'll ignore the insult. So to answer your question (bolded)

It makes their season a failure, just as the manager said. Even the players recognise this, only Nigerian Man Utd fans have a problem with this truth.

A club of Man Utd stature should not go FOUR SEASONS trophyless!

United's problem is simple!... Poor investment over the years. They have been wasting good money on the wrong players. If they had sorted out their transfer 'crisis' 3 seasons ago, they would have been winning trophies concurrently. You can't give what you don't have.

Forget all that talk of 'a club of Man United status'! Didn't a club of Chelsea's status lose 2 straight F.A cup finals??!... When you are unworthy of winning titles based on poor transfers, lack of squad depth, etc, then there is nothing you can do about that, it matters not whether you are a big club with history or not... Juventus had all the stars yet almost shamefully ended up in Europa for the first time since who knows when.

Yeah, their season ended poorly for losing that final, but it in no way makes them less than elite... Know this and quit arguing!!! Thank you.

osazsky:
y i like this life..when someone fails in life , he starts looking for other failures to justify his own failure
How did man u come this low..na wah..

So comparing ManU to one of the biggest football clubs in history is a LOW... YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN.

osazsky:
pls when a single defender or a single keeper can buy a full team .u play against that team and u where trashed.can u explain this with one single world.pls i am ready to learn

U still haven't answered my questions:

Is there a football definition of d word "mediocre"? Maybe FIFA and UEFA have given a set of criteria by which we should measure teams as "mediocre". Can u kindly help out with those universal criteria as set out by FIFA and UEFA?

post=102102806:
Someone said yesterday that Man utd should be consoled with the Trophy below...
People get bad mouth sha.
Man Utd fans make una no vex jare....
You will win the original Europa Trophy Next season....true true

;[color=#006600][/color] ;hahaha

Angelfrost:


I never tried to support or back United up... That's not my headache honestly.

I merely pointed out that it is quite wrong to label United a mediocre team based on losing a single final.

As for Villarreal being underdogs, let's give that a rest please... Villarreal is an under-performing club which should be finishing better than they do every season.

As for an inquest, yeah I support that wholly... That's the right thing to do.

Of course, united are not a mediocre team. If they are there won't be much noise. They are arguably in the top best 5 teams in the world, nah why they need to step up.

As for Villarreal, lol. They are a curious case. They need consistency. They are like the Tottenham of Spain. Using your words, could it be because they underperform is why they are seen as underdogs?

BF69BF:
Penalties FC, fraud of a club. Na only Arsenal own people go dey talk about, this penalty club has been trophyless since Mourinho dump their smelly ass.

Even their penalty couldn't save them

The funny thing is these same people will still be saying Mourinho is not good oo but since he left they haven’t won anything.

Imagine he was the one in charge as the coach yesterday, person wey no use finals play.

Angelfrost:


United's problem is simple!... Poor investment over the years. They have been wasting good money on the wrong players. If they had sorted out their transfer 'crisis' 3 seasons ago, they would have been winning trophies concurrently. You can't give what you don't have.

Forget all that talk of 'a club of Man United status'! Didn't a club of Chelsea's status lose 2 straight F.A cup finals??!... When you are unworthy of winning titles based on poor transfers, lack of squad depth, etc, then there is nothing you can do about that, it matters not whether you are a big club with history or not... Juventus had all the stars yet almost shamefully ended up in Europa for the first time since who knows when.

Yeah, their season ended poorly for losing that final, but it in no way makes them less than elite... Know this and quit arguing!!! Thank you.

Guy, please realise this - not everyone on this thread is out to get Man Utd fans.

Read all my comments, I never said Man Utd aren't elite or they are mediocre. I said they are a top club, which is why people are disappointed.
I also said, my issue with Man Utd is not just last night but the past 4 years (which you also agreed to)

So, where is the argument. If there's any argument, I'm sure it's constructive. So read my comments well and don't get carried away by that other Man Utd fan wey say ano get brain as him think say I dey troll am. There are people who are objective sport commentators.

Asiseeit:


Of course, united are not a mediocre team. If they are there won't be much noise. They are arguably in the top best 5 teams in the world, nah why they need to step up.

As for Villarreal, lol. They are a curious case. They need consistency. They are like the Tottenham of Spain. Using your words, could it be because they underperform is why they are seen as underdogs?

Yeah, probably the reason... I never saw them as under-dogs tho. I actually warned the over-confident United fans about the danger they posed.

However, the United that started this season and later topped the league ought to have beaten them wella!!! I believe fatigue got the better of that team!!!

I wish them better luck next season... They should learn from their individual and collective mistakes, and improve all round next season. They are on a good run.

lexy2014:


What makes u feel Villarreal is a mediocre team?

They finished 7th in Laliga and not close to good in the league.

Still wonder how they got to the UEL final.

Kindledlight:


They finished 7th in Laliga and not close to good in the league.

Still wonder how they got to the UEL final.

U say they are mediocre and u are wondering how they got to Europa final. Is there a football definition of d word "mediocre"? Maybe FIFA and UEFA have given a set of criteria by which we should measure teams as "mediocre". Can u kindly help out with those universal criteria as set out by FIFA and UEFA?

Asiseeit:


Guy, please realise this - not everyone on this thread is out to get Man Utd fans.

Read all my comments, I never said Man Utd aren't elite or they are mediocre. I said they are a top club, which is why people are disappointed.
I also said, my issue with Man Utd is not just last night but the past 4 years (which you also agreed to)

So, where is the argument. If there's any argument, I'm sure it's constructive. So read my comments well and don't get carried away by that other Man Utd fan wey say ano get brain as him think say I dey troll am. There are people who are objective sport commentators.

Oh I get you now... Well said.