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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by edryz(m): 6:57am On May 26, 2021
Israelicc:
Thou art on track. Don't forget your DC breakers o. For the batteries and also for the solar array.


What are the usefulness n functions of d breakers sir?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by quest4s: 7:49am On May 26, 2021
How long was it used and how much?



kiekie1:
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 8:10am On May 26, 2021
We are located at Ijegun,Lagos
edryz:




Where is this company located sir ?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 9:28am On May 26, 2021
Good morning house

If you are looking to invest in alternate energy "Go solar" with us

We are affordable, reliable and give excellent aftersale service.

We plan with you from project design to its execution

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 11:20am On May 26, 2021
quest4s:
How long was it used and how much?




SOLD!!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by AshipaEk0: 11:38am On May 26, 2021
Hello

Please I would like to make enquiries about using Solar for Air conditioning during the daytime without needing to install battery

I learnt such can be done.

Please enlighten me as to

1. how that works

2. What equipment needed.

3. How much it would cost.



The use scenario is an office with 7 Units AC.



3 Split AC

2 HP, 1 HP, 1.5 HP (Panasonic)


4 Window Units

2HP each (LG)
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 11:56am On May 26, 2021
AshipaEk0:
Hello

Please I would like to make enquiries about using Solar for Air conditioning during the daytime without needing to install battery

I learnt such can be done.

Please enlighten me as to

1. how that works

2. What equipment needed.

3. How much it would cost.



The use scenario is an office with 7 Units AC.



3 Split AC

2 HP, 1 HP, 1.5 HP (Panasonic)


4 Window Units

2HP each (LG)




the requirement for such, will be mind boggling
5pcs 2hp non inverter ac
1pc 1hp non inverter ac
1pc 1.5hp non inverter ac
that is about 12000 to 15000w here.. unless u are going to replace all AC to inverter variant, if not u are going to need over 18kw of premium panels and atleast 2pcs of 8kw deye..and u must need batteries (lots of it).. with the cost of it, u are better off fueling your gen for now cheesy

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by OCTAVO: 12:47pm On May 26, 2021
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by OCTAVO: 12:49pm On May 26, 2021
AshipaEk0:
Hello

Please I would like to make enquiries about using Solar for Air conditioning during the daytime without needing to install battery

I learnt such can be done.

Please enlighten me as to

1. how that works

2. What equipment needed.

3. How much it would cost.



The use scenario is an office with 7 Units AC.



3 Split AC

2 HP, 1 HP, 1.5 HP (Panasonic)


4 Window Units

2HP each (LG)




You can't completely eradicate the need for batteries because of intermittent clouds. Depending on the load, intermittent clouds won't make the hybrid inverter last! Small load might have no issues.
Unless there's guarantee of full sunshine, which is not always possible.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 4:50pm On May 26, 2021
ojeysky:


Wow! I still wonder and like to know why folks go this route though. Is it cheaper compared to DIY of higher capacity prismatic lifepo4 cells?

It's far cheaper to acquire the cells, which are of course salvaged. I like my DIY using 18650s as I can afford to lose a few cells to error. But I am much more careful when working with the more expensive LFPs.

zeestone99:


grin imagine police stop you for road see this one.

During the COVID lockdown, I had someone send me a pack containing about 400 pieces 18650s. The guy was transporting only goods as there is lockdown on movement of people. Police stop the guy for road. The guy gats call me to talk to the police say the officer dey wonder wetin dem be. I angrily spoke with the officer that an elementary student will decipher those objects to likely be batteries with the way they appear. I told him they are meant as replacement packs for medical equipments and so he must not even try anything funny otherwise he will have a lawsuit hanging on his neck. Me wey be say na for my own backyard power supply pack I want take am do.

cheesy
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 5:53pm On May 26, 2021
ceaser:


It's far cheaper to acquire the cells, which are of course salvaged. I like my DIY using 18650s as I can afford to lose a few cells to error. But I am much more careful when working with the more expensive LFPs.



During the COVID lockdown, I had someone send me a pack containing about 400 pieces 18650s. The guy was transporting only goods as there is lockdown on movement of people. Police stop the guy for road. The guy gats call me to talk to the police say the officer dey wonder wetin dem be. I angrily spoke with the officer that an elementary student will decipher those objects to likely be batteries with the way they appear. I told him they are meant as replacement packs for medical equipments and so he must not even try anything funny otherwise he will have a lawsuit hanging on his neck. Me wey be say na for my own backyard power supply pack I want take am do.

cheesy


grin grin grin criminal
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:29pm On May 26, 2021
MontyNG:
What are my options for a 48v LiFePO4 battery. I want to explore local suppliers before I consider importing it myself.

Also, will you be happy for me to test the capacity so make sure the tested capacity is the advertised capacity...
For example, I have witnessed situations where a 10KWh battery (48v/200ah) battery was tested to only have 7KWh

Cheers

I have a 48v 120ah pack booked with a supplier for next month ending. He is still mouthing 650k but I hope to negotiate a better deal when it arrives. The batteries are imported as already packaged battery but he does very effective after sales service. I have a 12v 120ah (from him for 2 years) and 24v 120ah (for 6 months) all working fine.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:38pm On May 26, 2021
MontyNG:
Thanks. I've been seeing different brands... I saw pylon tech, felicity, and blue cloud.

Still researching

Do you have contacts of folks who assemble locally?



Zero 8 Zero 3 Zero 6332 Zero 2

Have had 5 supplies from him till date. 3 units 24v 100ah and two units 12v 100ah. No complaints so far.

zeestone99:



grin grin grin criminal

Abi na. grin
As a healthcare worker that also work with resucitative medical equipment as part of the routine, if push comes to shove, I go still prove point. Those life sustaining equipments all have lithium backup power grin.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Israelicc: 6:44pm On May 26, 2021
Well DC breakers in this case or any type of beaker for that matter basically make or break an electrical circuit.

They also have other purposes.
1. They protect your wiring from any short circuit current that can cause a fire and eventual loss of your wiring or cabling.

2. They protect your equipment, whether it's our inverters, charge controllers, solar panels and batteries from short circuit currents that can damage them.

3. They are very useful when it comes to the case of isolation during maintenance of any of the line items, inverters, charge controllers, batteries and solar panels.

4. They help to limit the current that can be drawn from the devices they are connected to. This invariably helps to limit the likelihood of damage to those equipment.

5. Breakers are a most have a very professional install. You don't have them or I don't see them in your install and I already know the type of installer who did your install.

So my brother don't be like thoe guys who will say e no mean or you can connect it directly. Please run away from such installer.

I hope this has shed some light on the uses of breaker AC or DC.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Israelicc: 6:45pm On May 26, 2021
Well DC breakers in this case or any type of beaker for that matter basically make or break an electrical circuit.

They also have other purposes.
1. They protect your wiring from any short circuit current that can cause a fire and eventual loss of your wiring or cabling.

2. They protect your equipment, whether it's our inverters, charge controllers, solar panels and batteries from short circuit currents that can damage them.

3. They are very useful when it comes to the case of isolation during maintenance of any of the line items, inverters, charge controllers, batteries and solar panels.

4. They help to limit the current that can be drawn from the devices they are connected to. This invariably helps to limit the likelihood of damage to those equipment.

5. Breakers are a most have a very professional install. You don't have them or I don't see them in your install and I already know the type of installer who did your install.

So my brother don't be like thoe guys who will say e no mean or you can connect it directly. Please run away from such installer.

I hope this has shed some light on the uses of breaker AC or DC.






edryz:



What are the usefulness n functions of d breakers sir?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 6:56pm On May 26, 2021
Hi

1. How it works is that you are expected to have a steady power supply, then a Grid-tie inverter of say 20KWp or more is installed, the sun comes up and the inverter synchronise with the grid and supplies your loads, the higher your solar production is the lower the grid supplies you and the process is vice versa.
In short at the end of the day your utility bill will reduce.

But

Grid is not steady here, the closest option is an hybrid invester that can work without battery but because your load is high this method will fail without a small sized battery to it or a steady grid supply that will do as stated above.

2. Grid-tie inverter etc. Fronius, SMA, Growatt, Good we, Huawei

Hybrid inverter with independent battery operation
Axpert VM III Variants, Growatt SPH, Phocus etc

3. lipsrsealed better moni .... Plenty one

AshipaEk0:
Hello

Please I would like to make enquiries about using Solar for Air conditioning during the daytime without needing to install battery

I learnt such can be done.

Please enlighten me as to

1. how that works

2. What equipment needed.

3. How much it would cost.



The use scenario is an office with 7 Units AC.



3 Split AC

2 HP, 1 HP, 1.5 HP (Panasonic)


4 Window Units

2HP each (LG)




Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:05pm On May 26, 2021
MontyNG:
I’m looking to buy a 24V 7ah lipo battery.

Can anyone recommend?

(Sorry I only need one for my gate)

Also interested in this in case anyone has.

Penuelseun:
You can build one with 18650 cells, 3p7s cells configuration

Built one with 18650s. The batteries went out of balance early and I don't like the hassle of having to disassemble and top balance again. Hope to get a pack with LFP of around 7ah or 20ah per cell.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojesymsym: 9:27pm On May 26, 2021
Very nice submission. I wanted to reply earlier but I forgot the Grid tie name and I also could not see my diagram for referencing.

As for the bolded, one workaround is to use another simple battery inverter to play the role of the grid for synchronization.
olopan:
Hi

1. How it works is that you are expected to have a steady power supply, then a Grid-tie inverter of say 20KWp or more is installed, the sun comes up and the inverter synchronise with the grid and supplies your loads, the higher your solar production is the lower the grid supplies you and the process is vice versa.
In short at the end of the day your utility bill will reduce.

But

Grid is not steady here, the closest option is an hybrid invester that can work without battery but because your load is high this method will fail without a small sized battery to it or a steady grid supply that will do as stated above.

2. Grid-tie inverter etc. Fronius, SMA, Growatt, Good we, Huawei

Hybrid inverter with independent battery operation
Axpert VM III Variants, Growatt SPH, Phocus etc

3. lipsrsealed better moni .... Plenty one

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 10:36pm On May 26, 2021
True about the simple battery inverter,

But that will require a system of special inverters like victron, SMA to form a mini-grid that the inverters will then feed into to supply loads.

IMO I think it defeats the idea of the Op running away from battery all together.

ojesymsym:
Very nice submission. I wanted to reply earlier but I forgot the Grid tie name and I also could not see my diagram for referencing.

As for the bolded, one workaround is to use another simple battery inverter to play the role odnthe grid for synchronization.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 7:42am On May 27, 2021
AshipaEk0:
Hello

Please I would like to make enquiries about using Solar for Air conditioning during the daytime without needing to install battery

I learnt such can be done.

Please enlighten me as to

1. how that works

2. What equipment needed.

3. How much it would cost.



The use scenario is an office with 7 Units AC.



3 Split AC

2 HP, 1 HP, 1.5 HP (Panasonic)


4 Window Units

2HP each (LG)





YOU ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 13kw load, 2 to 3 units of 8kw deye shud do the trick, if you stagger the start up of the acs, or have inverter ac, or 4 to 5units of 5.5kw sorotec, the more the merrier.
a 500ah 48v can act as a buffer, to complement, if budget is tight and you are in an area with ample sunlight...say northern nigeria, however x3 of this is recommended. for panels since your load is roughly 13kw, you wud need 2 to 4x of this to ensure smooth operation {location dependent}, so lets assume 39kw o, though you could get away with 26kw if you are in northern naija, premuim panels o, ie 130 pieces of 300w panels , or 90 pieces.

edit : sorotec 5.5kw can take 5kw panels, so you would need about 8 units. for 39kw array
deye 8kw can take about 8kw panels, since it has 2 mppts, so you need 5 units deye for 39kw array.

1 piece 300w panel is about 2.5sq meter, so you need real estate of over 300sqm to install the panels, a 50ft x 100ft plot of land is about 470sqm to put this in perspective.

330w canadian panel is about 70k
5.5kw sorotec with batteryless fxn is about 370k
8kw deye is about 1.4m naira

WITH LITHUIM CELLS and their huge 1c to 3c load carrying capability, this kind of setup is better run on a small lifepo4 battery setup, to act as a buffer, with enough controls to turn off load on cloudy days/after 5pm and 20% battery soc

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojesymsym: 9:34am On May 27, 2021
I don't think so. A normal setup with this his kind of requirement will require hundreds of batteries, but with this model, he can use two even low capacity batteries just to power the inverter that will give the main inverter its reference voltage.

olopan:
True about the simple battery inverter,

But that will require a system of special inverters like victron, SMA to form a mini-grid that the inverters will then feed into to supply loads.

IMO I think it defeats the idea of the Op running away from battery all together.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 10:28am On May 27, 2021
I get your point now, it's another way to look at it.

ojesymsym:
I don't think so. A normal setup with this his kind of requirement will require hundreds of batteries, but with this model, he can use two even low capacity batteries just to power the inverter that will give the main inverter its reference voltage.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 2:41pm On May 27, 2021
We still offer the best design and installation... Anywhere across Nigeria; exception of North and few part of East grin grin grin

Happy Children's day to us all... Lollzzz

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 9:00am On May 28, 2021
If anyone has 280ah or 100ah lifepo4 batteries, kindly quote me. Thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 2:42pm On May 28, 2021
Beautiful!!! This is exactly what i like.
For the first picture, I'd prefer all the breakers, DBs and switches in one sexy Electrical Control Panel (ECP).

mcTrinity:
We still offer the best design and installation... Anywhere across Nigeria; exception of North and few part of East grin grin grin

Happy Children's day to us all... Lollzzz
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Israelicc: 2:45pm On May 28, 2021
Nice job Sir. I like the fact that your installation is well planned out. Everything in its place. This is what it is..
A clean install, wires are concealed as much as possible.

To every professional installer out there. I greet you all. Let's keep raising the bar. Let's walk the talk. cool


mcTrinity:
We still offer the best design and installation... Anywhere across Nigeria; exception of North and few part of East grin grin grin

Happy Children's day to us all... Lollzzz

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 2:58pm On May 28, 2021
Barezzi:
Beautiful!!! This is exactly what i like.
For the first picture, I'd prefer all the breakers, DBs and switches in one sexy Electrical Control Panel (ECP).


Thanks boss, I appreciate...

Hahahah, definitely that your setup needs a central ECP; plenty components smiley
As for it being sexy, I hope madam would not be forced to yank it out one day and dispose it grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by sofiscatedmoron: 7:55pm On May 28, 2021
wilmaria14:
sunfit or sun-test
Pls sunfit and gbm which ia better ,i know they are not the expensive brands
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by IYGEAL(m): 9:03pm On May 28, 2021
Valto:
the requirement for such, will be mind boggling
5pcs 2hp non inverter ac
1pc 1hp non inverter ac
1pc 1.5hp non inverter ac
that is about 12000 to 15000w here.. unless u are going to replace all AC to inverter variant, if not u are going to need over 18kw of premium panels and atleast 2pcs of 8kw deye..and u must need batteries (lots of it).. with the cost of it, u are better off fueling your gen for now cheesy

I understand some of the inverter ACs don't need anything else except PV power to function. Apparently that's what he's trying to find out.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 6:31am On May 29, 2021
sofiscatedmoron:

Pls sunfit and gbm which ia better ,i know they are not the expensive brands
I don't know of gbm but stay away from Sunfit
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 7:19am On May 29, 2021
sofiscatedmoron:

Pls sunfit and gbm which ia better ,i know they are not the expensive brands
the two of them are scrap. why not save up and buy original battery. cheap battery, will give u limited backup and will definitely fail in less than a year.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 7:23am On May 29, 2021
DUNKA:
I don't know of gbm but stay away from Sunfit
GBM is worst of them all sad

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