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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:05pm On May 27, 2021 |
Fkhalifa:I dont agree with that bolded one bit at all. Maybe presently but never ever when emery was initially employed. I mean we just finished 6th the previous season before he was employed and that was once in over 20yrs. How then are we a mid table team or a relegation looking team? Reason we employed Emery to take us back to the top(at least top4) since we saw him as an elite manager and not some mid table manager like Moyes or sort. Emery failed such task in his first season and looked far worse in his 2nd season and you want us to be happy because he took sevilla to b2b2b Europa? Wetin concern us with sevilla?. Please, we still had hope of having top 4 reason why we employed Emery, he failed in it and that's fact. We left him till the 2nd season and he got worse, thus rightfully deserving the sack. Let us don't paint Emery as if he was one klopp or guardiola that guarantees standard top4 every season. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 12:42pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:Well, if you say lost dressing room reasons, I have no issues with that. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 12:59pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:You don't get me, Arsenal was like relegation threatened teams who often call up on Allardyce to safe them, I only used that simile to buttress why Emery wasn't hired majorly to win the league or UCL but rather take midtable teams back to UCL which I feel he was good enough and could have achieved in a sane environment he proved again yesterday anyways. You said Emery failed in his first season but if you look deep inward you'll know with the bad Atmosphere he had, he alone shouldn't take the entire blame... If you consider facts like him having no say on players signings and no backing from the board( Which serious club concentrates on bringing Retirees like Luiz and Litchtener while your rivals were signing the Maguire,V.dijk and Laporte) who allowed players to disrespect mock the coach... Also, club where every players are mostly insipid and lackadaisical with zero fight of every drop of their sweat and blood... Bro, The problem is the mentality and atmosphere around the club from the owner to the board to the coaching crew and players even to some of the fans. I want to see how Pep and Klopp will survive competiting with Luiz,Mustafi,Kolasinac,Litchtener against Laporte,Diaz, V.dijk and Maguire. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:09pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera: If u hear them talk about "Good Ebening" glowingly u will think he's some pep Guardiola reincarnate or something. The Spaniard Kadiri Ikana actually finished 7th in the La Liga in a season which Barca, Madrid and Sevilla with their aging squad were not in great form.....Yet na 7th Good Ebening carry. The fact is even if u buy that guy the whole Dortmund team and their budding talents, the highest "Good Ebening" will get you is to win one cup competition and then maybe qualify for Europa the next season. He is a cup competition coach and won't get you far in the league. Like u rightly said, this man will win Europa with Sevilla, qualify for Champions league and still drop back to Europa ...... Isn't that some crazy shit? Funny enough he has qualified for Champions league tru Europa cup now, my eyes are certainly on him to see if his Leopard will change his spots next year. Arteta as rookie manager won F.A cup in his first full season and was almost going to make another cup final before he outdid himself. I'm all for replacing Arteta if we get a top coach willing to take the job, but I will never agree a little patience from the fans would've turn around our fortune under "Good Ebening " ; that guy exhausted our patience and he got what was coming to him. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by johnjunior39(m): 1:20pm On May 27, 2021 |
Dear Arsenal a 22yr old Donnuranma will be a free agent.... We are the only few that can offer him first team, Leno is 29 oh. I don't even understand this who noise about singing another defender, are we selling holding and Mari |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SodO9: 1:22pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:I fear for Leno's life that year, it's as if na shots go kill am |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 2:09pm On May 27, 2021 |
They are all getting off the market like play and e dey pain me. Allegri, the coach I desperately hoped we hire after Senger and Ebening is now heading to Juventus while we stuck with Spanish Kadiri Ikhana Rangnick I hear may be heading to Spuds and even without Kane, Rangnick is quite capable of springing some surprises. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 2:14pm On May 27, 2021 |
BlueRayDick: I think you are getting the positions wrongs about this argument and I hope you see the difference. Maybe I should speak for my self. I am not necessarily saying Ebening should have remained coach, I gave up by December after his first season. I pushed for his sack sef but I also knew Arteta shouldn’t have been the replacement.. Arteta was like from frying pan to fire and that is even dent with our current situation. When Wenger left, I advocated for Allergri/ Enrique/ Nagglesman.. After Ebening, we should have been more strategic in his replacement. No one, at least for me is saying Ebening shouldn’t have been fired but replacing him with Arteta? That was horrible because Arteta is no where near Ebening.. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 2:26pm On May 27, 2021 |
SodO9: Baba, all this shalaye on top say u wan console yourself... 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 2:28pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera: We are waiting patiently for Arteta next season. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SodO9: 2:42pm On May 27, 2021 |
Akinbahm:Last time I checked I didn't write a full page of nonsense |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by fredoooooo: 2:50pm On May 27, 2021 |
Roland17, padimi .. Zidane , Conte are available o, should we start start doing daily contributions abi make we go collect gbomu le lantern money from bank, to pay them .. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 3:18pm On May 27, 2021 |
Roland17: Your position is very clear and it somehow aligns with mine on this matter. Your fears and mine is well documented here . At least below are excerpts of our individual opinions on Arteta's appointment Roland17: BlueRayDick: I didn't support the appointment of Arteta in the first place but had to get behind him in support because of the love for the club and whoever they have handed the club's affairs to. However, Inasmuch as Arteta has confirmed our fears, the last thing I will do is to tolerate Emery fan boys who want to try and rewrite the story and make it seem as if Emery was treated unfairly when he the got the sack letter he totally deserved. By the way, oga spy360 Do u still hold this believe about our current squad or your position has changed? Spy360: |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 3:36pm On May 27, 2021 |
fredoooooo: The one wen we borrow for March, we just borrow another money to pay for that one sef.. You no know how much I dey swear for the board and KSN! Suddenly, Zidane/ Conte/ Rangnick/ Allergri until are available but we are stuck with this Spanish Khadiri Ikahana who has become very comfortable Na Saturday I dey wait for.. You sabi say many people don book dat date.. Man Utd fans go carry am for head like kilode.. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:33pm On May 27, 2021 |
Sharp Sharp Chukwueze and Coquelin will play UcL next season niyen o BTW, Lana1 should please come explain how Man utd went to Poland with three coaches Olé solskajaer Sir Alex Ferguson Wayne Rooney And lost to one man Unai Emery 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 4:42pm On May 27, 2021 |
Akinbahm:Yeah... Hopefully, he'll get a full preseason to himself plus no Europe distraction. Seeing that stupid won't sack him, let me be a little optimistic and see what he can do |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 4:44pm On May 27, 2021 |
SodO9:Lol... Na the main reason why I no too vex when we sell Martinez, not knowing it'll come back to haunt us. Well, next season dey sha |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 4:52pm On May 27, 2021 |
BlueRayDick: Lol... Na the bolded vex me with Arteta big time. If Emery had tactically outwitted Arteta with his average players, I won't have much complains but it's Arteta that outdid himself. Even the 2nd leg just proved mother luck was with Villarreal with 3 bars hit even with our insipid display. Anyhow sha, it's all good and kudos to Emery this king of Europa. No matter how, it's not an easy feat for him to achieve |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by fredoooooo: 4:53pm On May 27, 2021 |
Roland17:Roland no kill me with laugh abeg |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lana1(m): 4:53pm On May 27, 2021 |
Fkhalifa: |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SodO9: 5:07pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:Omo Leno wan die no be small But which kind stupid tactics go they allow opponents fire shots at your keeper Emery na bastard abeg, why the werey no try am with scummies or against us |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:11pm On May 27, 2021 |
Fkhalifa: 1...I get your point but then you're looking at Emery as a coach that can take a mid table team to champions league. That I felt was your mistake. Arsenal was not a mid table team, we were always top 4 contenders and the board hired him for such, not that the hired him for us to be finishing 6th and 7th while winning Europa. 2... When he came initially, the atmosphere was bright and all. Everyone wanted to play for him. If it later turned sour, maybe he should look at himself also. Bear in mind that he wasn't able to fully control a room with neymar, mbappe and cavani, how much more a volatile personality like ozil. 3... I think he sanctioned the transfer of guen and torreira with sokratis. Maybe aside lichs, but he sanctioned those first 3 4... As for the lackadaisical attitude and mentality, it's the job of the coach to make them winners. Klopp did it when he came to Liverpool. You could see his fighting spirit in the team. I give it to Emery that he started giving them that winner's attitude and improve our mentality, but along the line he lost his way. Reason why our first season ended poorly and his 2nd season was damn so bad. And as for klopp and guardiola, why they might not win trophies with this present squad, buy one thing is certain, you'll surely see improvement in play and mentality. With those two attributes added, he can then phase them out gradually while bringing his players. Emery didn't reach the stage to phase them out gradually reason why he was axed. Hope you get my point tho |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:14pm On May 27, 2021 |
SodO9:omo, Leno wan die that season sha. Na so our midfield go turn express, straight to defence Shots wey Leno dey receive then eh, if na diz season Leno, na we and Fulham abi Westbrom for dey drag who suppose dey 18th Him don learn na. Sha me I also believed arsenal experience strengthened him with this his present adventure in Villarreal |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 5:21pm On May 27, 2021 |
Fkhalifa: Dem carry DNA wan come celebrate.. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:28pm On May 27, 2021 |
Roland17:It was really some sifia pains for them |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:41pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:You still do not get or agree with some of my points and I don't know how to explain further than I've done. Summarily, My point is Unai Emery has proven he is not a bad manager( with his trophies in Europe and France), good enough to take Arsenal to Europe only if the board were financially ambitious enough, and have players who can fight with blood on the pitch as we've seen with his previous teams... Dazzal 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:04pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:It makes more sense than what you stated of him. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:05pm On May 27, 2021 |
kodded:What did you say about Willock. That is the point. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:07pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:What other mistakes did Wenger make? Those talking about Wenger's mentality probably never watched a team he coached. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:16pm On May 27, 2021 |
mostob:You made valid points here, in that Wenger made the board comfortable, making UCL spot year on year despite very poor investments. Should we blame Wenger for sticking to the club he loves or blame him for still finishing top four and making the board comfortable? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 6:16pm On May 27, 2021 |
This is one of the worst Arsenal sides I have ever witnessed. Not in quality but in attitude, will to win, turn up at important games, motivation etc. etc. There are a few quality players especially in some of the youngsters who are in danger of being overplayed. When results don’t matter we suddenly win 5 meaningless games in a row at the end of the season I will sit and take notice if we win the FIRST 5 games of next season. The sad fact is, we have become a mid table side with a mountain to climb to even get back to our previous default position of top 4 in the EPL. #copied Attitude and Motivation, another pressing issue I feel can only be solved by flushing half the squad and bringing in energetic and spirited players like the Sanchez and Kantes. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:17pm On May 27, 2021 |
Jodera:I asked a question. |
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