veekid:
post the drawings let's see

Ok Sir I will.

samoranononi:


I’ve been trying my best not to insult you or curse you despite everything you’ve done and said. You agreed 10k for architectural design and 20k for both the architectural, structural and mechanical but with what I’ve seen so far it was the hunger in you that was bargaining price. You were so desperate to get money from me. You didn’t send any job to me when I was you to pause the drawing until I get the 20k you asked for but the hunger made you to rain curses and insults. You said a design I didn’t understand and I asked you what is next. You said you were busy with the rest that it doesn’t work that way. Only for you to ask for more 30k I have the charge where you asked for 25k after I told you numerous times that I don’t have the money for such at the moment. I even said I won’t complain about my architect again since I couldn’t afford to pay good money. Honestly I’m not sad because of the 20k or how you played me. I’m only sad because I trusted you and expected more from you. I understand there’s nothing hunger can’t do to someone but you should have handle it in mature way. If I want to make trouble with you. Our conversations are enough but it’s ok. Enjoy your life Sir.

No wonder the guy accepted 20k.

EgunMogaji2:


I was quoted I think N5M for my drawings. Mo ya japa. Mi o ronyon.

Baba. The no you then that why. Now way you be permanent resident there, they wont try it with you. Say na airport the want build for you?

samoranononi:


I’ve been trying my best not to insult you or curse you despite everything you’ve done and said. You agreed 10k for architectural design and 20k for both the architectural, structural and mechanical but with what I’ve seen so far it was the hunger in you that was bargaining price. You were so desperate to get money from me. You didn’t send any job to me when I was you to pause the drawing until I get the 20k you asked for but the hunger made you to rain curses and insults. You said a design I didn’t understand and I asked you what is next. You said you were busy with the rest that it doesn’t work that way. Only for you to ask for more 30k I have the charge where you asked for 25k after I told you numerous times that I don’t have the money for such at the moment. I even said I won’t complain about my architect again since I couldn’t afford to pay good money. Honestly I’m not sad because of the 20k or how you played me. I’m only sad because I trusted you and expected more from you. I understand there’s nothing hunger can’t do to someone but you should have handle it in mature way. If I want to make trouble with you. Our conversations are enough but it’s ok. Enjoy your life Sir.

20k for both arch and Structural designs ke!

samoranononi:


Ok Sir I will.

First of all... I am not happy an architect Drew this kind of plan for a client in this 21st century.

1. The Rooms are like a prison... God forbid.. if there is fire outbreak from the kitchen and have spread to the dining and living room.. the whole family in the rooms will perish because the only access way is the long corridor to the living room..

2. What we normally preach here about darkness at corridor will be experiensed in this plan because there is no natural light access to the corridor.
3. why locate all the bedrroms to that back including Master bedroom. For security reasons... a room is should at least face the gate... though not a must...

lastly... stanlee. pkease refund the clients money.. This is not an architectural design...

Jumyg:


20k for both arch and Structural designs ke!

Including mechanical drawing too.. Don't understand .... O deep gan

topsy23:


Including mechanical drawing too.. Don't understand .... O deep gan

lol probably a draughtsman...

I come in peace

micgray100:


First of all... I am not happy an architect Drew this kind of plan for a client in this 21st century.

1. The Rooms are like a prison... God forbid.. if there is fire outbreak from the kitchen and have spread to the dining and living room.. the whole family in the rooms will perish because the only access way is the long corridor to the living room..

2. What we normally preach here about darkness at corridor will be experiensed in this plan because there is no natural light access to the corridor.
3. why locate all the bedrroms to that back including Master bedroom. For security reasons... a room is should at least face the gate... though not a must...

lastly... stanlee. pkease refund the clients money.. This is not an architectural design...

with all due respect sir...............

Wonderment.

uncleteeh:

Look at the breath of the building, 12.9m out of 15m.
What if you were to approve the design, it's definitely not gonna be possible.
If you claim to be on a tight budget, eliminate anteroom, it's not needed at all.
Anteroom always becomes as useless as dinning in a Nigerian home.

My Oga I’m just tired with the whole thing. I’ll pause everything for now or maybe we can go with the last design and adjust the thing Oga Next pointed out.

bixton:


What was the nature of the building that was designed ( duplex, bungalows, etc,etc)

It was a 2-1/2 storey building I.e duplex with pent floor

samoranononi:


Ok Sir I will.

Throw this thing inside the waste bin, it is not fit at all.
apologize to the initial guy doing the job and let him do the necessary corrections. Move on with the initial design abeg.

stanley000:
you are welcome my oga. He refused to post the design masterpiece i gave him lol. I challenge him to post the drawing compared to the trash the previous baba gave him. I wanted to give him all the drawings but he wanted to play me even on top the fact that i wanted to help him so that's why I changed my mind. There's no fraud here, i only want payment for my work simple.

Help kwa!
He shouldn't be paying if you helping Sir.
And you could have pointed out necessary corrections here as the previous person he contracted is still ready to edit corrections given, that could have been help.

And you could have waited for your payment (part) before starting the drawing to avoid what eventually happened.
Anyways, u can post your drawing here yourself if you are that confident and want to promote yourself

kopell:
Can you tell us the scope of your drawing? This is a little on the high side for regular joes like us. Many of these professionals with Core this Core that end up giving Baba Lati the job without stepping on your side till the job finish. Some of them will come online displaying grammars of professionalism comparing themselves with foreign professionals practicing in other jurisdictions. One thing that is clear to me is to be a PE engineer or Core as they call it, in this part of the world you must be in practice for at least 10 years and exhibit multiply projects that you singlehandedly done over the years before one can seat for that exam. This exam is not cheap, after acquiring your education with sometimes up to or over $100,000 in student loans to attain those professional license. Honestly, can our local professionals comparing their charges with foreign counterparts practicing in other parts of the world. With many of them not even aware of liability that can ruin the entire professional life if anything went wrong in the line of their duty. In my opinion, this is why many of their foreign counterparts charging what the government prescribed for them to charge. Factoring all those student loans and liabilities into those charges, do we have all of this in Nigeria? Even with all this, there is heavy taxes these professionals pay to the government. In honesty, how many of our professionals here paying those taxes, even regular taxes? People pay ties to churches and mosque's than government taxes.

Really it seems I have always been quoted high prices for this service. The first time I made drawings was in 2012 and it was 500k. I made another one in 2014/15 for 700k. I did not build any of those as I changed my mind, sold one of the land and still keeping the other. This one of 1.4 million was done last year and I am about completing the building now. My friends get quoted similar figures for their drawings too so I am baffled at the prices guys are quoting.

flexyonline:


Really it seems I have always been quoted high prices for this service. The first time I made drawings was in 2012 and it was 500k. I made another one in 2014/15 for 700k. I did not build any of those as I changed my mind, sold one of the land and still keeping the other. This one of 1.4 million was done last year and I am about completing the building now. My friends get quoted similar figures for their drawings too so I am baffled at the prices guys are quoting.

my brother ignore those clowns talking above. the fool is even saying it with pride that an architect agreed to do a drawing for 10k. only a jobless person will reply him.

flexyonline:
It was a 2-1/2 storey building I.e duplex with pent floor

It may worth the amount and it may not. The credentials of the person or firm and their experience in the industry may account for such. Certain times when a potential client is profiled by a contractor to have money then it's an avenue to make you pay above the norm.
But you can always get it for less and even less. The most important thing is getting a good design that meets modern requirements for human habitation given the land size and shape.

stanley000:
my brother ignore those clowns talking above. the fool is even saying it with pride that an architect agreed to do a drawing for 10k. only a jobless person will reply him.

Oh ok. After all your insults and curses, You still call me a fool? This is the height of it.

samoranononi:


My Oga I’m just tired with the whole thing. I’ll pause everything for now or maybe we can go with the last design and adjust the thing Oga Next pointed out.

If you decide to go for this one. Instead of putting a glass block or window in that front because of natural light or whatever kindly add it as closet(wardrobe) to the master bedroom and probably put a fabricated glass door in the main lounge gaining access into the lobby to throw light there. Just my advice.

stanley000:
my brother ignore those clowns talking above. the fool is even saying it with pride that an architect agreed to do a drawing for 10k. only a jobless person will reply him.

You're still throwing insults. You condemned the drawing his architect did and here we have yours posted as requested by you

Does your design really look top notch Mr. Professional Architect?

samoranononi:


Oh ok. After all your insults and curses, You still call me a fool? This is the height of it.

u are not just a fool u are a goat, malu meh meh. coz u now have small money to buy blocks abi, look at you that was begging on nairaland years back infact the reason u signed up on nairaland feb 2013 was to beg for arms and by then i was already building my second house in lagos. u kids that think u are smart, i cant come on nairaland and start trading words with u coz u are below my league u might be the same age as my son self. go and work with that plan u already have, i hope it fits into the 30x15 u have lol

bixton:


You're still throwing insults. You condemned the drawing his architect did and here we have yours posted as requested by you

Does your design really look top notch Mr. Professional Architect?

that design there will easily pass for approval mr man but u may be a criminal that wants to build without seeking approval first.

stanley000:
that design there will easily pass for approval mr man but u may be a criminal that wants to build without seeking approval first.

Do you want to hide under the need for approval for relevant authorities and you ended up doing a not too pleasant drawing.....
If you were an architect you would not insult your fellow colleague and condemn his design except maybe that's what you do to get jobs....
Is that how you hustle?

sconp:


If you see anyone offering to do architectural, mechanical, electrical and structural design for 50k you better run faraway.
Most are just charlatans looking for next daily bread and what you'll get would be almost useless and won't stand scrutiny.

In your case, you probably engaged a top firm and most likely your scale of work was larger and perhaps supervision was included.

I'd also be wary of architects who draw structural designs.

I'd also be wary of people who go about swearing, cussing and cursing.

You are so on point.
A professional architect will never do structural drawings himself except he is also a well trained structural engineer or has a structural engineer attach/with his firm to do it.
That Stanley of a guy is not an Architect (registered) probably a draftsman

stanley000:
u are not just a fool u are a goat, malu meh meh. coz u now have small money to buy blocks abi, look at you that was begging on nairaland years back infact the reason u signed up on nairaland feb 2013 was to beg for arms and by then i was already building my second house in lagos. u kids that think u are smart, i cant come on nairaland and start trading words with u coz u are below my league u might be the same age as my son self. go and work with that plan u already have, i hope it fits into the 30x15 u have lol

Did I get the part where you wrote "I hope it fits into the 30*15 I already have.
You not referring to the drawing you just did right

Horlardorjah:



You are so on point.
A professional architect will never do structural drawings himself except he is also a well trained structural engineer or has a structural engineer attach/with his firm to do it.
That Stanley of a guy is not an Architect (registered) probably a draftsman

are u sure about that bro? in this hard nigeria now who still does only one job? i do structural drawings very well, MEP too. i was lucky to have an electrical engineer as a father my electrical drawings are top notch. so wherever the job comes from i eat it like jollof. alot of structures at eti osa ikorodu isolo were designed my me. my drawings go through physical planning without a single comment, my calculation sheet in structures will make u pee in ur pants. i dont even handle contracts unless it will be worth my effort, i reject alot of them. i can sit with my laptop designing, for 6months like a yahooboy . i have sold my template for 100k for fellow architects and engineers. sit there and be speaking grammar.

kopell:
Baba. The no you then that why. Now way you be permanent resident there, they wont try it with you. Say na airport the want build for you?

To be honest I was back in the USA then playing Americana. So I just googled Ibadan and Architect. I forgot the name but I think it was one of those big companies that I called.

stanley000:
u are not just a fool u are a goat, malu meh meh. coz u now have small money to buy blocks abi, look at you that was begging on nairaland years back infact the reason u signed up on nairaland feb 2013 was to beg for arms and by then i was already building my second house in lagos. u kids that think u are smart, i cant come on nairaland and start trading words with u coz u are below my league u might be the same age as my son self. go and work with that plan u already have, i hope it fits into the 30x15 u have lol

Wow, you just insulted yourself. You mean you built your second house when I was still undergraduate and yet you scammed the poor boy of his hard earned 20k to feed yourself and family. I thank God i don’t look like what I’ve through. Glory be to God. Mr plenty houses, Please refund my 20k since you have so much already. The 20k is from my business capital or you’ve spent everything already?

And you collected 20k?

stanley000:
are u sure about that bro? in this hard nigeria now who still does only one job? i do structural drawings very well, MEP too. i was lucky to have an electrical engineer as a father my electrical drawings are top notch. so wherever the job comes from i eat it like jollof. alot of structures at eti osa ikorodu isolo were designed my me. my drawings go through physical planning without a single comment, my calculation sheet in structures will make u pee in ur pants. i dont even handle contracts unless it will be worth my effort, i reject alot of them. i can sit with my laptop designing, for 6months like a yahooboy . i have sold my template for 100k for fellow architects and engineers. sit there and be speaking grammar.

flexyonline:


Really it seems I have always been quoted high prices for this service. The first time I made drawings was in 2012 and it was 500k. I made another one in 2014/15 for 700k. I did not build any of those as I changed my mind, sold one of the land and still keeping the other. This one of 1.4 million was done last year and I am about completing the building now. My friends get quoted similar figures for their drawings too so I am baffled at the prices guys are quoting.

If all professionals are to charge the standard fee for drawings and other services like consultation and the likes, many won't be able to afford it and the professional bodies are not so united to stand n enforce this
The disunity in those association have way to people that are not even graduates of those professions to practice with little knowledge they have which is one the comedy you just read now.
You were not quotes high except you did not get value for your money.
I do designs with many details inclusive, ceilings, tiles, landscape n many more that the cheap ones won't do, hence I will charge more than people doing cut n paste

samoranononi:


Thank you Sir. I appreciate this. The architect even sent me another he designed that I should check it out and get back to him.

Frankly I think this was once a 2 bedroom plan that was forced into a 3 bedder.

EgunMogaji2:


Frankly I think this was once a 2 bedroom plan that was forced into a 3 bedder.

Thanks your contribution Sir. I won’t accept this. Maybe I’ll go with the first one and tell him about the corrections. Thanks Sir

twinskenny:
lol probably a draughtsman...

I come in peace

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