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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 5:54pm On May 30, 2021
benalvino2:


Lol. I set a trap and he fell for it. I said let's see if...

If I complete the above it would be lets see if he understood or even read the pdf he presented. So I took a portion from the link or pdf he provide and just present it as my argument.

And behold, he disagrees with it grin

He disagrees with a portion in the article explaining what he claims.

If you read the pdf you will see that he made it white vs blacks neglecting Hispanics, immigrants etc.
You're a special kind of unintelligent I swear grin show me how I disagreed? I started with ''and?'' Then I asked how it the excerpt you quoted supported any alternate theory or argument you might support and thirdly I enquired about what special type of fruitcake liked your comment, the excerpt which standalone obviously offered no arguments cheesy obviously you can read but you either have a comprehension challenge or you're duplicitous trying to frame an argument in which you have little to no locus standing in terms of you said this not that while hoping I don't notice you skirting around the topic itself like you did in the other conversation we had grin
Your argument now is no longer whether over the decades white Americans have been the main benefactors of social security as compared to black Americans but that I somehow disagreed with you and as such contradicted my argument grin
And you're the one who obviously didn't read the article or you would have seen where it was stated repeatedly that for the time frame of this study there hasn't been enough Hispanic data to work with as Hispanics are relatively recent generational migrants and when they qualified to contribute they usually have fewer sufficient years to pay into social security as such that at the time of retirement many don't qualify for it and the Hispanics born in America and currently working they are not old enough to start benefiting from it. And also, social security is for citizens, wetin consign migrants for the matter mbok ? undecided

Goofing with confidence! cheesy chai!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 5:56pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


Getting the wrong point. I asked why they deciared the vaccine news after the elections. Trump had said there would be a vaxx before the end of the year but media disapproved him repeatedly.

The same 5G vaccine you lots don't want anything to do with grin

The vaccine news was released after trials were completed. That is your answer.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:56pm On May 30, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:

Hell lotto buildings?
Could have been the umbrella man.

Hell lotto building NOT capitol Building.

Oya start defending your white supremacist below.

Where was that?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 5:58pm On May 30, 2021
budaatum:


You keep avoiding my questions and changing the topic of discussion. Do you not see how inept your drumptf must be if as President of the USA he could ​not even get departments he presides over to release news of the vaccine to COVID-19?

All he had to do was call a press conference to show himself receiving the vaccine, but did he not receive it in secret whilst telling his magas not to receive it at all even, because Gates was trying to chip them with 5G and they should do something with bleach instead?

Go on, remind me of the kraken you were peddling for him at the time because I sure have difficulty keeping up with all your conspiracies!
Budaatum. I did not even see this post before I replied Basilico.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:59pm On May 30, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:

The same 5G vaccine you lots don't want anything to do with grin

The vaccine news was released after trials were completed. That is your answer.


I wont call you names, had there been any news of vaxx progress before the elections. , it would have favored Trump.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 5:59pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


I wont call you names, had there been any news of vaxx progress before the elections. , it would have favored Trump.
Call me names now. Don't be scared. You know I would give it to you double. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 6:00pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


I wont call you names, had there been any news of vaxx progress before the elections. , it would have favored Trump.
Same news I posted earlier on. Did you turnoff your images to save data?

Change the settings on your opera mini and reload.

Was XiBiden the president in July 2020?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:02pm On May 30, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:

Budaatum. I did not even see this post before I replied Basilico.

I would think its a personal choice, knowing he had already been treated for covid-19.
Never heard about 5G chip in that vaxx though Bill Gates might want to have a chip in everybody.

Dr Rand Paul is not taking the vaccine because he believes he acquired immunity after getting the virus.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:03pm On May 30, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:

Budaatum. I did not even see this post before I replied Basilico.

That's what happens when you are telling the truth. You post it then find you are not the only one posting it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:04pm On May 30, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:

Same news I posted earlier on. Did you turnoff your images to save data?

Change the settings on your opera mini and reload.

Was XiBiden the president in July 2020?

Thanks for that. When it did become safe for human use?
After elections Pfizer made a loud announcement.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 6:05pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


Thanks fir that. When it did become safe for human use?
After elections Pfizer made a loud announcement.
I already mentioned that earlier.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:05pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


I wont call you names, ....

We don't call people names on Sunday, Basilico. We agreed, remember?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 6:06pm On May 30, 2021
budaatum:


That's what happens when you are telling the truth. You post it then find you are not the only one posting it.
I agree. Proverbs 12 vs 19.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 6:06pm On May 30, 2021
budaatum:


We don't call people names on Sunday, Basilico. We agreed, remember?
grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:08pm On May 30, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:

Call me names now. Don't be scared. You know I would give it to you double. grin

Please don't.

Sunday Basilico is not the same as the during the week basilico, so he must be treated with regard and respect on Sundays please, because on Sundays he either reasons or respectfully disagrees.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:09pm On May 30, 2021
budaatum:


We don't call people names on Sunday, Basilico. We agreed, remember?

Its a Sunday. No name calling

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 6:09pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


Thanks for that. When it did become safe for human use?
After elections Pfizer made a loud announcement.
Good. You are now siding with science and not some conspiracy theories.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:09pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


Its a Sunday. No name calling

Thank you Sir.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 6:11pm On May 30, 2021
budaatum:


Please don't.

Sunday Basilico is not the same as the during the week basilico, so he must be treated with regard and respect on Sundays please, because on Sundays he either reasons or respectfully disagrees.
Good to hear that.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:12pm On May 30, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:

Good. You are now siding with science and not some conspiracy theories.

Lets just say that the truth can only be hidden for a specific duration.
We shall know a lot hopefully in the near future because all these matters covid elections politics etc are intertwined.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 6:19pm On May 30, 2021
GalaticHorde:
You're a special kind of unintelligent I swear grin show me how I disagreed? I started with ''and?'' Then I asked how it the excerpt you quoted supported any alternate theory or argument you might support and thirdly I enquired about what special type of fruitcake liked your comment, the excerpt which standalone obviously offered no arguments cheesy obviously you can read but you either have a comprehension challenge or you're duplicitous trying to frame an argument in which you have little to no locus standing in terms of you said this not that while hoping I don't notice you skirting around the topic itself like you did in the other conversation we had grin
Your argument now is no longer whether over the decades white Americans have been the main benefactors of social security as compared to black Americans but that I somehow disagreed with you and as such contradicted my argument grin
And you're the one who obviously didn't read the article or you would have seen where it was stated repeatedly that for the time frame of this study there hasn't been enough Hispanic data to work with as Hispanics are relatively recent generational migrants and when they qualified to contribute they usually have fewer sufficient years to pay into social security as such that at the time of retirement many don't qualify for it and the Hispanics born in America and currently working they are not old enough to start benefiting from it. And also, social security is for citizens, wetin consign migrants for the matter mbok ? undecided

Goofing with confidence! cheesy chai!

Lol, you got angry, someone liked it. I am not arguing with you. I just wanted to see if you read your own citation so I posted something from it and you wrote a book for me. You replied with the longest post as a reply I have ever seen.

The excerpt I quote does not support anything because I didn't not indicate if i agree or disagree with you. You have been wired to think that by default I would disagree with anything you Say. So I just posted the same argument you are presenting to someone that is not arguing with you and you wrote me a book.

Weldone.
Even after I replied, I still was not arguing you. My point was clear that you did not read or understand what you sent me. Else you would have recognized that was the argument you presented.

I never made any arguments. Don't tell me about what my argument is. I can do the same.

Your argument now is that pigs fly. How about that?

The last time we discuss about race, you and budaatum ignore factual data and import false equivalence with biafra to explain your nonsense premises.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 6:52pm On May 30, 2021
To my UK friends. Ibime, Budaatum and co.
Congrats on BoJo's wedding.

The first Prime Minister to marry in office for nearly 200 years.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:02pm On May 30, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:
To my UK friends. Ibime, Budaatum and co.
Congrats on BoJo's wedding.

The first Prime Minister to marry in office for nearly 200 years.
Thanks.

Delightfully amusing that he married in secret and without the fanfare.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:03pm On May 30, 2021
budaatum:


That's what happens when you are telling the truth. You post it then find you are not the only one posting it.

Some interesting stuff on covid-19.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/amp/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html
Dailymail.

An explosive new study claims researchers found 'unique fingerprints' in COVID-19 samples that they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a laboratory
DailyMail.com exclusively obtained the new 22-page paper authored by British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen set to be published in the Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery
The study showed there's evidence to suggest Chinese scientists created the virus while working on a Gain of Function project in a Wuhan lab
Gain of Function research, which was temporarily outlawed in the US, involves altering naturally-occurring viruses to make them more infectious in order to study their potential effects on humans
According to the paper, Chinese scientists took a natural coronavirus 'backbone' found in Chinese cave bats and spliced onto it a new 'spike', turning it into the deadly and highly transmissible COVID-19
The researchers, who concluded that COVID-19 'has no credible natural ancestor', also believe scientists reverse-engineered versions of the virus to cover up their tracks
'We think that there have been retro-engineered viruses created,' Dalgleish told DailyMail.com. 'They've changed the virus, then tried to make out it was in a sequence years ago.'
The study also points to 'deliberate destruction, concealment or contamination of data' in Chinese labs and notes that 'scientists who wished to share their findings haven't been able to do so or have disappeared'
Until recently, most experts had staunchly denied the origins of the virus were anything other than a natural infection leaping from animals to humans
Earlier this week, Dr. Anthony Fauci defended US funding of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, saying the $600,000 grant was not approved for Gain of Function research
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 7:11pm On May 30, 2021
benalvino2:


Lol, you got angry, someone liked it. I am not arguing with you. I just wanted to see if you read your own citation so I posted something from it and you wrote a book for me. You replied with the longest post as a reply I have ever seen.
Angry? Nope cheesy more like surprised that some people will support rubbish even if it makes absolutely no sense just so they can own the libs which means logic and reason aren't their motives, emotions are. And I quoted one page from the article highlighting key facts to ease the reading for you, obviously that was an effort in futility as you still didn't read, funny thing is you were still projecting that failure of yours on me cool
The excerpt I quote does not support anything because I didn't not indicate if i agree or disagree with you. You have been wired to think that by default I would disagree with anything you Say. So I just posted the same argument you are presenting to someone that is not arguing with you and you wrote me a book.

Weldone.
I wrote you a book you say, I asked how your quote supports any Alernate Argument? You interpret it opposition to you by default, OK I agree, does that now mean you support the null argument? grin pick a side and end our confusion mbok


Even after I replied, I still was not arguing you. My point was clear that you did not read or understand what you sent me. Else you would have recognized that was the argument you presented.

I never made any arguments. Don't tell me about what my argument is. I can do the same.

Your argument now is that pigs fly. How about that?
obviously you did not read neither did you understand or you wouldn't have made an argument that smirks of ignorance claiming immigrants were not captured in the study as if they should ve been, Hispanics weren't also in as much detail as if the reason for that was not elaborated.
Oga you goofed big time and you were trying to project your ignorance of the details on me and no amount of artful dodging change can that! cheesy

The last time we discuss about race, you and budaatum ignore factual data and import false equivalence with biafra to explain your nonsense premises.

no you had no data of significance, all you had were postulations, when I said you divorced cause from effect you didn't disprove the proffered causes, I tagged you earlier to a post concerning why black people were refusing vaccination not only due to poverty but also due to historical antecedents concerning racial discrimination against blacks in the health industry you conveniently pretended to have been blind and not seen it as it goes against your claims that our earlier arguments that negative cross generational experiences have a negative effect on the black psyche one dunce who doesn't know his right from his left tried to use that to open a different thread to ridicule me and budaa until we shut the dunce down. Oga face the topic and tell me with a straight face how my arguments have been wrong so far

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:20pm On May 30, 2021
Watch this:

basilico:


Some interesting stuff on covid-19.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/amp/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html
Dailymail.

An explosive new study claims researchers found 'unique fingerprints' in COVID-19 samples that they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a laboratory
DailyMail.com exclusively obtained the new 22-page paper authored by British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen set to be published in the Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery
The study showed there's evidence to suggest Chinese scientists created the virus while working on a Gain of Function project in a Wuhan lab
Gain of Function research, which was temporarily outlawed in the US, involves altering naturally-occurring viruses to make them more infectious in order to study their potential effects on humans
According to the paper, Chinese scientists took a natural coronavirus 'backbone' found in Chinese cave bats and spliced onto it a new 'spike', turning it into the deadly and highly transmissible COVID-19
The researchers, who concluded that COVID-19 'has no credible natural ancestor', also believe scientists reverse-engineered versions of the virus to cover up their tracks
'We think that there have been retro-engineered viruses created,' Dalgleish told DailyMail.com. 'They've changed the virus, then tried to make out it was in a sequence years ago.'
The study also points to 'deliberate destruction, concealment or contamination of data' in Chinese labs and notes that 'scientists who wished to share their findings haven't been able to do so or have disappeared'
Until recently, most experts had staunchly denied the origins of the virus were anything other than a natural infection leaping from animals to humans
Earlier this week, Dr. Anthony Fauci defended US funding of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, saying the $600,000 grant was not approved for Gain of Function research

All those words I made bold will conspiracists ignore and some will even present the above as conclusive evidence that "COVID-19 WAS created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats" instead of the baseless evidence lacking claim that it really is!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:34pm On May 30, 2021
budaatum:
Watch this:



All those words I made bold will conspiracists ignore and some will even present the above as conclusive evidence that "COVID-19 WAS created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats" instead of the baseless evidence lacking claim that it really is!

Its an article about to be published in a scientific journal. Not that I believe it, but of late the consensus seems to be that the covid-19 had a lot to do with that Wuhan lab.
Read the article in full. Should be quite easy for researchers to disprove it .

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 8:03pm On May 30, 2021
GalaticHorde:

Angry? Nope cheesy more like surprised that some people will support rubbish even if it makes 1absolutely no sense just so they can own the libs which means logic and reason aren't their motives, emotions are. And I quoted one page from the article highlighting key facts to ease the reading for you, obviously that was an effort in futility as you still didn't read, funny thing is you were still projecting that failure of yours on me cool

I wrote you a book you say, I asked how your quote supports any Alernate Argument? You interpret it opposition to you by default, OK I agree, does that now mean you support the null argument? grin pick a side and end our confusion mbok


obviously you did not read neither did you understand or you wouldn't have made an argument that smirks of ignorance claiming immigrants were not captured in the study as if they should ve been, Hispanics weren't also in as much detail as if the reason for that was not elaborated.
Oga you goofed big time and you were trying to project your ignorance of the details on me and no amount of artful dodging change can that! cheesy

no you had no data of significance, all you had were postulations, when I said you divorced cause from effect you didn't disprove the proffered causes, I tagged you earlier to a post concerning why black people were refusing vaccination not only due to poverty but also due to historical antecedents concerning racial discrimination against blacks in the health industry you conveniently pretended to have been blind and not seen it as it goes against your claims that our earlier arguments that negative cross generational experiences have a negative effect on the black psyche one dunce who doesn't know his right from his left tried to use that to open a different thread to ridicule me and budaa until we shut the dunce down. Oga face the topic and tell me with a straight face how my arguments have been wrong so far

If likes and share mean so much to you I will like your post from now on. Don't worry. All this energy for likes. When PrideofLincoln1 starts his childish "I will feed your parents" and so on. People like salford and the other bunch will like it and I believe you like it too. I haven't seen you complain of those childish post getting likes. Don't worry I will help you with likes.

I didn't read because I am not ready to engage you on that. I don't really care. I just put one of the point the article make to see how you will treat it and you proved my point. If I say the sky is blue you will find a way to disagree with me.

I usually ask budaatum "what is your point" when he post something that has no point. I expected exactly that from you. Instead you wrote me a book because you think I am arguing with you.

You come here, make a claim for me then you attack the claim you make. PIGS Fly <= that is your claim and I won't attack it. I am not a troll.

I am not picking a side, the only one confused here is your because you presented an argument for your point of view, I presented same argument and you had no clue it was your argument.

Obviously I did not read? Of course I didn't. I gave you that on my last post that I was not arguing with you. Just to test if you understand your citation.

I didn't make any argument that immigrants are not captured. Around where I quoted the other time. I saw where they talked about immigrants are at disadvantage. Again you are showing your lack of understanding. If I say humans breath in oxygen you will argue with it at this point. Instinct grin

Err, you goofed he said. Okay in ya head I always goof. That's your Instinct, a default for you. I understand.

I didn't ignore anything. I can easily prove you wrong on this vaccination thing but I am not sure you tagged me on anything like that. If you did maybe I missed it. Most of my claims I have data to back it up. I have evidence to back it up.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Livelystone01: 8:03pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


Nothing will be found. How did you conclude this. What fo you base this on?
Dont misquote me by picking part of my sentence bro.
I am responsible for my comments, you are responsible for your understanding.

I said, "by the look of things..."

The GOP Arizona's members are mute, I believe if the opposite is the case as at today, they'd be shouting on top of their voices already.

And why push the answer to findings to Nov Dec if they can get what were parroting for 6months now?

Politicians will always get away with their schemes. Crooks propounded the theory of ballot harvesting and Chinese bamboo materials, but the foolishness of some of the GOP members never made them think through such lies.

Well, I am still waiting to get the answer from the audit of the century lol.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:24pm On May 30, 2021
basilico:


Its an article about to be published in a scientific journal. Not that I believe it, but of late the consensus seems to be that the covid-19 had a lot to do with that Wuhan lab.
Read the article in full. Should be quite easy for researchers to disprove it .

In what you yourself would normally refer to as the biased media lol. I will await an investigation before joining any consensus.

Has new evidence emerged?
Despite the Biden announcement and various stories in the US media claiming support is growing for the Wuhan lab leak theory, the answer is that surprisingly little has changed in terms of good quality evidence – at least in the public domain.

The most striking new claim in recent days, ahead of Biden’s announcement, was in the Wall Street Journal, which reported that US intelligence agencies were told that three unnamed staff at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) were sick enough to go hospital in November 2019 with symptoms that might have been coronavirus.

How reliable is the evidence?
The intelligence relating to the three staff at the WIV has been described as uncorroborated evidence from a foreign source, ie it was not obtained – or so far verified – by a US intelligence agency, and was initially looked at under the Trump administration.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/27/did-covid-come-from-a-wuhan-lab-what-we-know-so-far

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:17pm On May 30, 2021


Why are you guys still debating MAGAts


Nawa ooo those people cannot be reasoned with it is a waste of time.


Anyway let me go back to basking in the euphoria of Chelsea's victory. cool

We won the champions league


cool cool cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:21pm On May 30, 2021
Netanyahu will soon be ousted

cool cool

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