funny it seems but i knew all these while

Things turned out soar everyone suddenly realized that Niger mean "black".
In the 80s when the Naira was high above the dollars,countries were not willing to open embassies in Nigeria because no Nigerian was willing to travel abroad,no one bothered to find the mean of "Nigeria"
What an irony.

I have known this for a very long time. That nigeria means black area. The white man created nigeria, what do you expect? Nigeria is one the biggest shames of the black race. Any person that is well traveled and is honest with what he sees knows this.

Erroneous interpretation from the OP?

amor4ce:

I saw this at http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/spirituality-connect-your-center/464-ngr.html as published by Baba Ahmed and knew it would be relevant to us all.

Mods, is this topic more appropriate for the Politics (perhaps Tribalism) section?


[center]FROM NGR to ******[/center]
N-G-R, NIGER, NEGRO "******": THE N WORD FROM DIVINE TO RACIST

N-G-R, NETYR, NIGER, NEGRO, ******, *****; THE ORIGINS OF A SACRED WORD TO ITS DEFILEMENT

N-G-R, NETYR, NIGER, NEGRO, "******," *****, THE ORIGIN OF A SACRED WORD

"Thou shall not take the name of the Lord, thy God in vain," is one of the ten commandments, yet, the racist term "******" a derivative of the original name for God, "N-G-R"(pronounced "Net-ger" is continually used and taken to insult. The term "******" has its origins in the sacred and divine title for "God," and came from the Egyptian WORD FOR GOD. That word is "Net-yer" or "Net-ger" from which the English terms "nature" and "nurture" came from. The idea of God being nature and nature being God, comes from the African and Egyptian idea of what God is which shows down to the similarities in the terms used to describe aspects of the Godhead.

THE SACRED "N" IN THE AFRICAN AND AFRO-ASIATIC LANGUAGES

The letter "N" is one of the most important prefixes in the African, Afro-Asiatic, Indo-Negroid, Negro-Australoid, Melanesian, Australian Aborigine, Austric, Kong-San (Bushmanoid), Sudroid languages. In fact, the sacred "N" as in "Ni-han" (Rising Sun) OR "NG" as in "ChaNG," (ChaNGo in Manding-Congo), "Ndong" in Vietnamese (Ndongo (Angolan Kingdom) in African Manding-Congo languages) is also found in both Chinese and Japanese. In fact ancient Chinese, Vietnamese, South Indian, SriLankan, Melanesian, Australian Aboriginal and modern Japanese show strong similarities to Bantu (proto-historic Sahara, Niger-Congo), languages (see "African Presence Early Asia," by Ivan Van Sertima and Runoko Rashidi) See also the works of Clyde A. Winters also go to http://community.webtv.net/nubianem (HISTORY TIMELINE) and http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html

The letter "N" is also the word that denotes any title pertaining to human beings. In fact in Bantu or Niger-Congo and Cushic languages, the letter "N" is found as the first letter in many names. For example the name "Ndaba," = "counsil" while the name "Ndabaningi" is the first name of Africans in region thereof.

HOW THE WORD FOR GOD, "N-G-R" (Net-ger) became Niger, Negro and "******"

The ancient Egyptians called their Pharaohs "N-G-R" (Net-ger) because the Egyptian Pharaoh was seen as a representation of the sun and the Sun God. The original Pharaohs who were pure Black Africans SAW BLACK SKIN AS SACRED AND A DIRECT BLESSING FROM THE SUN GOD, ATEN. In fact Blackness and black skin became associated with God and the sun. BLACK PEOPLE WERE POWERFUL, CULTURALLY ADVANCED, MILITARILY SUPERIOR, BLACK/DARKBROWN IN COMPLEXION, STRONG STATURE, TALL AND DESCRIBED AS A "HANDSOME" RACE , (SEE HERODOTUS, "THE HISTORIES, DESCRIPTIONS OF "ETHIOPIANS" OF AFRICA AND SOUTH INDIA).

The recognition of the Pharaoh as a living God and the black skin as a blessing spread worldwide to other cultures. In fact the term "Net-ger" became the Ethiopian "Negus" or "Negashi."

In the Sudroid (Indo-Negroids of India) languages of India, which are part of the Cushite branch of the African languages, the term "Naga" denotes original or first.
In fact, in ancient India, the people with the blackest skins were respected and held to igh esteem, unlike today where the racist, colonialist and alien concept of "varna" or castecolor racism places Sudroids, Indo-Negroids, Black Tribals, Dalits, Negro-Australoids and other BLACKS AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF iNDIAN SOCIETY.
See www.dalitstan.org/books/sudroid

The term "Ngola" (Angola) means "King" in the Angolan languages. This term was mistaken by the Portugese to mean the DESCRIBE "Ndongo," the kingdom.

The first people to corrupt the term "N-G-R" were the Roman invaders of Egypt who may have heard the term used to describe the
leader of Egypt or Nubia. The term "Niger" was later used to mean any Black/Negroid person that the Romans saw in Africa or anywhere else.

The Romans tried to invade Nubia during the early years of the Christian Era. Then, Nubia-Kush was ruled by a line of Queens called "Ka'andak'es (Candace). One such queen and her son defeated the Roman army at Aswan, (see http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire ) Egypt and burned the Roman Fort.
AND CARRIED THE BRONZE HEAD OF ROMAN EMPEROR AGUSTUS TO THE CUSHITE (NUBIAN) CITY OF NAPATA.
The Romans colonized and spread the Latin language to Europe. Due to this linguistic influence, the Latin term "Niger" became "Negre" in French and "Negro" in Spanish.

The English colonialists and slave entity borrowed the term "Negro" from the Spanish. The term for Black people in England before Shakespeare was "Moor" or "Black-a-Moor." The English slave owners degraded and defiled the entire name by turning the Negro into a slave and turning the original term "Ned-ger" or "God" into the racist term "******." One can say that they have insulted the sacred name for "God" and have oppressed the original people created by God. This phenomena is due to their own sense of inferiority.


LIST OF NAMES FROM THE ORIGINAL TERM FOR "GOD" AND "NEGRO/BLACK"

N-G-R (net-ger) Ancient Egyptian for God

Net-tyr (Net-ger) Khemitic/ancient Egyptian = God, Sacred, Nature

Net-tyr (Net-ger)

Negus (Nee-goos) Ethiopian term for "Emperor."

Negashi (Nee-gah-shee) Ethiopian term for "Emperor or King."

Niger: Roman/Latin term for Black or Negro

Negre: French for Negro or Black

Negro: Spanish for Black

"******" racist, corrupted term used to insult, degrade, enfuriate.

*****: (pronounced "nig-gah), used as a term of endearment by some youth; rejected by others as sounding too close to the racist term "******."

Netzer (as in Nazerine) Hebrew for "root, original)

Naga (South Indian and African term) (Black Negro tribes of India and Africa - Sudan to Nigeria) = original

Nagaloka - The Black Negro, Negro-Australoid, Indo-Negroid/Sudroid
lands and people in Asia (India to Indonesia)
(see more from the book, "Nagaloka,' by M. Gopinath (Dalit Sahitya Akademy, Bangalore, India) also see "A History of Racism and Terrorism, and Overcoming," at www.xlibris.com

Ndaba (Manding-Congo/South Africa) = A counsil of wise people, kings, chiefs, ect.

Ngola (Manding-Congo) = "King/Lord"

Nkosi = God (Zulu, South Africa)

Ngosi = blessing (Ibo, Nigeria)

Nyamekye = God's Gift (Akan, Ghana)

Nile (Egypt, Sacred River)

Niger (West Africa; Sacred River)

Niger (country in West Africa)

Nigeria (country in West Africa)

Nugarmatta: Term used by Africans of Ghana Empire to call themselves (see writings of Ibn Buttata -- National Geographic Magazine



So this is the true story and origins of the "N" word.
NEVER FORGET THAT THE WORD "******" CAME FROM THE KHEMITE/EGYPTIAN TERM FOR "GOD" AND AND THAT WORD IS "N-G-R" OR "NET-GER."

iN CONCLUSION, IT IS TIME THAT NEGROES, PAN-NEGROES (PAN-AFRICANS, MELANESIAN NEGROIDS, INDO-NEGROIDS, NEGRO-AUSTRALOIDS) AND BLACKS WORLDWIDE START BELIEVING THAT THE NEGRO IS OF THE GODHEAD AND SHOULD START BELIEVING IT, HAVING SELF-CONFIDENCE, BELIEF IN SELF AND IN ABILITY.

IT IS TIME TO REVIVE AND RETURN TO BLACK/NEGRO RELIGIONS THAT HELP DEVELOP THE MIND, BODY, SOUL, SPIRIT AND THE BELIEF IN SELF, RATHER THAN IN ANOTHER PEOPLE'S SHRINES, HOLY BOOKS, HOLY LANDS AND GODS OR IN RELIGIONS THAT PREACH OF BLACKS BEING "CURSED" OR PREACH "BROTHERHOOD" ON ONE SIDE OF THEIR FACES WHILE COMMITTING ETHNIC CLEANSING, SANCTIFIED RACISM AND GENOCIDE ON BLACKS.

It was taken from this thread.

This thread is becoming ridiculous, last time I checked I saw that Nigeria is actually populated by black people, so what is all the whining about?

Focus on sorting-out your affairs in a logical manner instead of looking for ridiculous excuses for failure.

Regardless of what the name means, it shows a complete lack of self-worth that we have been unable to take up an indegenious name in our more than half a century of existence. A name that actually means something to us, something with history, warmth and such cultural backing that we can feel a glow each time it is mentioned.

Living under the name, Nigeria is the same as a Nigerian naming his child "Phillip" or "Zachariah" and thinking nothing is wrong. By giving that child a foreign name, you have planted a seed in its psyche that foreign is better; in other words, you have conjured shortcomings on your own kid and projected them unto the World as a mere counterfeit; struggling to be the "better" white man or Arab. Always a shadow of the real thing and always lacking substance.
White people live here all their lives, but I have never ever met a white Biodun or Igho or Izu. I have met many whites who are happy to recite how they grew up in Enugu, Kano or Lagos; one was even desperate to speak Hausa, but without fail, they are all called names like John, Tim, Shawn etc.

Inferiority complex shows in a name, sometimes that is not the case, but most times it is.
In the case of the Name, Nigeria it definitely is a national case of inferiority showing through, as such the name is a symptom of a deeper malaise (as someone pointed out earlier). It is the reason we cannot manufacture a pin in the country, because we believe we are inately incapable. It is also the same reason we see goods made in Aba and instead of glowing pride in the achievements of our own, we feel a sort of shame and hurry off to buy the one from "Germany," even in cases where the Aba one is better.

The name has no meaning or concept, either physically, psychologically or spiritually to the citizen. Indeed, it is as much a mere word as the country, Nigeria is a mere piece of land on which we happen to exist. No meaning, no attachment, no culture.
Is it a surprise that a country that can live like that is highly unsucssessful? Somebody show me a developed country that is bearing a meaningless foreign name. You will find exactly NONE.

You are your name.

;d ;d

Beaf, can you say confidently that you are not guilty of what you just posted? Many of our people feel proud when wearing foreign and foreign-influenced apparel like suits but feel ashamed of their indigenous clothes. Many parents even programme their kids for this inferiority complex by dressing them in these foreign apparel. i was at Unilag Women Society Nur/Pry school on Feb 14 and noticed that the kids were dressed in foreign clothes for their costume party day. When daughters are taught that beauty means fair skin, blue eyes, slim physique, high heels, blond hair, dressing like fairies and looking like barbie, and boys are taught that wearing suits and jeans is the way to go, isn't society guilty? What can we do to halt this ugly trend?

Let this country name Nigeria be change to Ijebu, i think things will change for better

'The name Nigeria was taken from the Niger River running through the country. This name was coined by Flora Shaw, the future wife of Baron Lugard, a British colonial administrator, in the late 19th century'

-So what are you people talking?

If if means dark area so what? Is it not dark ppl that inhabit the land
The white man that call himself white is actually red like a tomato.If somebody calls you a Niger just say thank You!

amor4ce:

Beaf, can you say confidently that you are not guilty of what you just posted? Many of our people feel proud when wearing foreign and foreign-influenced apparel like suits but feel ashamed of their indigenous clothes. Many parents even programme their kids for this inferiority complex by dressing them in these foreign apparel. i was at Unilag Women Society Nur/Pry school on Feb 14 and noticed that the kids were dressed in foreign clothes for their costume party day. When daughters are taught that beauty means fair skin, blue eyes, slim physique, high heels, blond hair, dressing like fairies and looking like barbie, and boys are taught that wearing suits and jeans is the way to go, isn't society guilty? What can we do to halt this ugly trend?

My sis, I am not guilty (except maybe in unconscious ways that might need an unbiased eye to point out).
However, I agree with the points you have raised about foreign clothing and fashion. On the surface, cloths and fashion are universal, it is even worse when these things are accompanied with false accents that neither the speaker nor his targets (surprise, surprise, even white people!) can understand.

There is nothing that paints the picture more graphically and nothing insulting than a "revolutionary brother" with a fake Jamaican accent. Jamaica is an island of under 3million people who look up to the mother continent for guidance and hope, they sing in patois and have direction; Nigeria on the other hand, is a country of 167million (56 Jamaica's approximately), like those looking up to us, we sing in patois too, because we feel inferior.

In areas like the judiciary with their wigs that pretend to be European hair, there is an even more serious problem. How can whose mien should be of imposing gravitas from the highly moral and just echelon of offices they represent come away looking so ridiculous (like barbie as you say)? There is nothing like a straight-haired black man, especially with such clownish hairstyles; such scenes project inferiority through our TV screens, newspapers, websites etc. We are assaulted with the stuff, so much so that many do not see it as a problem.

The most potent ways to cure the problem are to create standards bodies in our TV/radio/music/nollywood industries that will frown deeply at counterfeit "foreigners" and to include "Nigerianess" in the primary school curriculum. Let little kids learn national pride from an early age; there should be no references to demeaning crap like the Lander Brothers, Mungo Park and other imperialists who "discovered River Niger" and other places. Sound and proper education is key.
When we have the above in place, then we can begin to look at things like legal practitioners attire etc. And of course, we MUST change the name, Nigeria to something we can identify with.

Sorry for the long post.

Our name like that of most African Countries was coined from what explorers chose to give a given area.
Cameroun from shrimps; Benin frm Bright of Benin; Egypt from Greek and Latin and South Africa from its location. These Countries are orderly and boost of better infrastructures than us. Infact change of name has not brought a better deal to countries like Zimbabwe or Lesotho. Our bad attitude to truth, justice, self aggrandisement, tolerance , corruption and respect have dragged us to where we are.

Talking about change of name I suggest we do a ballot of the words "land of bliss and order" in all the langauges whichever is picked should be our name. The name, however, would only work if we change our atitude.

Beaf, congrats for your awareness. By the way I ain't no sis as I have a fully functional phallus. As for the judges they try to look like the Ancient of Days, whereas our people should be proud of their greying hair like Wole Soyinka whose hair is almost like that of the Ancient of Days - almost white and like wool.



Even many pastors seem to be the chief culprits of this oyinbo wanna-be attitude.

NovusHomo:

On second thought, I would rather keep NIGERIA out of respect for her unique place among black people in the world. Lets not forget that one in four of all blacks in the world is a[b] Nigerian[/b].

There are over a billion black people all over the world, do the math.

amor4ce:

Beaf, congrats for your awareness. By the way I ain't no sis as I have a fully functional phallus.

Gaddem!

amor4ce:

As for the judges they try to look like the Ancient of Days, whereas our people should be proud of their greying hair like Wole Soyinka whose hair is almost like that of the Ancient of Days - almost white and like wool.



Even many pastors seem to be the chief culprits of this oyinbo wanna-be attitude.

Agreed 100%, bruv. Lets keep multiplying, until the day we can change our nation.

Why do folks here keep saying that ''niger'' describes the skin colour of the people found within the area of Nigeria. Is our skin colour actually black? Take a look at your skin tone and tell me that it is black. Dumbos who swallow any name given to them by europeans.

If they were looking to name a country anything with Niger in it, why did they omit Senegal and Sudan who have much higher percentage of people with actual ''black'' skin tone?

You people better look for a befitting name for your country because your current one is a huge mockery that none of you seems to be able to grasp.

Bandit C., kindly read post #67.

I'm okay with the word Nigeria.

The best name to change to should be Biafra. This is because of what it represent.

Bandit C.:

Why do folks here keep saying that ''niger'' describes the skin colour of the people found within the area of Nigeria. Is our skin colour actually black? Take a look at your skin tone and tell me that it is black. Dumbos who swallow any name given to them by europeans.

If they were looking to name a country anything with Niger in it, why did they omit Senegal and Sudan who have much higher percentage of people with actual ''black'' skin tone?

You people better look for a befitting name for your country because your current one is a huge mockery that none of you seems to be able to grasp.

abeg SHRRRAAP wetin concern you.
You must be from oneof those african countries who feel thret, d by nigeria. You are the real Morooooon.

For a hilarious write-up about how the name Nigeria came into being, see: http://chikaforafrica.com/2011/09/15/i-am-proud-of-naija-2/

Nigeria is a beautiful name. If the people of Niger Republic are not complaining, what is our own problem? Your name is not your problem, it is your attitude.

Look at the River Niger, have we made any meaningful use of it ? Yet, some of us have the nerve to whine about the name when it reminds us that we have this great river at our disposal everyday.

People like Beaf want to kill the Nigerian spirit for their own selfish ends. Change the name of your state first if you are not a hypocrite.

@abdulkoro,your name is abdul, and you said u hate islam,i have not come to castigate you but i only want to tell you that God created u and also created islam as a religion and christianity,if u hate what God created then is left to you.

@maclatunji
[[tr]td]Nigeria is a beautiful name. If the people of Niger Republic are not complaining, what is our own problem? Your name is not your problem, it is your attitude.

Look at the River Niger, have we made any meaningful use of it ? Yet, some of us have the nerve to whine about the name when it reminds  us that we have this great river at our disposal everyday.[/td]
[size=14pt]you need to understand the historical factor behind the name and who bears it. The south shares it with the north.[/size][/tr]your background is the foundation of your life.
the north assume that name believing its their heritage. no matter their level if illiteracy that belief system will make them walk tall

simple analysis
the heir to the throne, however his level of illiteracy, he is a voice in his town, and  Acknowledged more than some profs
that kingship has become his heritage hence his attitude.

Let him know that his lineage is crushed hence no inheritance, i tell you his attitude will change.
that is the problem we need to address[td][/td][tr][/tr]

Let's just rename it to Biafra

Nigeria or Niger Area as you might call it
carry too much burden on it's head, so i
think all hands must be on deck to change
the damn name to something that can be attributed to light and not "darkness".

WHEN AN OFFICER SAID TO HIS SHAGGY BUDDY HELLO SWEETHEART HOW CAN I PLEASE YOU TONIGHT?  AND HIS SHAGGY BUDDY DEMANDED THAT SHE BE ALLOWED TO NAME THEIR NEW AREA OF BUSINESS, AND THE OFFICER ASKED WHAT NAME DO YOU HAVE IN MIND MY FLOWER? WITH ALOT OF TONGUE LICKING AND SUCKING THE GIRL SAID I LIKE TO NAME THIS AREA NIGGER/AREA, WOW DO YOU THINK THIS DOESNT SOUND QUESTIONABLE? SCREAMED THE OFFICER, AND THE GIRL SAID WELL THAT IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN BE PLEASED TONIGHT. THERE YOU HAVE IT A COUNTRY WAS MADE. SO PEOPLE LETS JUST GET A NAME FROM ONE OF THE MINORITIES BUT NOT THE KANURI PLS.

This is intentional fallacy ooo. Its not abt d name, its abt d people! Let's change our ways!

what is in a name?

@Afam4eva, so after listening to the balderdash spewing out of Femi-Fani Kayode's mouth on Channels TV you suddenly realized that the name Nigeria means Darkness. Black and Darkness are not the same nor synonyms. Tell your mentor to get back to class and relearn his "history". Our name relates to the beautiful river Niger that flows through our nation and should NEVER be changed. If he's tired of being a Nigerian, he should dust up his British passport and leave us to be Nigerians

If that is the truly the meaning of Nigeria then well the name fits that country perfectly.

Nigeria is nothing but darkness with no light surfacing at all.