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That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by uchkochi(m): 2:13pm On May 31, 2021 |
That witch supervising and hindering your progress must die today. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 2:48pm On May 31, 2021 |
uchkochi:And I guess Jesus Christ, the one who told you to love your enemies and pray for them(not against them) was foolish to command that of you? What the fk was He thinking, right? 2 Likes |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 4:54pm On May 31, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Did Jesus mention witches and wizards among the enemies to pray for ? 1 Like |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 5:45pm On May 31, 2021 |
enilove:I don't have witches and wizards as my enemies. Jesus Christ was quite clear and specific that the rule should apply to all those who you have as enemy to you. So since you choose to have witches and wizards as your enemies, that command is also for you to obey. 1 Like |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 7:13pm On May 31, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Since witches and wizards are not your enemies they must be your friends then. How was Jesus clear about the enemies to pray for ? Can you identity witches physically ? When you see one can you identify her by appearances ? How do you know your brothers do not belong to them ? My reason for asking those questions above is because Jesus was referring to an enemy you can identity . Witches and wizards belong to the devil who are used by principalities and powers of darkness against Christians and non members. Ephesians 6:11-12 KJV Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 7:51pm On May 31, 2021 |
enilove:You can try to break your enemies down into whatever groups and hierarchies that suits you, that, however, will not change the commandment given to all those who will be followers of Jesus Christ and that is that you love your enemies and pray for(not against) them. The devil, that you are afraid of, lives right there inside of your heart where sin comes from, and the power he has over you is the power you give to him - you basically hand over control over yourself to the devil- everytime you choose to live in disobedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. And according to Jesus Christ, the only way to defeat that devil, that enslaves you to sin, is to Know the Truth(the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ) and that way be set free by the Truth where knowing in the Truth implies submitting to and obeying it too - John 8 vs 31 - 41 1 Like |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by hupernikao: 7:53pm On May 31, 2021 |
enilove: It's good when we aren't dishonest with the scriptures. LOVE YOUR ENEMIES... Did Jesus mentioned witches and wizards? YES. Are witches and wizards not enemies too? At least from your explanation and the OP, it's clear they are enemies. An enemy is someone who opposes you, seek your destruction or hate you. Now Jesus said. Love your enemies, bless them that curse you. That witch or wizard is human being. Jesus called him your neighbor. You were told to love your neighbor as your self. Matt 5:43 This is the finality of all the scriptures of the prophets and the apostles. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 2:40am On Jun 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You are digressing . To live in sin is to belong to the devil , this we know and that is not our contention here . Witchcraft is idolatry. Witchcraft is the works of the devils through human agents. You can't know them unless the Lord reveals them to you. There is grace for any witch that hears the words of the gospel and repents . But for the ones who are obedient to Satan and would not repent , you don't pray for them . You pray against them like Paul : Acts 13:6-12 KJV And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar-jesus: [7] Which was with the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear the word of God. [8] But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. [9] Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, [10] And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? [11] And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. [12] Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 3:06am On Jun 01, 2021 |
hupernikao: How can you identity a witch ? Those people that hate you can be identified but a witch you can't know. There are two categories of enemies / adversaries . Human beings and spiritual enemies who are working for the devil. For the human enemy : Matthew 5:25 KJV Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. The above is an enemy which you can pray for and live peacefully with . For the spiritual enemies : 1 Peter 5:8 KJV Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: For this kind of enemies , you have to pray against them.Or can you pray for the devil ? Is the devil not your enemy ? |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 3:33am On Jun 01, 2021 |
enilove:Interesting stance you take there!. So, basically what you are saying is you do not agree with with Jesus Christ on this I can only speak of what the Law of God commands,even in this. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Goshen360(m): 4:20am On Jun 01, 2021 |
These folks always wanting to kill witches and so called wizards does not have the gospel. They only come here to say whatever their G.O teaches just look for one Bible verse to back up their traditions of men that's been handed to them. By their traditions of men, they make the word of God non effective. Since you've been praying for witches and wizards to die, how many have you seen physically die? Don't tell me it's spiritual death now ooo. How many witches and wizards did the richest and most successful men in the prayed that they die? Only in Africa we keep believing nonsense of witches and wizards doing you....nobody doing you na we dey do ourselves. 1 Like |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 7:16am On Jun 01, 2021 |
Suffer not the witch to live. Every witch on assignment to oppress or torment me, receive the consuming fire of God in Jesus name. Amen. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 9:57am On Jun 01, 2021 |
Goshen360: What has riches got to do with praying against wickedness of the devils ? The richest man can be a wizard working for the devil and dedicated to the devil. For your information , witchcraft is not limited to only Africa as you claimed . It is a universally acknowledged activities of the devil. It is not Africans that wrote the Bible and instructed witches to be killed . Are there no witches and wizards in America? It is the oldest religion set up by the devil after the fall of Adam and Eve. Exodus 22:18-19 KJV Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. [19] Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 10:00am On Jun 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Is this not the Law of God again ? Exodus 22:18 KJV Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by hupernikao: 12:47pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
enilove: You arent reading what the Apostle wrote. You quoted two scriptures but you are giving it your own interpretation. I have asked you earlier, who is the enemy? But you are doing analysis. Jesus didnt do analysis. he said Pray for your enemy. Either witches/wizard, known or unknown. So far it is a human, you have no instruction to curse then. Dont change bible narrative to suit what you desire. 1 Peter 5:8 KJV you quoted, was referring to the DEVIL, not a human or witches. You are giving your own interpretation yet couldnt still read the verses that follows to get Peter's explanation. The [b]devil (diabolos) [/b]is the only adversary of a believer. Your perceived human enemy are just your own making. Will you rather want a witch to die in sin, or pray for God's saving power to cause a change? The only reason a man will pray against a perceived enemy are due to selfishness, self centeredness of believing his progress, his destiny is hindered by such enemy. A man in the will of God, who desire what God desire, and believe salvation for all, will see beyond selfishness and self achievement to save and deliver. I truly wonder, how one called Christian can have curses and hatred and destruction in him and yet claim to be perfect as his Father. God's perfection is in his demonstration of love to his opposers and his accusers. Think on that and you will walk the Christ way. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Image123(m): 12:57pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
uchkochi: Can a witch repent? Can you cast out devils? Think outside the box you put yourself. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by hupernikao: 1:15pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
CharisEleos: Dont be deceived, the name of the Lord is a saving name, not a name that destroy. It was given to save and restore man to God. Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” His name is deliverance, salvation, healing, forgiveness and grace. No hate, destruction, killing, murdering in his name. This is what the Bible showed us, this is what our heavenly father showed us. Therefore, If you are yearning to curse, you can find another name to do so, and dont allow the devil use you to execute his will (murder, killing) on earth and yet you will claim its Jesus name. This is what you are already doing. I lie not... That you will end up feeling ashamed and sad, on that great day, when you meet the Lord, your Savior at last, and he showed you those he came to die for on earth, that you yet cooperated with the devil to send to hell. I hope you will be so proud to meet your life giving Lord with your death giving tongues of fire. For you will be amazed how much you have yielded to the devil on earth to destroy and send to eternal damnation those who Christ suffered and died for. No greater loss for you (1 Cor 3:15), than to face your Lord in your shameful killer's robe stained with the blood of men Christ died for. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
hupernikao: So what do you have to say about the Bible passage that says "At the mention of the name of Jesus, every kneel shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Lord".? Also what do you have to say about 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled. The name of Jesus is a saving name for only those who are willing to repent and accept Him as Lord and savior. Not for some witches that are sold out to the devil. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by hupernikao: 1:27pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
enilove: I thought you said the witches cannot be identified, you are only throwing arrows all around. Just ensure you watch the head of people going to their own daily work to find what to eat. Moses, spoke about people known not abstract being, people that can be identified and they are magicians, fortune tellers, known. Yet, Samuel said to you that your action now is as that of a witchcraft. 1 Samuel 15:23 23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Rebellion, a bitter person, one in disobedient to God's word. Your continual rejection and refusal to take God's word as it is, is witchcraft to Moses, and rebellion to Samuel. Both may likely not spare you in their prime. Matt 5:44 44 But I say: Love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! ... 45 In that way you will be acting as true sons of your Father in heaven.... This is how to be 48 But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 1:28pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
enilove:God made it more than clear to whom that Law, all 613 statutes of it, applies Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20. For you to, after all that you have been told, choose to continue following the Old Covenant Law of Moses, ignoring God's own Word, means you don't agree with Jesus Christ at all and there is not much left. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by hupernikao: 2:01pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
CharisEleos: My Brother, none of the above text referred to destroying people. No where in the scriptures has Christ name be used for evil. Notice the central theme to Philippians 2 is Salvation. Christ submission to be the savior of the world. Philippians 2 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. To bow mean to be in submission and obedience. Observe vs 11 explained this, "tongues to confess", confess what? Jesus Christ is Lord It means that all of humanity will be subject top Christ authority. The Lordship of Christ based on the work of the Cross. What is the work of the Cross? Salvation to all humanity. So what authorityis he saying vs 8 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. The authority of the Cross. That is the work of salvation. The same thing Luke wrote in Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” The only name man will bow to is the name of Jesus. This is not speaking about using his name to destroy. Ephes 1:20-22 says the same thing 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Set him in heavenly places, that is the place of authority. Above all that exist. Notice vs 22, put all things under his feet. That is subjection and submission. In summary, the name Jesus received, is the name- that will provide salvation to man. No name can do that again, because all are to be in subjection to his name. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by hupernikao: 2:02pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
CharisEleos: 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 is a different game entirely Always observe the central theme of a book, chapter and the context. The focus of Paul here was never any enemy but your mind. Your thinking. 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled. Observe closely. vs 4 pulling down of strongholds. Vs 4 is a summation of all he will say next in vs 5-6. He said we must pull down strongholds. So the next question is: WHAT STRONGHOLDS. Why will you assume it is someone or witches somewhere. Paul wasnt writing such. He listed the Strongholds in next verse. vs 5, 1. Casting down imaginations 2. every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge 3. bringing into captivity every thought Observe: imagination, knowledge, thoughts. All these are what happens in man's mind. Paul was speaking to you on how you must breakdown holding fortress in your mind that make you not to be fully in subjection to Christ's thought. It is the war of your mind, just as its happening now. vs 5 (NIV) 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension Human mind is the focus. When your mind is fully renewed (Rom 12:2), you will walk in perfect will and obedience of Christ. vs 6 6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled. Notice, YOUR OBEDIENCE. It said your own obedience. That means you are the one who is yet to walk in full disobedient not any enemy, why? Your mind, the arguments, imagination, thoughts that rises against God's word in your mind. That is what should be tackled. One of it is what we are discussing currently. Your mind is wrestling with the scriptures on why you cant use the name of Jesus for evil. But the scripture is clear and you have to accept it. So, the arguments, thoughts in your mind must be brought to obedience of Christ, submission to his word. That is how you will walk in full obedience. You must start praying for your mind to receive and comprehend God's word and to be subject to Christ thoughts and actions, not focusing on any enemy and where. This is how you will find yourself walking daily in God's will. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
[quote author=hupernikao post=102262365] My Brother, none of the above text referred to destroying people. I never talked about destroying people practice regular people as it were. Was refering to witches. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 2:20pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You mean old testament laws were given by Moses and not God ? I can remember you quoting Isaiah 58 before to support your claim on ''fasting'' on another thread here on nairaland . what can we say then about you ? |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 2:37pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
hupernikao: It is lack of spiritual understanding that makes you not to know the meaning of 1Peter 5:8 I gave to back up my points. I also explained to you that the witches and wizards are working for the devil who is our adversary but you still don't understand. Why did Paul not pray for Bar Jesus the sorcerer ? Second question is this can you identity a witch who is your enemy ? Why did Peter not pray for Ananias and his wife who did commit evil as great as that of witchcraft in the church ? Does that mean Peter had no love and the Holy Spirit that killed them is not Holy ? Acts 5:1-9 KJV But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, [2] And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. [3] But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? [4] Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. [5] And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. [6] And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him. [7] And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. [8] And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. [9] Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 2:51pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
enilove:Read Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Isaiah 58 is not a part of the Old Covenant Law. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 2:58pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You should go and read Deuteronomy 29:1 also. |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 4:08pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
enilove:What good would Deuteronomy 29 vs 1 do me when it is Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, that I live by? |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 10:00pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Did Jesus tell you to discard the book of Deuteronomy and others books in the old testament ? As a Christian , you must read everything whether it concerns you or not . It is the foundation of Christianity and must be studied . |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 10:04pm On Jun 01, 2021 |
enilove:again... Kobojunkie: |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Goshen360(m): 11:37am On Jun 02, 2021 |
enilove: Why don't you ALSO STONE YOUR CHILDREN TO DEATH WHENEVER THEY DON'T LISTEN TO YOU? Isn't that in the law of Moses too....many things in the law of Moses YOU DO today and YOU SHOULD BE STONED TO DEATH TOO....how about that? |
Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Aaronsrod: 12:05pm On Jun 02, 2021 |
CharisEleos: They shall burn! Thus saith our Lord, the God of Israel! 1 Like
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