nairalandankrah:
British people said they wanted to leave the EU, British government conducted a referendum and left EU without anyone being killed..

Igbo's say they want referendum to know if majority of Igbo's want to leave Nigeria,
Nigerian government started killing them..

Beancounter93:


1.The UK people could have a referendum because the EU's rules allow for it...and because the UK government passed the necessary laws for it.

2.Ibos can't have a referendum on secession because Nigeria's rules don't allow for it....either a referendum or a secession referendum (and don't bring up Southern and Northern cameroons...because both were UN trust territories run on behalf of the UN by the UK...and only got to join Nigeria and cameroon via a referendum...they were not even part of the 1914 amalgamation self)

And the only way you can get a referendum is by actively taking part in the political process and getting a law passed to get your referendum.

Because asking the Nigerian government to give you a referendum without an enabling law is basically asking for the Nigerian government to act like a dictatorship and do things sans due process.

It is that simple, and easy.

kponkedenge:
Africa doesn't know what a referendum is.... They only know one word.... Which is war.

If Nigeria is to divide, I really don't see it happening peacefully unfortunately.

Beancounter93:


1.The UK people could have a referendum because the EU's rules allow for it...and because the UK government passed the necessary laws for it.

2.Ibos can't have a referendum on secession because Nigeria's rules don't allow for it....either a referendum or a secession referendum (and don't bring up Southern and Northern cameroons...because both were UN trust territories run on behalf of the UN by the UK...and only got to join Nigeria and cameroon via a referendum...they were not even part of the 1914 amalgamation self)

And the only way you can get a referendum is by actively taking part in the political process and getting a law passed to get your referendum.

Because asking the Nigerian government to give you a referendum without an enabling law is basically asking for the Nigerian government to act like a dictatorship and do things sans due process.

It is that simple, and easy.

Beancounter93:


[s]1.The UK people could have a referendum because the EU's rules allow for it...and because the UK government passed the necessary laws for it.

2.Ibos can't have a referendum on secession because Nigeria's rules don't allow for it....either a referendum or a secession referendum (and don't bring up Southern and Northern cameroons...because both were UN trust territories run on behalf of the UN by the UK...and only got to join Nigeria and cameroon via a referendum...they were not even part of the 1914 amalgamation self)

And the only way you can get a referendum is by actively taking part in the political process and getting a law passed to get your referendum.

Because asking the Nigerian government to give you a referendum without an enabling law is basically asking for the Nigerian government to act like a dictatorship and do things sans due process.

It is that simple, and easy.[/s]

Mr Mugurudeen the fulani muslim, when you illiterate quota talk, you only decieve your m0r0nic likes.

British constitution is not even written or codified, if you argue otherwise can you show us the document that encompasses the British constitution and where 'referendum" is written therein? No need to waste time, you can't?

Yet the British have held several referendums for many centuries.

Anyway, nobody is begging for referendum anymore from the fulani animals and islamic bushmen from futa jallon. Everyone knows the language that you simian fulani apes speak--Violence. The indigenous tribes of this country that always seek to dominate will speak it to you very much soon.

The f00lanis have everything to lose in the next war they eagerly itch to fight, their grip on Illorin, and other emirates will be challenged in the next war that they have threatened everyone. It will be f00lani vs everyone else. YOU WILL LOSE LAS LAS

nairalandankrah:
British people said they wanted to leave the EU, British government conducted a referendum and left EU without anyone being killed..

Igbo's say they want referendum to know if majority of Igbo's want to leave Nigeria,
Nigerian government started killing them..

BKayy:

Are you listening to your self?
Which kind of education do you people receive in Nigeria?
FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION is a fundamental human right and Referendum is a way to determine it.
Nigeria never sat on referendum and abolished it (she can't). The fact that referendum is missing in Nigerian constitution shows how incomplete and backward it is.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Educated Illiterate

ictjobber:
To the brainless blacks, it is

BKayy:

Are you listening to your self?
Which kind of education do you people receive in Nigeria?
FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION is a fundamental human right and Referendum is a way to determine it.
Nigeria never sat on referendum and abolished it (she can't). The fact that referendum is missing in Nigerian constitution shows how incomplete and backward it is.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Educated Illiterate

rottennaija:


And removed the secessionist clause and referendum from the constitution? Igbos right? When they were in Power and thought they would rule forever?

Beancounter93:


1.The UK people could have a referendum because the EU's rules allow for it...and because the UK government passed the necessary laws for it.

2.Ibos can't have a referendum on secession because Nigeria's rules don't allow for it....either a referendum or a secession referendum (and don't bring up Southern and Northern cameroons...because both were UN trust territories run on behalf of the UN by the UK...and only got to join Nigeria and cameroon via a referendum...they were not even part of the 1914 amalgamation self)

And the only way you can get a referendum is by actively taking part in the political process and getting a law passed to get your referendum.

Because asking the Nigerian government to give you a referendum without an enabling law is basically asking for the Nigerian government to act like a dictatorship and do things sans due process.

It is that simple, and easy.

LordVoldermort:
I think the two comparisons are not good

First EU is not a country

Secondly Britain was originally not part of the EU they begged to join EU not the other way round, they were not part of the main EU system so they could leave if they wish...

As for Biafra, referendum is a good idea but the question here is, if biafra was established would they allow referendum to people wishing to leave Biafra? The answer is likely No

People talk differently when they are in different positions in life, Nigeria cannot give up her land to people who would never be willing to do the same.

Beancounter93:
Here is how the UK got their EU referendum...

1. The Conservatives made it a part of their campaign plan

2.As soon as they got into office, they passed the European Union Referendum Act 2015

3.The referendum held eventually.

Now for a Biafra referendum to hold

1.It has to be part of a party's manifesto (which it isn't for now...PDP and APC vageuly talk about restructuring whenever they are in the Opposition, but do nothing much about it...and anyway restructuring is not necessarily the same thing as secession)

2.A law has to be passed allowing for the referendum to hold

3.Eventually, the referendum holds.

Which is why I don't like our local secessionists. One would have xpected them to do more than hold huge rallies...instead they should form a party, sweep the votes in the South and Middle Belt...then show them Northern geng pepper well well.

Instead they hold rallies, post them to social media, and pretend that all is going well. Meanwhile, using the democratic process could have gotten them somewhere by now.

mrvitalis:

Scottish people got referendum too sir

mrvitalis:

Form party do that they can do to them what sowore is facing ?

Was it in south African constitution when apartide ended ?

mrvitalis:

Remind me again how we created mid west region

mrvitalis:

Scottish people got referendum too sir

rottennaija:


You deliberately have the story in reverse. Igbo has been talking of biafra and referendum ever since have known igbos. The killing never started until Nnamdi Kanu came into the scene, inciting his followers that without sacrifices, they cannot get what they wanted.

This was when he threatened to go to Abuja and bring Buhari's head, said buhari was mad, declared they will be no elections in any part of igbo lands, formed an ESN (fully armed men and women), started attacking states infrastructure and security architecture and started killing policemen and soldiers.

Without these activities, they would have been left alone. So don't tell the story in reverse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4jBToOT6TQ

Beancounter93:


That was formed under the provisions of the old first republic constitution, which is no longer in force since the 1966 coup.

So your question is irrelevant.

(Today if you want to form a state, you have to jump several hurdles to get there.)

mrvitalis:

But we are told zik removed referendum from the constitution ?

Beancounter93:


Funny you should mention arphateid, but it took several decades of political agitation...from the 1950's to the early 1990's before the poltical situation changed for a referendum to hold on ending arphateid...which was held on 17 march 1992.

And the reason why it took violent agitaiton was that blacks were locked out of the demcoratic process until the 17 march referendum quickened the process of removing that lock

As for Sowore...the problem with Nigerians is that most of us complain about PDP and APC every day, and at the end of the day we vote for PDP and APC. Many people also don't like Sowore either...and call him all sorts of names...because at one time or the other he may have attacked their favoured corrupt leader.

Sowore does not win because he does not have enough support. It is sad...but that's the honest truth. Same reason why many decent candidates like Moghalu, Durotoye etc don't win. Nigerians, for all their complaining , prefer the PDP and the APC.

LordVoldermort:

And Scotland is still part of the UK

Beancounter93:


1.The UK people could have a referendum because the EU's rules allow for it...and because the UK government passed the necessary laws for it.

2.Ibos can't have a referendum on secession because Nigeria's rules don't allow for it....either a referendum or a secession referendum (and don't bring up Southern and Northern cameroons...because both were UN trust territories run on behalf of the UN by the UK...and only got to join Nigeria and cameroon via a referendum...they were not even part of the 1914 amalgamation self)

And the only way you can get a referendum is by actively taking part in the political process and getting a law passed to get your referendum.

Because asking the Nigerian government to give you a referendum without an enabling law is basically asking for the Nigerian government to act like a dictatorship and do things sans due process.

It is that simple, and easy.

mrvitalis:

Sowore has been removed from his party