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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:57pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:57pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:These are strikers, were you expecting to see Kepa and Oblak there? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:01pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Hakimi had 18 G/A in 45 appearances last season as a Rwb. Not bad!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 4:05pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: I would gladly replace Werner with everybody on that list. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 4:17pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Premier League Player Stats Big Chances Missed Filter Rank Player Stat 1. Patrick Bamford. 21 2. Mohamed Salah. 19 2. Jamie Vardy. 19 2. Chris Wood. 19 5. Sadio Mané. 18 5. Timo Werner. 18 7. Che Adams. 17 7. Dominic Calvert-L. 17 9. Roberto Firmino. 13 9. Harry Kane. 13 9. Raheem Sterling. 13 9. Ollie Watkins. 13 Werner has always been a player that requires multiple chances to score goals |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:19pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10: How did Chelsea just win UCL? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 4:20pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:new agenda is to force james into a position that he isn't good at Removing more suitable players because academy must play We will play visionless kante along with blind mouse and expect haaland to score from terrible service, side pass brothers Haaland Timo havertz Chilwell Kante jorginho hakimi rudigar christenson Kounde Mendy |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 4:23pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Offside Rank Player Stat 1. Jamie Vardy. 36 2. Sadio Mané. 31 2. Ollie Watkins. 31 4. Marcus Rash. 27 4. Timo Werner. 27 6. Richarlison. 25 7. Chris Wood. 24 8. Callum Wilson 22 8. Wilfried Zaha. 22 10. Che Adams. 19 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 4:25pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:this just shows that our chance creation is very poor, people keep hyping mount that if we had a striker, mount will have 100 assists Reason this thing, timo missed 18 big chances and scored 6 Salah missed 19 and scored 22 Think about those figures and be honest to yourself, are we actually creating enough? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 4:25pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10: Kids!! , James was a DM? are you listening Havertz was expected to create more opportunities and chances as an Attacking midfielder he is, HE FAILED. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:37pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 4:48pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10: Pikin pay attention Havertz had 14 shots on target and Scored only 4 goals, he was expected to score at least 5 goals He was involved in 20 big chances and created 12 chances. He is far from the best player in Chelsea, even with 35aerial duels and 60tackles 0.47 of his passes created danger, even though 33% of his passes completed are into the opponents box. 18 key passes, with the expected amount of assists 2, but he had 3 assists meaning someone scored unexpectedly from his pass. The value of Havertz pass is 0.23 Now look at Mount that you despise, 46 key passes, about 13 expected assists, only 5, meaning someone was wasting his creativity. He was part of 17 goal scoring build ups. He scored 6goals with 30shots on target, he is a midfielder after all, he scored 2 less than he should but was part of 29 big chances. He shots from outside the box unlike Havertz and has a better shot conversion rate in general compared to Havertz. His passes create danger 0.51 and 46% of his passes are into the opponents box, his passes have a value of 0.71. He created 18 more chances than Havertz, 30 chances, winning merely 23 aerial duels but having 125tackles, and 2 more crucial blocks than Havertz and intercepting 51 passes more than Havertz, 93. He is among the best players in Chelsea this season But in your little minded world, you have you own less objective personal motivated one sided fan ass licking, noise making, and self opinionated view of Havertz. Chai Child!! this mumu don do you 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 4:59pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:like how you ignored the fact that mount had double the minutes havertz had and havertz was played out of position Packed nonsense stats that are incoherent and altered the garbage to suit your agenda then proceeds to call me names You are an ignorant dunce, value of havertz pass? Havertz 18G/A Mount 18G/A Havertz is a flop, mount is a genius, somehow i'm the one being sentimental here Chances created corner and freekick merchant dey 1st Quality of chance cheated, e no dey top 5 3 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 5:02pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
manure agrees personal terms for Sancho |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:03pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Werner was part of 39 big chances of which he was expected to score 13 goals but he scored only 6, even with his 29 shots on target. This is how the 18/23 missed big chances came about. Werner though had 17 key passes which brought about 8 assists, creating 15 chances for others. He helped defensively with 46tackles, 29 pass interception but his value to the team is lesser than Havertz. Looking at that Werner should have scored 13 goals, just 13 goals. The creativity in Chelsea was low or only one person doing it. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DumaEmpire(m): 5:06pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
donstan18:The player neva even come bt you don dey hate ham already
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:12pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
DumaEmpire:Hate? Not hating him, I’ve gone through his stats and he seems good. Discrediting players just to hype another irritates me. Same person that hyped Fraudvertz just to discredit Mount under lampard want to start discrediting James just to hype Hakimi that we are yet to sign. Isn’t that stupidity and foolishness? If we sign him now and he flops, you’ll expect people like me not to tag him fraud?? You will? Hype your player in peace. Discredit other players and watch people come for the fraud you are hyping. It’s as simple as that. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:16pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10:The fact Ziyech is also more valuable creatively last season I didn't wish to mention. Are you a doggy that wants to bark, "Havertz had less minutes than Ziyech" Just to show how confused you are, in fact if you studied amalionics theory of evaluation you would get F9 to the embrassment of your mentor. You mentioned how useless stats are but you still stated their stats. You are not just a dunce, you are dumber than dumb. SMH 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 5:27pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:never said that stats are useless, I said you were using pointless stats that are incoherent and doesn't paint any picture but an agenda Ziyech plays alot of good long balls, his chance quality is expected how many times will I remind you that havertz has been played out of position, from 8 to 7 to 9, my moniker specifically expresses his best position, explain why mount and havertz G/A are the same meanwhile one played more games than the other? I knew that you will push for more insults cause you have nothing sensible to put forward but an agenda I wouldn't give you the pleasure of proceeding further on that path, call me all the names you like Doesn't hide or change the truth about mount and his aimless presence in that team |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:33pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10: I always told everyone who cared to listen that James has regressed so badly. There is no need to be sentimental about these things. He should challenge Hakimi if he can |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:35pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 5:36pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
donstan18:Chelsea is my priority, if a better player that offers more is available, I will put them first, James stats have never been impressive, Tuchel saw James, stood next to him and still went ahead to chase a wingback James was already alienated from the team, it's because Hudson doesn't listen to instructions that gave way for James to get back into the starting line up When Hudson played as rwb, that wing was very productive, James passes back, lacks vision and is mediocre, if a better player than havertz is signed, I will support that player and fault havertz in comparison to the player 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:39pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10:More than half of Havertz game was played as an attacking midfielder. Tuchel uses a 3-4-3 meaning 2 AMs and a Forward, Havertz missed 6games due to injury and 5 he didn't even come on, and there were games he had to be thrown out from. Havertz played mostly has an AM, he also plays Forward as well, Havertz is a midfielder isn't he, so which 'off' position was he played in and for how long? Mount is a midfielder, not an attacker and the reason was stated in my previous post, go, read it again and study it well. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 5:40pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Ibime:Actually that guy was wishing that we didn’t win the CL because of Mount. What a joke of a fan You go think say Havertz Na him family member 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:40pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
macjireh:Again |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:40pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10:Rank these players Ziyech, Werner, Paulisic and Harvertz. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 5:43pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:if mount is a midfielder, why are you positioning him as an attacker in the team, when there are better players with talents suited for that position? 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 5:49pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
donstan18:only pulisic and ziyech are comparable Ziyech averaged 10 assists per season before he joined Chelsea, he was played out of position last season, I wouldn't condemn him yet Pulisic has always been mediocre with substitute stats but american market so no complains
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:52pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10:You had to avoid comparing them with Harvertz? Harvertz actually played the same positions with them, innit? Rank them together bruv, let’s everyone see how you rate players. Werner, Harvertz, Paulisic and Ziyech. Rank them. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:55pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
donstan18: Could you honestly tell me the difference between James under TT and Wan Bissaka? James' attacking threat has become non existent. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 5:55pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
Havertz10 dead the argument that Chelsea teams of early to mid 2000s weren't dominant, they were dominant that teams like Barca and Bayern always pray to avoid meeting them in UCL. Also dont say UCL dont have quality teams back then because this is not true, in Valencia they have David Villa, Silva, Albeda, Villareal you will mention Marcos Senna, Riquelme, Madrid you have them Figo, Zidane Raul, Hierro, Salgado, in Barca you have Ronaldinho, Deco, Guily, Eto'o, Inter you have Zlatan, Adriano, Crespo, in Milan you have Inzaghi, Kaka, Pirlo, Shevchenko, Gattuso, Cafu, Maldini, in Bayern you have Ballack, Ze Roberto, Lucio, Kahn, in Juventus, you have Nedved, Trezeguet, Cannavaro, Camoranesi, Zambrotta, in Roma you have Totti, in Lyon you have Juninho, John Carew. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:58pm On Jun 10, 2021 |
swiz123:James attacks better than AWB. Stronger and more agile than him, maybe not faster, James has pass accuracy more than him, crosses better than him, good at set piece more than him, attempts to shoot more than Awb does. When it comes to attacking prowess, James is far ahead of AWB. |
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