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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 3:04pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Ibime: You typed all these under the assumption that more funds means better players. There are other ways money can influence success on the pitch other than outrightly paying for players. Of course, even a fool would know that big players will prefer going to big teams with history. But look at this from this angle: better funding could improve a clubs training facilities, better managers, good scouts etc and most importantly, ability of a club to retain there best players against the big teams by offering good wages. Leciester City who struggled with relegation in the 2000s is now known for their good management where they scout excellently for talents. They have a league title to show for this. Everton afforded a royalty like Carlo Ancellotti who schooled Lampard when they met. Not necessarily because he had better players, but because he is better than Lampard. Man City came and provided intense competition too. They afforded better players, facilities and management. They effectively ended the dominance of the Top 4. They even trashed Ferguson 6:1 in an outter show of strength which all but confirmed the beginning of a new era. Tottenham also became more competitive. Though their progress was gradual but it was also noticeable... So, while quality of players in Man u, Arsenal and Chelsea have slightly degraded, it would also be an error not to notice the improvement in other teams. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 3:07pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
11611 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 3:10pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
I wuz ere. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 3:12pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Euros 2020. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:15pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
swiz123: Such is the nature of football. Clubs come and go and it's not due to money but good decision making. As Leicester and Spurs rise, so did Arsenal and Newcastle fall despite having money. The TV money does not afford clubs more coaches or scouts than before, they could always afford those, it's more the exchange of ideas and globalisation, not because clubs can now afford a scouts salary due to TV money. These are minor factors compared to the quality of players. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 3:16pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Allez Les Bleus! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 3:23pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
O shey! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 3:25pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Wikipedia v Live experience Old gods v new kings |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 3:44pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
La Furia Roja Let's do this again Boyz |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:51pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
airmark: This doesnt look like a world cup or CL If you want to see what a world cup looks like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:52pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
airmark: You are not known to be very bright nor sensible at anything that requires little thinking 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:54pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Mecka: Man uts between 2008 and 2013 made 3 CL finals How many did Man Utd of the 2000s make? They even didnt make it ot of their groups in 2005 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:54pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
popizaino: Chelsea didnt play this years Round of 16 with Silva and won both legs while he was jumping in the stands |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:55pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
popizaino: 2020/21 was with Silva mostly on the bench where he belongs |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:58pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
FBS:me think say na only copa you go watch where willy is involved |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:59pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Go and tell Messi that the 3rd most watched international soccer tournament is not major. Ode. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:00pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
monerozi5590: WHat does airmark know about football? You are just wasting your time trying to educate him Even the Chelsea he supports, he doesnt know much about them. He is one of those crowd at viewing center too short to see the TV and will just shout goal when they hear people screaming 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:01pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
airmark: So Silva cannot win the World cup like Boateng, he cannot win the CL on the field like Boateng He has to settle for a continental competition where everyone in the continent qualifies and they even have to invite fodder teams like Japan, Canada USA to make up numbers |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:02pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
donstan18: Money has ensured that PSG and City are dong way better than they used to do in Europe For example both made the CL finals which they never did before |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:07pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
pamcode: I disagree |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 4:08pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Ibime:you really can't see big picture issues or understand correlation and causation Where was the premier league before TV rights money? What was the percentage of foreign players in the league before the money came and what is it now? How about foreign managers? How about investments into clubs by foriegn investors The money made the premier league what it is today and over the years as they have made the sharing formula fairer, it has made most premier league teams more successful, they can take players from any continent and that made the competition more competitive Watch and educate yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MyodchL-c |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:09pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Will SIlva ever get to hold this in his lifetime?
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lusid: 4:14pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
monerozi5590:No. They were just not zealous enough. Barca spearheaded by ronaldinho overwhelmed them in 2005 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 4:15pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Who wins or makes finals in Euro 2021 will determine men's player of the year. Messi doesn't deserve any top three if he can't manage Copa finals. I hope Brazil with it though Now favorites for Euros 1. France, having won 2018 world cup and bringing back our boy Benzema, making finals should likely happen and players like Mbappe and Kante to make top three men's player of the year. 2. England, not making this Euros finals would be seen as a step back, after using a poorer england squad to make 2018 world cup semifinals. If England wins, hope those who don't like Mount don't commit suicide because chances of him making top three or top ten men's player of the year is stamped. He is the Kante of England. 3. Belgium, for what it's worth, this may be the only chance Hazard, KDB, Lukaku get to lifting a major trophy for Belgium, a finals could get KDB winning men's player of the year. 4. Germany, filled with exciting players and hope, much like Spain, but with better hope of actually achieving something in this tournament. Unlike Spain, if Germany makes the finals, players like Gundogan, Havertz, Werner could make top ten men's player of the year, especially Gundogan. 5. Portugal, they could win it, I won't just say they would pull a surprise like Netherlands, Croatia, or Italy. Portugal have star players that could make a difference and make top three or ten men's player of the year, Ronaldo and Fernandes. Ronaldo could do what Lewandoski could dream of doing this euros, but not write Poland off, Denmark have as much as they do. If I would write a number 6, it would be between Spain, Italy or Netherlands. This is England's best chance and season to win the Euros |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:18pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
raumdeuter:In comparison with those that were doing in 2000s? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:20pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
donstan18: In comparison to where City and PSG used to be |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 4:28pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
raumdeuter:let do a comparison then. 2000s - United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool. Now- Man city, Liverpool, Chelsea, United/Spurs. The United side of 2000s were the no 1 and certainly are better than the dominating Man city now. They dominated the league like no other and performed excelently in Europe. The chasing pack currently don't even stand a chance. Chelsea are arguably the second best team. A very solid team, might not blow away teams but we knew how to grind out results and our backline was arguably the best in the league. I would say we are greater than or equal to the man city team that is no 1 now. Over a decade, spoils would likely be shared equally if they were to be playing in this era. Arsenal team especially the early 2000s consisting of Henry, bergkamp, vieria, A.cole, Lehman. I would say they are less than or equal to this Man city team. If they played in the same era the titles would be hard fought. Liverpool would be stomped by both man city and Liverpool both, but will obliterate the chasing pack. First three of 2000s based on quality and performance ahead of the first two side. It a wrap. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 4:37pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
Why are we acting like it's all cool watching Tomori leave? I rate that niccur high, and believes he's better that Christensen. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:39pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
I've been in Man United thread close to an hour now lmao Airmark and Bikeman on another level of trolling. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:44pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
raumdeuter:How about winning the biggest trophy in club football with their money since money guarantee football success? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:54pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
pamcode: Man City >> Man Utd 2000s Liverpool = Chelsea 2000s Chelsea recent >> Arsenal 2000s United recent <<< Liverpool 2000s |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:56pm On Jun 11, 2021 |
donstan18:When Chelsea spent money in the 2000s did they win the biggest trophy? |
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