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With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by BluntCrazeMan: 6:19am On Jun 14, 2021
Remember.....
They are not Christians, neither are they m
Muslims, nor do they have any religion for that matter.
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Fahdiga1: 6:20am On Jun 14, 2021
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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by BluntCrazeMan: 6:22am On Jun 14, 2021
Fahdiga1:
None
If they were asked “Are you a Christian or a Muslim”, and they said “None of Them”, what would the Court-Clerk do next then??
Would heave them alone?
Or would he administer the oaths to him without any book?
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Nobody: 6:25am On Jun 14, 2021
The ones our Politicians have been swearing up and down with, nothing never happen to them

That swearing of a thing is useless just like Buhari

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by MANNABBQGRILLS: 6:25am On Jun 14, 2021
They will be here to answer you shortly.

Let's wait for them!

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by tillaman(m): 6:26am On Jun 14, 2021
They will sure with the constitution na
Atleast they believe in rules and reg

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by BluntCrazeMan: 6:28am On Jun 14, 2021
1000trillion:
The ones our Politicians have been swearing up and down with, nothing never happen to them

That swearing of a thing is useless just like Buhari
Let's forget the issue of politicians now.

Let's answer the question as direct as it is.
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Or rather, let me rephrase the question for you.
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What if an atheist wins an election??
With which Holy-Book would he/she be sworn in to office?

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by ChiefSosa(m): 6:44am On Jun 14, 2021
They make Affirmations. They're simply asked to swear to tell the truth in the law court. They seem to comply 'cause there's punishment for whoever lies in/to the court. People still lie even after swearing by the bible or any other religious form. So, the court will still have to use other means to confirm statements made by anyone taking the stand, with or without swearing by the bible. Some courts don't even care if you swear by the bible; they consider it illogical. Imagine how life would be if Judges believed everyone that swear or swore by the bible.

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by BluntCrazeMan: 7:00am On Jun 14, 2021
ChiefSosa:
They make Affirmations. They're simply asked to swear to tell the truth in the law court. They seem to comply 'cause there's punishment for whoever lies in/to the court. People still lie even after swearing by the bible or any other religious form. So, the court will still have to use other means to confirm statements made by anyone taking the stand, with or without swearing by the bible. Some courts don't even care if you swear by the bible; they consider it illogical. Imagine how life would be if Judges believed everyone that swear or swore by the bible.
If I understand you well, you're trying to say (in other words) that the swearing with Holy-Books is just for formalities sake, and that it is not necessarily needed in the true sense of court proceedings?

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by ChiefSosa(m): 7:59am On Jun 14, 2021
BluntCrazeMan:
If I understand you well, you're trying to say (in other words) that the swearing with Holy-Books is just for formalities sake, and that it is not necessarily needed in the true sense of court proceedings?
Firstly, we've all got the right to religion, that's basically our Sec. 38 of the constitution. But, in this case, we're being LOGICAL. Let's say you're a judge, and I was brought to you for killing several people. And now I'm facing life in prison or the death penalty. Then two people come to you: One with a bible that I'll swear with and the other with a CCTV footage of me committing the crime! You'll DEFINITELY go for the footage because that's what is LOGICAL; that's where the evidence is. Even if you ask me to swear by the Bible/Quran and I do, you'll still ask for the CCTV footage because that's what being LOGICAL is about. Remember: it's Logic over Emotions. I don't think any criminal will be locked up now if they all swear or swore by the Bible/Quran and the judge believed. So, to answer your question: YES, the holy books are not necessary. Swearing by the Bible/Quran is not constitutional, even in Nigeria.

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by LordReed(m): 8:35am On Jun 14, 2021
BluntCrazeMan:
If they were asked “Are you a Christian or a Muslim”, and they said “None of Them”, what would the Court-Clerk do next then??
Would heave them alone?
Or would he administer the oaths to him without any book?

Yeah the oath is ministered without any book.

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:41am On Jun 14, 2021
BluntCrazeMan:
Remember.....
They are not Christians, neither are they m
Muslims, nor do they have any religion for that matter.

They take an Oath of Affirmation! So they technical swear on The Law made by The Owner of this world (God) to say The Truth! grin
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:47am On Jun 14, 2021
ChiefSosa:
They make Affirmations. They're simply asked to swear to tell the truth in the law court. They seem to comply 'cause there's punishment for whoever lies in/to the court. People still lie even after swearing by the bible or any other religious form. So, the court will still have to use other means to confirm statements made by anyone taking the stand, with or without swearing by the bible. Some courts don't even care if you swear by the bible; they consider it illogical. Imagine how life would be if Judges believed everyone that swear or swore by the bible.

Because in Nigeria Lawyers do not Always prosecute Lying. But, I will prosecute, I do not tolerate it.
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:00am On Jun 14, 2021
ChiefSosa:

[b]Firstly, we've all got the right to religion, that's basically our Sec. 38 of the constitution. But, in this case, we're being LOGICAL. Let's say you're a judge, and I was brought to you for killing several people. And now I'm facing life in prison or the death penalty. Then two people came to you: One with a bible that I'll swear with and the other with a CCTV footage of me committing the crime! You'll DEFINITELY go for the footage because that's what is LOGICAL. That's where the Evidence is. Even if you ask me to swear by the Bible/Quran and I do, you'll still ask for the CCTV footage because that's what being LOGICAL is about.
Remember: it's Logic over Emotions. I don't think any criminal will be locked up now if they all swear or swore by the Bible/Quran and the judge believed. So, to answer your question:

You must be a student taking some law classes for Oath Taking and Making is not the same as CCTV footage Evidence and they are not related in any proceeding.

ChiefSosa:

YES, the holy books are not necessary. Swearing by the Bible/Quran is not constitutional, even in Nigeria.[/b]

Some lawyers will tell you that it is in the constitution, but I think The Law Prohibiting lying Anywhere and Everywhere covers all.
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:07am On Jun 14, 2021
BluntCrazeMan:
If I understand you well, you're trying to say (in other words) that the swearing with Holy-Books is just for formalities sake, and that it is not necessarily needed in the true sense of court proceedings?

Everyone has a duty to say the Truth in and out of Court but because lazy and unintelligent people do not want to work hard to catch Liars, they were hoping that the "Fears", whether God or Juju, would make people stay in line and speak the Truth.

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by BluntCrazeMan: 3:00pm On Jun 14, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Everyone has a duty to say the Truth in and out of Court but because lazy and unintelligent people do not want to work hard to catch Liars, they were hoping that the "Fears", whether God or Juju, would make people stay in line and speak the Truth.
You nailed it..
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And now, nobody fears anything.
Even the Juju too.
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So, they take the oaths, and still tell blatant white-lies
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:21pm On Jun 14, 2021
BluntCrazeMan:
You nailed it..
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And now, nobody fears anything.
Even the Juju too.
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So, they take the oaths, and still tell blatant white-lies

While they are able to do so outside Courts, however, in court they are aware Prison is just next door and it's very easy to enter it, hence witnesses do not stray too far from the Truth.

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by tk4rd: 6:36pm On Jun 14, 2021
Lalasticlala,
Seun
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by tk4rd: 6:38pm On Jun 14, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


While they are able to do so outside Courts, however, in court they are aware Prison is just next door and it's very easy to enter it, hence witnesses do not stray too far from the Truth.
They don't fear God, but they fear prison.
grin grin cheesy
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:49pm On Jun 14, 2021
tk4rd:
They don't fear God, but they fear prison.
grin grin cheesy

grin That is why God is God, for He is Indeed Very Good but Prison, is death and pain and sorrow and evil.
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Workch: 5:48am On Jun 15, 2021
We just swear anyways, knowing that it doesn’t work. grin
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Workch: 5:54am On Jun 15, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin That is why God is God, for He is Indeed Very Good but Prison, is death and pain and sorrow and evil.
God has killed more people than prison in history.
Prison is better than God
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:48am On Jun 15, 2021
Workch:
God has killed more people than prison in history.
Prison is better than God

Annoying Phones, cars and laptops are condemned to death for being useless and bad products same for the creation called man, so of course it is madness to compare that your car and phone can ever kill greater than you, the man, their creator, because they can kill.
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Workch: 7:34am On Jun 15, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Annoying Phones, cars and laptops are condemned to death for being useless and bad products same for the creation called man, so of course it is madness to compare that your car and phone can ever kill greater than you, the man, their creator, because they can kill.
God killed everyone in the world leaving less than 10 people. Phones and cars don’t do that.
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:12pm On Jun 15, 2021
Workch:
God killed everyone in the world leaving less than 10 people. Phones and cars don’t do that.

As I said, you will always kill more than the things you create can ever be able to do.

For that is what it means to be a Creator and the small places of creations.
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Workch: 1:05pm On Jun 15, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


As I said, you will always kill more than the things you create can ever be able to do.

For that is what it means to be a Creator and the small places of creations.
Theres no god
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:29pm On Jun 15, 2021
Workch:
Theres no god

grin See Drunken Driving, running across lanes left and right! You were the one who first said "God ..." even Twice did you Confess the Truth and Knowledge of God.

Now you say "there is no god". Are you not an insane person?

Well, you have the right to vomit!

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Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Workch: 1:32pm On Jun 15, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin See Drunken Driving, running across lanes left and right! You were the one who first said "God ..." even Twice did you Confess the Truth and Knowledge of God.

Now you say "there is no god". Are you not an insane person?

Well, you have the right to vomit!
I still do not see any evidence for God in your statement
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:35pm On Jun 15, 2021
Workch:
I still do not see any evidence for God in your statement

Your challenge here was not about the proof of God.
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by Workch: 3:31pm On Jun 15, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Your challenge here was not about the proof of God.
I just don’t see the evidence for god
Re: With Which Holy-Book Do Atheists Swear When Testifying In A Court? by BluntCrazeMan: 5:06pm On Jun 15, 2021
Workch:
Theres no god
I need to know what exactly you believe in, so that we can continue this discussion along a clearly defined direction..
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Answer This:
How exactly did the existence of this universe came to be?
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(At least, your reply can give me a clear direction of what type of soul I am dealing with here)

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