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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 11:38pm On Jun 13, 2021 |
jiday4: U ok? Wat ur own solu2i? I not the only one talking here . I propose genuine apology, from rotecch77 to bigtee, and both online now know what I have solution to their problems, what is your solution below look at what rotecch77 said to bigtee rotecch77: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rajput4real93: 11:49pm On Jun 13, 2021 |
BiigTee: I have contracted Rotech for a reconstruction work and i can say the following about him: 1. Rotech is an INVETERATE liar. He will breach documented agreements, even with a damning evidence 2. He is fond of using apprentice without supervision 3. Rotech will intentionally mislead you with a wrong advice, in order to lessen his work. It was when i threatened to call him out here that he refunded part of my money. I even reported him to two persons here Never mind how most people tend to portray themselves here. It's a different ball game outside here 20 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:57pm On Jun 13, 2021 |
rotecch77: sorry no go pay for the loses. how u go remedy the situation in Naira? 9 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babadots: 12:00am On Jun 14, 2021 |
rotecch77: @rotecch77 On a good day, I would just read this post and move on quietly, but I just felt the need to point out that we are all human and liable to make mistakes. Mistakes are pardonable, and should be when the actor is genuinely remorseful. You are a long standing member of this forum and a hitherto reputable one at that, but you did let yourself down on this particular issue. This reeks more of incompetence than it does of an error. You may have aggravated it by arguing that you take the number of blockwork courses as the basis for establishing the level of formwork on a building that was erected by some unknown 'barber' or 'tailor'. You should have established the planned upper floor level independently on taking over the project. To not do that is, at best, negligent, but to argue that this is standard professional practice is dubious. Ideally, your construction company should be insured against this kind of problem, but as we all know, nobody at this level purchases professional indemnity insurance. My proposal for resolution is that you privately approach @BiigTee and resolve the issue. You will have to offer some form of financial compensation, even if it is less than the N1m plus that your client has apparently spent in rectification. I am afraid, saying "sorry" a million times will not pacify your client. Please approach him and resolve it amicably. You have a name to protect and your team hasn't done your reputation any good on this occasion. Don't drag it in public. @BiigTee, I understand how you feel, but please don't curse him, this is a professional relationship and should be resolved professionally. Your most threatening problem at the moment is not @rotecch77's error. You actually need a certified engineer to review the adopted solution as suggested by @n3xt. You have added more load on a supposedly weak slab. That could be a problem for the future. I suggest you do not ignore that advice. Please respond to @rotecch77 when he approaches you and get an amicable resolution. God will replenish your loss. 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:03am On Jun 14, 2021 |
EgunMogaji2: Lol. People do not know that architects are the head in a construction projects. Every other person on that project is answerable to them. Well, this is the case in saner climes. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:10am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Dwanay: make una dey try do clean work. una no dey see as oyibo people dey tile their own spaces? Attention to details would take any artisan further than experience. 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 12:33am On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BiigTee: 1:50am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Rotech77 Arbo contractor! , we have seen ur apology but it doesn't change anything.. How much are u ready to refund from the 1.2m spent correcting ur mess? Words are Empty.. I have reached out to u for more than a week now hoping u would do the needful.. And even sent u the quotation of what was spent there.. You might think 1.2m is too big a sum to pay.. But know that I won't stop here until all ur clients and potential clients see what u have done... At the end of the day.. Let's see who the biggest loser is! rotecch77: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:51am On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BiigTee: 1:55am On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:31am On Jun 14, 2021 |
djsjxjfjdisjdjb: Don’t mind them. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:28am On Jun 14, 2021 |
babadots: Your points are very valid. 1. The client won’t need to engage a professional to handle the slab if he’s confident the team that raised the ground floor blockwork can do a good job. 2. Establishing levels prior to take over could have save the day. So I think rotecch77 should admit the error here and offer an amicable resolution. If the fix was recently applied as posited, it’s not too late to make amends. _________ I’m currently working on a project that requires different levels for all the 9 buildings we are constructing. Myself and client did all we can to ensure that we take care of all the guessworks on paper before moving to site. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hatesin: 4:59am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Homextras: I laugh whenever I see this word "professional" on this property section 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 5:29am On Jun 14, 2021 |
diordaves: Thanks a lot. I would take this great advice (insight) to heart & Sincerely work on it. By God's Grace. Na true Talk. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 5:30am On Jun 14, 2021 |
n3xt: True. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 5:35am On Jun 14, 2021 |
EgunMogaji2: ![]() Baba God bless you jare. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 5:45am On Jun 14, 2021 |
BiigTee: You are welcome sir Amen to your prayer for all of us, it will play out well in Jesus name |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 5:46am On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 5:52am On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 5:54am On Jun 14, 2021 |
n3xt: Thanks you brother We are into this game for some times now. As I said earlier and more info about the said building, looking at the building all last course. of the building are leveled you won’t notice diff of 5” slight bent of this building In sittingroom side area. ( pics attached above ) But the client said 9” which is not true This is what happened the new man he called take another floor level from side B with( well leveled area ) with thickness of 3” now coming gradually to slightly slope area with now end at 8-9” which simple means the slope is just 4-5” as I said earlier.at sittingroom area ( the 3” increases the level thickness to 8-9” as he quoted) I even told him that when its time to lay tiles this level can be corrected. But where I’m I going as I said I’m not a fan of too much talk. The Total money paid me for all my work on that site is N100,000 as supervisions payment ( other Payment N500,000 is for Labour ( Carpenter, plumbing, electrical, casting etc) With all the wahala with OMONILE treating us with us charm and gun. ( if see how they are performing that day you will pity us) But just to END all this I want to know how much he spent on the slope level ONLY Edit I have work on many building finishing with diff level slab and we corrected them mostly while laying tiles. Look at this building we handled for a client here at ajah area few years back. The initial person who did the ground floor and some other part of the building before we are called did a diff slab level and we corrected it while laying tiles (diff level of about 3-6” in diff area. 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:58am On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dwanay(m): 6:13am On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:36am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Dwanay: that place is not tody. look at the first pic. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by iammarvellux(m): 6:37am On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BashyBuilds: 6:37am On Jun 14, 2021 |
hslbroker2:Thanks for ur encouraging may lord be with you sir |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Amastermovic(m): 6:55am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Just for educational purpose only pls don't reference my view to d discussion, Well I have discussed vibration here few months , its a structural issue which the designer may have check for user of a structure are sensitive to vibration than others even though all structure vibrate but there's permissible allowance for this before u can feel it. If the person feeling this vibration is not comfortable with it the mind can never be at rest even if a structural engineer carry out all assessment and assure nothing is wrong. This will then call for some investigation by first viewing structural member how slender are they , checking the design and some construction pictures if available. Reinforcement etc Then if all this check and it conforms its now the engineer decision according to design philosophy to load the structure lightly because this one is heavily loaded except the new person prob your foundation to ascertain well .. To be cont'd 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:12am On Jun 14, 2021 |
n3xt: On one of your post you talked about the change in levels on different points on the slab decking. What could your reason for such and is it done on certain specific areas on the build? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nero2424: 7:14am On Jun 14, 2021 |
rotecch77: Rotech, try and engage qualified workers in your projects. You are the reason I don't like anyone telling me "am a professional" you will not get different results by doing same old same. If you don't have qualified hands at the time of accepting a job, it's better you don't even take the job. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Amastermovic(m): 7:22am On Jun 14, 2021 |
Amastermovic: This vibration does it come from foot load traffic and have u try to also observe the structure when heavy vehicle pass through your site road as well .. the new guy approach is quite expensive (assumption) because I dont know how the building is scheme it may be d best using mesh and addition thickness of 50mm to the slab couple with finishes of tiles chairs table bed etc etc will reduce d vibration . What I'm just trying to say is while dragging your contractor you may likely need to drag ur designer a little because d reason you paid 4 is rest of mind .. Contractor as well should have an in house person to quickly help them check the design before they commence with construction .. check should be carry out for as built structure before you proceed , some as built work can land u in problem big one. or you should have posted this for long maybe a easy fix will be suggested . . |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by UC92: 7:27am On Jun 14, 2021 |
To be candid, the variation in level isn't so much an issue, it easily can be corrected. The vibration of the slab is the major problem which ordinarily could have been tackled by intersecting 2 drop down beams at areas with large spans. Unfortunately it may not have been indicated in the design. The staircase in question doesn't look good too, I don't think the stair waist is sufficient enough to support it. If possible support with a column at the midpoint. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:45am On Jun 14, 2021 |
rotecch77: I knew what’s at play here and there’s no way I’d try to explain this without sounding insensitive to the issue at hand. Few weeks back, someone asked a question on my thread and I shared this post below. n3xt: Some people/contractor are so hungry that the only thing they’d be looking for on a project is the fault of other contractors and they’d make the issue look like heaven is going to crash if something is not done urgently. Also clients need to take my advice above serious when working with busy contractors to avoid being ripped off by unsuspecting and hungry contractors. _________ That aside, please kindly work with the client offline to find an amicable resolution and always ensure that critical stage of work are personally supervised by you (especially the concrete pour). I’m sure if you did you’d have spotted the issue during the concrete pour and put the clients mind at rest. The most important of this profession is supervision which must be done right. Delegation doesn’t offload accountability. Good morning and Happy New Week. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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