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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 8:10am On Jun 16, 2021
Emaprince:
Just look at benzema, mbappe and greizman in the line up, for what?
Grizzy was totally anonymous while benz was falling deep trying to build up play to justify mbappe

Giroud in this team would have made the difference. Atleast, either of grizzy or benz should have been dropped.
Giroud only got international friendly juice

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 8:21am On Jun 16, 2021
hensben:
What did he do with the 85 minutes.
After playing "rubbish" for 85mins, one would have thought Deschamps will bring on the "game changer", but no he decided to bring on a player who only scored 3 goals In a full season.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:45am On Jun 16, 2021
All this talk about Deschamps not subbing Giroud in...

France were defending a slim lead, Germany cranking up the pressure and with minutes left on the clock, it only made sense to bring in Tolisso to add steel and fresh legs to the midfield, and then bring in Dembele to add pace in the attack in the case of a counter.


If France were chasing the game, I'm 150% sure he would've brought Giroud on.

But yeah, agenda must agend.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:48am On Jun 16, 2021
MaziAlaye:

After playing "rubbish" for 85mins, one would have thought Deschamps will bring on the "game changer", but no he decided to bring on a player who only scored 3 goals In a full season.

Yeah cos it'd be pretty smart to bring in a 'game changer' when you're the one leading and coming under pressure, rather than reinforcing the midfield.

Very very smart.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:04am On Jun 16, 2021
We need a world class striker please.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:07am On Jun 16, 2021
MaziAlaye:

After playing "rubbish" for 85mins, one would have thought Deschamps will bring on the "game changer", but no he decided to bring on a player who only scored 3 goals In a full season.
You expect him to bring on giroud when they are leading and playing Germany of all country.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 9:16am On Jun 16, 2021
BlueMann:


Yeah cos it'd be pretty smart to bring in a 'game changer' when you're the one leading and coming under pressure, rather than reinforcing the midfield.

Very very smart.
Germany started controlling the whole game from late first half down to the final whistle, but Deschamps was so careless to leave benzema on the pitch to defend their lead for 85mins.
Continua

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 9:24am On Jun 16, 2021
hensben:
You expect him to bring on giroud when they are leading and playing Germany of all country.
Y'all talk like as if Germany started pressing them from 85mins.. Germany controlled the game throughout. Why didn't deschamps bring on Tolisso earlier on since it was to defend their lead

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:27am On Jun 16, 2021
MaziAlaye:

Y'all talk like as if Germany started pressing them from 85mins.. Germany controlled the game throughout. Why didn't deschamps bring on Tolisso earlier on since it was to defend their lead
Its not about pressing them from the beginning, the game is about to finish so it is wise to sub in a player and that player shouldn’t be a striker when you already leading and playing against Germany.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mecka: 9:31am On Jun 16, 2021
The coach knows better. Me personally, i would start benzema ahead of giroud because of his workrate on and off the ball. Giroud is a stationary forward unlike benzema who is dogged and hardworking

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 9:32am On Jun 16, 2021
Germany was pressing hard throughout the game and Deschamps wasn't comfortable with an own goal lead.. why didn't he bring on Giroud early 2nd half to help or were they defending their lead throughout?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:40am On Jun 16, 2021
post=102775706:

Germany started controlling the whole game from late first half down to the final whistle, but Deschamps was so careless to leave benzema on the pitch to defend their lead for 85mins.
Continua
said this yesterday and some people came after me because of agenda

Noticed that people here aren't opinionated, most are sheep that follow the flock, they can't think on their own, they follow established agenda and anybody with contrary opinion is foolish, dumb, doesn't have a good TV or isn't a Chelsea fan, typical nigerian behavior

I don't give a Bleep if my opinion doesn't sit well with you or your agenda, I will say it as it is with no sentiment attached, yesterday havertz had a bad game, could argue that there were things that hindered his performance, I could but I accepted it, unlike you that make excuses for mount, being wrong isn't a sign of weakness, it's a chance to learn and improve

whether you like what I say or not, everytime you stand against the truth, the stupid person isn't the person that is called stupid

it's the person that is wrong and thinks that they are right

When you eventually find out that you were wrong or sentimental, I don't need to call you stupid then, you will arrive at the conclusion on your own

Peace

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 9:52am On Jun 16, 2021
hensben:
Its not about pressing them from the beginning, the game is about to finish so it is wise to sub in a player and that player shouldn’t be a striker when you already leading and playing against Germany.
Deschamps would be so foolish to defend an own goal lead against a team like Germany... Why didn't he bring Giroud on around 50-60mins?
Because the last time he subbed him on for benzema it was around late first half and he went on to score two goals, why not deschamps do it this time? Or is Giroud reserved for friendlies and not big matches?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:17am On Jun 16, 2021
MaziAlaye:

Y'all talk like as if Germany started pressing them from 85mins.. Germany controlled the game throughout. Why didn't deschamps bring on Tolisso earlier on since it was to defend their lead

Na wa o. I don't know whether to say this issue is being overflogged.

You've said that Germany started controlling the game much earlier than the dying minutes. That is true. But perhaps that in itself partly explains why Benzema stayed in for as long as he did.

Germany's hold on the game kept getting stronger by the minute. But I don't think it truly became a one way traffic till the lattter stages of the game, when France became confined strictly to defense and counterattacks. Leaving Benzema on - up till the 60th minute as you keep mentioning - wasn't necessarily a bad decision, cos Germany's defence became more and more susceptible WHILE France still had a fair amount of control of the game. At that point, France were doing both attacking and counterattacking in fair measure. Bemzema can lead the attack when the team has possession, and he can contribute valuably on the break as well. What's more, Benzema's mobility advantage means he would contribute more to defense that Giroud would.

But when it became a strict case of attack vs defense, by then it made little sense to bring in Giroud. Instead, introducing Tolisso to add steel to the midfield and aid the defence was a smarter move, as was the later introduction of the pacy Dembele.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:20am On Jun 16, 2021
donstan18:
We need a world class striker please.

Jesus shocked
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:09am On Jun 16, 2021
hensben:
Mam u should give us pogba just the way we gave them Matic.

No. Pogba is a tournament player. He can only keep concentration in few games. We don't need Raiola headache
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:09am On Jun 16, 2021
TheHulk616:
Benzema had a poor game



If not for the dearth of quality strikers in world football, France wouldn't have recalled this bag of beans. Now 3 matches, no goal.

Even Dayokanu aka Raumdeuter knew Benzema has always been a useless striker, long time ago.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:18am On Jun 16, 2021
Mecka:
The coach knows better. Me personally, i would start benzema ahead of giroud because of his workrate on and off the ball. Giroud is a stationary forward unlike benzema who is dogged and hardworking

I agree with this, but we don't make the rules. We just follow the rules set by ApariSports

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 12:25pm On Jun 16, 2021
Havertz10:
said this yesterday and some people came after me because of agenda

Noticed that people here aren't opinionated, most are sheep that follow the flock, they can't think on their own, they follow established agenda and anybody with contrary opinion is foolish, dumb, doesn't have a good TV or isn't a Chelsea fan, typical nigerian behavior

I don't give a Bleep if my opinion doesn't sit well with you or your agenda, I will say it as it is with no sentiment attached, yesterday havertz had a bad game, could argue that there were things that hindered his performance, I could but I accepted it, unlike you that make excuses for mount, being wrong isn't a sign of weakness, it's a chance to learn and improve

whether you like what I say or not, everytime you stand against the truth, the stupid person isn't the person that is called stupid

it's the person that is wrong and thinks that they are right

When you eventually find out that you were wrong or sentimental, I don't need to call you stupid then, you will arrive at the conclusion on your own

Peace


All this just for just football, Omo grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 12:30pm On Jun 16, 2021
Havertz10:
said this yesterday and some people came after me because of agenda

Noticed that people here aren't opinionated, most are sheep that follow the flock, they can't think on their own, they follow established agenda and anybody with contrary opinion is foolish, dumb, doesn't have a good TV or isn't a Chelsea fan, typical nigerian behavior

I don't give a Bleep if my opinion doesn't sit well with you or your agenda, I will say it as it is with no sentiment attached, yesterday havertz had a bad game, could argue that there were things that hindered his performance, I could but I accepted it, unlike you that make excuses for mount, being wrong isn't a sign of weakness, it's a chance to learn and improve

whether you like what I say or not, everytime you stand against the truth, the stupid person isn't the person that is called stupid

it's the person that is wrong and thinks that they are right

When you eventually find out that you were wrong or sentimental, I don't need to call you stupid then, you will arrive at the conclusion on your own

Peace


grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:35pm On Jun 16, 2021
hensben:
What did he do with the 85 minutes.

Giroud was not even good enough to play 1 minute
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:37pm On Jun 16, 2021
timbros:


No reason will change the fact that Giroud on the bench recorded same number of shots on target with Benz who played 85mins more than him. No reason.

If Giroud was that good he would be on the field not with the ball boys
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by adisaaowala: 12:41pm On Jun 16, 2021
raumdeuter:


Giroud was not even good enough to play 1 minute

But the problem is that Benz' stats for 85 minutes isnt too different from Giroud that didnt play or how you see am? sad

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:44pm On Jun 16, 2021
adisaaowala:


But the problem is that Benz' stats for 85 minutes isnt too different from Giroud that didnt play or how you see am? sad

grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:45pm On Jun 16, 2021
Ibime:


I agree with this, but we don't make the rules. We just follow the rules set by ApariSports

The rules are good players show it on the field in key games not on the bench or in ballot boxes
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:47pm On Jun 16, 2021
adisaaowala:


But the problem is that Benz' stats for 85 minutes isnt too different from Giroud that didnt play or how you see am? sad

The coach would have subbed in Giroud if he was that good but he was just as useful as any fan in the stadium

No wonder the players dey yarn am as liability
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:47pm On Jun 16, 2021
airmark:




If not for the dearth of quality strikers in world football, France wouldn't have recalled this bag of beans. Now 3 matches, no goal.

Even Dayokanu aka Raumdeuter knew Benzema has always been a useless striker, long time ago.

Dearth of quality striker how?

What happened to Giroud and Belotti
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:49pm On Jun 16, 2021
BlueMann:


Na wa o. I don't know whether to say this issue is being overflogged.

You've said that Germany started controlling the game much earlier than the dying minutes. That is true. But perhaps that in itself partly explains why Benzema stayed in for as long as he did.

Germany's hold on the game kept getting stronger by the minute. But I don't think it truly became a one way traffic till the lattter stages of the game, when France became confined strictly to defense and counterattacks. Leaving Benzema on - up till the 60th minute as you keep mentioning - wasn't necessarily a bad decision, cos Germany's defence became more and more susceptible WHILE France still had a fair amount of control of the game. At that point, France were doing both attacking and counterattacking in fair measure. Bemzema can lead the attack when the team has possession, and he can contribute valuably on the break as well. What's more, Benzema's mobility advantage means he would contribute more to defense that Giroud would.

But when it became a strict case of attack vs defense, by then it made little sense to bring in Giroud. Instead, introducing Tolisso to add steel to the midfield and aid the defence was a smarter move, as was the later introduction of the pacy Dembele.



Summary of all this long essay is that Giroud was useless to the game plan which explains why he didn't play a single minute

Same thing we are all saying
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:50pm On Jun 16, 2021
hensben:
You expect him to bring on giroud when they are leading and playing Germany of all country.

But the coach brought in Dembele an attacker and forgot Giroud even dey the team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:52pm On Jun 16, 2021
raumdeuter:


Dearth of quality striker how?

What happened to Giroud and Belotti

Giroud - 1 match - 2 goals

Benzema - 3 matches - No goal, 1 Awoof PK missed.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:52pm On Jun 16, 2021
BlueMann:
All this talk about Deschamps not subbing Giroud in...

France were defending a slim lead, Germany cranking up the pressure and with minutes left on the clock, it only made sense to bring in Tolisso to add steel and fresh legs to the midfield, and then bring in Dembele to add pace in the attack in the case of a counter.


If France were chasing the game, I'm 150% sure he would've brought Giroud on.

But yeah, agenda must agend.

Why bring on Dembele and not Giroud?
France were defending a slim goal lead from around 30mins but overlooked Giroud

Is this because he only plays well in friendly games

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:52pm On Jun 16, 2021
raumdeuter:


But the coach brought in Dembele an attacker and forgot Giroud even dey the team
Its for tactical reason. Giroud is a CF while Dembele a winger. At that time CF is no longer needed.

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