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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:12pm On Jun 17, 2021
BlueAngel444:

Haaland is a world class striker, same as Timo Werner

Does his performance put him among top twenty in his position, yes
Does he perform in an international competition and excel in it, and gets recognized, yes


FFS Haaland is in UEFA squad of the season, He is currently a world class striker, he doesn't need a transfer fee or playing in a dead Barcelona team to prove that
You go just open Mouth Waaaaaaa dey cap!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:13pm On Jun 17, 2021
Almajirihunter:


Wetin this Hakimi done do sef undecided
Seria A

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:13pm On Jun 17, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Buffon at Parma was already listed as one of the best goalkeepers in the world before he moved to Juve, Haaland at RB Salzburg not even Dortmund yet was being listed among the best players in the world (though mostly due to his UCL goals), mbappe had already burst on to the scene in France and was being talked about when he broke Henry's record the season before the ligue 1 title, Messi at 19 was also regarded as a world beater even though Ronaldinho was still the main man Bro top clubs are the ultimum for almost every player like you said but if you are good, a visible shining light among your teammates and your performances are glearing You'll be regarded as such bro Even if you are the 30th best player in the world, Kane hasn't won a goddamn spoon with totenham so you'll now tell me he isn't world class too?
all these ones you're saying listed in the world at so so time was because they did one thing... THEY WERE CONSISTENT FOR MANY YEARS.AT TOP LEVEL.

Pato was also listed as one of the best in the world at a young age. Why no one will call him world class was because he wasn't consistent. Robinho too.
Even our Ayinde Marshall was rated next henry.
Anderson of man u too.

The difference between the list you gave and the one I gave is Consistency at top level. So many players had the hype and rating, but they didn't live up to the billing. Even Freddy Adu and gotze. Come on!!

Now I didn't say young age can't be world class, but I said the criteria is

1... You must be at a top club vying for major trophies
2... You must be CONSISTENT in 2 or more seasons at top level.

Mbappe first season at Monaco can't be termed a world class player, just because he won league and reached semi final.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:13pm On Jun 17, 2021
Jodera:
In football, you don't use just one season to grade a player world class. He shone at Monaco, but he didn't produce world class displays as normal world class players. He scored 15 goals in the league and 6 goals in UCL.
Now that's enviable for a teenager, but is that world class? No.
Even if he did score say 30goals each in both competition, will he still be world class? No. Reason is because he will need to produce similar performances in more seasons to come and at top competitions to be regarded as a world class player. Else he'll just be a one season wonder.

I believe elite player and world class players are two different things.
And yes, for you to become a world class player, you need to be playing in the biggest available competition (meaning you need to be at a top club) and also winning the biggest trophies available(tho not a must to win all, but if you win all it helps), while displaying top class performances consistently.

There's a reason nobody send immobile even as he won the golden boot above them messi and Ronaldo. And even if he does it again, nobody go still send am till he goes to a big club and replicate such achievement
How old do you think is immobile? Kane is a world class striker irrespective of the club he play for.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 5:14pm On Jun 17, 2021
Denmark balling hard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:14pm On Jun 17, 2021
Ibime:


Dani Alves was World Class at Sevilla. Check his FM 2006 sef.
To me, became a world class player under Pep.

World class players are made players consistently performing at top level. He became that under Pep.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 5:15pm On Jun 17, 2021
donstan18:

Seria A

If the media loves you then you’re made
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:15pm On Jun 17, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Chill Wetin

James and hakimi should not be on the same sentence abeg ,when James begin play top football ,because Chelsea win champions league you wan Dey disrespect some players
Because Hakimi is who undecided

It will shock you, that James who is one of the best EPL RB is better in more areas than Hakimi. Hakimi is faster which is good, but who tells you that James will not perform as good as Hakimi if put in Dortmund or inter Milan

Hakimi style of play is good, but is he better defensively NO, is he a better crosser, NO, will Hakimi endure the physical aspect of EPL or beat Sterling in a one on one, NO. Till he comes and shows he can do it among the best.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:15pm On Jun 17, 2021
Jodera:
Top/Elite player.
Its same thing bro. Elite, world class fall under same cetegory.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:16pm On Jun 17, 2021
donstan18:

You go just open Mouth Waaaaaaa dey cap!!
you are a certified concrete crown

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 5:17pm On Jun 17, 2021
donstan18:

To me, became a world class player under Pep.

World class players are made players consistently performing at top level. He became that under Pep.
End of story

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 5:17pm On Jun 17, 2021
Most of you are confusing world class talent into meaning world class player. Mbappe at Monaco displayed world class talent after his first season but he wasn't world class yet. Haaland is not even World class yet.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 5:17pm On Jun 17, 2021
Christian Eriksen get well soon Brother.

The Danish are totally dominating the Belgians here.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 5:17pm On Jun 17, 2021
Almajirihunter:


Wetin this Hakimi done do sef undecided

Though for real, he's very good. One of the best RWB/RBs in the world to me, especially going forward.

But to say he shouldn't be put in the same sentence as James is going too far.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:17pm On Jun 17, 2021
BlueAngel444:

Haaland is a world class striker, same as Timo Werner

Does his performance put him among top twenty in his position, yes
Does he perform in an international competition and excel in it, and gets recognized, yes


FFS Haaland is in UEFA squad of the season, He is currently a world class striker, he doesn't need a transfer fee or playing in a dead Barcelona team to prove that
Timo Werner?
Come on!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 5:18pm On Jun 17, 2021
BlueAngel444:

Because Hakimi is who undecided

It will shock you, that James who is one of the best EPL RB is better in more areas than Hakimi. Hakimi is faster which is good, but who tells you that James will not perform as good as Hakimi if put in Dortmund or inter Milan

Hakimi style of play is good, but is he better defensively NO, is he a better crosser, NO, will Hakimi endure the physical aspect of EPL or beat Sterling in a one on one, NO. Till he comes and shows he can do it among the best.

I expect una to defend Chelsea player for sure

No wahala Baba
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Actman05: 5:18pm On Jun 17, 2021
Goodluck Fik.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:18pm On Jun 17, 2021
Capaldi:
Most of you are confusing world class talent into meaning world class player. Mbappe at Monaco displayed world class talent after his first season but he wasn't world class yet. Haaland is not even World class yet.
Thank you boss

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 5:19pm On Jun 17, 2021
BlueAngel444:

Haaland is a world class striker, same as Timo Werner

Does his performance put him among top twenty in his position, yes
Does he perform in an international competition and excel in it, and gets recognized, yes


FFS Haaland is in UEFA squad of the season, He is currently a world class striker, he doesn't need a transfer fee or playing in a dead Barcelona team to prove that

Timo Werner world class ?

I didn’t make mistake when I said most of you will be sentimental when it comes to your player

Timo Werner world class cheesy cheesy cheesy

Nothing wey person no go hear for Chelsea fans mouth

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:19pm On Jun 17, 2021
hensben:
Its same thing bro. Elite, world class fall under same cetegory.
Top players and world class are too different things
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:20pm On Jun 17, 2021
BlueMann:


Oga chill Jare, which one is they shouldn't be in the same sentence?

Hakimi is better than James, leave am for there. He trumps James in offensive productivity but asides that, there isn't any other area where be completely best James. James even has the edge in a couple of areas.
He is better than James in this area, quick decision, explosiveness and positioning.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:20pm On Jun 17, 2021
hensben:
How old do you think is immobile? Kane is a world class striker irrespective of the club he play for.
I don't know why this question is relevant sha.
It doesn't matter the age.
It's consistency at top level for me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 5:21pm On Jun 17, 2021
Can’t understand this Tomori sale.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:22pm On Jun 17, 2021
Jodera:
In football, you don't use just one season to grade a player world class. He shone at Monaco, but he didn't produce world class displays as normal world class players. He scored 15 goals in the league and 6 goals in UCL.
Now that's enviable for a teenager, but is that world class? No.
Even if he did score say 30goals each in both competition, will he still be world class? No. Reason is because he will need to produce similar performances in more seasons to come and at top competitions to be regarded as a world class player. Else he'll just be a one season wonder.

I believe elite player and world class players are two different things.
And yes, for you to become a world class player, you need to be playing in the biggest available competition (meaning you need to be at a top club) and also winning the biggest trophies available(tho not a must to win all, but if you win all it helps), while displaying top class performances consistently.

There's a reason nobody send immobile even as he won the golden boot above them messi and Ronaldo. And even if he does it again, nobody go still send am till he goes to a big club and replicate such achievement

You are funny, so you think the year Pele brought into the national team and made them world cup champions he was not world class based on your reason above.

You think any one would say Gotze is world class, though at some point he was.

Is Coutinho world class?

Hazard maybe debatable because he managed to be called up to an international event, to me he is no longer a world class winger. No one would give him that recognition except he fights for it.


Class isn't made by transfer fee, age or past, it is made by exceptional performance. It can be maintained it can be lost. Ask Joe Hart
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:23pm On Jun 17, 2021
Kilishihunter:

He was already making waves in the UCL, Man United, Juventus and Dortmund were scrambling for his signature so if they thought he wouldn't make waves No one would make a move
Lol... Top clubs scrambling for a talents signature doesn't mean he's world class na.

Many players abound that top club were scrambling for siggy, yet they flopped after the move
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:23pm On Jun 17, 2021
Almajirihunter:


Benzema is a world class striker, forget talk.
You forgot Kane
Benzema is not world class but a very good striker.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Actman05: 5:24pm On Jun 17, 2021
BikeMan:
Can’t understand this Tomori sale.
Nothing we can do but to wish him the best.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 5:24pm On Jun 17, 2021
hensben:
Benzema is not world class but a very good striker.
Weed is bad cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 5:25pm On Jun 17, 2021
Benzema is not World class but Drogba was world class cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:25pm On Jun 17, 2021
Almajirihunter:


If the media loves you then you’re made
That’s why I’m scared of Halland idea, I’ll prefer Kane who has consistently proven himself.

Media hype of Halland is much, now imagine him coming to England where all attention will be on him, then imagine him coming to Chelsea who can only boast of 2 successful strikers in 15 years.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 5:27pm On Jun 17, 2021
Jodera:
all these ones you're saying listed in the world at so so time was because they did one thing... THEY WERE CONSISTENT FOR MANY YEARS.AT TOP LEVEL.

Pato was also listed as one of the best in the world at a young age. Why no one will call him world class was because he wasn't consistent. Robinho too.
Even our Ayinde Marshall was rated next henry.
Anderson of man u too.

The difference between the list you gave and the one I gave is Consistency at top level. So many players had the hype and rating, but they didn't live up to the billing. Even Freddy Adu and gotze. Come on!!

Now I didn't say young age can't be world class, but I said the criteria is

1... You must be at a top club vying for major trophies
2... You must be CONSISTENT in 2 or more seasons at top level.

Mbappe first season at Monaco can't be termed a world class player, just because he won league and reached semi final.

Bro see I'm not saying you are wrong at all, no matter how good you are your presence at the biggest clubs would elevate your status and level to the world Noted All I'm just saying is that you can still be a world beater at a lesser club and a younger age, if like you rightly said are consistent though no one knows the future too
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 5:27pm On Jun 17, 2021
BikeMan:
Can’t understand this Tomori sale.
not good enough

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