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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:30am On Jun 20, 2021
It’s not a coincidence that most football lovers and football governing body don’t rate bousq, Jorginho and rodri. Their type of DM is annoying. Pirlo and Alonso were special with the ball; free kick, long passes, accurate shots from outside the box and dictating the play perfectly from deep.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:31am On Jun 20, 2021
Liposure:
You can malign other players but not messi. Messi is a god and i'm not a barca fan
god of Eibar,levante and Girona. I will give you that.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:32am On Jun 20, 2021
https://twitter.com/ldnfootbali/status/1406557130333720577?s=21

I don’t think I’ve accepted an L in football like I did for Rudiger. Never liked this guy because of his costly mistakes, but man has improved and now a beast in the settings.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:40am On Jun 20, 2021
swiz123:


I know how you feel about Busquet; I even like him more than you, but dude has become so bad as a DM.

In his prime, it is Haram to compare him to Rodri and Jorginho. He is too intelligent, hardly ever dispossessed, always picks the right pass, incredible reading of the game to make timely interceptions.

But for some years now, he has become too slow and lacks stamina to cover grounds and control mildfield for 90 minutes. And this deficiency of his is being heightened by Barca's poor defence. A slow DM playing with this current Barca side is on a suicidal mission
.

Every Barcelona player is useless without the ball,a fact which has already been confirmed by the Goat himself pep Guardiola. So i blame every Barcelona manager that has managed him since pep Guardiola left the club with the exception of Tata Martino. All those other coaches really didnt play through the midfield like pep and Martino. Their tactics was just to get the ball to messi asap instead of that slowly build up that involves everyone on the pitch. The set up is generally wrong,the approach is faulty and that is why is the reason for those heavy scoreline defeat. Not a spineless DM as many of you will want us to believe.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:42am On Jun 20, 2021
Jodera:
Nobody is saying combative DM isn't good, but it's you guys that are belittling technical DMs. In fact, I don't remember anybody hyping technical DMs as you put it.

One thing I believe you know is that technical DMs are scarce and not readily available unlike combative DMs. Also technical DMs will always bench combative DM in a top attacking team cos they give calmness in most combative DMs don't

Depends on the manager.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:44am On Jun 20, 2021
Melvyn11:
Fact is all Barca players are overated from Messi (especially Messi) to Xavi etc Hyped more than their actually ability. I just saw Ibime Celebrating Xavi 90% pass completion when they are mostly sideways and 3 yard passes.
Messi, Xavi and Inesta aren’t overrated.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:45am On Jun 20, 2021
Jodera:
Now this is an unbiased and honest take on who busquet is.
Busquet might have drop of form due to age but saying prime busquet is overrated or prime busquet wouldn't make it in premier league is a big lie except he's playing in a lower team like Norwich and Burnley. That was how many thought that DMs ought to be like gatusso, makalele and the likes until the likes of busquets and carrick proved otherwise with their great reading of the games and interceptions. Mascherano, song and toure had to play cb cos of busquet cos they couldn't bring that calmness in DM as he brings yet people feel he is overrated.

Now that the likes of busquets and carrick calibre are going to extinction, they've reverted back to "you need runners and good DMs again like hojgberg and all". It's just dishonest to call busquet(one of the most intelligent DMs in the world during his prime) overrated

Cc: Popizaino


No way that you're an arsenal fan.
Come and support Chelsea. Forms are available for you and Patrick alone .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 11:53am On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
It’s not a coincidence that most football lovers and football governing body don’t rate bousq, Jorginho and rodri. Their type of DM is annoying. Pirlo and Alonso were special with the ball; free kick, long passes, accurate shots from outside the box and dictating the play perfectly from deep.
Bring out their defensive contribution as they are Dms and stop typing shalayes about free kicks,shoot from distance. Leave those for people like De bruyne, Pogboom. cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:57am On Jun 20, 2021
popizaino:


How does this gif of you proves to us that Busquet is actually spineless? Dribbling is a big risk,he took the risk and became unsuccessful with it when it can be argued that the ref was a bit harsh by not blowing a foul and you call it spineless? Maybe we should also post videos of messi's unsuccessful dribbles and call him spineless. Mind you,for every unsuccessful dribbles you want to show, there are also millions of the same dribbles in that delicate position which he got right.

Do you want me to post 100 gifs before you are convinced?

Which one is unsuccessful dribbles? Ogbeni sensible Barca fans that watched him in so many matches will tell you the truth about him even at his prime.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:59am On Jun 20, 2021
Melvyn11:
Fact is all Barca players are overated from Messi (especially Messi) to Xavi etc Hyped more than their actually ability. I just saw Ibime Celebrating Xavi 90% pass completion when they are mostly sideways and 3 yard passes.

Messi, Xavi and Dani Alves were the best in their positions in their era.

All the others were very good players though overrated into being the best in their position.

The only wack player was Victor Valdes. Busquets was wack (as a DM) but very good technically. As a CM, he would be very good. Iniesta was a very good player but could not compare to other AMs of his era.

There were some very underrated players in that team too who were solid as a rock and helped Barcelona when game went physical. I am talking Seydou Keita and Eric Abidal.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:59am On Jun 20, 2021
Trevor012:

Bring out their defensive contribution as they are Dms and stop typing shalayes about free kicks,shoot from distance. Leave those for people like De bruyne, Pogboom. cheesy grin cheesy
You bring out bousq defensive stat first. You must be a clown if you think bousq is defensively better than Alonso.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 12:00pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
It’s not a coincidence that most football lovers and football governing body don’t rate bousq, Jorginho and rodri. Their type of DM is annoying. Pirlo and Alonso were special with the ball; free kick, long passes, accurate shots from outside the box and dictating the play perfectly from deep.
Don't Let me catch you hype any dirty Xabi Alonso here ever again cheesy cheesy. Worst than Busquet, Jorginho and Rodri combined defensively cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:01pm On Jun 20, 2021
Amoto94:
Pau Torres look solid despite his frail stature in the games I watched him play. What do you think of him Unlimited22, Ibime, Havertz10
He's a good defender but I don't know if we will be able to get him although I'm worried about his stature. Christensen has the same problem
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 12:01pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
You bring out bousq defensive stat first. You must be a clown if you think bousq is defensively better than Alonso.
Keep shut grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:07pm On Jun 20, 2021
So nobody can tell me the year Busquets ceased to be in his prime, right?

Prime kill y'all there.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:08pm On Jun 20, 2021
Trevor012:

Keep shut grin
what year was this?. Show me bousq stat defensively you are showing me constructive criticism. Again if you think bousq is better than Alonso defensively you are a clown.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 12:11pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
what year was this?. Show me bousq stat defensively you are showing me constructive criticism. Again if you think bousq is better than Alonso defensively you are a clown.
Baba bring your own Busquet stats with your own hand that's not my business cheesy. As Long as Jorginho, Busquet and Rodri are useless as Dm's on this thread so was Pirlo and Xabi Alonso. Those two will be raped apart in these current football climate no doubt grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:17pm On Jun 20, 2021
airmark:
So nobody can tell me the year Busquets ceased to be in his prime, right?

Prime kill y'all there.
Nor mind them. Bousq and prime na myth.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:26pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Nor mind them. Bousq and prime na myth.

Maybe a 25/26yr old midfielder was too old, i dey wait for their excuse.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:26pm On Jun 20, 2021
airmark:


What year did Busquets cease to be in his prime?
2008-2016
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:27pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Yes of course, he was carried in both teams. It’s not hate on bousq I’m telling you how it is.
okay oo...
If you say so
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:32pm On Jun 20, 2021
airmark:


Maybe a 25/26yr old midfielder was too old, i dey wait for their excuse.
Him yansh open after the departure of xavi and iniesta.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:32pm On Jun 20, 2021
donstan18:

Depends on the manager.
Yeah, any manager that deals on ball retention and attacking play.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:35pm On Jun 20, 2021
Jodera:
2008-2016

Years he was at his peak? Yet some Barca fans couldn't stand his weaknesses during this period.

Those gifs i posted were within the bracket, while other Barca key players made Fifa best 11 during this period, he was never picked.

2020

tesppidd:

Leaving Busquets alone to shield the back 4 is one reason why we concede and concede and concede.

2014 attached below. Same spineless Busquets.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:40pm On Jun 20, 2021
Bousq and Jorg look scared while playing, they are quick to release the ball and crumble under pressure. Pep over sabi is the cause of this type of DM, it’s not suppose to be popular.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:43pm On Jun 20, 2021
popizaino:



No way that you're an arsenal fan.
Come and support Chelsea. Forms are available for you and Patrick alone .
Lol....
Football any day is brains over power.
Smartness over unnecessary hardwork.

As for the form... Thanks but arsenal till I vanish grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:57pm On Jun 20, 2021
airmark:


Years he was at his peak? Yet some Barca fans couldn't stand his weaknesses during this period.

Those gifs i posted were within the bracket, while other Barca key players made Fifa best 11 during this period, he was never picked.

2020



2014 attached below. Same spineless Busquets.
Those gifs you posted, like popi.zaino said doesn't mean anything. Even kante, people can show you gifs of how he was dribbled. Does that make him less of a player? No.

Anyways, that same period you people are criticizing busquet, check deeper that same 2014 and people are there who still praise him.
Heck, is it not still this thread some people said kante was playing nonsense and let him be sold? Should I now use that to belittle who kante really is?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:58pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Bousq and Jorg look scared while playing, they are quick to release the ball and crumble under pressure. Pep over sabi is the cause of this type of DM, it’s not suppose to be popular.
Jorg maybe...
But busq is one player that's really press resistant.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 1:00pm On Jun 20, 2021
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Cc: Raumdeuter, Ronald4lyf
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Liposure: 1:08pm On Jun 20, 2021
Ibime:


Messi, Xavi and Dani Alves were the best in their positions in their era.

All the others were very good players though overrated into being the best in their position.

The only wack player was Victor Valdes. Busquets was wack (as a DM) but very good technically. As a CM, he would be very good. Iniesta was a very good player but could not compare to other AMs of his era.

There were some very underrated players in that team too who were solid as a rock and helped Barcelona when game went physical. I am talking Seydou Keita and Eric Abidal.
The Mechanics as they were called
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:17pm On Jun 20, 2021
Jodera:
Yeah, any manager that deals on ball retention and attacking play.
Depends on the league too. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:28pm On Jun 20, 2021
Trevor012:

Nonsense again....... Pirlo was a defensive liability just like Busquet, Jorginho etc Nobody cares about what you enjoy. When talking about Dms all we care about on this thread is Tackles, interceptions, Duels won etc not quality on the ball or intelligence so like I said Pirlo was trash in all those aspects. Bring Pirlo to 2021 and he will massively be exposed for his zero defensive ability and lack of workrate with all the pressing teams are using now. I remember Ferguson using Park to man mark the idiot and he was useless.

Ferguson too was also an idiot,ole is also an idiot and in fact everything that has to do with Manchester United is also an idiot.

Ferguson also used welbeck to also man mark Xabi Alonso and I wonder if also makes him an idiot and useless.

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