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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by olatuns2017: 7:25pm On Jun 20, 2021
Mainman54:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2021/06/20/biafra-igbos-will-be-lose-more-if-nigeria-breaks-up-okorocha/%3famp

Na eggs go do the lights on the roofs of Igbos houses in Lagos once the bell rang!

Mind you obasanjo no be full blooded Yoruba!
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by chukwuibuipob: 7:27pm On Jun 20, 2021
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ipodstinks:
This fool must mention yorubas. The name that stopped any form of success in his family.
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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Sleekfingers: 7:29pm On Jun 20, 2021
Gambit23:


Oh!! So u think the crude oil is taken from afonja land?




shey delta, bayela and rivers state na igbo land abi? For your information, there is crude oil in lagos and ondo state.......but it might not be as abundant, if compare with the crude oil from the southsouth.......abi southsouth na igbo land too?
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by FakeUnity: 7:29pm On Jun 20, 2021
Barrywilly:
Igbos will chew this one raw today grin grin grin. Igbos should just remember that they are a "mere dot in a circle". No be me talk am grin. That's what Okoroawusa is trying to tell una

Barrirudeen, are you ewedu muslim or abokey muslim? grin
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by cobsol(m): 7:31pm On Jun 20, 2021
Naajjii:

how is it that it is the turn of Igbo to rule, where did you get that from? you just sit there and say its Igbo turn to rule and expect that Nigeria will follow the instruction. You have to come out and work for it ,convince other tribes that you are a good choice.We have more than 400 tribes in Nigeria and majority have not ruled. Igbo had ruled 3 times in the past.The first military ruler who introduced military rule and dictatorship in Nigeria was an Igbo man. If it is turn by turn thing then Igbo will have to wait for its turn ,let it go round through others that have not ruled. You think by engaging in ESN/unknown gunmen will give you presidency? you people must be kidding

Then allow then to go so you can rule yourselves forever.

Why is this even difficult? Are you people not lichen? No b juju be this? Madness
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by FakeUnity: 7:34pm On Jun 20, 2021
Okoroawusa will earn a 'visit of evangelism' very soon. grin
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Gjmff: 7:36pm On Jun 20, 2021
Really
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Adakintroy: 7:40pm On Jun 20, 2021
Tranquillity360:
So much love and care from Enemies of Igbos.



Let us suffer our suffer while you suffer yours,Abi na only Igbos will suffer it.



You people always sound as if you people are doing Igbos favour in Nigeria.

Nobody sound that way. You sound like you are too big to be with Nigeria.
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by OfoIgbo: 7:48pm On Jun 20, 2021
richie240:

And why is dt so biko?
You forgot to tell ur audience ur hatred for d Hausa-fulani; ur disgust for d Yoruba's etc.
Politics is a game of numbers and its only an imbécile that will hand over his gun to his avowed enemy.
You unashamedly and boldly insult and denigrate others constantly, yet expect d same ppl to see u in good light?
That's some high level psychosis shít if u ask me.

The 1966 issue is still there, how a group -d Igbo's - killed d political and military leaders of other tribes but conveniently 'forgot' to touch any of theirs.
Even till tmr most Igbo's see no wrong in that cause but narcissistically wail over d effect of an over-inflated '3 million' deaths.

'Macbeth' hath indeed murdered sleep.
#Enuff_of_d_hypocritical_wailings
cool

Igbos can never see anything wrong with the 1966 coup after all it was Igbos that also crushed it, and clamped the plotters into detention.

But when pogroms were organised to kill Igbos and other easterners, Gowon did not punish the planners of the pogroms. Today they own oil blocs in Akwa Ibom, Delta e.t.c.

Igbos voted for Obasanjo. They voted for Yaradua. They massively voted for Jonathan so these evidences quash your allegations that Igbos hate everybody, otherwise they wouldn't have voted for these non-Igbo presidents.
The question should now be this. Which Igbo president did you ever vote in? The answer is none. What this means is that you Fulanis have been directing the hate towards Igbos.

Anyway Igbos are really now more interested in Biafra. We are tired of all this crap

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by lolu2019: 7:50pm On Jun 20, 2021
[hiquote author=GidiCars post=102919972]thank u

“DEAR SIR, IF THIS STORY IS TRUE, then we don’t need WAR or VIOLENCE but DIALOGUE”. Emeka Akaolisa. Copied.
Any Historians in the house to check this out?. Nnamdi Kanu can never tell these Innocent Igbo Youths who are being Slaughtered the Truth.

Forgotten History Of Igbo Tribe And Northern Alliance.

Do you know that when Tafawa Balewa was Prime Minister of Nigeria:
1). Chief of Army Staff was from SE
2). Chief of Naval Staff was from SE
3). IG of Police was from SE
4). Chief of Defence Staff was from SE
5). Internal Affairs Minister SE
6). External Affairs Minister SE
7). Education Minister South SE
??. Senate President SE
9). Unilag VC from SE
10). University of Ibadan VC from SE

For your information, the North resisted a similar imposition at ABU, Zaria!

Still, there was dissatisfaction by SE, the officers from the region killed this same Balewa!!!!

Out of all the most senior officers in Nigeria, SE has 37, none was killed. 8 from the north, all of them were killed. 10 from the west, 2 were killed.

Then Ironsi imposed a unitary system of government on the country so that everything can belong to a region who snatched it!

We must know our history so that when we want to make corrections, we will not end up concealing the truth. This has nothing to do with tribalism but everything to do with the truth.....at times when lies litter the streets. There is a tendency to think those are truths and facts.

What follows are documented facts that can be cross-checked for authenticity!

Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Prof. Ben Nwabueze was the man who drafted the constitution that took away powers from regions and handed it to the central government because his brother Aguiyi Ironsi was the head of state then. Today, he is shouting restructuring that he helped to destroy. We won’t forget.

WHAT BIAFRANS WILL NEVER TELL YOU ABOUT THE REAL CAUSE OF THEIR WOES IN NIGERIA TODAY:
The Igbo man is known to enjoy blaming the Hausa Fulanis, Yorubas and indeed every other Nigerian tribe and Lord Luggard/Britain for their seeming claim of being in third class citizen status in Nigeria.

In their perpetual attempts to play the victim card, they recount the political events of Nigeria from 1914 to the present in a half-baked and highly selective manner which cleverly avoids the mention of the roles played by their elite who by all natural laws of judgment were actually responsible for the woes that befell not only the Igbo race but the entire Nigeria nation. The story told in the post above is one of such selective and distorted accounts of history which the average Igbo man is fond of narrating.

However, the national archives have the complete and unedited history of Nigeria regarding the political events beginning way back from even before 1914. I will therefore proceed to furnish my readers with the complete story for all to read and be endowed with enough facts so as to judge and act from an informed position.

Shortly after the 1914 Amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates, it started getting clear that the country was bound to fail as the amalgamation in question was done with colonial fiat without the consent and consensus of the different tribes which were over 300. This prompted the political leaders to start asking for de-amalgamation so as to forestall the future danger which the forced amalgamation portended.

To that end, Ahmadu Bello, speaking on behalf of the Northern protectorate in 1944 described the amalgamation as "The mistake of 1914 which if allowed to remain will ultimately lead to unstoppable bloodshed and a failed country".

Awolowo, speaking on behalf of the Yorubas and Western minorities, described Nigeria as a mere geographical expression not qualified to be called a country let alone a nation. Awolowo added that if the amalgamation could not be reversed, then Nigeria should be structured as a strictly federal state so as to enable each tribe enjoy autonomy this freedom from being dominated by any one single tribe.


But Nnamdi Azikiwe, speaking for the Igbos, denounced Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello, terming them ethnic champions. He accused them of nursing a sectional agenda against the unity of Nigeria, and he declared further that the Unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable.

After moving the motion for independece in 1953, Anthony Enahoro proposed that a secession clause should be incorporated into the future constitution of Nigeria so as to give legal backing for any tribe to peacefully exit the forced union if it feels marginalized in future. According to Enahoro, such provision in our constitution would instill in all Nigeria's future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance.

But Azikiwe, speaking on behalf of Igbos, rose against him in the parliament and labelled him an agent of disunity, and enemy of Nigeria. At a later date, Awolowo too made a case for secession clause, but Azikiwe again resisted him and instigated the colonial authorities to threaten him and Enahoro with charges of treasonable felony if they didn't stop proposing secession clause for the future constitution.

While Azikiwe did all these, Igbos cheered and urged him on because they felt the future Nigeria was theirs to dominate and lord it over every other tribes.

Before Independence, Tafawa Balewa too had in a public speech described Nigeria as a British experiment and Nigeria's unity as a British intention which Nigerians themselves don't believe in. But Azikiwe kicked and demonized him too. Had Azikiwe co-operated with Enahoro, Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa about the secession clause, Nigeria perhaps would not have been this misgoverned.

For those in doubt, here is a link of one of the numerous instances in which Nnamdi Azikiwe fought against the secession clause proposal for the future Nigeria constitution.

It should be noted that there were many Igbo members of the parliament in which Azikiwe fought against Awolowo's secession clause proposal in the link above, but not a single one of them rose against Azikiwe or condemned him.

Igbos initially never wanted to hear anything like secession in Nigeria because they so much believed, though falsely, that they were the most educated tribe. (The first Nigerian tribe to produce a university graduate is the Binis). As an evidence of Igbo domination agenda hence their initial resistance to the idea of secession; here are some quotes:

- "From all indications, the god of us Igbos have destined us to rule the whole of Africa"..... Nnamdi Azikiwe (1945).

- "It is getting clearer each day that Igbo domination of Nigeria is just a question of time"... Oscar Onyeamma. (1949). Anascopeterson: As at 1900, the whole of the present Benue State, Kogi East Senatorial District and some southern parts of Taraba State called Munchi District back then; were all in the Southern Protectorate. Whoever doubts this should consult MacMillan Atlas for secondary schools in Nigeria.

With that situation the South had a higher population than the North hence always had an upper hand in any democratic bargain.

But as at the early fifties when the regions were being created, common sense dictated clearly that these areas should fall in the future Eastern Region. But against common sense, the colonial masters decided to gerrymander them into the Northern Region. While they did that, Azikiwe who was supposed to be in Enugu fighting against it as the leader of the East, was far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo to rule the Western Region and also playing the spoiler role against Awolowo's attempts to have Kwara and present Kogi Yorubas carved into the Western Region from the North which was already too large by landmass.

While he abandoned his burning house and was far away in Ibadan struggling against Awolowo for his own (Awolowo's) region, Igbos saw absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rather they applauded him as a nationalist. A nationalist whose house was burning yet busy chasing rats in a faraway land.


When opinions became unanimous that Lord Luggard and his government must be forced out of Nigeria and indeed the whole of Africa, it was still the Igbos that frustrated the attempts. Here is how:
In 1948, Anthony Enahoro organized an anti-colonization symposium in Lagos for which Azikiwe and some other Igbos had agreed to deliver the keynote address. But when the D-day came, Azikiwe was nowhere to be found as he deliberately disappeared into thin air for fear of being arrested and dealt with by Lord Luggard.

Anthony Enahoro then quickly replaced Azikiwe with another person who did the job impromptu but perfectly well as he lambasted and lampooned Lord Luggard and the British Government. However, the British soldiers invaded the symposium venue, arrested the speaker and Enahoro, and jailed them for treasonable felony. Ironically, the next day Azikiwe came out of hiding and granted a radio interview in which he accused Enahoro and the other organizers of suffering from youthful exuberance.

On regaining his freedom a few weeks later and being told of Azikiwe's radio interview, Enahoro resigned from his post as Editor of Azikiwe's newspaper - The West African Pilot.

Then he wrote a book titled "Nnamdi Azikiwe: Sinner or Saint". After launching the book, Enahoro left Azikiwe's party - the NCNC, and moved over to Awolowo's Action Group.
The first military coup in Nigeria was carried out by the majority of Igbo army officers. That was the coup that truncated democracy just six years post Independence and led to a succession of coups which put the country on the reverse gear for 33 years.

Through that first coup, those Igbo army officers who accused the politicians and government of the day of monumental corruption, killed the political leaders of the Northern, Western and Midwestern Regions but allowed all Igbo political figures to escape by tipping them off prior to the D-Day.

In addition to the killing of political figures, they also killed a total of 27 innocent high ranking military officers from every region except their Eastern Region.

In the end an Igbo man called Aguiyi Ironsi, who was supposed to have been killed alongside other military officers, ended up becoming the new military ruler of Nigeria. Rather than immediately arrest and punish the coup plotters, he kept them in detention where they were treated as heroes. This was actually what sowed the seed for the eventual Biafra War.

On the 23rd of February 1966 (i.e. a month and 8 days after the first coup popularly but wrongly known as Nzeogwu coup, an Ijaw born Army officer called Isaac Adaka Boro who hailed from Kaima town of present Bayelsa State, declared the secession of the Niger Delta Republic in an attempt to free his Ijaw people from the monumental marginalization they had been suffering under Igbos in the old Eastern Region.

But Aguiyi Ironsi immediately ordered Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu to arrest him and hand him over to the military high command under him in Lagos. Ojukwu went all out against Isaac Adaka Boro with federal military might and within 12 fighting days killed 150 Isaac Boro's soldiers, arrested him, stripped him naked, and had him driven to Lagos and handed to Ironsi who immediately charged him to court and within two months secured against him a conviction of a treasonable felony for which he was sentenced to death by hanging fixed for December that year by the Supreme Court. His 'crime' was that he declared the secession of the Niger Delta Republic from Nigeria.

Meanwhile, the Igbo coupists who shed innocent blood of other tribes and even sprayed bullets into the bellies of the pregnant wives of Ahmadu Bello and Brigadier Shodeinde were not charged to court or arraigned before any military tribunal.

Isaac Adaka Boro was in detention waiting for December to come for him to join his ancestors. But God so kind, a revenge coup happened on July 29 by Northern soldiers and Ironsi was overthrown and killed. Gowon took over and released Isaac Adaka Boro unconditionally, reinstated him into the Army with his previous rank.

Then on May 30, 1967, Ojukwu too declared the secession of Biafra Republic from Nigeria and without consulting or apologizing to Isaac Boro, drew a Biafra map which included the very areas that made up Isaac Adaka Boro's earlier declared the Niger Delta Republic for which he fought against him and killed his soldiers.

Seeing such a level of arrogance in Ojukwu, Isaac Boro asked Gowon to provide arms for him to crush Biafra by fighting on the Nigerian side in vengeance for Ojukwu's frustration of his own secession declaration 15 months earlier.

Isaac Boro, as an Ijaw man conversant with the waterways, led the Nigeria Army through the coastal areas into Igboland to finish off thousands of Ojukwu's soldiers thus leading to the crushing defeat of Biafra. But today, Igbos accuse Ijaws of betraying them in the war. But from the facts as above, who really betrayed the other in all honesty? Be the judge.

Why Gowon fought against Ojukwu's declaration of Biafra was as follows:

After Ironsi and Ojukwu successfully crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic declaration, Ironsi immediately proceeded to promulgate the Anti-secession Decree which made the mere mention of secession from Nigeria punishable with death by hanging. Ojukwu openly supported and endorsed the decree despite the disapproval of it by the general public. So when Ojukwu later declared Biafra secession, he was reminded of the Anti-secession Decree made by him and his brother Ironsi.

Deadly Truth: Igbos frequently reference Aburi Accord to create the impression that the rest of Nigerian tribes don't honour agreements. This is a very dishonest narrative from Igbos.
First and foremost Aburi Accord was organized by soldiers and unelected civil servants who should not participate in political exercises like making laws due to the civil service anonymity principle.

Secondly, those civil servants and military men in attendance were not elected by their federal constituencies to the Aburi summit. In the philosophy of democracy, the only universally acceptable way of making laws is through duly elected representatives of the people. But in going to Aburi the peoples' representatives duly elected in the 1965 elections were all sidelined for soldiers to hijack the process. Where on earth do soldiers make laws for the people? Rather, the civilian populace makes laws that guide the military. Aburi Accord, therefore, had no seal of the people's sovereignty hence it was an illegality that shouldn't have been allowed to stand.

Thirdly, in 1957, Nigerians from all federal constituencies democratically elected representatives whom they sponsored to London, paid their flight tickets and hotel accommodation for the Independence constitutional conference. Those representatives all resolved and agreed on federalism marked by regional autonomy and resource control in the Independence Constitution which they brought back home and everyone accepted it.

In that constitution, Nigerians all agreed that on no account shall the military take-over power. It was also clearly stated in it that amendments to it could be done by only democratically elected representatives.

That constitution was the first-ever agreement between all Nigerians. On the day of his inauguration as the Army GoC, Aguiyi Ironsi stood before the whole world and with his own mouth swore to protect and defend that sovereign Independence constitution regardless of the circumstances that may later arise.

But just six years after he manufactured an excuse to clinch power against the clear provisions of that constitution we all agreed to, unilaterally began to amend its provisions with his very offensive Decrees. All these ended up dismantling federalism and resource control therein, and ultimately subverted that constitution we all painstakingly sacrificed to draft.

That was the height of Irresponsibility and the dishonoring of sacred agreement. That was how Igbos breached the first agreement, all Nigerians, ever all mutually consented to, thus laying the foundation for violation of future agreements.


So Aburi Accord was only treated exactly the same way Igbos treated the Independence constitution agreement.[/quote]

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Ezzywaymadu(m): 7:52pm On Jun 20, 2021
So make them de marry us b we gain OGA sodom well meka seedoor
Property is legally Own
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by OfoIgbo: 7:58pm On Jun 20, 2021
adanny01:


In the current political circle (APC), who did you support? Do you even support the current political circle? How do you expect an Igbo to be selected at this time when the Igbos are threatening thunder and brimstone.

Have you ever heard of the coined words "winning team"? You need to be in a winning team to taste the exploits of battle.

The Hausa took the presidency away from Jonathan, they needed an alliance they got it with SW. It is only after the participants of that winning team have finished their turns with the exploits before they will consider any other one. It is not rocket science.

Ekweme was simply not in the winning team. In general, the Igbos don't understand politics or politicking.

The lack of understanding from the Igbos is mind boggling.

That is why Igbos want Biafra.

We have seen how your winning team ruined Nigeria's economy from 2015. We have seen how your winning team has vehemently refused to restructure Nigeria. We have experienced how your winning team uses nepotism, terrorism and dictatorship to clamp down on peaceful protests and dissenting voices.
God forbid that I am a part of such a retrogressive winning team.

Biafra is the winning team that I desire

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by emmastace: 8:10pm On Jun 20, 2021
My question is if Nigeria ceases to exist, properties owned by foreigners will disappear or what? Don't Nigerians own property in other countries?
Let's address real issues and stop chasing shadows.
Mainman54:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2021/06/20/biafra-igbos-will-be-lose-more-if-nigeria-breaks-up-okorocha/%3famp

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by AntiBMC(m): 8:16pm On Jun 20, 2021
drlateef:




Where is your house located in Lagos? I will be the first to acquire the property.

When the time comes, I will dash you. Enjoy.

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by AntiBMC(m): 8:19pm On Jun 20, 2021
manchyme:


Some people said same thing for Goodluck Jonathan. They didn't know Buhari will be worst. At a time the children of Israel were blaming Moses for taking them out of Egypt.
No one knows tomorrow.

What's worse than being killed like a turkey by fulani marauding herdsmen/Terrorist?

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Lightorder: 8:23pm On Jun 20, 2021
Mbataku96:

And that's why I said we (igbos) don't have selfless leaders
exactly
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Nobody: 8:23pm On Jun 20, 2021
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked



He is correct.
The Igbos will lose more if Nigeria breaks up.
They will lose all their haters,
They will lose the herdsmen destroying their farms,
They will lose the slavemaster that has chained them all the while.

They will not only lose, they will be loosened from bondage to compete with their peer nations of Taiwan, China and Singapore.

- Our Aba-made shoes will compete with that of the Italians.
- Our 'Awka-made' will compete with the English pistols,
- Our Akwete Fabrics will compete with Cashmere from Mongolia.
- Our Innoson cars will compete with South Korea's Kia.
- Our 042 area code will be more famous than California's 213.
- Our Ogbunigwe will make the Russians look like learners in explosives.

They know this and that's why the average Southerner doesn't like the Igbo. It is not because they hate us, but because they feel inferior when they think about us.

Igbo bu Igbo.
Just like the Jews excel by default, so do the Igbos and it explains why people who aim to succeed in life always try to get entangled with our men and our women so as to attain success via soul-ties.
If you doubt me, ask FFK, ask Davido, then ask Kerry Washington.

Igbo Kwezuonu.

The main problem of Igbos is with relationship with her neighbours. Severally, I have had bitter engagement with IBOS for cautioning them against the attack of South South people particularly, the Ikwerres, Ijaws and Ogonis. They attacked Isaac Adaka Boro and Ken Saro Wiwa' s memorial. They are always at war with the Ikwerres. In 2017, Ambode and Emmanuel Udom of AkwaIbom jointly hosted Southern States governors forum in Lagos, the IBOS flopped that meeting with attack against the Yorubas. That night was very tough. The memorial of Boro and that of Ken Saro Wiwa were another days of online battle between IBOS and tribes in the South.

Ngige, Ezendigbo in the North, Ohaneze ndigbo, governors and now Okorocha are talking about unity when it became obvious the South South are not in good term with the IBOS. Buhari even said so after his dot in the circle statement. It is this reality that is bringing out this statement.

The only tribe that can liberate the IBOS is the Yorubas. Religious and political dichotomies and internal crisis since Awolowo /Akintola era have created problems in Yoruba land which affected development.

Going back to civil war history against your neighbours accusing them of betrayals cannot build goodwill among your neighbors, rather, it cages you. The North is using Mallams from several Africa countries to keep South in perpetual slavery . They never wanted Southern Unity. They are afraid of the unity of the South. The IBOS are busy fighting everybody. There would be problem.

The only thing that can liberate the South is unity.

All those things you listed above are childish. They are for children consumption. The reality on ground is more devastating than those childish self appraisals.
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Yusufisraelj(m): 8:23pm On Jun 20, 2021
Tranquillity360:
If Igbos will loose more,yorubas and hausafulanis would have join hand and push Igbos out of Nigeria.



They didn't fought Igbos for three year because they love Igbos and don't want them to loose.



Fact.


An average Hausa man is never interested in a divided Nigeria.
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by AntiBMC(m): 8:23pm On Jun 20, 2021
moshino:


Go and work hard, and build something out of your life, don't use this your misguided biafra nonsense to destroy what others built.

See this one... confused s0ul. Are fulani herdsmen not destroying what thousands of people worked hard for? Mr hardworker...wait until they come burning down ur house, along with you nd ur family in it. Except of course u are a fulani masquerading here as a yoruba fellow.

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by AntiBMC(m): 8:25pm On Jun 20, 2021
seyz91:
I believe you meant to write "intolerable"

I believe u missed ur way nd landed on the wrong mention. Retrace ur steps.. ITK
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Duvet1950: 8:25pm On Jun 20, 2021
Sleekfingers:




is that what i am saying? I said i am among the majority of yorubas that dont support that crap.........those shouting oduduwa nation are not up to 5% of the entire yoruba population.....so how is that a majority?

Like they say, "The taste of a pudding is in the eating." All the talk is nothing but BALDERDASH! The only way to tell which side is the majority is thru a REFERENDUM!

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Sleekfingers: 8:31pm On Jun 20, 2021
Duvet1950:


Like they say, "The taste of a pudding is in the eating." All the talk is nothing but BALDERDASH! The only way to tell which side is the majority is thru a REFERENDUM!



ok
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Nobody: 8:33pm On Jun 20, 2021
Duvet1950:


Like they say, "The taste of a pudding is in the eating." All the talk is nothing but BALDERDASH! The only way to tell which side is the majority is thru a REFERENDUM!

You don't need a referendum. Over 80% of Yorubas supported Oduduwa Republic. The elders are aware but because of their old age, they don't want war.
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by AfonjaConehead: 8:34pm On Jun 20, 2021
ipodstinks:
[s][/s]Trash.

Yes, Alakija is entangle with the Igbos

Otedola is entangle with Igbos

Proforce is entangle with Igbos

Obama is entangle with Igbos

Donald trump is entangle with Igbo

Dangote is entangle with Igbos

Obasanjo is entangle with Igbos

Adenuga is entangle with Igbos

Jeff bezos is entangle with Igbos

Bill gate is entangle with Igbos

Obat oil is entangle with Igbos

Ooni is entangle with Igbos

Oba of Morocco is entangle with Igbo

Infact, Europe, US are entangle with Igbo.

That is why no Igbo man among the top 10 richest in africa.

I don't need mentioning more.




To imagine this is a yoruba person ranting!!! Abomination!!!


...is entangle..."

Illiterate grin
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Jonathan39: 8:34pm On Jun 20, 2021
Almajiri, why are you afraid of igbos leaving Nigeria? angry grin
OnionBandit:
Man wey sabi

Okoro with brainz
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by OnionBandit(f): 8:37pm On Jun 20, 2021
Jonathan39:
Almajiri, why are you afraid of igbos leaving Nigeria? angry grin
Bacause Yeebows are the backbone of the country. Without them, Nigeria is long gone.
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by adanny01(m): 8:37pm On Jun 20, 2021
OfoIgbo:


That is why Igbos want Biafra.

We have seen how your winning team ruined Nigeria's economy from 2015. We have seen how your winning team has vehemently refused to restructure Nigeria. We have experienced how your winning team uses nepotism, terrorism and dictatorship to clamp down on peaceful protests and dissenting voices.
God forbid that I am a part of such a retrogressive winning team.

Biafra is the winning team that I desire

I wish you good luck.
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Nobody: 8:38pm On Jun 20, 2021
lolu2019:
[hiquote author=GidiCars post=102919972]thank u

“DEAR SIR, IF THIS STORY IS TRUE, then we don’t need WAR or VIOLENCE but DIALOGUE”. Emeka Akaolisa. Copied.
Any Historians in the house to check this out?. Nnamdi Kanu can never tell these Innocent Igbo Youths who are being Slaughtered the Truth.

Forgotten History Of Igbo Tribe And Northern Alliance.

Do you know that when Tafawa Balewa was Prime Minister of Nigeria:
1). Chief of Army Staff was from SE
2). Chief of Naval Staff was from SE
3). IG of Police was from SE
4). Chief of Defence Staff was from SE
5). Internal Affairs Minister SE
6). External Affairs Minister SE
7). Education Minister South SE
??. Senate President SE
9). Unilag VC from SE
10). University of Ibadan VC from SE

For your information, the North resisted a similar imposition at ABU, Zaria!

Still, there was dissatisfaction by SE, the officers from the region killed this same Balewa!!!!

Out of all the most senior officers in Nigeria, SE has 37, none was killed. 8 from the north, all of them were killed. 10 from the west, 2 were killed.

Then Ironsi imposed a unitary system of government on the country so that everything can belong to a region who snatched it!

We must know our history so that when we want to make corrections, we will not end up concealing the truth. This has nothing to do with tribalism but everything to do with the truth.....at times when lies litter the streets. There is a tendency to think those are truths and facts.

What follows are documented facts that can be cross-checked for authenticity!

Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Prof. Ben Nwabueze was the man who drafted the constitution that took away powers from regions and handed it to the central government because his brother Aguiyi Ironsi was the head of state then. Today, he is shouting restructuring that he helped to destroy. We won’t forget.

WHAT BIAFRANS WILL NEVER TELL YOU ABOUT THE REAL CAUSE OF THEIR WOES IN NIGERIA TODAY:
The Igbo man is known to enjoy blaming the Hausa Fulanis, Yorubas and indeed every other Nigerian tribe and Lord Luggard/Britain for their seeming claim of being in third class citizen status in Nigeria.

In their perpetual attempts to play the victim card, they recount the political events of Nigeria from 1914 to the present in a half-baked and highly selective manner which cleverly avoids the mention of the roles played by their elite who by all natural laws of judgment were actually responsible for the woes that befell not only the Igbo race but the entire Nigeria nation. The story told in the post above is one of such selective and distorted accounts of history which the average Igbo man is fond of narrating.

However, the national archives have the complete and unedited history of Nigeria regarding the political events beginning way back from even before 1914. I will therefore proceed to furnish my readers with the complete story for all to read and be endowed with enough facts so as to judge and act from an informed position.

Shortly after the 1914 Amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates, it started getting clear that the country was bound to fail as the amalgamation in question was done with colonial fiat without the consent and consensus of the different tribes which were over 300. This prompted the political leaders to start asking for de-amalgamation so as to forestall the future danger which the forced amalgamation portended.

To that end, Ahmadu Bello, speaking on behalf of the Northern protectorate in 1944 described the amalgamation as "The mistake of 1914 which if allowed to remain will ultimately lead to unstoppable bloodshed and a failed country".

Awolowo, speaking on behalf of the Yorubas and Western minorities, described Nigeria as a mere geographical expression not qualified to be called a country let alone a nation. Awolowo added that if the amalgamation could not be reversed, then Nigeria should be structured as a strictly federal state so as to enable each tribe enjoy autonomy this freedom from being dominated by any one single tribe.


But Nnamdi Azikiwe, speaking for the Igbos, denounced Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello, terming them ethnic champions. He accused them of nursing a sectional agenda against the unity of Nigeria, and he declared further that the Unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable.

After moving the motion for independece in 1953, Anthony Enahoro proposed that a secession clause should be incorporated into the future constitution of Nigeria so as to give legal backing for any tribe to peacefully exit the forced union if it feels marginalized in future. According to Enahoro, such provision in our constitution would instill in all Nigeria's future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance.

But Azikiwe, speaking on behalf of Igbos, rose against him in the parliament and labelled him an agent of disunity, and enemy of Nigeria. At a later date, Awolowo too made a case for secession clause, but Azikiwe again resisted him and instigated the colonial authorities to threaten him and Enahoro with charges of treasonable felony if they didn't stop proposing secession clause for the future constitution.

While Azikiwe did all these, Igbos cheered and urged him on because they felt the future Nigeria was theirs to dominate and lord it over every other tribes.

Before Independence, Tafawa Balewa too had in a public speech described Nigeria as a British experiment and Nigeria's unity as a British intention which Nigerians themselves don't believe in. But Azikiwe kicked and demonized him too. Had Azikiwe co-operated with Enahoro, Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa about the secession clause, Nigeria perhaps would not have been this misgoverned.

For those in doubt, here is a link of one of the numerous instances in which Nnamdi Azikiwe fought against the secession clause proposal for the future Nigeria constitution.

It should be noted that there were many Igbo members of the parliament in which Azikiwe fought against Awolowo's secession clause proposal in the link above, but not a single one of them rose against Azikiwe or condemned him.

Igbos initially never wanted to hear anything like secession in Nigeria because they so much believed, though falsely, that they were the most educated tribe. (The first Nigerian tribe to produce a university graduate is the Binis). As an evidence of Igbo domination agenda hence their initial resistance to the idea of secession; here are some quotes:

- "From all indications, the god of us Igbos have destined us to rule the whole of Africa"..... Nnamdi Azikiwe (1945).

- "It is getting clearer each day that Igbo domination of Nigeria is just a question of time"... Oscar Onyeamma. (1949). Anascopeterson: As at 1900, the whole of the present Benue State, Kogi East Senatorial District and some southern parts of Taraba State called Munchi District back then; were all in the Southern Protectorate. Whoever doubts this should consult MacMillan Atlas for secondary schools in Nigeria.

With that situation the South had a higher population than the North hence always had an upper hand in any democratic bargain.

But as at the early fifties when the regions were being created, common sense dictated clearly that these areas should fall in the future Eastern Region. But against common sense, the colonial masters decided to gerrymander them into the Northern Region. While they did that, Azikiwe who was supposed to be in Enugu fighting against it as the leader of the East, was far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo to rule the Western Region and also playing the spoiler role against Awolowo's attempts to have Kwara and present Kogi Yorubas carved into the Western Region from the North which was already too large by landmass.

While he abandoned his burning house and was far away in Ibadan struggling against Awolowo for his own (Awolowo's) region, Igbos saw absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rather they applauded him as a nationalist. A nationalist whose house was burning yet busy chasing rats in a faraway land.


When opinions became unanimous that Lord Luggard and his government must be forced out of Nigeria and indeed the whole of Africa, it was still the Igbos that frustrated the attempts. Here is how:
In 1948, Anthony Enahoro organized an anti-colonization symposium in Lagos for which Azikiwe and some other Igbos had agreed to deliver the keynote address. But when the D-day came, Azikiwe was nowhere to be found as he deliberately disappeared into thin air for fear of being arrested and dealt with by Lord Luggard.

Anthony Enahoro then quickly replaced Azikiwe with another person who did the job impromptu but perfectly well as he lambasted and lampooned Lord Luggard and the British Government. However, the British soldiers invaded the symposium venue, arrested the speaker and Enahoro, and jailed them for treasonable felony. Ironically, the next day Azikiwe came out of hiding and granted a radio interview in which he accused Enahoro and the other organizers of suffering from youthful exuberance.

On regaining his freedom a few weeks later and being told of Azikiwe's radio interview, Enahoro resigned from his post as Editor of Azikiwe's newspaper - The West African Pilot.

Then he wrote a book titled "Nnamdi Azikiwe: Sinner or Saint". After launching the book, Enahoro left Azikiwe's party - the NCNC, and moved over to Awolowo's Action Group.
The first military coup in Nigeria was carried out by the majority of Igbo army officers. That was the coup that truncated democracy just six years post Independence and led to a succession of coups which put the country on the reverse gear for 33 years.

Through that first coup, those Igbo army officers who accused the politicians and government of the day of monumental corruption, killed the political leaders of the Northern, Western and Midwestern Regions but allowed all Igbo political figures to escape by tipping them off prior to the D-Day.

In addition to the killing of political figures, they also killed a total of 27 innocent high ranking military officers from every region except their Eastern Region.

In the end an Igbo man called Aguiyi Ironsi, who was supposed to have been killed alongside other military officers, ended up becoming the new military ruler of Nigeria. Rather than immediately arrest and punish the coup plotters, he kept them in detention where they were treated as heroes. This was actually what sowed the seed for the eventual Biafra War.

On the 23rd of February 1966 (i.e. a month and 8 days after the first coup popularly but wrongly known as Nzeogwu coup, an Ijaw born Army officer called Isaac Adaka Boro who hailed from Kaima town of present Bayelsa State, declared the secession of the Niger Delta Republic in an attempt to free his Ijaw people from the monumental marginalization they had been suffering under Igbos in the old Eastern Region.

But Aguiyi Ironsi immediately ordered Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu to arrest him and hand him over to the military high command under him in Lagos. Ojukwu went all out against Isaac Adaka Boro with federal military might and within 12 fighting days killed 150 Isaac Boro's soldiers, arrested him, stripped him naked, and had him driven to Lagos and handed to Ironsi who immediately charged him to court and within two months secured against him a conviction of a treasonable felony for which he was sentenced to death by hanging fixed for December that year by the Supreme Court. His 'crime' was that he declared the secession of the Niger Delta Republic from Nigeria.

Meanwhile, the Igbo coupists who shed innocent blood of other tribes and even sprayed bullets into the bellies of the pregnant wives of Ahmadu Bello and Brigadier Shodeinde were not charged to court or arraigned before any military tribunal.

Isaac Adaka Boro was in detention waiting for December to come for him to join his ancestors. But God so kind, a revenge coup happened on July 29 by Northern soldiers and Ironsi was overthrown and killed. Gowon took over and released Isaac Adaka Boro unconditionally, reinstated him into the Army with his previous rank.

Then on May 30, 1967, Ojukwu too declared the secession of Biafra Republic from Nigeria and without consulting or apologizing to Isaac Boro, drew a Biafra map which included the very areas that made up Isaac Adaka Boro's earlier declared the Niger Delta Republic for which he fought against him and killed his soldiers.

Seeing such a level of arrogance in Ojukwu, Isaac Boro asked Gowon to provide arms for him to crush Biafra by fighting on the Nigerian side in vengeance for Ojukwu's frustration of his own secession declaration 15 months earlier.

Isaac Boro, as an Ijaw man conversant with the waterways, led the Nigeria Army through the coastal areas into Igboland to finish off thousands of Ojukwu's soldiers thus leading to the crushing defeat of Biafra. But today, Igbos accuse Ijaws of betraying them in the war. But from the facts as above, who really betrayed the other in all honesty? Be the judge.

Why Gowon fought against Ojukwu's declaration of Biafra was as follows:

After Ironsi and Ojukwu successfully crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic declaration, Ironsi immediately proceeded to promulgate the Anti-secession Decree which made the mere mention of secession from Nigeria punishable with death by hanging. Ojukwu openly supported and endorsed the decree despite the disapproval of it by the general public. So when Ojukwu later declared Biafra secession, he was reminded of the Anti-secession Decree made by him and his brother Ironsi.

Deadly Truth: Igbos frequently reference Aburi Accord to create the impression that the rest of Nigerian tribes don't honour agreements. This is a very dishonest narrative from Igbos.
First and foremost Aburi Accord was organized by soldiers and unelected civil servants who should not participate in political exercises like making laws due to the civil service anonymity principle.

Secondly, those civil servants and military men in attendance were not elected by their federal constituencies to the Aburi summit. In the philosophy of democracy, the only universally acceptable way of making laws is through duly elected representatives of the people. But in going to Aburi the peoples' representatives duly elected in the 1965 elections were all sidelined for soldiers to hijack the process. Where on earth do soldiers make laws for the people? Rather, the civilian populace makes laws that guide the military. Aburi Accord, therefore, had no seal of the people's sovereignty hence it was an illegality that shouldn't have been allowed to stand.

Thirdly, in 1957, Nigerians from all federal constituencies democratically elected representatives whom they sponsored to London, paid their flight tickets and hotel accommodation for the Independence constitutional conference. Those representatives all resolved and agreed on federalism marked by regional autonomy and resource control in the Independence Constitution which they brought back home and everyone accepted it.

In that constitution, Nigerians all agreed that on no account shall the military take-over power. It was also clearly stated in it that amendments to it could be done by only democratically elected representatives.

That constitution was the first-ever agreement between all Nigerians. On the day of his inauguration as the Army GoC, Aguiyi Ironsi stood before the whole world and with his own mouth swore to protect and defend that sovereign Independence constitution regardless of the circumstances that may later arise.

But just six years after he manufactured an excuse to clinch power against the clear provisions of that constitution we all agreed to, unilaterally began to amend its provisions with his very offensive Decrees. All these ended up dismantling federalism and resource control therein, and ultimately subverted that constitution we all painstakingly sacrificed to draft.

That was the height of Irresponsibility and the dishonoring of sacred agreement. That was how Igbos breached the first agreement, all Nigerians, ever all mutually consented to, thus laying the foundation for violation of future agreements.


So Aburi Accord was only treated exactly the same way Igbos treated the Independence constitution agreement.

I have never seen an IBO man discussing the contributions of Nnamdi Azikiwe to the problem on ground. They don't want you to even mention his name. Why? Why?

As I have said severally on nairaland, this constitution review is a wastage and wasted exercise. The South needs to work as a body and present their position to the National Assembly on returning back to constitution at inception.
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Tranquillity360: 8:41pm On Jun 20, 2021
Adakintroy:


Nobody sound that way. You sound like you are too big to be with Nigeria.
We never said we are too big to be in Nigeria.


What we are saying is we are not comfortable the way Nigeria is and need our own country.

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Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by THEAMAKA(f): 8:47pm On Jun 20, 2021
Adakintroy:
Igbos are proud and ignorant.

You can't leave nigeria and retain the former benefits. The selling of "Igbo made" product otherwise know as "substandard" were made possible because Nigeria has 200m strong poor people. As Abraham Maslow ones said poverty creates market for substandards or inferior product. so it is"functional".

many of the ignorant Igbo will not have risen socio economically if not for the mix system of poverty they find themselves.


You don't insult a process in which you in part a benefactor. It's crudely disrespectfull

That you are solid in selling or trade is made possible because the other end is solid in buyizng consistently. Don't make the mistake of thinking you can clap with one hand.


Don't let pride blind you to truth. 200million people to interact in trade and business is no joke. Miss that and you will for ever regret it.



God bless your Sunday. Nigeria will be great. We will work it out you'll see.

So a product is substandard because it’s made in Nigeria, specifically made by igbo people? But you will spend 5 times the amount to buy an “Italian” product that was originally made in a Chinese factory. Smh.
Who cursed the black man like this?
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by dandollaz: 8:48pm On Jun 20, 2021
Who that is down fears no fall.Lets go first are you God!!!SMH
Re: Okorocha: 'Igbos Will Lose More If Nigeria Breaks Up' by Naajjii: 9:01pm On Jun 20, 2021
cobsol:


Then allow then to go so you can rule yourselves forever.

Why is this even difficult? Are you people not lichen? No b juju be this? Madness
Who is holding you people from going? If you are serious about going you will go,this is not 1966 when war was fought , we will be happy for you to leave. You people are parasites. You don't generate any revenue to the nation.

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