theFilmtric:

You talking crap


Is your Jesus white or black?

theFilmtric:

I repeat
Stop lying
I don't wanna go all out
This thread will fall into shambles

Shiver99:


Igbos have always been staunchly agriculturalists being that they allegedly descended from the first West African farmers. This meant that they often looked down on both pastoralists and hunter-gatherers.

Despite this, it is almost certain that ancient Igbos would have preferred hunter-gatherers far more than pastoralist groups.

The focal point of a hunter-gatherer's mindset is giving back what you take in. Due to their lifestyle, they are usually more insular and keep to themselves. Again due to their societal structure, their beliefs generally warn of the destructive nature of greed.

The mindset of a farmer is sowing much to reap bountiful rewards. Everywhere they go, they build up settlements and bring development. In the forefront of their mind is the drive to innovate and improve to continue to reap in abundance.

For Pastoralists, the nature of their lifestyle can often promote encroaching on other people's territory and generally causing a nuisance. It's no secret that historically, annoyances that farming settlements often faced such as kidnapping, theft and land troubles tended to stem from more nomadic groups.

siofra:


In a way. In some areas they are.
Even though we have all been made to fit in the farmer society which has been promoted as ideal it doesn't mean there aren't people in the farmer society who exhibit the hunter gatherer behavior they don't necessarily have to live in the Amazon forest or isolated away from the world doing their thing.

And if you've noticed people with the hunter gatherer behavior in farmer societies are the ones who usually revolutionize the world example Albert Einstein and Jesus Christ.

thebosstrevor1:


Sorry to say this is trash.

The jews were never an hunter gathering group, they were a nomadic groups, even abraham, Joseph were all nomadic and pastoral people that owns cows, goat and sheep, they were moving for one place to another.

So what made Abraham and lot go their seperate ways, wasn't it because of green lands and water for their cattle.

Jesus christ was from the pastoral linage.

Semetic people generally are pastoralists and not farmers even till today.

thebosstrevor1:


Cant you write without trying to diss other tribes and cultures to make igbos look good.

If i may add, you are writing like a manipulator, if i had not pointed out the naked dressing in the old igbo culture, you wouldn't have written about it or you would have said that igbos invented clothes.

siofra:


Nsibidi is a system of writing.
I did not say they didn't walk around naked, yes most of them walked around naked but you're making it seem as if they all walked around naked and nothing else as if many of them didn't drape a cloth across their bodies which is wrong.

In the jungian cognitive functions the most intelligent type is the NT type and they are more likely to behave like people in Hunter gatherer societies or tribes. Just because the hunter gatherers rarely plant their food does not mean they are stupid, yes they maybe primitive but their hunter gatherer skills are still very valuable up to this day.

Valuable skills such as intuition, empathy and creativity which is the driving force of every great civilization and which is not very abundant in the farmer/pastoralist society.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGjuRwx_Y8

thebosstrevor1:


Do you know what is liberalism.

Igbo people are very conservative, Nigerian culture generally is a conservative culture

siofra:


Jesus Christ was from a pastoralist society does not mean he will behave like them. There are still people in the farmer, pastoralist and hunter gatherer societies who tend to deviate.

reality1010:

You are wrong, igbos are not conservative in nature. From history they v been liberal. I gues you are referring to the Nigerian state and those appointed by the Nigerian government.

Shiver99:

If there is anybody else that wants to add or contribute something in the meanwhile, feel free to do so.

Unfortunately there is little investment in collating Igbo historical accounts in a comprehensive manner, so excerpts and images often have to be pieced together from hundreds of historical texts.

thebosstrevor1:


Go and read what is liberalism

Shiver99:
Various Igbo bridges

Bridges in Igboland ranged from step bridges to suspension bridges and differed in complexity and size depending on the waterbody to traverse.

Shiver99:
The Igbo sophisticated egalitarian system made social life dynamic and Igbos themselves very progressive and adaptable.

Ancient Igboland was an agriculture and trading hub, but many often don't emphasize that it was a manufacturing hub as well. Igboland was a land of numerous trained smiths and artisans, and their dexterity and tenacity often scared more timid neighbours.

Igbo smiths were actually known for destroying an entire local smithing industry in modern day Norther Nigeria in the past simply because of superior business tactics.

A British traveller compared the speed, detail and finishing of Igbo smiths manufacturing needles to the work of machines.
Another noted that the dyes that they used for their clothes was comparable and at times superior to that of the British.
Igbo products ranged from furniture, swords, various clothing to guns and so on and so forth.

Shiver99:

The fact that Ancient Igbos covered less, didn't mean they went naked or didn't know what modesty was. It was just what they considered as unclothedness was different.

This is the mistake that for example, Mohammedan groups make of societies such as America. They look at young people wearing shorts and t-shirts or speedos and bikinis on the beach and wonder why they are 'naked'. However, those people certainly don't think so.

Igbos had a strict sense of modesty, but it was not the same as the lopsided sense of modesty that could be seen in western nations or Arabia, where men could go topless to stave off the effects of hot weather while women were left to stay in oven-like burkas and the like.

Igbo fashions were completely adapted to their environment the same as Eurasians, and their sense of modesty developed from there.

reality1010:

He is tell that the Igbo society has been one whose sociopolitical and economic system is hinged on a philosophy that promotes individual efforts, individual rights, individual enterprise, individual representation, iondividual association and individual respects. these are the liberal nature about the Igbo people.
Any thing you infer outside these are not about the Igbo people and not liberal in nature.

siofra:

Neither he was semitic.

ZorGBUooeh:


No need to yab them biko just give them fact.

Some ancient African civilized culture did not cover put totally in those days.

Nubian women and great Queen's moved around topless

Ancient cush didn't wear top

West african civilized women did not wear top

South African women didn't wear top

The only African women that wore top those days were north African women.. The Berbers,tuaregs,Arabs and co.Who later introduced there Arab culture to there southern neighbours and arabized them.

Women been topless in ancient Africa is not a sign of not bin civilized. The Nubians were the most civilized black Africans those days but there women moved around topless.

Dicedpineappple:
They just came to derail this thread that I was enjoying with their tribalistic bigotism..

Mtchwew

reality1010:

You are wrong, igbos are not conservative in nature. From history they v been liberal. I gues you are referring to the Nigerian state and those appointed by the Nigerian government.

thebosstrevor1:


Cant you write without trying to diss other tribes and cultures to make igbos look good.

If i may add, you are writing like a manipulator, if i had not pointed out the naked dressing in the old igbo culture, you wouldn't have written about it or you would have said that igbos invented clothes.

ZorGBUooeh:


Don't be an olodo

Eastern Africans did not wear cloth but were the most civilized of all blacks.Eg the Nubians,black kushites,shiluks and co.Those that later wore clothes amongst them were the arabized ones and those that were later defeated by the Axum's.

West African women didn't wear cloth but were civilized

South African women didn't wear cloth

Only north africans wore cloth.which they later introduced to there immediate southern neighbours who spread it down south.

Wearing of cloth those days should not be used to measure civilization.The Mayans,Aztec and co were not fully clothed but had one of the best civilization.

theFilmtric:

Ancient

And yet 20th century igbos were naked


Who do una dis tin

Fahdiga1:
I don't even understand your ranting. Are you saying that the Igbos are not civilized more than us or what?