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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Boudiccao: 6:24am On Jun 29, 2021
Biafrannuke:
UGM are the ones already whipping their military in the ass. If push ever comes to shove, they'll retreat faster than Ethiopian army.

The thing is the igbo governors are sell outs. They will rather invade and kill their people than support them against the military all because they want political favours from the north. The army met a fierce resistance in the East and when they got frustrated they started abducting civilians and even burnt people's properties.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Biafrannuke: 6:32am On Jun 29, 2021
Boudiccao:


The thing is the igbo governors are sell outs. They will rather invade and kill their people than support them against the military all because they want political favours from the north. The army met a fierce resistance in the East and when they got frustrated they started abducting civilians and even burnt people's properties.
I'll hardly support a Biafra lead by Nigeria-groomed political leaders. I believe if one governor is "taken out" others will "sit up'' against military targeting of innocent civilians in their domain. Whether armed or unarmed, they love killing Biafrans.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Iceyjayz: 6:35am On Jun 29, 2021
Kenistry:


The difference is that they won the war(which they would have used the opportunity to free themselves but greed did not allow then to see clearly, now they're fighting to free themselves again) but we lost the civil war (that's why Nigeria is killing our people ever since).
Are we going to stay defeated? Never!! That's not the blood that runs in Igbos.

We keep rising up and must free ourselves from our oppressors (Nigeria) even if we have to fight again and again.

It's Biafra or Death!!!
Are you ready to face death? no be by being a keyboard warlord

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Nobody: 6:55am On Jun 29, 2021
I bring you a message from Jah

All Africa must be free..............Ras Kimono


Freedom to those that seek freedom.....

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Nobody: 7:03am On Jun 29, 2021
this is what we want Nigeria to end up as embarassed embarassed

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Nobody: 7:07am On Jun 29, 2021
In the quest for your freedom, never you deal with "SYCOPHANTS", HYPOCRITES and HOOLIGANS..........Ras Kimono




When musicians forsaw the future

Sycophants in quote for a reason.
They need freedom but would want to jeopardize your quest for your freedom cos they don't want you to outshine them. African man

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Kingluqman(m): 7:31am On Jun 29, 2021
AstralBody:
First to comment!!gringringrin
In Ethiopia grin

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by IGBOSON1: 8:46am On Jun 29, 2021
ivolt:

Tigrays weren't being oppressed when they ruled the country for 27 years(1991 to 2018) and concentrated
the country's resource to develop their region while neglecting others.

They even fought a bloody civil war against Eritrean independence and subdued other tribes who wants independence while
they were in power.

Just 2 years after losing out power in a democratic process and they suddenly realized they are being oppressed.

Were you the one that stupidly reported this post of mine you just quoted? How come it's suddenly disappeared? Looks like some fool who can't deal with someone elses views prefers to go through the chicken route of reporting it for no reason just to have it deleted!

Can't say i'm an authority on Ethiopia, its political history and internal wranglings, but suffice it to say that the bottomline is all indigenous groups have the right to self-determination! Assuming without conceeding that what you accuse them of is true.....that they 'developed their region to the exclusion of others, and fought a bloody war against the Eritreans', pray tell, how does the actions of the parents and forebears of present day Tigrayans' vitiate their rights as a people based on the United Nations declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples? It's the same lame, vindictive and primitive argument you lot use against Igbos, citing the quelling of the Niger Delta agitation by the Ironsi regime! You may just as well say Germans should give up their rights as a free and independent people because of the actions of their forebears in the 40s!

It may probably be the case that the present regime in Ethiopia is as evil, bigoted and unfair to the Tigrayans' as the present Buhari regime is to some sections of Nigeria! In such a situation, you want to advocate they should sit down and keep quiet just because their region 'ruled the country for 27 years.....etc'?

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by IGBOSON1: 8:48am On Jun 29, 2021
Kenistry:


The difference is that they won the war(which they would have used the opportunity to free themselves but greed did not allow then to see clearly, now they're fighting to free themselves again) but we lost the civil war (that's why Nigeria is killing our people ever since).
Are we going to stay defeated? Never!! That's not the blood that runs in Igbos.

We keep rising up and must free ourselves from our oppressors (Nigeria) even if we have to fight again and again.

It's Biafra or Death!!!

You nailed it!

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Malawian(m): 8:51am On Jun 29, 2021
cocolacec:


The Tigrays also had the support of Eritrea which was a break away region from Ethiopia.
It is the other way round. The Eritreans blame Tigray for their war of independence that took lots of Eritreans, simply because Tigray was in charge of Ethiopia back then. Eritreans joined Abi to commit atrocities in Tigray, and are only just leaving Tigray now due to Tigray's counter offensive.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by IGBOSON1: 8:57am On Jun 29, 2021
ivolt:

Yeah, blame Africa for what every other country will do when provoked.
Go and declare an armed independence state within a US territory and see what you get.

Most civil wars end up in failure by the way.

Daft position! If the US treats any part of its federation or groups the way some sections of Nigeria have been treated from the late 60s to date by those who feel they 'won' the war and Nigeria belongs to them, then trust me, there would be no United States of America today.....certainly not one as is presently configured!

Igbos'/Biafrans' wouldn't be agitating for secession today if Nigeria operated the kind of structure and federation obtainable in the US!

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by cocolacec(m): 9:04am On Jun 29, 2021
Malawian:

It is the other way round. The Eritreans blame Tigray for their war of independence that took lots of Eritreans, simply because Tigray was in charge of Ethiopia back then. Eritreans joined Abi to commit atrocities in Tigray, and are only just leaving Tigray now due to Tigray's counter offensive.
Ok but i noticed Tigray and Eritreans speak the same language of Tigrinya.one thing i know for sure,Africa need to be divided into smaller countries to control their destinies and develop their regions

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by BanevsJoker(m): 9:14am On Jun 29, 2021
Another dot in a circle.
Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by BanevsJoker(m): 9:15am On Jun 29, 2021
IGBOSON1:


Daft position! If the US treats any part of its federation or groups the way some sections of Nigeria have been treated from the late 60s to date by those who feel they 'won' the war and Nigeria belongs to them, then trust me, there would be no United States of America today.....certainly not one as is presently configured!

Igbos'/Biafrans' wouldn't be agitating for secession today if Nigeria operated the kind of structure and federation obtainable in the US!
Some people are not worth engaging.
Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 9:32am On Jun 29, 2021
cocolacec:


The Tigrays also had the support of Eritrea which was a break away region from Ethiopia.

Nope. Eritrea suppprted Ethiopia.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Nobody: 9:33am On Jun 29, 2021
BlakKluKluxKlan:


Nope. Eritrea suppprted Ethiopia.

You see most of them come here and parrot second hand information, its a wonder to behold.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Nobody: 9:39am On Jun 29, 2021
IGBOSON1:


Were you the one that stupidly reported this post of mine you just quoted? How come it's suddenly disappeared? Looks like some fool who can't deal with someone elses views prefers to go through the chicken route of reporting it for no reason just to have it deleted!

Can't say i'm an authority on Ethiopia, its political history and internal wranglings, but suffice it to say that the bottomline is all indigenous groups have the right to self-determination! Assuming without conceeding that what you accuse them of is true.....that they 'developed their region to the exclusion of others, and fought a bloody war against the Eritreans', pray tell, how does the actions of the parents and forebears of present day Tigrayans' vitiate their rights as a people based on the United Nations declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples? It's the same lame, vindictive and primitive argument you lot use against Igbos, citing the quelling of the Niger Delta agitation by the Ironsi regime! You may just as well say Germans should give up their rights as a free and independent people because of the actions of their forebears in the 40s!

It may probably be the case that the present regime in Ethiopia is as evil, bigoted and unfair to the Tigrayans' as the present Buhari regime is to some sections of Nigeria! In such a situation, you want to advocate they should sit down and keep quiet just because their region 'ruled the country for 27 years.....etc'?

Succinctly stated !

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by FreeIgbos: 9:49am On Jun 29, 2021
A very big lesson to Nigeria!

Even superpower nations like America and USSR couldn't defeat ragtag but determined indigenous people and they end up suffering humiliating defeat in relatively wretched countries like Vietnam and Afghanistan respectively yet a broke and totally disorganized country like Nigeria with poorly trained army always brag of war! Like seriously? These guys that always threaten Igbos with war must be grossly deluded if they think they can defeat Igbos in an all out guerilla warfare.

We Igbos have the population, global spread and connections, huge diaspora population that can fund insurrections, and above all we are in an open region that is not hidden from the outside world.

All these pro one Nigeria appologists really need to put pressure on Abuja to do everything possible in pacifying Igbos and entrenching justice in the system because time is fast running out! If these Igbophobic tendencies as a national pass time continues, it will eventually reach a critical mass when the majority of Igbos will say enough is enough, and it will be better to fight and breakaway than to continue suffering indignities.

Nigeria definitely has a date with history!!

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Ojiofor: 9:54am On Jun 29, 2021
Kenistry:


The difference is that they won the war(which they would have used the opportunity to free themselves but greed did not allow then to see clearly, now they're fighting to free themselves again) but we lost the civil war (that's why Nigeria is killing our people ever since).
Are we going to stay defeated? Never!! That's not the blood that runs in Igbos.

We keep rising up and must free ourselves from our oppressors (Nigeria) even if we have to fight again and again.

It's Biafra or Death!!!

Yeah it is good to fight from position of strenght not when you are weak and most vulnerable.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by makemoneywbsite: 10:03am On Jun 29, 2021
Boudiccao:



You are not making sense. Fulanis have control of power which they can use judiciously to better the lives of their people, set up a solid ranching system, uplift their people from poverty and increase the literacy level yet all the Fulani wants is to conquer West Africans and grab lands and resources of indigenous people.
They are not in a better advantage than anyone. Most Nigerian are not yet ready to fight them, the day people get fed up you will know that people can import weapons from anywhere.
The Igbos are not going to fold their hands just because others are not yet ready to fight.
Victory and freedom doesn't come easily.
My dear, too many cowardly tribes in Nigeria is the motivation of the Fulani. If we had more tribes like Igbo, who born Fulani to try nonsense? They know majority of Nigerian tribes are cowardly. Only a few are giving them what they deserve and they're mostly smaller tribes like langtang, Tarok and Eggon. If we had another big tribe like Igbo resisting them, they'd have gone back to Futa Jallon.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Naajjii: 10:37am On Jun 29, 2021
koondog:


Afonja
Lol you miss your target, you better direct it to Afonjas not me
Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Naajjii: 10:42am On Jun 29, 2021
makemoneywbsite:

My dear, too many cowardly tribes in Nigeria is the motivation of the Fulani. If we had more tribes like Igbo, who born Fulani to try nonsense? They know majority of Nigerian tribes are cowardly. Only a few are giving them what they deserve and they're mostly smaller tribes like langtang, Tarok and Eggon. If we had another big tribe like Igbo resisting them, they'd have gone back to Futa Jallon.
But you are in the same country with Fulani the same Fulani is marginalizing you. You cry of injustice ,oppression by Fulani every single day. Why don't you bring your so call bravely to make Fulani cry the way you do? Where , is the bravery ?Igbos are one the 3 big tribes in Nigeria but they cry of marginalization more than the minorities tribes , this show s that you people are weak.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by ivolt: 10:50am On Jun 29, 2021
IGBOSON1:


Daft position! If the US treats any part of its federation or groups the way some sections of Nigeria have been treated from the late 60s to date by those who feel they 'won' the war and Nigeria belongs to them, then trust me, there would be no United States of America today.....certainly not one as is presently configured!

The American south were roundly defeated in the civil war and they remain the most backward part of the US till date.
They top the list of poverty, lower live expectancy, school drop out and other underdevelopment index when compared with the victorious North of the American civil war that occurred 160 years ago.
Can the same be said of the loser of the Nigerian civil war?


Igbos'/Biafrans' wouldn't be agitating for secession today if Nigeria operated the kind of structure and federation obtainable in the US!
The idea that secession is about structure, federation or marginalisation is a lie.
All secessionists needs are opportunists with carefully crafted propaganda or timely disasters.
FYI, Catalonia has better economy than Spain overall, yet they want out.
Scotland which enjoy more government funding from the UK than other members of the union also wants out.


Regardless of how losers of civil war were treated, any group which declare an armed independent state within the US will be destroyed.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by ken6488(m): 10:54am On Jun 29, 2021
nthony10:
When will Africa move past armed struggle and go the diplomatic route to settle issues. Must it be about guns and wars. It's as if we haven't learned from the devastating effects of war.

If some region want to go abeg let him go, instead of using enormous force of which you end up losing the region eventually.
Europe was like that same as America

Germany and France once tried conquering Europe
Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Almaigaa: 11:21am On Jun 29, 2021
GayPontiff:




Buhari your lord and saviour no go rule forever Mumu.
At least buhari we know, but U Sef no body sabi u, u and ur generation go still delete soonest unknown and into oblivion. 30k urchins.

In your wildest dreams.
I Dey Owerri Dey control things. Slept with Chioma and Amaka last night. They are Mother and Daughter. It pays to be an Aboki.
We are respected in the EAST.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Gireiboy(m): 11:30am On Jun 29, 2021
Almaigaa:


In your wildest dreams.
I Dey Owerri Dey control things. Slept with Chioma and Amaka last night. They are Mother and Daughter. It pays to be an Aboki.
We are respected in the EAST.
cheesy grin cheesy

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 12:07pm On Jun 29, 2021
YouWillNotWin:


You see most of them come here and parrot second hand information, its a wonder to behold.

Abi ?
Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by jumobi1(m): 12:16pm On Jun 29, 2021
BlakKluKluxKlan:


Nope. Eritrea suppprted Ethiopia.

Nah. Eritrea once supported the Tigray/TPLF against the Derg regime (Ethiopia). They later fell out.

African wars are complex. Today have brothers joining hands to fight a common enemy. Tomorrow those brothers will join forces with cousins and backstab each other. The wars continue.

I know this because I was schooled by locals when I lived in Eritrea from 2000-2003.

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Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by Nobody: 12:39pm On Jun 29, 2021
samunaka:


What has this got to do with the present situation on ground, why are you posting this one here just to give your gullible followers false hope and psychological deceit, young man grow up

Who are you ? Scram child !!
Re: Tigray: Ethiopian Army Retreats As Rebels Enter The Capital by fozapi(m): 12:46pm On Jun 29, 2021
Sounds like victory for Biafra
Simplyleo onionbandit Erasethedot NorthRules9ja MalcoImX sarrki what do you have to say

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