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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by CovenHighPriest: 9:21pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
Emary: As in eeh the hate is too much 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by ZorGBUooeh: 9:23pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: See me see this Nama o No picture in ancient time?Oya show me ruins na..Great wall of Bini ruins still dey till today.well documented in pictures. We have seen ancient pyramids and houses built by semi clad nubians in pictures,Old and new pictures and Some still exist till today. We have seen Mosques and houses built by the dogons in pictures and some still exist till today. Old igbo houses are in pictures. Why una own come dey exceptional..Abi na only una see wetin una build.Hahaha Show us let's see the magnificent architecture and compare it with others..lols U dey show me quote of one white man wey I no know without proof to back wetin im talk. 5 Likes |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 9:37pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
ZorGBUooeh:If not for the fact that you type faster than you think, you would have read what I typed and seen the images I attached. You would have realized how the mid/late-1900s Igbo structures attached by your brother is a huge disgrace on ndi-Igbo. Now go back to my attachment and take a look at the mid/late-1900s Yoruba structures and come back here to tell me if you won’t drown in tears for ndi-Igbo. (1) Show me an image of the ruin of Benin walls, the only wall ruin that I’m aware of in southern Nigeria is the Sungbo’s Eredo in Ijebu land. Don’t show me a Google image of Sungbo’s Eredo and then claim it is the ruins of Benin walls. But this is by the ways. (2) Pyramids from ancient times are built of stones. You didn’t know that, or do you? Also ancient mosques are religious structures some of which are intentionally preserved with over time renovations, rebuilding, etc. Also, some Europeans today take naked pictures. What does that mean? That the present western society have not yet come fully to the knowledge of cloths. This is a retarded position to hold. (3) What you call old Igbo pictures (as attached by your brother) are photographs of Igbo structures (built of clay/wood) taken in the mid-late-1900s. The photographs of Yoruba structures from that same period (i.e. mid-late-1900s) put all the hamlet in your brother’s attachment to full blown and complete shame. (4) The “wHiTe mAn” travelled through west Africa and came to document his observation. Oh, or do you mean to say that he is mArGiNaLiZiNg Igbo people?? LMAO! You are a disgrace. Cheers! Cc: theFilmtric ——————— PS: For the sake of summary and helping your amnesia, the following are the indices of Yoruba civilization which I had touched on: (A) The best architectural feat found in the West of Africa. (B) The best classical artworks (in diverse media) from sub-Saharan Africa. (C) The knowledge and use of textile/clothing since the classical/ancient times. (D) The knowledge/presence of street paving in Ife (and other parts of Yorubaland) over 1,000 years ago. (E) The innovation of a social-order based on a self-evolved government system now known as monarchy. Among several others, such as writing (as evidenced on the ancient Oranmiyan obelisk); the best bow-men in Africa (as noted by Clapperton’s team); shiny walls (in relation to which the best from Benin could not come close in comparison, as may be seen in H.L. Roth); etc. 7 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by CovenHighPriest: 9:48pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: Create a thread to celebrate Yoruba's ancient civilization, do not help in derailing this one. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by ZorGBUooeh: 9:51pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: Hahahaha So u went online to dig out this stuff. U must be slow in reasoning...Is that not zinc roof and cement wall i am seeing there introduced to Africans by Europeans. Olodo rapata Show ancient building im go dey show me recent building. Oh I don forget Yoruba's invented zinc roof before kahl friedrich schincel. Hahahaha U nor get talk abeg..u just fully exposed ur dumbness 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 9:55pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
CovenHighPriest:If you had taken the time to trace back my comment on this thread to its beginning, you would have noticed that I am responding to the aspect which specifically mentioned Yoruba. Had your brother(s) not mentioned Yoruba (and simply lied continuously about Igbo and Igbo only), then I would have left you all to do as you please. Cc: theFilmtric 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by ZorGBUooeh: 9:59pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: If u no show me una magnificent ancient building Ogun go punish u..I dey wait u Abi u wan go dig out one skyscraper picture?Hahahaha 5 Likes |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by CovenHighPriest: 10:03pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: I know, some monikers claiming Igbo are not actually Igbo. Others that are Igbo but choose to mention other tribes in an uncivil manner and not meaningfully contributing to the thread nor choosing to learn from it don't deserve a response. 2 Likes |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by KAHBOOM: 10:12pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: Guy don't u have shame. People are hitting u right,left center with hard fact and u are repeating the same tin over and over U bragged that u have the best ancient structures in west africa he told u to back ur claim up with pictures..U came up with a recent picture of 1950s and 60s. Abi don't u know the meaning of ancient 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 10:18pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
ZorGBUooeh:Dig? Lol. These are basic stuffs. You are clearly meeting me for the first time. U must be slow in reasoning...Is that not zinc roof and cement wall i am seeing there introduced to Africans by Europeans.This proves my point again. In the mid/late-1900s when those materials were already available, Igbos were still stuck with mud, stick and leaf for shelter. Mid/late-1900s!! What a shame on the Igbo race!! Show ancient building im go dey show me recent building.IF you show me an ancient Igbo building, I will do the same. You can’t provide me with photographs of best Igbo structures from the 1900s, and then request in the same breath that I provide you with photographs of the best Yoruba structures from the 1800s. Does that even make sense to you? What you call ancient Igbo buildings are from photos taken in the mid/late-1900s. (See the first two attachments) While what you call recent Yoruba buildings are also from photos taken in the mid/late-1900s. (See the last two attachments). The same period, yet one looks feeble and uninspiring; while the other looks modern and recent. That’s the whole point I was making. Thanks for making my point. Oh I don forget Yoruba's invented zinc roof before kahl friedrich schincel. HahahahaNo, we didn’t invent zinc. I was embarrassing you with the gap between Yoruba and Igbos during the same period. Your best Igbo structures (attached by your brother) were from the 1900s. I also attached our Yoruba structures also from the 1900s (the same period) just to highlight the gap. If you request photograph of best Yoruba structures from the 1800s, then you must provide photographs of best Igbo structures also from the 1800s. You can’t provide Igbo-1900s, and expect Yoruba-1800s for comparison. To request such double standard is to be admitting already that the Yorubas are superior to your people. Cheers! Cc: theFilmtric 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by BOOZELEE: 10:21pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: Its like u argue for fun..why is the bronze statue on ur dp not on agbada |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 10:22pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
KAHBOOM:The pictures he attached are from the mid/late 1900s. While those I attached are from the early/late 1900s. It is not my fault that your best structures (from the 1900s) looks feeble and uninspiring. Your people were stuck with muds, sticks, and leaves even in as recent as the 1900s. Yet you want to compare with those who are way ahead of you during the same period. Show me a photograph of an Igbo structure from the ancient times. Well, there are no photos in ancient times anyways. Refer to my last comment for more details. Cheers! Cc: theFilmtric 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 10:26pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
CovenHighPriest:Well, whether the guy who mentioned Yoruba is truly Igbo or not, I would always jump in to debunk falsehood on Yoruba history as I please anytime I perceive one. Cheers! Cc: theFilmtric 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by siofra(f): 10:27pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:How did you know? I school there though I don't live there I live at state housing. |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 10:32pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
ZorGBUooeh:You showed me the best photos of Igbo structures from the mid/late 1900s. I showed you the best photos of Yoruba structures from the early/mid 1900s. It is not my fault that ours from the same period are more magnificent. IF you show me a “photograph” of an “ancient” Igbo building (if that’s even possible), then I also will show you a “photograph” of an “ancient” Yoruba structure. Cheers! Cc: theFilmtric 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 10:38pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
BOOZELEE:It doesn’t depict agbada because it dates to circa 700 to 1000 years ago. That was a period of our history and evolution when we are yet come to the use of agbada. In fact, we will still come to the use of other clothing forms in the future in the course of our evolution. Cultures aren’t static, cultures are dynamic. I hope this is not too dense for you to comprehend. Cheers! Cc: theFilmtric 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
siofra: You don't have to know |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by ZorGBUooeh: 10:59pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: U still dey qoute me? The op showed u pictures already so no need to start digging up pictures. He showed u ancient and new pics..If u observe the pics closely u will notice that some recent structures were built with zinc roof..Zinc roof wey u dey use chest beat say na only Yoruba's get access to.Smh for u U are chest beating that u guys have the best ancient architectural design in west Africa I said u should show me pics u go carry 60s pics come here dey bang ur chest. I am talking ancient u are talking 60s. 6 Likes |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 11:02pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
ZorGBUooeh: Your brother showed us your best Igbo structures from the mid and late 1900s — e.g. 1952 and 1973. I countered it with the best Yoruba structures from the early and late 1900s — e.g. 1949 and 1964. Yet you’re blaming us for being more advanced than Igbos during the same period — i.e. the 1900s. Of course that’s the point I’m making. Are you too dumb to realize that? Your brother didn’t present any photo of ancient Igbo building, stop deluding yourself. Cc: theFilmtric 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 11:07pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
ZorGBUooeh:In addition to my foregoing comment, I have already cited you the eyewitness documentation of Frobenius. He travelled through parts of West Africa and noted that the Yoruba have the best architecture from the 1800s and early 1900s. Cheers! Cc: theFilmtric 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 11:13pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
For the sake of summary and helping your amnesia, the following are the indices of Yoruba civilization which I had touched on: (A) The best architectural feat found in the West of Africa. (B) The best classical artworks (in diverse media) from sub-Saharan Africa. (C) The knowledge and use of textile/clothing since the classical/ancient times. (D) The knowledge/presence of street paving in Ife (and other parts of Yorubaland) over 1,000 years ago. (E) The innovation of a social-order based on a self-evolved government system now known as monarchy. Among several others, such as writing (as evidenced on the ancient Oranmiyan obelisk); the best bow-men in Africa (as noted by Clapperton’s team); shiny walls (in relation to which the best from Benin could not come close in comparison, as may be seen in H.L. Roth); etc. Cc: theFilmtric 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by BOOZELEE: 11:20pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: Guy agbada and other form of dressing have been in existence 700,1000 years ago even before the 700,1000 years So if Yoruba's were among the earliest civilization back then and if they wore dresses after the 700,1000 years that means they evolved lately and copied agbada and other form of dressing from thier neighbours.Simple 5 Likes |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by ZorGBUooeh: 11:25pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
TAO11: Im don dey change mouth. Lols |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 11:28pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
ZorGBUooeh:You know what to do if you wish to be taken seriously on any claim you make. And I think you wish to be taken seriously. So, provide evidence for the “cHaNgE mOuTh”. You are a laughing stock. Cheers! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by ZorGBUooeh: 11:29pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
BOOZELEE: Leave that snake abeg..he was boasting of how his tribe discovered cloth before Adam.U gave him a nice example of the unclad art work on his dp he changed mouth to 700,1000 years ago bla bla.As if dressing didn't exist before then.Clown 3 Likes |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TheSupleemLeada(m): 11:30pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
Flatin0 ngua cannibals who ran the streets naked are feeling funky... 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by KAHBOOM: 11:37pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
ZorGBUooeh: See how them king tie wrapper hold palm wine horn with im bare chest like palm wine tapper.Im come here dey brag with cloth and agbada wey dem copy from northerners
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Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 11:40pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
BOOZELEE:The discussion here is about agbada. So, provide me with the substantive historical evidence (not blog post) to substantiate your own claim here. I like historical evidence, rather than mere words. So if Yoruba's were among the earliest civilization back then and if they wore dresses after the 700,1000 years that means they evolved lately and copied agbada and other form of dressing from thier neighbours.SimpleYorubas copied agbada because they didn’t wear agbada 1,000 years ago. What kind of reasoning is this? Wait, how old are you you? LMAO! No! A civilization may evolve more complex forms of clothing at different stages of their cultural evolution. In any case, the falsehood I’m debunking in this regard is that, the Yorubas borrowed this clothing from the Hausas. The Yorubas and Hausa came to the use of agbada independent of one another. Cheers! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 11:48pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
https://www.nairaland.com/6624267/how-igbos-lived-olden-days/8#103211833 ZorGBUooeh:I can imagine the liters of tears you shed as you typed this. LMAO! U gave him a nice example of the unclad art work on his dp he changed mouth to 700,1000 years ago bla bla.Did you skip basic English classes to have come to this understanding of the word “unclad”? LMAO! Also, regarding “changed mouth” — you know what to do if you wish to be taken seriously on this. And I think you wish to be taken seriously. So, do the needful. In other words, provide comparative evidence of my comment in relation to which I have now “cHaNgEd mOuTh”. As if dressing didn't exist before then.ClownYeah one thousand years ago, we tied wrappers (and evolved other styles later in the course of time). 1,000 years ago, Igbos swung n@ked from tree to tree. In fact, Igbos were still n@ked only 200 years ago. Cheers! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by ZorGBUooeh: 11:49pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
KAHBOOM: Hahahahaha..Nice one U just gave him another knockdown..which other proof does he want again Probably the guy don go dig out sculpture of oni were im were jeans,polo and money jacket with sunglasses.So im go claim say na Yoruba's invent modern dressing. Clown 2 Likes |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by ZorGBUooeh: 11:50pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
KAHBOOM: Hahahahaha..Nice one U just gave him another knockdown..which other proof does he want again Probably the guy don go dig out sculpture of oni were im were jeans,polo and money jacket with sunglasses.So im go claim say na Yoruba's invent modern dressing. Clown 1 Like |
Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by TAO11(f): 11:55pm On Jun 29, 2021 |
ZorGBUooeh:Your pool of tears (veiled with dry humour) are understandably valid. KAHBOOM:(1) Thermoluminescence test dates that image to circa 700 — 1000 years ago. In other words, the Yoruba have an understanding of clothing many, many centuries ago; while their Igbo counterparts were still swinging n@ked from tree to tree in as recent as 200 years ago. (2) Agbada usage in Yorubaland didn’t date to circa 700 — 1000 years ago, and I can’t remember any Yoruba saying that. My point have consistently been that (and I challenge you to show where I said otherwise) that the Yorubas’ agbada usage must have been at some later period in the course of our cultural evolution. I also maintain that it wasn’t borrowed from the Hausas, contrary to your brother’s false, unsubstantiated claim. Cheers! 5 Likes 1 Share |
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