Trevor012:
Here we go

The longest transfer saga in history

donstan18:

Marcelo na liability, defensively.

Stop acting like you don’t know what I’m saying.

He’s not a complete LB.

Ramos don help and sacrificed for a lot of players for this life, Marcelo inclusive.

You are just trying to look for something to cover your earlier mess of not placing Marcelo among real Madrid world class player cus I dont understand this excuse of defensive liability. If I ask you to show me were and how this defensive liability has cost real Madrid now you will begin stutter. Need I tell you a certain jose Mourinho once preferred a certain contrao without defensive liability than Marcelo and you know how it ended.


Now watch this video and tell me why Sergio Ramos didnt cover for contrao the way he use to do for Marcelo when contrao hot dribbled by lahm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnUhehOr1wk

Jodera:
all these ones you're saying na just excuse. A key player suspended is no excuse cos it's the key players fault. They played the competition, got suspended along the way and lost, so what are you saying? No be even injury self that I might be sympathetic.

They changed their WC winning manager because he underperformed before the tournament. Simple.

So your excuse about France not deserving of the world cup have been proven wrong

Italy changed their world cup winning magers and did not well in the subsequent competition

Others didn't change their world cup managers and went on well to do well in the next competition.

Italy missed their key player in Pirlo and Gattuso which also contributed to their exit to spain

Others teams didn't miss any key player .if you dont see the pattern in this then I cant help you again .

Katcall:
I feel the french team were helped by VAR. From the first game against Australia where they got a controversial penalty and Griezman converted to the very last game against high flying Croatia.

U sabi

Same England that almost everybody had been dissing last week have suddenly transformed, Ok

raumdeuter:


Before most people here, I knew Harvetz and I knew he is talented, I wanted him at Bayern and still hope we can get him when he is older, physically stronger and more matured. I see him partnering Nmecha for Germany or even become the striker with Wirtz, Musiala Gnabry, Moukoko behind him

Jogi Low messed Germany up for the past 5yrs he should have left after 2018, after Spain destroyed us 6-0, after the Macedonia embarrasment but he waited too long for England to finally beat us in a major tournament knockout for the first time since 1966

Shame to Low and Hummels

moukoko is another fine player, have been looking for him on FM can't find him, hopefully hansi flick will do a good job with the team, I noticed that he plays a very high line and will need fast paced defenders, I don't know any up and coming defender, you have basically canceled out upamecano, sule isn't good enough based on what I have heard, I hope he figures that part out cause that's the only section that needs urgent attention.

popizaino:



You are just trying to look for something to cover your earlier mess of not placing Marcelo among real Madrid world class player cus I dont understand this excuse of defensive liability. If I ask you to show me were and how this defensive liability has cost real Madrid now you will begin stutter. Need I tell you a certain jose Mourinho once preferred a certain contrao without defensive liability than Marcelo and you know how it ended.


Now watch this video and tell me why Sergio Ramos didnt cover for contrao the way he use to do for Marcelo when contrao hot dribbled by lahm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnUhehOr1wk

Cover mess from who exactly? You?

I have no business with Contrao. My point remains that Marcelo is a liability to his fellow defenders. We’ve watched him get trashed and countlessly flopped with Brazil shirt because he had no multitasking defender like Ramos to cover his defensive a$$.

Without Ramos, the defensive uselessness of Marcelo and Varane would have shown well for people to see. He’s not a complete left back.

Na to dey do leg over dey cross ball for Benzema and Ronaldo be only work of a left back?

Alaba remains the most complete left back atleast for the past 10 years. You’ll even be surprised to know that Alaba MIGHT have more goals than him with lesser appearances.

popizaino:




Italy changed their world cup winning magers and did not well in the subsequent competition

Others didn't change their world cup managers and went on well to do well in the next competition.

Italy missed their key player in Pirlo and Gattuso which also contributed to their exit to spain

Others teams didn't miss any key player .[b]if you dont see the pattern in this [/b]then I cant help you again .

The only pattern I'm seeing is excuses. Finish!

I can as well say France decided to change their key player in Giroud reason why they crashed out early

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BE SCARED!!!

donstan18:

Rudiger can’t operate well without a good partnering leader.

German defense had brainfarts all tournament.. it was just a matter of when..

Dost42:

German defense had brainfarts all tournament.. it was just a matter of when..

Led by Hummels

Dost42:

German defense had brainfarts all tournament.. it was just a matter of when..

it's England defense with stones that is bearly awake or Maguire that is a big headed inbred retardddd

Abeg make I hear word

donstan18:

Rudiger can’t operate well without a good partnering leader.

The akpola shoed niqqa ran out of his position, tried to drag Sterling and when he lost him, he just stood at a place forgetting his position is open.


Ahh, see our top defender father lord.

Dost42:

German defense had brainfarts all tournament.. it was just a matter of when..

Imagine conceding seven goals in 4 games.

Too bad.

Immediately I saw Hummels partnering with Rudiger, I knew they’ll be shiit.

Hummels isn’t the kind of partner Rudiger can excel with, he lacks what Rudiger lack. Composure, leadership and intelligence.

The likes of Puyol, VVD, Thiago, Terry and Kompany are the kind of partners that can make Rudiger look like a world class player, not hummels wey no sabi en left from en right.

Skimpledawg:

The akpola shoed niqqa ran out of his position, tried to drag Sterling and when he lost him, he just stood at a place forgetting his position is open.


Ahh, see our top defender father lord.

Rudiger became good after the introduction of 3 center backs and Thiago Silva.

A clear sign that he can’t operate alone. He needs an experienced defender to play with.

Havertz10:
moukoko is another fine player, have been looking for him on FM can't find him, hopefully hansi flick will do a good job with the team, I noticed that he plays a very high line and will need fast paced defenders, I don't know any up and coming defender, you have basically canceled out upamecano, sule isn't good enough based on what I have heard, I hope he figures that part out cause that's the only section that needs urgent attention.

There are no really great defenders and Flicks tactics is to reduce the number of time opponent get to your defence by maintaining a very high line and pressuring them into mistakes Flick played Alaba as CB for most of his Bayern time, I think he can manage Sule, Rudiger, Baku as RB and Gosens as LB though both full backs are too attacking and best suited for a wing back role.

Felix Udokhai is also an interesting defender

Don't forget Germany U21 just won the European U21 tournament

Jodera:
The only pattern I'm seeing is excuses. Finish!

I can as well say France decided to change their key player in Giroud reason why they crashed out early

If france changed their key player did they changed their coach ? You cant make this things up

donstan18:

Imagine conceding seven goals in 4 games.

Too bad.

Immediately I saw Hummels partnering with Rudiger, I knew they’ll be shiit.

The likes of Puyol, VVD, Thiago, Terry and Kompany are the kind of partners that can make Rudiger look like a world class player, not hummels wey no sabi en left from en right.

I agree with the bold above

Hummels isn’t the kind of partner Rudiger can excel with, he lacks what Rudiger lack. Composure, leadership and intelligence.

I disagree with this part. Rudiger has pace and energy which neds to be molded

Hummels lacks pace, he gambles a lot trying to stop attacks early and leaves his base open, he never perfected the act of defending as he has always been a liability in defence

When they played the European U21 in 2009, While Boatank and Howedes played Central Defence, Hummels was played in midfield as a DM because he was too "as the spirit leads" in football, You can get away with such in the midfield but in defence where it's about positioning, pace discipline and moving in sync, he always fails. He has a few Hollywood pass that gets fickle followers

his lack of pace showed early in his career was why he was shoehorned into defence. He failed to make first team at Bayern when Badstuber was chosen ahead of him and Boateng was bought while Hummels was sent to midtable Dortmund

At Dortmund, he had a traditional defender in Subotic beside him who covered his numerous errors

Bayern fell for it, bought Hummels back and within 3yrs sent him packing

Think about it, Bayern has a German player in their academy, sold him, bought him back and sold him again within 3 seasons. That enough will tell you he is damaged goods

The problem is when you have Hummels as a senior guy making elementary errors, is it Rudiger and Ginter that will be correcting him?
e.g If Ramos is messing up, Is it Militao or Varane tht will be correcting him. Or if Terry is messing up, will it be David Luiz or Cahill correcting him?

In that case you will just hope he gets injured or doesnt start so you dont have to deal with a senior player who doesnt know the basics

raumdeuter:

I agree with the bold above



I disagree with this part. Rudiger has pace and energy which neds to be molded

Hummels lacks pace, he gambles a lot trying to stop attacks early and leaves his base open, he never perfected the act of defending as he has always been a liability in defence

When they played the European U21 in 2009, While Boatank and Howedes played Cebtral Defence, Hummels was played in midfield as a DM because he was too "as the spirit leads" in football, You can get away with such in the midfield but in defence where it's about positioning, pace discipline and moving in sync, he always fails.

his lack of pace showed early in his career was why he was shoehorned into defence. He failed to make first team at Bayern when Badstuber was chosen ahead of him and Boateng was bought while Hummels was sent to midtable Dortmund

At Dortmund, he had a traditional defender in Subotic beside him who covered his numerous errors

Bayern fell for it, bought Hummels back and within 3yrs sent him packing

Think about it, Bayern has a German player in their academy, sold him, bought him back and sold him again within 3 seasons. That enough will tell you he is damaged goods

The problem is when you have Hummels as a senior guy making elementary errors, is it Rudiger and Ginter that will be correcting him?
e.g If Ramos is messing up, Is it Militao or Varane tht will be correcting him

We are saying the same thing about Rudiger and the fact he was paired with Hummels who isn’t intelligent and a good leader.

Rudiger has the power and pace, but he’s not experienced and intelligent enough to go solo when his partner is shiit.

We watched Rudiger with Zouma, with Luiz, with Chris and with Hummels. He was shiit with these players because he’s a combat player and it’s difficult to see combat players with good football IQ[Ramos excluded]. They’ll always need experienced players with good football IQ.

Rudiger became good and very influential when Thiago got introduced to that defense, he became good when TT introduced 5 defensive players, if not six[Kante included].

Hummels isn’t the kind of player you can pair with a combat defender because he’s careless and not intelligent, he’s not even the kind of player you can put in front of your keeper because he can trap a ball, turn around and blast his keeper with a powerful shot. He no get sense.

Havertz10:
moukoko is another fine player, have been looking for him on FM can't find him, hopefully hansi flick will do a good job with the team, I noticed that he plays a very high line and will need fast paced defenders, I don't know any up and coming defender, you have basically canceled out upamecano, sule isn't good enough based on what I have heard, I hope he figures that part out cause that's the only section that needs urgent attention.

Upamecano is good with carrying the ball from defence and breaking the first press, but when it comes to real defending, he has been found wanting

Go see wetin Haaland take him eye see some months back, Haaland first crossed his legs, later when he got to the box, he tried to use muscle for Haaland but Halland gave him body back

donstan18:

Imagine conceding seven goals in 4 games.

Too bad.

Immediately I saw Hummels partnering with Rudiger, I knew they’ll be shiit.

Hummels isn’t the kind of partner Rudiger can excel with, he lacks what Rudiger lack. Composure, leadership and intelligence.

The likes of Puyol, VVD, Thiago, Terry and Kompany are the kind of partners that can make Rudiger look like a world class player, not hummels wey no sabi en left from en right.

Its obvious Hummels isnt a leader, then rudiger & ginter..obvious 3sheeps..then starting them again after conceding against Hungary..I'd blame low

Havertz10:
it's England defense with stones that is bearly awake or Maguire that is a big headed inbred retardddd

Abeg make I hear word

Your bias against England..

raumdeuter:


Upamecano is good with carrying the ball from defence and breaking the first press, but when it comes to real defending, he has been found wanting

Go see wetin Haaland take him eye see some months back, Haaland first crossed his legs, later when he got to the box, he tried to use muscle for Haaland but Halland gave him body back

I haven't watched him play that much, assumed that he was good, pundits called Bayern signing of upamecano a coup, nagelman knows him, he will find a compatible partner for him

I hope Chelsea signs haaland, we can pay down to collect next year, that guy is ready made for the premier league

donstan18:

We are saying the same thing about Rudiger and the fact he was paired with Hummels who isn’t intelligent and a good leader.

Rudiger has the power and pace, but he’s not experienced and intelligent enough to go solo when his partner is shiit.

We watched Rudiger with Zouma, with Luiz, with Chris and with Hummels. He was shiit with these players because he’s a combat player and it’s difficult to see combat players with good football IQ[Ramos excluded]. They’ll always need experienced players with good football IQ.

Rudiger became good and very influential when Thiago got introduced to that defense, he became good when TT introduced 5 defensive players, if not six[Kante included].

Hummels isn’t the kind of player you can pair with a combat defender because he’s careless and not intelligent, he’s not even the kind of player you can put in front of your keeper because he can trap a ball, turn around and blast his keeper with a powerful shot. He no get sense.

this is too much, that's a starting defender for club and country

Gab marcotti said that hummels is a defender with good defensive qualities but a generally poor defender

Havertz10:
this is too much, that's a starting defender for club and country

Gab marcotti said that hummels is a defender with good defensive qualities but a generally poor defender

I don’t rate him.

He’s not reliable. He’s starting for Germany because they lack good center backs.

popizaino:


If france changed their key player did they changed their coach ? You cant make this things up

The thing is that they changed the very key player that was both instrumental in their euro2016 final run and WC 2018 win.

Just that singular act made them to crash in the next competition early. You can't make this up

donstan18:

I don’t rate him.

He’s not reliable. He’s starting for Germany because they lack good center backs.

Whether Hummels is good or not, is not my concern. All i know is that Hummels >>>>>>>>> calamitous Boathand.

Hummels don finish long, long time ago. I was a big Hummels fan back then and know that shortly after 2014 most of the quality left his game.

Na 3 man defence even save Germany small. Play Hummels in a 2 man central defence against quality opposition and you are likely to concede goals in bunches.

Ibime:


Swap Fernandes with Sancho

Mugabe was a comic

airmark:


Whether Hummels is good or not, is not my concern. All i know is that Hummels >>>>>>>>> calamitous Boathand.

Boateng played at Bayern for almost 10yrs
Hummels a Bayern youth product was sent away, bought back and expelled again within 3 yrs at his prime
E get reason

raumdeuter:


Boateng played at Bayern for almost 10yrs
Hummels a Bayern youth product was sent away, bought back and expelled again within 3 yrs at his prime
E get reason

There is a reason Boathand was sacked by Bayern and German national team and he is clubless this moment.