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Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by Christistruth00: 6:11pm On Jul 02, 2021
Kagd10:


You dunno anything. History has it that Afonja was reprimanded by the Oyo empire hence why he went out of his ways to seek for Fulani charms because he had probably thought he was doomed after Oyo empire reprimanded him. Alimi was the said Fulani man he brought in. After a while, Alimi started bringing in more of his Useless Fulani men who went around preaching Uselesss religious stuffs to the Yoruba people of Ilorin. These men also became unlawful and wouldn't obey Afonja. When Afonja thought he's had enough of their trouble and had wanted to send them packing, the deceitful Fulani met with the brainwashed Yoruba and overthrown Afonja under the guise that he wasn't holy bla bla bla and appointed a Fulani man. That was what happened! Why did you think Afonja cursed the people of Ilorin?

Personally, I feel until the emir is removed from Ilorin, only then they will break the curse!

The ruler of Ilorin when the British arrived was a Yoruba man Called Balogun Alanamu .

The last Emir Momoh had been defeated by the Yoruba Chiefs and had burnt himself alive inside his Palace

Ilorin has Fulani Presence only because the British reimposed the defeated Emir on Ilorin around 1897

Before that balogun Yoruba (Inakoju alanamu) was the actual ruler of Ilorin.

The Emir had been deposed by the Ilorin Yoruba Chiefs before the British arrived.

balogun alanamu fought the British and was exiled to Jebba after the British defeated him.

It was the British that reinstaled an Emir in Ilorin after the defeat of balogun Yoruba Inakoju alanamu due to Political Pressure from Northern Emirs .

The Emir of Ilorin had been defeated and deposed by the Ilorin Yoruba Chiefs before the British arrived.

The British left at Independence after an agreement was made to have a referendum Kwara State.

The Post independence Government of Balewa and Azikiwe frustrated that referendum by not carrying out the Kwara referendum which should have happened at the same time as the Midwest referendum in order to cripple Awolowo and his Party Politically after Awolowo had been jailed in 1962

Balewa and Azikiwe also didn't Carry out the other referendums agreed with the British before independence meant for the Eastern and Northern Minority Ethnic groups.

Ilorin still has an Emir because of Colonial and Tribal Politics

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Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by Penguin2: 8:53pm On Jul 02, 2021
Vado:


It's way complex than it seems. First of, some Yorubas have been made subservient yo the caliphate. The Fulanis always use Islam as a tool of conquest but Yoruba Muslims like Ishaq Akintola of MURIC are comfortable with that. It will definitely backfire as it did with Solagberu whom invited Alimi to Ilorin on the sanction of Afonja. All were slain and consumed in the end. I'm a Christian and in Yorubaland today, I will advise my fellow Christians to pursue economic power. It's the most important for now. Build one's wealth. Regrets await Gambari slaves.

The simple truth is that Illorin is gone.
Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by EmekaA125(m): 9:07pm On Jul 02, 2021
Juliusmalema:
What is wrong installing Hausa leader in Jebba?

Court should throw out such ridiculous appeal.

Emir of Ilorin has full right to install and preside over any affairs in Ilorin or kwara state precisely.
Why would Emir of Ilorin install Hausa leader in Jebba when the said town is under the kingship of Oba??

Oba of Jebba reserves right to control whatever happens within his kingdom.

Without mincing words, Emir of Ilorin got it wrong here.
Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by EmekaA125(m): 9:10pm On Jul 02, 2021
Kagd10:


Even in Ilorin sef. It's the people who put the emir in power, just like how the British were ruling Nigeria until we said no more! The people of Nigerians didn't turn to British nor the land turn to British state just because the British was ruling it. That's the same in Ilorin. It's the Yoruba people who appointed the emir!
Hmmmmm. Okay
Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by chrisxxx(m): 9:31pm On Jul 02, 2021
Kagd10:


You dunno anything. History has it that Afonja was reprimanded by the Oyo empire hence why he went out of his ways to seek for Fulani charms because he had probably thought he was doomed after Oyo empire reprimanded him. Alimi was the said Fulani man he brought in. After a while, Alimi started bringing in more of his Useless Fulani men who went around preaching Uselesss religious stuffs to the Yoruba people of Ilorin. These men also became unlawful and wouldn't obey Afonja. When Afonja thought he's had enough of their trouble and had wanted to send them packing, the deceitful Fulani met with the brainwashed Yoruba and overthrown Afonja under the guise that he wasn't holy bla bla bla and appointed a Fulani man. That was what happened! Why did you think Afonja cursed the people of Ilorin?

Personally, I feel until the emir is removed from Ilorin, only then they will break the curse!
You don't need to start with insults. You could respectfully defer from my postulation.
If you read what I said and compare with whàt you said you will see they have a lot in common. Afonja relied on the Fulanis because he feared Yorubas would betray him. At the he got betrayed by the two parties and unfortunately by the Fulanis he most trusted.
Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by Kagd10: 10:02pm On Jul 02, 2021
chrisxxx:

You don't need to start with insults. You could respectfully defer from my postulation.
If you read what I said and compare with whàt you said you will see they have a lot in common. Afonja relied on the Fulanis because he feared Yorubas would betray him. At the he got betrayed by the two parties and unfortunately by the Fulanis he most trusted.

You were posing as if you know Yoruba's history which you don't.

Nah. He didn't fear the Yorubas would betray him. He was just too stubborn and cut off from Oyo empire because the king had reprimanded him hence the Oyo empire who could have assisted him left him to his foolery. It was the foolish Ilorin people who joined hands with the Fulani to dethrone Afonja and that was why he cursed the people of Ilorin. Well, he brought in the Useless Fulani in the first place.
Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by OBALOLA55(m): 10:09pm On Jul 02, 2021
Penguin2:


So are you from Onitsha?
JULIUSMALEMA IS A FULANI MAN

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Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by chrisxxx(m): 10:35pm On Jul 02, 2021
Kagd10:


You were posing as if you know Yoruba's history which you don't.

Nah. He didn't fear the Yorubas would betray him. He was just too stubborn and cut off from Oyo empire because the king had reprimanded him hence the Oyo empire who could have assisted him left him to his foolery. It was the foolish Ilorin people who joined hands with the Fulani to dethrone Afonja and that was why he cursed the people of Ilorin. Well, he brought in the Useless Fulani in the first place.
There is no difference in what you have said and what I did.
He was betrayed by Yorubas and Fulanis he surrounded himself with.
Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by Penguin2: 10:36pm On Jul 02, 2021
OBALOLA55:
JULIUSMALEMA IS A FULANI MAN

I’ve always suspected
Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by Kagd10: 10:36am On Jul 03, 2021
chrisxxx:

There is no difference in what you have said and what I did.
He was betrayed by Yorubas and Fulanis he surrounded himself with.

You were insinuating that Fulani conquered Ilorin which is a lie. Fulani couldn't even conquer jebba close to Ilorin sef. I mean there's lot of space between Ilorin and the North sef. It was the Yoruba in Ilorin who had enabled the Fulani. And when they're ready to get them out, they know what to do. Go to Ilorin and you will realise it's a Yoruba land. Everywhere looks like Yoruba. They speak Yoruba too.

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Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by chrisxxx(m): 7:14pm On Jul 03, 2021
Kagd10:


You were insinuating that Fulani conquered Ilorin which is a lie. Fulani couldn't even conquer jebba close to Ilorin sef. I mean there's lot of space between Ilorin and the North sef. It was the Yoruba in Ilorin who had enabled the Fulani. And when they're ready to get them out, they know what to do. Go to Ilorin and you will realise it's a Yoruba land. Everywhere looks like Yoruba. They speak Yoruba too.
I don't need to go to Ilorin. I told you I was born in Ilorin and was fortunate to have served in Ilorin.
Ilorin is a complete Yoruba town. Having Fulani as the head of the town is a sign of conquest.
Re: Kwara Monarch Sues Ilorin Emir For Installing Hausa Leader In Jebba by Kagd10: 9:28pm On Jul 03, 2021
chrisxxx:

I don't need to go to Ilorin. I told you I was born in Ilorin and was fortunate to have served in Ilorin.
Ilorin is a complete Yoruba town. Having Fulani as the head of the town is a sign of conquest.

That's not conquest! You dey ment? It's a Yoruba land. It was the Yoruba who appointed the Fulani man. The neighboring communities around Ilorin in other states, apart from Kwara state are not even Fulani communities, so what's the nonsense you're spewing? How did Fulani jump these communities into Ilorin? It was the Yorubas who brought them in the first place. It was the Yorubas who dethroned Afonja and made the Fulani an emir. When they're ready to get the Fulani off, they know what to do.

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