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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by tolops1: 2:02pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
Yes, it's genuine We got our visas exactly 3 months after we applied 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Geenosko: 4:19pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
Lionessza6: Your sense of humor 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by madejibo: 5:02pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
Lionessza6: Yes I am Nigerian 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 9:23am On Jul 06, 2021 |
madejibo: I took my time to go through your comments on South African topics,and I must say you're an objective person ( very refreshing for a Nigerian). I like that you don't defend your people's crap in South Africa, and you also don't take the accusations against Nigerians without shining the spotlight on the incompetence of the South African SAPS. If people like you would lead organisations like the Africa diaspora, the tension between the two nations would be resolved in no time or atleast there would be better understanding and working relations( my belief). 3 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by stbenedictus: 9:42am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 9:53am On Jul 06, 2021 |
lymelyte: LMFAO, this has to be one of the most revealing comments of the Nigerian psyche . So stealing from gullible,unsuspecting people is regarded as hardwork in Nigeria? . Are the cultists and bandits who are robbing and killing people in Nigeria also regarded as hardworkers ? or is it that as soon as you guys enter a plane to another nation you forget all about these petty armed robbers and kidnappers ?. Btw, I'm not against migrants criticising SA ,but when one critics and compares they must not only look at their host nation's issues but the issues back home ,so to not sound biased and pompous. Generally lazy, yet the very South Africans are the ones who make South Africa attractive to outsiders ; civil servants and those working in the private sector ( both paying taxes to make sure almost everyone goes to bed with a full stomach ,and enjoys improved standards of living )? If then these people are lazy ,then what do we call Nigerians who can barely run a department without fleecing their own people? There was recently a protest here in SA at the Nigerian embassy, Nigerians were complaining of the " hardwork" of their own officials, not officials in Nigeria...nope! Right here in Mzansi . So I wonder what it is you guys mean by " hardwork " when almost every indice that should vindicate this claim speaks against it. I notice in another comment you also claimed Americans and the Brits are also lazy ,so how come "hardworkers "are migrating to countries worked for by lazy people instead fixing Nigeria ? This is no insult ,but a curious question? 5 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Splendor1: 9:57am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Congratulations. We're you able to track your application correctly? I applied May 11th for an exam mid- August and the vfs tracking is still saying under assessment. Is there any way to hasten the turn around time? tolops1: |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by tolops1: 10:09am On Jul 06, 2021 |
There's no way to hasten it up You only wait prayerfully and patiently You can also email them frequently |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Geenosko: 10:52am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Guys Lionessza6 is savage o and very good at articulating her points. Just allow her be in her lane 2 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 11:22am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Geenosko: Lol,I'll let you guys be, but I just wanted to shine the spotlight on some of the issues that make Nigerians "undesirables "in South Africa; like the sweeping statement from lymeltye " generally lazy". Brainless statements like that are a trigger ,especially when you look at Nigeria ( where the hardwork of Nigerians as a collective should be visible). Criticising South Africa is not an issue,as we are a developing country with developing problems ,but what we hate is when people who ran away from their own problems come here to enjoy our sweat and then turn around and defecate at all of us because of their experiences with criminals around them. Funny enough, the same people would cry foul when every Nigerian is called a thug and a hooker because of what people see in the city centres . Let's all try and be civil ,that takes nothing from anyone ,because if you try to be savage with others, they will give that back . The end!. 2 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hopcious: 11:30am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Geenosko: It's actually not about being a savage, it is about being objective in your views and opinion about others. Most of the Nigerians making negative comments about how SAns do commit the fallacy of hasty generalisation which they do not want non-Nigerians to use on them also (by saying all Nigerians are fraudsters). Just because a percentage of the populace is doing something wrong does not justify you concluding that the whole populace is bad. People can go on to say there are SAns who commit crimes on daily basis or have xenophobic tendencies but that does not equally project all SAns to be like that. The same goes for Nigerians both home and abroad. We all need to get to that point where we don't generalise based on our myopic view of the people of a country. These are the things that divide us as Africans and like a South African saying in Tshivenda that “Muthu ndi muthu mga vhanwe vhathu” and in Sepedi as "Motho ke Motho ka Batho Babang" translated literally as "A person is a person because of others". If you can generalise because of the crimes of some people, you should be able to generalise also because of the good of some people. 3 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Splendor1: 11:37am On Jul 06, 2021 |
tolops1post=103419829:Thank you. I will take the email route. How frequently should I do this? Is daily a good idea? |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Geenosko: 11:59am On Jul 06, 2021 |
hopcious: Yeah hence I added articulate too. Shes very objective |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 12:08pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
hopcious: are you a South African, if not where how did you learn those term;the Venda and Pedi phrases? I like your submission anyways . Have you noticed the posture of South Africans living in Nigeria vs the posture of Nigerians living in South Africa?. You will never see South Africans in Nigeria on YouTube or social media going on about the weaknesses of the Nigerian society, Never seen it( if any of you have ,please post it here). Do you think they don't experience the ineptitude and see the reckless behaviour of some Nigerians over there ? They do ,but they're too focused on what they're there for ,and they choose to live among Nigerians who value their presence there not the riffraff of society . Even if there are Nigerians who despise South Africans because of the xenophobic news they hear coming from South Africa, they cant easily attack South Africans because South Africans don't give them any reason or excuse to do so as they are there legally and not causing any disturbances or committing crime and then claiming...." well Nigerians kidnap, rape and steal too ,so why cant we do it" . If you go to a country for legitimate reasons, you study it before ; the culture ,potential language barriers, what triggers the local population ,where you can live among like- minded people etc. And always have it at the back of your mind that nowhere is heaven; you're exchanging the problems of your own society for new ones . And that the host nation doesn't owe you a cookie ,and if you provoke them ,you will be the one living a hellish existence. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by oyoalaafin1: 1:55pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
I submitted my application my Tourist Visa application on 24th March 2021, I haven't heard from the VFS till now. I will like to know if anybody who submited around this period as received their Visa. Its over 3month now. Response needed pls Thanks. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by tannystacey: 3:48pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
Omo this is a visa / travel inquiry page o. All dis shalaye is not needed. I've lived around SA to know the truth. 5 years and counting. Know this : An average south african will defend their country against all odds, whether for a reasonable reason or not. If its a black versus white scenario, hands down you can expect a bit of objectivity. But black pple? Be ready to keep quiet or come with facts. Else you will collect dragging o because... I come in peace but if anyone needs vayolence, i cannot acknowledge it. T for tenks. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 4:25pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
tannystacey: Ofcourse this is a visa/ travel thread,but when Nigerians voice out their personal opinions about their host community ,the host community should be given a chance to respond too,no ? . Don't know what to make out of the rest of your post ,didn't really understand it. Anyways, I found the attached on one of your posts . It would probably explain a lot ,afterall you're the same person who equates sexual harassment on some random street by total strangers to sexual harassment by a person put in a position of power that you interact with on a daily basis ........but then again you cant expect logic from a Nigerian when a white face is involved ....they can do no wrong ,the black race is the problem...and whitey should get away with everything . Had the man been a black South African we all know what your reaction would have been . It would be hard taking you seriously after reading that, and I hope for your sake you only surround yourself with onyibos ,otherwise you must be one miserable woman with all the black South Africans around you ....and Unfortunately for you, they ain't going nowhere,you brought yourself here ,you must take yourself out I came to piss too ,no violence unless you start it . 1 Like
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by KazikageSama: 4:46pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
The gbas-gbos happening here today is out of my league. Lemme just be reading comments in peace. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 4:53pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
KazikageSama: You're free to voice out your own opinion, you live in South Africa, but you must also be open to receive counters as well. That's how people learn and grow,and this will also help your people who have an interest in visiting South Africa, one sided narratives must come to an end though. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by madejibo: 5:30pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
This is a visa section for people with genuine intentions of going to SA, it is not supposed to talk about the Xenophobia in SA, but if I may add, the average South African has this attitude towards foreigners but honestly if you are high up you don't notice them. Like you are in school, work place in good areas, etc. A couple was in Dischem pharmacy in Midrand, the woman is South African but born and raised in the UK, the man was Nigerian, so the couple were only speaking English, they wanted to buy drugs for their sick child, so the dispenser not knowing the woman understands Zulu spoke to her colleague that "their child would die anyway ". The woman was raving mad. How can a woman wish another woman to lose a child. We see these things daily, but we ignore because sometimes they wish they are us. Like I said earlier don't give them the ammunition to attack you. Have genuine intentions and you will be fine. Stay on your lane, don't go after jobs that the locals want. My piece 2 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 5:38pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
madejibo: @ the 1st bolded, if the story is true,the woman was mean ,are there no mean cashiers and servants in Nigeria? And how did the couple know that she was mean to them because they were foreigners, do they know how she behaves when dealing with other groups who go to the store ,and what did they do about this ? who wishes they were Nigerian ? And how did you come to this conclusion? Most of what you said ,I agree with . As for the attitude, the same can be said about foreigners too with their entitlement mentality in a foreign country. It goes both ways ,and there are valid reasons for that. And South Africans used to be tolerant and let things slide for too long ,hence foreigners especially your people saw this as a weakness and awakened the beast in many of us ,and now everywhere you go you are treated with suspicion and complete disdain in some cases. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by madejibo: 5:49pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
Lionessza6: Well the woman mentioned foreigner in Zulu cos the ID that was presented was the man's Nigerian passport, even while apologising the dispenser told the woman that she thought it was these "fraudulent Nigerians " When I said they wished they were us, I meant the not so enlightened south African who sees the foreigner in schools or doing well. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 5:59pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
madejibo: Well ,I can't say that's not possible because truly it has become very hard for most South Africans to take Nigerians seriously or treat them with respect ,mostly thanks to how they usually portray themselves. When you deal with them you already have an attitude, and it's unfortunate, but judging from this thread and this forum at large it goes both ways. The only difference is that South Africans don't go to Nigeria to live among the less- diplomatic of the populace . South Africa is a big country with many surbubs, so I don't understand why Nigerians mostly live with the underprivileged people ,why can't they live where the most enlightened South Africans live ,could it be self- esteem issues perhaps? . For instance South Africans in Nigeria hardly ever interact with the poor ,you only find them in places where their mates live ; Lekki, Banana Island and such , this is to avoid any sort of " jealousy " that might arise . Perhaps the Nigerians in South Africa should try this as well. My 2cents . |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by KazikageSama: 6:20pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
Lionessza6: I don't know if you took some extensive survey to draw out this conclusion or maybe there is a data sheet somewhere that affirms it but the bolded statement is very generic and from the little I have experienced, it's not very correct. Let's be careful of unproven statements please, they usually throw bias into otherwise good arguments. 2 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 6:26pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
KazikageSama: Do most Nigerians not live in places like Parklands in Cape town, Sunnyside in Tshwane, CBD in Gqeberha/ PE, Hillbrow & Yeoville in Jozi ? . Those arent suburbs, most people living there are students from poor backgrounds, cashiers sharing a room , job seekers from villages etc. How come we see less of them in the surbubs vs the broken -down neighbourhoods?. We are not talking about exceptions here ,yes we have Nigerians in Sandton, Midrand, fourways etc, but compared to the ghetto ones filled with struggling locals and other poor foreigners? |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by KazikageSama: 6:38pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
Lionessza6: I sincerely do not have data for "most" Nigerians but from my little experience, that statement is not correct. I have quite a few Nigerian friends in SA (I actually suspect I know more Nigerians in SA than you do unless you know more than 30 then I give up ) and none of us live in 'broken-down neighborhoods' and yeah, we are very average Nigerians in the Tech Industry. Maybe just a couple of dudes I'd consider rich. Unless you consider places like Sandton, Edenvale, GreenStone hill in J'borg and Woodstock in CapeTown broken down areas. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 6:44pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
KazikageSama: I think you replied before you saw that I added the last part ,view again . I said ,there are exceptions but we both know that most Nigerians living in South Africa don't live in those places ,and even some of those who arrive in South Africa to live there, they usually end up vacating those spaces for the usual places in no time . Go to hillbrow and Sunnyside and compare the population of Nigerians there to the ones in Sandton . Perhaps, you only live around those places and don't bother moving around the CBDs. Kempton park would shock you . |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by KazikageSama: 6:55pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
Lionessza6: Even in Nigeria there are places we avoid going to . From what I've read, most countries have places like those also. Not to lose focus of the point though, my objection was based on the generic statement you made that "South Africa is a big country with many surbubs, so I don't understand why Nigerians mostly live with the underprivileged people ,why can't they live where the most enlightened South Africans live ,could it be self- esteem issues perhaps?". Unless you have some substantial data to back that up or you conducted some verification exercise, I believe that statement isn't correct. That's said life is about personal perspectives and unfortunately those perspectives form individual realities. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Lionessza6(f): 7:11pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
KazikageSama: @the bolded ,so true. The only issue pertaining to this discussion is foreigners(Nigerians)taking a plane from one corner of the continent only to go and live in such places ,and then turn around and hype themselves as some sort of achievers by comparing themselves to the poor . We never see them in the surbubs feeling hyper though . Common sense and travelling around the country will tell you that Nigerians mostly live in such places ,that's why they even embarrassed themselves in PTA by petitioning the government to name Sunnyside "little Lagos " . That's because of the number of them living there, can they do that in Greenstone ,sunninghill ,Melrose etc.? . No ,they dont have such numbers there . I'd advise you to stop sticking to the Northern part of Jozi alone, move around and you will get a better understanding of why your people are hated here . Visit kempton park & Germiston CBD's. And then go to Hillbrow and it's surroundings ,you will meet an overwhelming number of your brothers there doing their thing . Correct.
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by RENOWNED2(m): 7:52pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
What are you all looking for in south Africa?? Work dey there?? I'm seriously confused. Maybe it's a tourist visa, then fair play as I hear south Africa is beautiful, if not......... |
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