OkCornel:


I have this regurgitated illustration from modalists all the time.

In other words, the head of Christ is no longer God then, if it’s the same being that is the Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

That means Paul didn’t know what he was saying in 1 Corinthians 11 v 3;

“But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God

Why did you think Jesus felt the need to explain in John 14 v 23-26 that him, the Father and the Holy Spirit will come to dwell in a believer of these three are a single being?

You ask
Why did you think Jesus felt the need to explain in John 14 v 23-26 that him, the Father and the Holy Spirit will come to dwell in a believer of these three are a single being

It simply saying God will come and stay with the believer

Bishopkingsley:


You ask
Why did you think Jesus felt the need to explain in John 14 v 23-26 that him, the Father and the Holy Spirit will come to dwell in a believer of these three are a single being

It simply saying God will come and stay with the believer

Another facepalm. Even a legion of demons possessed a human being, can we on that basis also assume a legion of demons is a literal demon?

This assumption of yours goes against reason o

OkCornel:


First off, you told us God entered Mary, died and later became the Holy Spirit.

You claimed God is one being manifesting Himself as the Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit has been in the scene from the time of creation way before even the Son of God was born of Mary.

The Spirit of God hovered upon the waters before creation. The Holy Spirit filled a prophet Simeon that he boldly declared the purpose of Jesus when his mother Mary dedicated him at the temple (somewhere in Luke 1)

The Holy Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted by Satan in Matthew 4 v 1

The Holy Spirit, a distinct member of the God head descended on the Son in the likeness of a dove when he was baptised at the river Jordan.

The Son of God promised the Advocate (Holy Spirit) when he returns to the Father in John 14 v 23-26.


So how can believers read this distinction between the Holy Spirit and the Son and still go against our God given reason and understanding to believe in a heretic modalistic doctrine?

My next post is on the distinction between the Son and the Father.

First off, you told us God entered Mary, died and later became the Holy Spirit.

What I mean from above is when Jesus died the third person to appear to continue the work of God on earth was the holy spirit

Am sorry If I sounded like Jesus turned to holy spirit

OkCornel:


Another facepalm. Even a legion of demons possessed a human being, can we on that basis also assume a legion of demons is a literal demon?

This assumption of yours goes against reason o

My brother read that part well even though the man had many demons in him yet only one of the demon the head was the one talking and he identified his name that many are with him in the Man


Imagine if all the legion of demons were taking at the same time will u be able to hear all of them at once

You claimed God is one being manifesting Himself as the Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

Correct

The Holy Spirit has been in the scene from the time of creation way before even the Son of God was born of Mary.

Yes and wrong

The father the son the holy spirit has always been

OkCornel:


First off, you told us God entered Mary, died and later became the Holy Spirit.

You claimed God is one being manifesting Himself as the Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit has been in the scene from the time of creation way before even the Son of God was born of Mary.

The Spirit of God hovered upon the waters before creation. The Holy Spirit filled a prophet Simeon that he boldly declared the purpose of Jesus when his mother Mary dedicated him at the temple (somewhere in Luke 1)

The Holy Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted by Satan in Matthew 4 v 1

The Holy Spirit, a distinct member of the God head descended on the Son in the likeness of a dove when he was baptised at the river Jordan.

The Son of God promised the Advocate (Holy Spirit) when he returns to the Father in John 14 v 23-26.


So how can believers read this distinction between the Holy Spirit and the Son and still go against our God given reason and understanding to believe in a heretic modalistic doctrine?

My next post is on the distinction between the Son and the Father.

Following on from this post is the distinction between the Son and the Father;

We can see numerous examples of this distinction in the scriptures and this is better explained by the prophets David & Daniel.

In Daniel 7 v 12-13, we see the son of man approach the ancient of days (The Father) to receive dominion and power.

David saw something similar too, more than one being in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-45 where the LORD (Yahweh) said unto my Lord (Yeshua or Jesus) sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool.

It would go against reason and even border on outright lies to claim Daniel and David saw one literal being in their visions.

The Father spoke on the day the Son was baptised at the Jordan “this is my Son in whom I’m well pleased”

The Father sent the son to die for the sins of man - John 3 v 16.

Jesus cried out to the Father when he was crucified.

Only the Father knows when the appointed time for the return of Christ would be! Even Jesus doesn’t know! Matthew 24 v 36.

If we can see these clear distinction between the Father and the Son, why do we have to believe the modalistic heresy that they are one being? It goes against God given reason.

Dear Bishopkingsley,

Does Jesus know the day and hour he will return?

Bishopkingsley:
The Holy Spirit has been in the scene from the time of creation way before even the Son of God was born of Mary.

Yes and wrong

The father the son the holy spirit has always been

Just to clarify

Look at what I said there about the son. Before he was born of Mary “on this earth” the Holy Spirit has always been.

The son too existed before that, and I’ve made that clear multiple times through David and Daniel’s visions

You say...
So how can believers read this distinction between the Holy Spirit and the Son and still go against our God given reason and understanding to believe in a heretic modalistic doctrine?

No one is doing heretic

Notice Jesus said am doing the works of him that sent me

The person doing it is Jesus but the works itself is the fathers works

Does that not teach you something

Bishopkingsley:


My brother read that part well even though the man had many demons in him yet only one of the demon the head was the one talking and he identified his name that many are with him in the Man


Imagine if all the legion of demons were taking at the same time will u be able to hear all of them at once

That is not the point, I’m talking of the literal number of Spirit beings that can dwell in a man.

You initially mentioned the Father, Son & Holy Spirit can dwell in a believer because they are one being, so I asked you if the same logic applies to a legion of demons.

Bishopkingsley:
You say...
So how can believers read this distinction between the Holy Spirit and the Son and still go against our God given reason and understanding to believe in a heretic modalistic doctrine?

No one is doing heretic

Notice Jesus said am doing the works of him that sent me

The person doing it is Jesus but the works itself is the fathers works

Does that not teach you something

Oh nice, we’re getting somewhere…so someone of greater authority sent Jesus to earth to do His will.

I thought it was Jesus that sent himself since he’s the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

OkCornel:


Following on from this post is the distinction between the Son and the Father;

We can see numerous examples of this distinction in the scriptures and this is better explained by the prophets David & Daniel.

In Daniel 7 v 12-13, we see the son of man approach the ancient of days (The Father) to receive dominion and power.

David saw something similar too, more than one being in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-45 where the LORD (Yahweh) said unto my Lord (Yeshua or Jesus) sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool.

It would go against reason and even border on outright lies to claim Daniel and David saw one literal being in their visions.

The Father spoke on the day the Son was baptised at the Jordan “this is my Son in whom I’m well pleased”

The Father sent the son to die for the sins of man - John 3 v 16.

Jesus cried out to the Father when he was crucified.

Only the Father knows when the appointed time for the return of Christ would be! Even Jesus doesn’t know! Matthew 24 v 36.

If we can see these clear distinction between the Father and the Son, why do we have to believe the modalistic heresy that they are one being? It goes against God given reason.

My beloved brother

What all this people are seeing is God manifesting in three identity at the same time at and same place

Notice in the Bible that is why you hear something like the four faces of God

the man face represents humanity;

the lion face Rep wild animals;

the ox, domestic animals;

and the eagle, birds. ...

Three of the four faces are the same – man, lion and eagle

– but where chapter one has the face of an ox,

Ezekiel 10:14 says "face of a cherub".

Bishopkingsley:



My beloved brother

What all this people are seeing is God manifesting in three identity at the same time at and same place

Notice in the Bible that is why you hear something like the four faces of God

the man face represents humanity;

the lion face Rep wild animals;

the ox, domestic animals;

and the eagle, birds. ...

Three of the four faces are the same – man, lion and eagle

– but where chapter one has the face of an ox,

Ezekiel 10:14 says "face of a cherub".

Bro, Cherub are angels not God Almighty, nor the faces of God Almighty.

I don’t see the bearing with what a Cherub has to do with the face of God.

Anyways, does Jesus know when he’s coming back? Does he know the appointed time of his return?

Bishopkingsley, I have nothing against you… I’m only after the doctrine. I hope you don’t feel I’m attacking your person.

God bless.

OkCornel:


Following on from this post is the distinction between the Son and the Father;

We can see numerous examples of this distinction in the scriptures and this is better explained by the prophets David & Daniel.

In Daniel 7 v 12-13, we see the son of man approach the ancient of days (The Father) to receive dominion and power.

David saw something similar too, more than one being in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-45 where the LORD (Yahweh) said unto my Lord (Yeshua or Jesus) sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool.

It would go against reason and even border on outright lies to claim Daniel and David saw one literal being in their visions.

The Father spoke on the day the Son was baptised at the Jordan “this is my Son in whom I’m well pleased”

The Father sent the son to die for the sins of man - John 3 v 16.

Jesus cried out to the Father when he was crucified.

Only the Father knows when the appointed time for the return of Christ would be! Even Jesus doesn’t know! Matthew 24 v 36.

If we can see these clear distinction between the Father and the Son, why do we have to believe the modalistic heresy that they are one being? It goes against God given reason.

You say
Only the Father knows when the appointed time for the return of Christ would be! Even Jesus doesn’t know! Matthew 24 v 36.

Answer

The key to understanding Jesus’ seeming lack of knowledge in this matter lies in the nature of the Incarnation.

When the Son of God became a man, He remained fully God, but He also took on a true human nature. Jesus retained all the attributes of divinity, yet, as a man, He voluntarily restricted their use.

This was part of the “self-emptying” or self-renunciation spoken of in Philippians 2:6–8. When Christ entered our world, He laid aside the privileges that had been His in heaven. Rather than stay on His throne in heaven, Jesus “made himself nothing” (as the NIV translates Philippians 2:7).

When He came to earth, “he gave up his divine privileges” (NLT). He veiled His glory, and He chose to occupy the position of a servant.

OkCornel:


Bro, Cherub are angels not God Almighty, nor the faces of God Almighty.

I don’t see the bearing with what a Cherub has to do with the face of God.

Anyways, does Jesus know when he’s coming back? Does he know the appointed time of his return?

Answer

The key to understanding Jesus’ seeming lack of knowledge in this matter lies in the nature of the Incarnation.

When the Son of God became a man, He remained fully God, but He also took on a true human nature. Jesus retained all the attributes of divinity, yet, as a man, He voluntarily restricted their use.

This was part of the “self-emptying” or self-renunciation spoken of in Philippians 2:6–8. When Christ entered our world, He laid aside the privileges that had been His in heaven. Rather than stay on His throne in heaven, Jesus “made himself nothing” (as the NIV translates Philippians 2:7).

When He came to earth, “he gave up his divine privileges” (NLT). He veiled His glory, and He chose to occupy the position of a servant.

OkCornel:
Bishopkingsley, I have nothing against you… I’m only after the doctrine. I hope you don’t feel I’m attacking your person.

God bless.

My beloved brother am teaching you the un diluted doctrine that is able to save your soul

We don't have three beings as one

Rather one being in three dimensions doing a specific task one at a time and also showing himself like that

Even in the old testament you will hear that God the father was walking with his two legs with Adam on eden you will hear God showing Moses his back

You will see Isreal seeing the feet of God
On the mountain

Even Abraham eat with God talk with him etc

Bishopkingsley:


You say
Only the Father knows when the appointed time for the return of Christ would be! Even Jesus doesn’t know! Matthew 24 v 36.

Answer

The key to understanding Jesus’ seeming lack of knowledge in this matter lies in the nature of the Incarnation.

When the Son of God became a man, He remained fully God, but He also took on a true human nature. Jesus retained all the attributes of divinity, yet, as a man, He voluntarily restricted their use.

This was part of the “self-emptying” or self-renunciation spoken of in Philippians 2:6–8. When Christ entered our world, He laid aside the privileges that had been His in heaven. Rather than stay on His throne in heaven, Jesus “made himself nothing” (as the NIV translates Philippians 2:7).

When He came to earth, “he gave up his divine privileges” (NLT). He veiled His glory, and He chose to occupy the position of a servant.

Now be honest, this article feels like copy and paste from a website without you citing the source.

Anyways, are you now telling us Jesus right now as we speak knows the time of his coming?

Acts 1 v 6-7;

6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.

So Jesus at this point had a new body from his resurrection, conquered death said here clearly the time has been appointed by the Father.

Bishopkingsley, can you show us anywhere in the scriptures that suggests Jesus knows the time of his coming?

Bishopkingsley:


Answer

The key to understanding Jesus’ seeming lack of knowledge in this matter lies in the nature of the Incarnation.

When the Son of God became a man, He remained fully God, but He also took on a true human nature. Jesus retained all the attributes of divinity, yet, as a man, He voluntarily restricted their use.

This was part of the “self-emptying” or self-renunciation spoken of in Philippians 2:6–8. When Christ entered our world, He laid aside the privileges that had been His in heaven. Rather than stay on His throne in heaven, Jesus “made himself nothing” (as the NIV translates Philippians 2:7).

When He came to earth, “he gave up his divine privileges” (NLT). He veiled His glory, and He chose to occupy the position of a servant.

Your source;
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-know-return.html

Bishopkingsley:


My beloved brother am teaching you the un diluted doctrine that is able to save your soul

We don't have three beings as one

Rather one being in three dimensions doing a specific task one at a time and also showing himself like that

Even in the old testament you will hear that God the father was walking with his two legs with Adam on eden you will hear God showing Moses his back

You will see Isreal seeing the feet of God
On the mountain

Even Abraham eat with God talk with him etc

I hear you. Undiluted doctrine outrightly rejected by the early church and believers who contended for the faith.

OkCornel:


Now be honest, this article feels like copy and paste from a website without you citing the source.

Anyways, are you now telling us Jesus right now as we speak knows the time of his coming?

My brother I told you many times that Jesus was fully God and fully man that is why he was limited I told you and I felt

You did not understand me then I went to the internet to copy an explanation that you will understand easily because you fail to understand it when I told you many times before

Now to your next answer

It is yes because Jesus has been glorified

He is now in his position as God the son

If you want to see God now it Jesus you will see

Bishopkingsley:


My brother I told you many times that Jesus was fully God and fully man that is why he was limited you I felt

You did not understand me then I went to the internet to copy an explanation that you will understand easily because you fail to understand it when I told you many times before

Now to your next answer

It is yes because Jesus has been glorified

He is now in his position as God the son

If you want to see God now it Jesus you will see

Please prove to us using the scriptures that the glorified Jesus knows the time of his return.

Is it somewhere in Paul’s epistles? Or Peter’s? Or any other Apostle? Or maybe the writings of Jesus younger brothers James and Jude?

OkCornel:

I hear you. Undiluted doctrine outrightly rejected by the early church and believers who contended for the faith.

My brother no one rejected it

Only fake people who don't know God claim it was rejected do you know the early apostle did not believe holy spirit was for everyone

Until Paul came and prove them wrong

You can be in God and be in error in not knowing the real truth

Paul knows that it one God in three dimensions

Why do you want to believe lies

OkCornel:


Please prove to us using the scriptures that the glorified Jesus knows the time of his return.

Is it somewhere in Paul’s epistles? Or Peter’s? Or any other Apostle? Or maybe the writings of Jesus younger brothers James and Jude?

Revelation 22:12-14
King James Version
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Hear Jesus saying I come quickly

He did not repeat the last one he said

Now boldly saying I come quickly be ready oooooooooo

Bishopkingsley:


My brother no one rejected it

Only fake people who don't know God claim it was rejected do you know the early apostle did not believe holy spirit was for everyone

Until Paul came and prove them wrong

You can be in God and be in error in not knowing the real truth

Paul knows that it one God in three dimensions

Why do you want to believe lies

Wow, so the early church Fathers who fought modalism, Gnosticism, Sabellianism, Arianism and other false doctrines and also rejected false scriptures from being canonised are now fake people? Quite interesting.

Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds.

Bishopkingsley:


Revelation 22:12-14
King James Version
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Hear Jesus saying I come quickly

He did not repeat the last one he said

Now boldly saying I come quickly be ready oooooooooo

Does “I come quickly” sound like the dates and times Jesus said only the Father knows of in Acts 1 v 6-7?

Bros, no disappoint me abeg.

Show us where Jesus claimed he knew the time and hour of his return.

OkCornel:


Wow, so the early church Fathers who fought modalism, Gnosticism, Sabellianism, Arianism and other false doctrines and also rejected false scriptures from being canonised are now fake people? Quite interesting.

My God I did not say they are fake

I said Paul teach them things and God too

Please don't put my words against Bible please

There is danger on who adds and removes in Bible

Bishopkingsley:
Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds.

Does this “coming soon” sound like the time and hour the Father knows?

If anything, it still proves the glorified Jesus does not know the appointed time and hour of return.

OkCornel:


Does “I come quickly” sound like the dates and times Jesus said only the Father knows of in Acts 1 v 6-7?

Bros, no disappointment me abeg.

Show us where Jesus claimed he knew the time and hour of his return.

Wait you are funny so now according to you say that Jesus said the father knows the time


Oya Show me where in the Bible the time the father put