true2god:
You didn't look at the context properly and have no understanding of when a hyperbolic statement is made. Part of the text said:
For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.
From your understanding:
1) John the Baptist never ate any food
2) John never drink any wine, hence
3) John the Baptist must have a demon because the Pharisees said so.
A rational person will understand that John ate, drank wine and has no demon but he devoted most of his life fasting and always fed of locust and wild honey.
Now let’s look at the other part:
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.
From your understanding:
1) Jesus came eating and drinking (that is drinking ‘ogoro’, beer or other strong drinks the same way JWs do)
2) Jesus was a friend of tax collectors (modern day ‘agberos’ touts, or NURTW)
3) Jesus was a friend to sinners (since the Pharisees or the Jews said so)
Of course you cannot choose where the Jews called ‘a drunkard’ and ignore where they also called John the baptist 'demon-possessed'. Was Jesus a drunkard? No! Was a John the Baptist demon-possessed? No!
You are justifying drunkenness by misinterpreting the scriptures. This is a lie and a deceit the watchtower had been feeding you. Stop drinking alcohol.

MaxInDHouse:
So stop judging people over what they eat or drink! Matthew 15:12-20

true2god:

’Eating and drinking’ does not mean ‘Eating and drinking alcohol’. As a matter of fact 99% of human eat and drink only water while eating. So from your English lexicon, according to the watchtower lexicon, drinking mean ‘taking alcohol’.
You have to go back to school if that’s what you have been told to believe.

true2god:
Look at the text again:
And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after…
The context, ordinarily looked as if God permitted an unlimited lust and pleasure, was actually a test to the children of Isreal on moderation and how to spend their tithe. If you look at the text from the literal point of view that God approved excesses and gluttony, then you are not a student of the scripture. If you compare other scriptures where God strongly condemned the use of strong drink you will get the context more properly. You don’t establish a doctrine using an isolated Bible verse.
Look at Prover 6:30;Men do not despise a thief, if he steal To satisfy himself when he is hungry.
If you agree that God permitted you to use strong drinks, do you also think a man can steal to satify his hunger? Context is key bro!

Jesus turned water into wine and not strong drink or alcohol. We have non-alcholic wines in the market. If coke, Pepsi, Mirinda, etc were available at the time of Jesus, they will be classified as wine as well.

You are the one parroting the watchtower narrative without thinking for yourself. If you think for yourself you will see some of the errors in the watchtowers doctrines.Many people had seen the errors and they left your organization. And to blackmail them you call them apostates, infidels, mentally ill (as some other derogatory terms) even if they leave and join another Christian group.

Your organization call anyone who leaves JW as ‘MENTALLY ILL’ If you leave the organization tomorrow they will also call you ‘MENTALLY ILL’

true2god:

You need to try cocaine or marijuana. I am no longer judging you.

MaxInDHouse:
So to whom do your question addressed on a fresh thread if not the me?
Ever since then have you desist from typing trash until i blasted you?
OK i'm using this medium to tell you now that if you are not going to respect me and my faith leave the thread!

MaxInDHouse:
Fooool!
So it's when chatting with idiots like you that a Christian should be sober, shey?
When i say "study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses" you came in typing like a nuisance see what you're expecting from someone who had no business with you?

Well listen and learn, a Christian should always be happy it's only when struggling with inborn sinful nature that a Christian needed to be remorseful (sober) not when living according to the righteousness of God which he knows!
So if your Pastors told you to be sober always we are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the fulfilment of all the promises Jesus made in the first century regarding pure worship. We are joyous always because everything Jesus foretold about pure worship in the last days is coming true with us!

Image123:

There goes the Awake seller with the loving and global organisation, yet talks like the tout in the garage. You obviously lack decorum, love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness and anything godly. You are not a christian but a drunk, proud hypocrite, no need to deceive yourself further.
Study Bible, study dictionary. It is very clear what "sober" means and christians are told to be. But the sad hall never told you, or as usual you chose not to listen. i quoted them for you from the Bible but you waved them off since you've not read it in Awake, idolater.

Image123:

Always try to crosscheck before sending or are you still drunk again and again? Read what you wrote when you are sober and see if it makes sense to you. Instead of you to humble yourself and apologize for your hypocrisy, you are making noise. Remove my moniker from the foolery going on here and in your mind, it is that simple.

true2god:
’Eating and drinking’ does not mean ‘Eating and drinking alcohol’. As a matter of fact 99% of human eat and drink only water while eating. So from your English lexicon, according to the watchtower lexicon, drinking mean ‘taking alcohol’.

You have to go back to school if that’s what you have been told to believe.

eating and drinking,men marrying and women been giving in marriage"
Matthew 24:38.
Bros, wetin people dey drink for marriage feasts?

Romans 13:13, can revelries & drunkenness occur without drinking alcohol ?

Bros, (Strong's 3178) what is " Deep drinking " @ Luke 21:34?

Joshua 9:4 & Isaiah 5:11, do Israelites keep wineskins for fancy ?
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Bros, you do not have to like JWs, but stop making FALSE claims.
"Bigotry does you no good".

true2god:
Pot calling kettle black. Your Watchtower and Awake! magazines are filled with anti-Christian bigotry. It is ironic that you are the one making this statement. Your bigotry doesn't even allow you mention by moniker in full but called me "true2..."

true2god:
You didn't look at the context properly and have no understanding of when a hyperbolic statement is made. Part of the text said:

For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.

From your understanding:

1) John the Baptist never ate any food

2) John never drink any wine, hence

3) John the Baptist must have a demon because the Pharisees said so.

A rational person will understand that John ate, drank wine and has no demon but he devoted most of his life fasting and always fed of locust and wild honey.

Now let’s look at the other part:

The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.

From your understanding:

1) Jesus came eating and drinking (that is drinking ‘ogoro’, beer or other strong drinks the same way JWs do)

2) Jesus was a friend of tax collectors (modern day ‘agberos’ touts, or NURTW)

3) Jesus was a friend to sinners (since the Pharisees or the Jews said so)

Of course you cannot choose where the Jews called ‘a drunkard’ and ignore where they also called John the baptist 'demon-possessed'. Was Jesus a drunkard? No! Was a John the Baptist demon-possessed? No!

You are justifying drunkenness by misinterpreting the scriptures. This is a lie and a deceit the watchtower had been feeding you. Stop drinking alcohol.

achorladey:


We know you don't lie But you use post of LIARS as TRUTH . E dey part of una mode of operations...

KNOWMORE56:



"...No be today dem start am"

No be lie. I hardly forget the way they attacked one lady here by the name/monica SALVATION112 or so.

Some time I do think they might have eliminated the lady.

achorladey:


See as you keep colouring the matter continuously with the addition of throwing punches. Is fight only in throwing punches? The example your brother talked about is it in throwing punches . Where is the intelligence and wisdom you too brag about?

Evidence like one happening after a convention programme right inside the assembly ground or which one? Or the one which happens inside the house of a couple of your members during those days when una still dey hold Bible study inside una members house. E get as e be for you oooo

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages

fight
/fʌɪt/

verb
1.
"take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons"

The ones Achorladey added Maggi & pepper to distorts the truth and color his claims.
Achorladey LIAR.

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MaxInDHouse:


You've tried a lot with this account but there's one thing you failed to realise:
There are thousands of different religious groups on this planet, each group is claiming they're worshipers of the true God, they have leaders in each sect directing the affairs of each group, they have developed various forms of standard (conflicting and contradicting) so throughout the earth there is this mixed feelings that it's not necessary you belong to a specific group since everyone knows what is right and wrong. With this any religion that's having a edge above all others will certainly become the main focus as in center of attraction {Matthew 5:13-16} and surely few individuals who wants to be on the highest mountain (pure worship) will drop whatever religion they're born into when they discover the highest.
However envious people who don't care about any standard but strongly believe in their own sense of reasoning will feel hurt seeing humans like themselves each fully prepared to subject himself or herself to just one single Organization. John 15:19, 17:14
That's exactly what you and others are trying to establish here. But as God would have it it has been prophesied in the Bible that in the last days pure worship will rise up above all other forms of worship and people from all races will submissively troop in. Micah 4:1

Therefore as i said the first time you posted on this thread with this account i will repeat again:

On behalf of the entire association of Jehovah's Witnesses globally, we really appreciate your contribution on this thread because the highlighted in your post below has said it all about God's people! 1Peter 2:12

Thanks for using this account to express your inner feelings and thoughts about JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. May you have PEACE!

Janosky:

The guy actually associated with JWs as a means to chase our JW sister to convert her to his epistle not because he has genuine interest to worship JEHOVAH.

Many of them with his kind of mindset have stopped serving Jehovah our God.

MaxInDHouse:
Please stop cursing me! . May my seat never become empty in the congragation of God's people JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

MaxInDHouse:
Don't add to God's word Sir, the Bible never mentioned the type of wine Jesus turned the water to. But we can discern from what the MC said:

“Everyone else puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have saved the fine wine until now.” John 2:10

So according to the MC the wine Jesus turned water to can surely get people drunk if taken excessively!

MaxInDHouse:
If you're learned you will know that you have been taking those things but it's the amount that's needed through medicines but people do abuse it just the same way they do with food and drinks!

Janosky:

Shebi your Spurious claims misleading 2 persons?
Bros, your claim (bolded) is GIBBERISH.
In all Mediterranean cultures (European, North Africans & Middle East, places in your Bible), wine drinking & eating goes hand in hand.
Grapes are in abundance there.
Bros ,go and find out.

"For as they were in those days before the Flood , eating and drinking,men marrying and women been giving in marriage"
Matthew 24:38.
Bros, wetin people dey drink for marriage feasts?

Romans 13:13, can revelries & drunkenness occur without drinking alcohol ?

Bros, (Strong's 3178) what is " Deep drinking " @ Luke 21:34?

Joshua 9:4 & Isaiah 5:11, do Israelites keep wineskins for fancy ?
.

Bros, you do not have to like JWs, but stop making FALSE claims.
"Bigotry does you no good".

Janosky:
Shebi Your Trinitarian mentors and your Bible have confirmed Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael & JWs say it very loud. Genesis 16:7, Amplified Bible , Geneva Bible etc. How does that amount to your "anti Christian bigotry claim ?" Bros, You no even fit abide by the claim of your moniker.

true2god:

Your July 2011 Watchtower edition described JW apostates who criticized any doctrine of the Watchtower as MENTALLY ILL. I didn’t say so but your governing body did.If tomorrow, you decide to leave the organization, and even criticize some of their teachings, you will be considered as MENTALLY ILL. Your one of the most reliable magazines said so and not me.

Janosky:


Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages

fight
/fʌɪt/

verb
1.
"take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons"

The ones Achorladey added Maggi & pepper to distorts the truth and color his claims.
Achorladey LIAR.

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true2god:
John 2:10,
...and said to him, “Everyone else serves his best wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then he serves that which is not so good; but you have kept back the good wine until now.”
The past participle of drink (verb) is drunk. 'Drunk' when used as a adjective means 'to be intoxicated' and when used as a noun means 'a habitual drinker'.
The term as used in the passage is a verb. Jesus will not give people drink that will make them generally intoxicated thus likely to misbehave. Stop attaching your official waywardness to Jesus.

true2god:

When I used the term 'cocaine' I am talking about the crack or raw cocaine that makes people high. Since God never condemned what you eat or eat, you can as well go into the consumption of marijuana and crack cocaine, especially if your soul lusted after it (DEUT 14:26). Why will you take strong drink (that makes you high) and not take crack cocaine and marijuana (both equally make you high and God never condemned what you eat or drink).

Janosky:


Bros, present the proof for Mr KNOWMORE56 FALSE MISLEADING claim.
Achorladey proven himself a LIAR..
We already know

true2god:

Your aggression and uncouthness make you undeserving for any response.

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible book of Genesis 1:28

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.”

The colored says "Be fruitful and become many" now one of my Bible students asked the question:
"if truly God instructed us to bear Children, how come some servants of God in Bible times never had children?"


So let's deliberate on this as the first topic of our Bible study!

true2god:
You need to try cocaine or marijuana. I am no longer judging you.

achorladey:

Easy for him to say others judge him. When placed in the same shoe. They cry blue murder.

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible book of Genesis 1:28

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.”

The colored says "Be fruitful and become many" now one of my Bible students asked the question:
"if truly God instructed us to bear Children, how come some servants of God in Bible times never had children?"


So let's deliberate on this as the first topic of our Bible study!

MaxInDHouse:


You've also been following the thread from the first page, now is the time to commence Bible study session.
How would you handle the below question from an interested person if you're asked this question?