Chukwuzobam89:
So true, my parents were almost ban because l married an Anglican. My parents didn't even attend my white wedding for the fear of banning them.
It was so horrible that the priest in charge of our then church, queried me about my plans to marry a non Catholic and how l was choosing darkness over light for agreeing to marry an Anglican.
My late dad wasn't given a full burial rite because of that but God pass them.

breathelove:

That's what people like Chimamanda are realizing, the failures of the Catholic church.
If we now have to pay money for a prayer at our death then what is the purpose.
For which of his services did Christ collect money?

Jesubaby:

This isn't the Catholic church tradition oo. It is the Igbos tradition. Even now 90% of them doesn't allow their children to marry a non Igbo. Why won't they do it to their non denominations? Leave d church out of this. My elder sisters got married to a non catholics, nothing of such happens to my parent.

BabaIbo:


You just typed trash up there.

Which one is 90%? As if it doesn't exist in your tribe, you are pointing that your filthy finger at others, meanwhile your tribe is filled with numerous ills.

Nonsense, you want a man to marry a lazy woman the can't support or help in managing his business empire but only wants to go to parties, spend money and lazy around.
And if things go south, she will quickly jump ship and leave the man to his fate.

BabaIbo:

You are dumb, no apology.

Is it money for burial or dues that were meant to be paid by the deceased when he/she was alive but he/she evaded it?
The deceased family do receive donations in form of support for the deceased burial, which most of the times is gotten from other people's burial dues, if he/she dooesn't pay i.e if everyone keeps evading the payment, how will others get their own support?

Ignorance is affecting you, if you don't understand something, ask questions before typing trash allover the thread.

Angelfrost:


Well, no insult was intended with that submission or opinion... If anyone, even you, feels slighted then I apologize but my statement and position stays unchanged.

It is deeper than that... Mind you, I haven't even poked at cultures or traditions, neither do I have anything against morality.

When I speak of religion, any deep thinker already knows I speak of the inhumanity and disunity it proliferates rather than addresses... So, my position holds even at the risk of coming off as indelicate to your sensitivity or bent.

Lastly, I have been religious... I long ceased to follow such pathetic bandwagon and truly embrace God in totality. Call me childish all ye want, but I'm liberated.

A good morning to you!

breathelove:


Mr smartphone do you even read your bible. Let me educate you using the bible.
The gospel is for free. In the gospel of Jesup Christ, their is nothing like dues.. we are only encouraged to give of our freewill. No force.
Also church donations are private, what the right hand gives the left does not know.
In the body of Christ, we don't pay dues. And burial's are not given on a condition of tithes.
You should spend more time in understanding your scriptures and building your faith.

As a Christian I am living you with passages from the Bible. If the scriptures mean anything to you, you would understand that the church does not work for more. Every service of the church is free

1 corinthians 9.18 What then is my reward? Just this: that in preaching the gospel I may offer it free of charge, and so not make full use of my rights as a preacher of the gospel

Isaiah 55.1“Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost.

Jesubaby:

The truth is always painful. See how d truth de make u cry for there. U go cry well well. Make una no carry una barbaric culture dey spoil d catholic church name.

BabaIbo:


I am sure it is a kid that is behind this moniker, you can't differentiate between salvation and occasion.
The verses you quoted are focused on salvation and not activity.
Did the church requested for money before you enter the church to pray, receive communion and do other liturgical activities?

In the Bible, what did Jesus Christ say about tax/due?
Is church activities run with paper?

You expect them to mobilize themselves and come for the occasion or program but you don't want to do the necessary thing that will help in mobilizing.

How do you want them to raise the needed fund for such activity?
I hope you know they do give money/support to the grieving family to help them in conducting the process?
If you don't pay but want to receive the support, I hope you know you want to eat your cake and still have it?

BabaIbo:


I am sure it is a kid that is behind this moniker, you can't differentiate between salvation and occasion.
The verses you quoted are focused on salvation and not activity.
Did the church requested for money before you enter the church to pray, receive communion and do other liturgical activities?

In the Bible, what did Jesus Christ say about tax/due?
Is church activities run with paper?

You expect them to mobilize themselves and come for the occasion or program but you don't want to do the necessary thing that will help in mobilizing.

How do you want them to raise the needed fund for such activity?
I hope you know they do give money/support to the grieving family to help them in conducting the process?
If you don't pay but want to receive the support, I hope you know you want to eat your cake and still have it?

breathelove:

You are only trying to be smart.
Do you need funds to pray at a burial?
Where did you read in the bible that help is given to only those that contribute.
You modern Christians who would not build your foundation from the scripture but due in vain argument.
Really what funds are needed to say a prayer for the dead?
Smart guy

breathelove:

You believe I am a kid, Chimamanda should also be a kid and every other person who disagrees with his royal highness.
That's super mature thinking from you chief.
Mr know it all.
We don't sell our ideas by belittling others. We show mutual respect in arguments.
You are the adult here, I shouldn't be teaching you this.
Please read your bible and learn wisdom.
Learn to serve without counting the cost.
Stop taxing people at death. The church is way beyond that.
Just say the simple prayer for the diseased and be done with it

jesusjnr2020:
You're right that sexism is still prevalent in the church and the woman is still being treated by church leaders and Christians as the cause of man's downfall despite that Jesus had redeemed her from the curse of her sin. So that's not in question.

However in your own case, it's a matter of the curse of knowledge and fame etc., which is pride but the end thereof is destruction.

I hope God humbles you and makes you go through things that would make you realize how far you've strayed from the Truth so you can retrace your footsteps.

God bless.

Angelfrost:
Any learned or educated person who hasn't outgrown religion is destined to remain stupid...

I can't say more than this!!!

BRATISLAVA:


You aren't Christian, you're Catholic.

JayB11:


You may need to ask the angel who visited Mary with these words "Hail Mary, full of grace". To "hail" is to "honor"..... we honor Mary, not "worship".

We also do not worship images nor idols....you need to visit the Church and understand how it rolls, you cannot judge a book by its cover. Find any Catholic Church and get knowledgeable ideas from the Priest or Members there....cos we won't finish it here.

Redoil:

typical nigerian youth do you understand what she is saying

BabaIbo:


It seems someone got emotional with my words.

No vex if I called you a kid when you're not, but you condemning a whole tribe because of this is totally wrong.

Who is chimamda when it comes to Catholic Church? She is just an aggrieved member like others who don't agree with catholic doctrines.

Wait, do you expect them to spend their personal money to run such activity?

Anyway, have a good day.

jesusjnr2020:
You're right that sexism is still prevalent in the church and the woman is still being treated by church leaders and Christians as the cause of man's downfall despite that Jesus had redeemed her from the curse of her sin. So that's not in question.

However in your own case, it's a matter of the curse of knowledge and fame etc., which is pride but the end thereof is destruction.

I hope God humbles you and makes you go through things that would make you realize how far you've strayed from the Truth so you can retrace your footsteps.

God bless.

GiantParrot:


Hmm. A person who by his freewill believes and professes the Apostle's and Nicene Creeds is not a Christian? It is interesting what this new holy spirit that came into being about 100 years ago or so teaches people.

BabaIbo:


Let me ask you some questions...
The priest, the choristers etc that will come there, will they fly? Abi make them use their own money run am?
The program that will be held in the church or at the deceased home, how will the logistics(on the church part) be put in place?
And other things.

The dues that the lady in the main post is complaining of, do you think it runs into millions?
Infact, Catholic Church is where you can hold the cheapest wedding program without any problem.

It is in every face of the society, as long as they have benefited from dues paid by others, they should also pay.
Just like friends contributing money to help support a member of the crew in his wedding and when it's another members turn, he doesn't want to pay.

The topic is beyond your understanding anyway.

Seamarine114:
You are a liar chimanda, it doesn't happen in my own catholic. Maybe it happens in your own realm

breathelove:

Oga what game are you playing.. so it's about transportation within the community.
If that is the only amount the church request people would not be complaining.
I am not church Chimamanda is complaining because the church requested for common transport money. We both know it's beyond that.
Instead, they open a book to check for unpaid bills of the dead.
If they need transportation it's OK if they arrange that with the family. No one would have issues with that.
Again don't say what you don't know.. the Catholic church is not where u hold the cheapest weddings.
I can give you a list churches where weddings don't cost a kobo but it's not a competition. We commend the catholics for cheap weddings.
Also you must realize that there are many other churches that don't request transport money to perform a burial.
Again you could have simply explained that the church is only asking for transportation, that I would have no argument about that.
But then we both know what they request is beyond transport for the priest and choir.

breathelove:

I wasn't emotional for my sake, I was only feeling sorry for you.
I am condemning a social I'll not minding the tribe. Someone has to tell the truth.
You keep talking about spending money. Boss what expenses. The family is buying the casket. The only duty of the church is to offer prayer and conduct a service.

kingxsamz:
...
Christians claim to be "one" and that they serve the same god, but the division between them is so much that it's considered an act of clownery when they say "their god is not a god of confusion".
MFM, Catholic, White garment, RCCG, Deeper life, Jehovah witness, Christ embassy etc... Don't agree with themselves on a lot of things.
And they read the same Bible.
Religion has and will always cause division, both to its adherents and the outsiders.
Funny how women are the ones who are more religious even though religion recognizes them as [b]mere property for men.

BSsniffer:
It's not about Catholicism but a toxic Igbo culture that worships money and regards women as property.

jesusjnr2020:
You're right that sexism is still prevalent in the church and the woman is still being treated by church leaders and Christians as the cause of man's downfall despite that Jesus had redeemed her from the curse of her sin. So that's not in question.

However in your own case, it's a matter of the curse of knowledge and fame etc., which is pride but the end thereof is destruction.

I hope God humbles you and makes you go through things that would make you realize how far you've strayed from the Truth so you can retrace your footsteps.

God bless.

May God humble you in the exact manner in which you want her to be humbled. Amen