airmark:


He was in Raumdeuter's top 10 strikers in the world. So why you guys always shouting Airmark, Airmark anytime it's about Belotti?

Ibime:


Funny how Pjanic made 4 Serie A team of the season in a row even as a Roma player, while Jorginho never made one.

From the way Busquet and Pedri turned Jorginho to a water carrier in the Spain-Italy game, it's clear Jorgi will also be glued to the bench at Barca.

nihilistjnr:


Lana1 say it ain't so brah, say it ain't soooo

Havertz10:
If havertz started that Fa cup final game, we would have won it, anybody that supports mount being the creative hub for Chelsea is evil

when your country or club needs you, top players are able to switch into another gear to have an impact

They said that we need kane, that timo is the person holding mount from getting 100 assists

We have seen mount playing with kane did he produce the goods? how about a final with the expectation of an entire nation behind him, when I said that havertz created that goal against city, you thought that I was hating, watch the replay, mount isnt creative enough to plan or orchestrate a play like that, mount is a marmite player, it's no longer an argument about his abilities, it's obvious that he isn't good enough, some people just wouldn't accept that their wrong, they would rather watch other players suffer playing with him than accepting that he is a squad player, mount's days scamming people with vibes will soon be over, the whole world has seen why more than half of Chelsea fans dislike the guy, Tuchel is aware, he kept sending him deep into midfield, tuchel knows that he isn't good enough, that's the truth, you wouldn't push a creative player back if you think that his talents are better utilized in the attacking 3rd


did you know that havertz was the first Chelsea player at the euros to give his shirt to a fan but he sent someone, he didn't do it for attention, he was asked for it and he sent someone, doesn't do things for clout or vibes, serious footballer

popizaino:



No can't you see how he is balancing attack and defence ?

donstan18:
Fans of Bruno, KDB and Pogba don’t need epistle to tell the world how talented and good those players are.

Mount can’t bench KDB, Bruno and Pogba, he benched a player of 75m+ under two managers.

That’s enough to pass a message. He’s better than Fraudvertz.

raumdeuter:
I have seen people blaming the decision to choose Saka as one of the shooters. Ideally I dont think Saka would have been chosen but in that type of high pressure final, At home with the pressure I wont be shocked if some senior players declined or were already jittery which forced the coach's hand

I know this from experience

Champions League final 2012

Ideally Bayern top 5 shooters would be

Robben, Gomez, Alaba Ribery Schweinsteiger

In the final, Robben already missed a penalty in full time and the coach didn't want to risk him shooting another vs Cech, Alaba was suspended for the final, Ribery left the game injured, Muller was already substituted

Older and more experienced players like Tymoschuk and Van Buyten were hiding
So the coach had to pick 5 and included Neuer a keeper and Kroos however Kroos declined to shoot because he was scared so Olic had to take the penalty which he missed

That was one of the reasons for Bayern not matching Kroos salary demand a year later since he was deemed not a leader. Van Buyten and Tymoschuk contracts were not renewed too.

I strongly suspect senior players in England were hiding from penalties and Saka had to step up

donstan18:

I’m glad Mount didn’t play because he might miss, I don’t want anything that will psychologically affect his growth and development.

He’s still a young player trying his best to help his team.

The pressure and expectations from Sancho next season will be much. It took ManU two years, if not more, to discuss his signing.

Then he missed a penalty, I’ve not even talked about how poor he was against Ukraine.

But then, anything can happen, he can end up performing marvelously well because players hardly flop under Ole.

Jamie90:


When Saka took the ball, I was 100% sure he will miss, even Donarumma knew. Maybe the fear of other senior player who refused to play rubbed off on him..... He was so jittery.

Na Sancho use confidence play nonsense

raumdeuter:
I have seen people blaming the decision to choose Saka as one of the shooters. Ideally I dont think Saka would have been chosen but in that type of high pressure final, At home with the pressure I wont be shocked if some senior players declined or were already jittery which forced the coach's hand

I know this from experience

Champions League final 2012

Ideally Bayern top 5 shooters would be

Robben, Gomez, Alaba Ribery Schweinsteiger

In the final, Robben already missed a penalty in full time and the coach didn't want to risk him shooting another vs Cech, Alaba was suspended for the final, Ribery left the game injured, Muller was already substituted

Older and more experienced players like Tymoschuk and Van Buyten were hiding
So the coach had to pick 5 and included Neuer a keeper and Kroos however Kroos declined to shoot because he was scared so Olic had to take the penalty which he missed

That was one of the reasons for Bayern not matching Kroos salary demand a year later since he was deemed not a leader. Van Buyten and Tymoschuk contracts were not renewed too.

I strongly suspect senior players in England were hiding from penalties and Saka had to step up

donstan18:
Xhaka over Jorginho?

raumdeuter:
I have seen people blaming the decision to choose Saka as one of the shooters. Ideally I dont think Saka would have been chosen but in that type of high pressure final, At home with the pressure I wont be shocked if some senior players declined or were already jittery which forced the coach's hand

I know this from experience

Champions League final 2012

Ideally Bayern top 5 shooters would be

Robben, Gomez, Alaba Ribery Schweinsteiger

In the final, Robben already missed a penalty in full time and the coach didn't want to risk him shooting another vs Cech, Alaba was suspended for the final, Ribery left the game injured, Muller was already substituted

Older and more experienced players like Tymoschuk and Van Buyten were hiding
So the coach had to pick 5 and included Neuer a keeper and Kroos however Kroos declined to shoot because he was scared so Olic had to take the penalty which he missed

That was one of the reasons for Bayern not matching Kroos salary demand a year later since he was deemed not a leader. Van Buyten and Tymoschuk contracts were not renewed too.

I strongly suspect senior players in England were hiding from penalties and Saka had to step up

PendragonVII:


I said I wanted to take one!!!!
The gaffer has made so many right decisions through this tournament and he did tonight! But I won’t have people say that I didn’t want to take a peno when I said I will… https:///3mBpKyMoUV

— Jack Grealish (@JackGrealish) July 12, 2021

donstan18:
Xhaka over Jorginho?

raumdeuter:


Statistically Grealish has taken only 1 penalty his entire career back in January 2016 in division 2. So what reason will make a coach select a 25yr old player who has hardly taken one his entire career? while Saka at 19yrs has taken 2 though 1 in a NT friendly and 1 in a youth FA cup

donstan18:
Xhaka over Jorginho?

afrodoc2:


3 United players. 0 Chelshit player.


Interesting.

Amoto94:

I'm tempted to say polling booth award but it will discredit the worthy inclusions. Xhaka had a good tournament his inclusion is debatable but not out of place, he was the driving force behind the Swiss midfield that dominated France and had them eliminated.

Roland17:
Firstly the way the whole game and penalty decision was handled proved England lacks the mental toughness during clutch moments. From the coaching staff to the players, there is an obvious lack of mental toughness. The mentality of the entire squad is WEAK and they nearly escaped with a trophy and no one would have remembered it.

Your take is a big fact! Take a look at England during the huddle when Southgate with his paper and pen was speaking, I saw players raise their hands or point to their chest indicating interest to play PK or responding to their names being called. I did not see Saka around that area which is normal because he had never kicked a PK for Arsenal, so I imagine he would have been shocked to hear his name. At Arsenal he is a creator, not necessarily a scorer.

The only way Saka would have volunteered to take that PK is after he has seen everyone else hide from the responsibility. That kid has got some mental strength, I can assure you of that. Or is he supposed to say No after Southgate mentions his name? I think Southgate was hoping England by luck win the shootout before the 5th.

Sterling has a terrible penalty record for City, I think he is 1/4, Grealish is worse.. So I imagine those two did not want anything to do with taking penalties especially knowing it’s for a cup, playing for their national team and the jitters were evident.

Should Kane have taken the first penalty or the last PK? That is another debate.. The only player who approached the PK with confidence was Magawaya a.k.a FRIDGE and you can see the way he dispatched his own kick.

The others looked scared to death.

Roland17:
@ramdeuter and other please follow the link, watch the video and tell me what you see Southgate doing. It confirms my first post.

http://payperwatch.net/news/soccershighlights/comments/oioadz/southgate_informing_the_penaltykick_takers_of_the/

afrodoc2:
Those senior guys were hiding. Nobody wanted to be the next Batty, Psycho, or Southgate.

The manager himself still has PTSD from the 1996 debacle so he might have subconsciously infused his players with fear.

raumdeuter:


Yeah I remember Southgate, The only thing I remember about his career was his penalty miss vs Germany

I am just pissed at those people who want to make Saka the scapegoat and fall guy for their senior guys hiding

afrodoc2:


Jack Grealish with all his dribbling swagger was waiting for Southgate to come and call him.