maximunimpact:


It's not accusations man, these are facts.

OkCornel:


So how does these facts help with the Bible study? Because it appears to be more of a distraction tbh.

Just thinking a separate thread will do better justice to that, so things can be better organised here.

After all, we can’t claim to serve a God of order and behave as chaotic and disorganised worshippers, or what do you think?

MaxInDHouse:
They are just restless feeling hurt but i'll tell you what is tormenting them!

maximunimpact:

Janosky:


Hebrew Masoretic Text (older than ALL English Bible versions) of Psalms 45:6-7 "your throne given of God." This is the correct copy of Hebrews 1:8 quoted by Paul.
Psalms 45:6 Catholic Jerusalem Bible confirmed authenticity of the Masoretic Text.

Bros, your claim is Spurious.
Argue with your keyboard.

Janosky:

Just imagine !
The man who claims his Triune God is One being & his one being God is "THEY".

MaxInDHouse:
You're welcome Sir, your contribution to the topic of discussion will be appreciated!

God supported the Israelites during wars in ancient times but when Jesus came he asked us to pray for our enemies. Please can you do justice to that?

Kingsnairaland:
so among the heavy lies outlined the only one you focus on is just small issues that the writer wrote about women and husband relationships to show you you don't care about their scriptural lies
Jesus specifically warned us that those who lie their true father is the devil saying you know when amagedom will happen shows that you disrespect God who kept it secret

MaxInDHouse:
You're welcome Sir, your contribution to the topic of discussion will be appreciated!

God supported the Israelites during wars in ancient times but when Jesus came he asked us to pray for our enemies. Please can you do justice to that?

omojeesu:


Those on the way to hell won't listen to counsel.

Do you now acknowledge the truth of Catholicism?

Why is the rendering in your heritical NWT different from the Masoretic and Catholic version?

*God is your throne forever* and ever;
The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness

Archangel Michael has God as His throne abi?

Why don't you bow your knees to Jesus in repentance. He is still waiting for you.

maximunimpact:


Answer this first

MaxInDHouse:
Topic of discussion!

After Adam and Eve lost their Paradisiac home in Eden the only focus of all heavens is not how many are humans on planet earth but the promised child that's coming to destroy the works of the devil which is the Messiah (Christ)
We will notice that God's word is focused on just one race the Hebrews!

That's why God is prepared to destroy any nation no matter their number just to protect this chosen race because that's the only lineage that needs to be protected, as for any other race their children are like mere dust before God.
WHY?
Life itself has no purpose after Adam and Eve were driven out of Eden. God wants us to live forever not for countable years and expire!

So God's faithful servants knew this therefore whenever any of them heard that the Messiah is coming from his lineage they embrace the promise with joy.

Abraham, Isaac, Jacob stole it from Esau, Jacob had 12 sons the first born (Reuben) lost it because he slept with his father's concubine, Semion and Levi both lost the privilege due to their murderous act against Shechem and his people. So the fourth son (Judah) got the promise, things were so difficult for Judah to the extent that his two sons died on one woman, later Judah had to impregnate the woman by himself to keep the promise.

All these while people were having children elsewhere on the surface of the earth but God only favour any nation that is friendly with the race that will produce the Messiah, all other races are as good as dead before God.

So God's people knew that their purpose of giving birth to children is to see the promised child!

To be continued!

MaxInDHouse:
God's faithful servants who have not received the promise know that there is no reason for them to bear Children since their descendants will continue to suffer hopelessly in this system of things. So when they bear children they take good care of them just like others around them.
That's why some of God's servants never had children and never worried about child bearing!
All the earth continue to increase in number hopelessly until God's Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary who gave birth to the most important child in the history of mankind!
There was joy in heaven so angels came down to break the news to Jewish shepherds closeby but Satan who knew the purpose of this child began planning to exterminate him!
When Herod the great heard of the promises child born not from his lineage he was enraged and determined to kill little Jesus.
We all know the rest of the story.
Till now people still quote that verse:

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

But the purpose was lost when Adam and Eve rebelled against God, it will be surely restored when God apply the ransom sacrifice of Jesus in our behalf. Then the earth will be filled with all the good things we need, death will be no more, no more sickness, aging will become a thing of the past, animals will become submissive to humans and then when there is no more death the earth will be filled with love joy and peace just as JEHOVAH purposed it in the beginning.

So for now bearing children is good but not God's will as most people thought!

Thanks again

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
Genesis 1:28 God's word says "Be fruitful and multiply" but why is it that some faithful servants of God never had children?

maximunimpact:

Answer this first

Janosky:

Did the son of destruction miss salvation?

MaxInDHouse:
God's faithful servants who have not received the promise know that there is no reason for them to bear Children since their descendants will continue to suffer hopelessly in this system of things. So when they bear children they take good care of them just like others around them.
That's why some of God's servants never had children and never worried about child bearing!
All the earth continue to increase in number hopelessly until God's Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary who gave birth to the most important child in the history of mankind!
There was joy in heaven so angels came down to break the news to Jewish shepherds closeby but Satan who knew the purpose of this child began planning to exterminate him!
When Herod the great heard of the promises child born not from his lineage he was enraged and determined to kill little Jesus.
We all know the rest of the story.
Till now people still quote that verse:

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

But the purpose was lost when Adam and Eve rebelled against God, it will be surely restored when God apply the ransom sacrifice of Jesus in our behalf. Then the earth will be filled with all the good things we need, death will be no more, no more sickness, aging will become a thing of the past, animals will become submissive to humans and then when there is no more death the earth will be filled with love joy and peace just as JEHOVAH purposed it in the beginning.

So for now bearing children is good but not God's will as most people thought!

Thanks again

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

RussellRutherfo:


This is not an insult to you but you are possessed and mentally disturbed. For real, Do you really read these Bible verses you post or you just lift directly from the JW site and repost for us.

Do you really understand and know how to read in English language?

What other language can you read so maybe we might read in that language and see if you can be loosed from these captivity that GB has tied you in.

Was there a demarcation of some part of the Church claiming to be the only "Truth" and the rest as to be destroyed?

Even a Sect of the PHARISEES who were Believers in the Church and when they questioned according to how they understood the Old Hebrew Scriptures. Where they still allowed to be a part of the Church or disfellowshiped?
You can see from even other translations that Paul and Barnabas never acted in a foolish manner like the Governing Body to claim that no one can question them on anything? That if these Believers who had a sort of different Pharisees understanding of the Scriptures be DISFELLOWSHIPED and SHUNNED if they ask any UNSCRIPTED JW question? Did Peter immediately disfellowshiped and shunned them like JW organization does if one starts asking a question that they don't like? Or did the Apostles and Elders of Peter's days immediately ask that their fellow Church family members not talk to them again?


Acts 15:4-5 NKJV — And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them. But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”

Acts 15:5 ESV — But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”


Instead how did Peter and the elders respond to them? To prove that they were really followers of Jesus. Did Peter and the rest immediately made a demarcation between them and disallow the move of the Holy Spirit and suddenly claim that they were now in place of the Holy Spirit that bears witness to Jesus, the Only Perfect One that all true followers of Jesus is to look up to and that that instead the Church looks up to them for just about anything like JWs do to the 8-Charlatans at New York who claim to be mouthpiece of Jehovah.

Acts 15:6-12 NKJV — Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. “So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, “and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. “Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? “But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.” Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles.

Considering the non-distinction that Apostle Peter spoke on here about the believers whether of the Pharisees Jews who believed and of the Gentiles believers. Where exactly did the Satanic JW organization copy the distinction that they give that only the organization is the seperatist "truth" and that every other Christian Church will be destroyed in Armageddon? That anyone who questions the lies of their false predictions and evil history is an "apostate" and should be shunned? Why does the JW organization as against what Apostle Peter said here by stifling the Holy Spirit in the hearts of all JW and taking the Holy Spirit's place, holding JWs captive as the only source of knowledge for all JWs must come from the GB, making a distinction and placing yokes on JW that even Russell, Rutherford, etcetera could not bear with their various doctrinal change and teaching/new light adjustments that now see old JWs who previously held on to those revised teachings and who died in them before they were reversed as dammed candidates of Hell?


You still have not shown me in the Bible where Church in these Greek Scriptures were Called Jehovah Witnesses? Same Jehovah not rendered in the Greek Scriptures plus you dodged my previous question of if you accept Geneva Bible 1599 rendition of John 1:1-2;14 and why the Poison New World Translation Bible renders this different since you so love the Geneva Bible and cherry picked Daniel from it.

achorladey:


So for now bearing children is good but not God's will as most people thought

Dey read your post well before posting. So you won't get into the realm of stating marriage is forbidden as well and you ended up among this who were doing that during the time of Paul. Children the psalmist say are precious gift from God. Why will God give something not part of his will and keep aiding people give birth hopelessly as stated in your post.

Janosky:
The man who made the MISLEADING claim that "eating & drinking" in his Bible is not alcohol consumption even though "deep drinking dey him Bible, Romans 13:13.

Janosky:
Even when he knows that drinking alcohol is a popular in all Mediterranean cultures ,inclusive of Jewish culture. Yet, he claimed that his church doctrine is superior to Scriptures.

Janosky:
Bros, your claim is Spurious,abeg park well jare

MaxInDHouse:
I will respond to this because it's the topic of discussion!
Most people believe it's God's will for everyone to have a child but there are many servants of God in Bible times who never had a child.
When meditating on his purpose in life Jeremiah cursed the day he was born {Jeremiah 20:14}
Jeremiah never married so he had no children that's why some Jews taught Jesus was Jeremiah! Matthew 16:13-14
I never said it's not a good gift but the purpose is meaningless now that we have baby factories where girls are kept only to produce babies for sale. Of course that's not the purpose why God brought the precious gift.

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
When an evil spirit is driven out from someone but the person refused to fill the empty space with God's Holy Spirit then the demon will return with seven more wicked spirit and the end of such a person will be worse! Matthew 12:43-45

achorladey:

It is meaningless because some certain people decides to sell their own babies. Even those babies sold are still useful to those who decided to buy them. Do you agree? You won't be here typing had someone adopted this kind of thinking you won't be on nairaland.

Janosky:


God was spoken of as "God and his angels". I guess God changed to Michael since its only Michael that command angels".
**1
Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible & Geneva Bible..
Double wahala for Trinity GIBBERISH.
Bros, Your denial of this verse "angel of the Lord/Jesus Christ, deh this thread oooo.




**2.
"Simply put the God you see in the old testament is that Jesus".

Since they were all referred as having their angels."

Bros, is it now crystal clear to you that "THEY" are separate beings?
Double wahala for Trinity Fraud.

true2god:
’Eating and drinking’ in the Bible has no different meaning from ’Eating and drinking’ outside the Bible. I told you that over 99% of people that eat and drink, drink water while the rest might take other beverages with their food (alcoholic and non-alcoholic). Making a blanket claim that wherever ’Eating and drinking’ appears mean eating and drinking alcoholic beverages stems from ignorance, stupidity, or poor comprehension and analytical skill which is a prerequisite for being a good False Witness (Jehovah’s witness)


For a thing to be popular doesn’t make it right. The Bible in countless occasions condemned the taking of alcohol. That your organization approves the taking of beer, hard liquor and other hard liquid substance doesn’t make it right. Your organisation had make many things lawful in the past which, when their light becomes darker, makes it unlawful now. It seems you are grossly ignorant of how your organization operates.

Proverbs 23:20f: "Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags."

Isaiah 5:11f: "Woe to those who rise early in the morning to run after their drinks, who stay up late at night till they are inflamed with wine.

Genesis 9:20-26 – Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.

Genesis 19:30-38 – Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality.

It is even ironic that, while the Bible never condemned birthday in any place, watchtower condemned it because of bad occurrences during two occasions birthday was mentioned in the Bible. You must be unstable and inconsistent to be a loyal JW.

Keep worshipping the 8-men at Brooklyn, NY (US) who are in-charge of how you think and behave.

maximunimpact:

Much respect for your wisdom man!
This is like the wisdom Falseprophet displayed that turned MaxInDHouse from cyber bully to sanctimonious hypocrite.
You couldn't have said it better!

MaxInDHouse:
I'm still waiting for your response regarding the topic of discussion.
But if you're not interested in that please take a deep breath and open your own thread then invite me so we can discuss on whatever is bothering your mind against JWs.
Thanks for the concern and may you have PEACE!

maximunimpact:

Nothing is bordering my mind man.
Just answer the question below if you can:

MaxInDHouse:
OK let me relieve you of this heavy burden.

So please ask the question because I won't waste my data checking your post!

MaxInDHouse:
Life is good generally Sir, but the situation we find ourselves is not palatable that's what God's servants are saying. This is not how God planned it in the beginning.
As for the baby factories it would have been nice if all the children were adopted but sadly most of the children are sold to ritualists!

achorladey:

Whatever people do with their children is an account they will give later. That some use theirs for rituals is not enough to say childbearing now is meaningless. Even if that is not how planned, God still use the purpose of childbearing to accomplish many of his purpose up till and beyond the birth of Jesus Christ.

maximunimpact:

You are the one carrying the burden of deceit and faking sanctimonious gentility, just answer this damn question or forever remain under chains

MaxInDHouse:
I don't know what you want exactly.
Can you please explain what you want?

maximunimpact:

Classic JWs style, always dodging when they get caught.
My question is quite simple answer or forever remain under chains: