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Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by olowo1930: 9:36am On Jul 13, 2021
A Confused state in the world when clueless people are always helmof affair, nothing is working at all
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by xeju: 9:37am On Jul 13, 2021
Beancounter93:
Who told you the number the bandits used to call you...was their real number?

Remember the recent kidnap case in Abuja where the kidnappers demanded payment in bitcoin? They traced the number...to a random hawker in one of the markets. When questioned, the guy said one random woman bought his sim. Of course...he could not describe the woman..and he had never met her before in his life...nor did he see her again.

For all we know, them bandits have lots of such numbers...stolen, registered by proxies, or bought...and use their real numbers for non-criminal activities.

Modified

A better alternative would be to track the bandits via triangulation off the nearest mobile antenna.

Also, let's be honest. Our police gets 2 billion dollars to police 200 million people. NYPD of the USA gets 10 billion dollars to police 25 million people. Nigeria needs to change the way we run our economy to earn enough to fund our law enforcement adequately.
This your story sensible abi or you feel you dey talk with small children. Why do we have people that always give excuse for mediocrity?
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Joromi1: 9:41am On Jul 13, 2021
But zombies have been jubilating that banditry has drastically reduced following senior terrorist Pantami imposition of NIN. I wonder how they're going to take this exposition. Or would they also call it a propaganda?
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by NGArmyTerrorist: 9:42am On Jul 13, 2021
ignis:


https://punchng.com/bandits-expose-sim-nin-linkage-failure-police-cant-track-gunmen/?utm_medium
You made a very Big mistake of your life by given Chief bandits, bandits phone numbers to track them down! Na laugh I dey laugh una wey be Nigerians. Since there's no more roadblocks in the East police, Army and co. Now turned into bandits which is still another wing or department of Boko Haram terrorist to milk those seen as Nigerians. Make una enjoy! 4 x 4 x4!
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by piagetskinner(m): 9:45am On Jul 13, 2021
The know what they’re doing.. they’ve been given orders from above not to go after bandits and Boko haram..



Buhari’s grand plan is to islamize Nigeria by force..
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by becky39000(m): 9:46am On Jul 13, 2021
IITTA50:
did the hawker reported the sim card in a police station? What gave the assurance that the hawker is an ordinary person? Sim-nin can't do anything, that's the whole truth

Why would he "report the sim card in a police station" when he sold his sim himself?!!

Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by nedekid: 9:50am On Jul 13, 2021
Beancounter93:
Who told you the number the bandits used to call you...was their real number?

Remember the recent kidnap case in Abuja where the kidnappers demanded payment in bitcoin? They traced the number...to a random hawker in one of the markets. When questioned, the guy said one random woman bought his sim. Of course...he could not describe the woman..and he had never met her before in his life...nor did he see her again.

For all we know, them bandits have lots of such numbers...stolen, registered by proxies, or bought...and use their real numbers for non-criminal activities.

Modified

A better alternative would be to track the bandits via triangulation off the nearest mobile antenna.

Also, let's be honest. Our police gets 2 billion dollars to police 200 million people. NYPD of the USA gets 10 billion dollars to police 25 million people. Nigeria needs to change the way we run our economy to earn enough to fund our law enforcement adequately.
Oga, I think all these is just story, there is no political will to track bandits etc simply because they are Fulani. All these are just excuses. How did they track all those ipob, and unknown gun men etc?
How did they track someone I knew through landing from Abuja and staging to be DHL, grabbing me and leading to the fellow? I have experienced them personally and I know if they want to find any phone and anybody in this country and abroad, they can! Do you know they can activate your camera on your phone and see through it? You microphone nko? See your text, read your whatsapp etc.. They also triangulate easily on non internet phones? Even if you change your sim, they use your phone imei number to know the new sim on the phone?
Forget matter jare, if you want to get anyone they easily can.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Matrixoba: 9:53am On Jul 13, 2021
A woman just walked up to you from nowhere, asked you to sell a registered sim to her and you did. She doesn't know the nearest MTN office. This your story is crooked. That means that the whole exercise is futile.
My brother, just leave the people with their politics unless you are a member yourself. The system is not working. Don't justify nothing. Imagine after all these your support, one day you find yourself in the hands of bandits using SIMs to make calls demanding for millions from your family. Then you will understand.
But I don't wish you that
Beancounter93:


The hawker sold his sim card to a woman who asked him to sell it to her...a woman he did not know at all. At no point did he know what the card would be used for, until the cops came knocking.

And we need a database of some sorts. That's why SIM-NIN linkage is important.

Infact, one reason why we need the linkage...people were buying pre-registered SIMS(essentially one guy can buy 50 sims, register them in his name, and then sell them on to individuals who don't want to wait in line for SIM registraiton)...which can make it dififcult to track kidnappers and bandits...who would buy such sims.

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Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by SenecaTheYonger: 9:59am On Jul 13, 2021
NIN was supposed to track EndSARS protesters if it ever repeated itself again. It’s not for political thugs, aka bandits. The government knows who and where they live
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Mayniaa: 10:01am On Jul 13, 2021
Splitmind:
Fake kidnap victims. I'm sure they even planned their fake kidnaps to swindle their family members.

The police are too smart for their tricks.

Why didn't the police arrest them then for lying, isn't that an offence?
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:04am On Jul 13, 2021
Matrixoba:
A woman just walked up to you from nowhere, asked you to sell a registered sim to her and you did. She doesn't know the nearest MTN office. This your story is crooked. That means that the whole exercise is futile.
My brother, just leave the people with their politics unless you are a member yourself. The system is not working. Don't justify nothing. Imagine after all these your support, one day you find yourself in the hands of bandits using SIMs to make calls demanding for millions from your family. Then you will understand.
But I don't wish you that

Forget politics. Criminals are far far intellgient.

Plus we don't know why the guy sold his SIM. Could have been broke, or could have felt he needed to dispose of one of his two sims...

I'm not into your North-South fight by the way.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:06am On Jul 13, 2021
nedekid:

Oga, I think all these is just story, there is no political will to track bandits etc simply because they are Fulani. All these are just excuses. How did they track all those ipob, and unknown gun men etc?
How did they track someone I knew through landing from Abuja and staging to be DHL, grabbing me and leading to the fellow? I have experienced them personally and I know if they want to find any phone and anybody in this country and abroad, they can! Do you know they can activate your camera on your phone and see through it? You microphone nko? See your text, read your whatsapp etc.. They also triangulate easily on non internet phones? Even if you change your sim, they use your phone imei number to know the new sim on the phone?
Forget matter jare, if you want to get anyone they easily can.

But there is political will to bomb and attack them from the air and ground....(and that is fine by me)

Plus MNK anyway, and your guy are using the modern communications service far more than your average bandit.

(And no, I am not justifying anything, and I am infact wishing them bandits were caught)

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Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:07am On Jul 13, 2021
xeju:

This your story sensible abi or you feel you dey talk with small children. Why do we have people that always give excuse for mediocrity?

Because you think I am giving excuse for mediocrity, when in reality, I am outling the problem, and then subtly criticising the government for not doing enough about it.

Thank you and good am.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:08am On Jul 13, 2021
charixel:


SIM NIN linkage can't work

Simple system that can work starts from the health system, education and labour market

Then vote for a government that would have a database that covers everyone from the big town to the remote small village.

Simples.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:09am On Jul 13, 2021
StaffofOrayan:


You are not making any iota of sense!
The idea is to geo locate the Sim card to the nearest mast and then coordinate where the sim was last used or being used!

They don't go to the address of the registered owner of the simcard!

Damn!

And the person using the SIM is prolly not in the same area as the bandits are....

Criminals are not as dull as we think they are.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:10am On Jul 13, 2021
malvisguy212:
oga, the government get hand in this mess we found ourselves, a reedem pastor who was kidnapped say it, in fact soldiers are the ones selling weapons to them, so which security agency are you talking about that will track the Sim ?

Good, then vote for the right kind of government

But since most of you back APC and PDP, and when we tell you to vote both of them out, or to run for office yourself...you cry that the Hasuas are too powerful, or that you don't have the power....we just sit down and keep on looking at you.

Atittudes like this is how we got Buhari and all his corrupt PDP predecessors in office.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:11am On Jul 13, 2021
Beancounter93:


And the person using the SIM is prolly not in the same area as the bandits are....

Criminals are not as dull as we think they are.

These people are not hiding!
They roll into town with bikes,
Governors and shieks visit them,
The government claims the bandits are actually the victims here!
But of course they are your people
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:12am On Jul 13, 2021
sylve11:


You're making sense until your last paragraph.

As if they haven't been allocating money to NPF that they embezzled at will.

Abegi embarassed cool

So we should keep on underfunding the NPF so that armed bandits and criminals and Boko and company can play ludo on our heads for millions....because they might embezzle it?

Why don't you people use the tools of demcoracy you have to stop such embezzlement?

Stop waiting for people to do things for you.

And stop expecting a Porsche at the cost of a bicycle.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:13am On Jul 13, 2021
ceejay10:
let's stop falling for the deceit of these guys. They are never serious about tracking terrorists and bandits. They know what to do when serious.

Okay, you Nigerians deserve the government you have...since you do not know the power you have.

Stop complaining then.

Good morning.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:14am On Jul 13, 2021
ceejay10:
defender in chief. Well-done o.

Read the last paragraph of what I wrote, and then change your opinion.

Good morning.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by jaxxy(m): 10:19am On Jul 13, 2021
Beancounter93:
Who told you the number the bandits used to call you...was their real number?

Remember the recent kidnap case in Abuja where the kidnappers demanded payment in bitcoin? They traced the number...to a random hawker in one of the markets. When questioned, the guy said one random woman bought his sim. Of course...he could not describe the woman..and he had never met her before in his life...nor did he see her again.

For all we know, them bandits have lots of such numbers...stolen, registered by proxies, or bought...and use their real numbers for non-criminal activities.

Modified

A better alternative would be to track the bandits via triangulation off the nearest mobile antenna.

Also, let's be honest. Our police gets 2 billion dollars to police 200 million people. NYPD of the USA gets 10 billion dollars to police 25 million people. Nigeria needs to change the way we run our economy to earn enough to fund our law enforcement adequately.

I don’t understand what U are talking about? Are u tracking 200million people? The police isn’t the only security agency. They have capabilities to track any lines so why can’t they track ordinary bandits? Their location is even known to gumi and many security agents yet nothing is done.

Even America doesn’t have enough funding bt they get the job done when important. There is no excuses.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by malvisguy212: 10:20am On Jul 13, 2021
Beancounter93:


Good, then vote for the right kind of government

But since most of you back APC and PDP, and when we tell you to vote both of them out, or to run for office yourself...you cry that the Hasuas are too powerful, or that you don't have the power....we just sit down and keep on looking at you.

Atittudes like this is how we got Buhari and all his corrupt PDP predecessors in office.
so who did you vote for? .............I did not vote for neither party. this APC party is the worst in the history of Nigeria.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:23am On Jul 13, 2021
WaffenSS:


You can bet 1.9b of the 2b is pilfered by the higher-ups.

I can bet, like you do, that what we see is what we can get for 2 billion to police 200 million people.

One thing about Nigeria's economy, which is why I don't like Buhari...is that our economy is dependent on the price of oil. APC was voted to change that paradigm...and so far they have not.

Most African economies are dependent on the price of one or two resources we sell. When the price falls , the economy falls...and we take loans to make the difference. When the price rises, we have to pay back the loans and take new ones, because we lost money paying back the previous loans.....

Meanwhile, countries like CHina , Japan and South Korea long since learned that it is being an exporter of industrial products that is the road to prosperityespecially since you set your prices (unlike oil and copper where prices are set in London and New York).

To make matters worse...we think we can live off the proceeds of the revenue of our resources whose provenance is volatile....meanwhile most deveopied countries tax and tax and tax...in addition to their revenue

Nigeria is

1. Not earning enough from oil

2.Not earning enough from taxes...tax to gdp is 6.1%, 30% of the taxable population pays taxes.


And all this adds up to the police getting one fifth of what the NYPD gets to police a population ten times what the NYPD policies. It's why our police always seems so incompetent. The corruption of course, exists as a side effect.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by ignis: 10:23am On Jul 13, 2021
JesseJo:


Terrible reporting by a dullard.


Who is the dullard now?
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:26am On Jul 13, 2021
malvisguy212:
so who did you vote for? .............I did not vote for neither party. this APC party is the worst in the history of Nigeria.

Never voted for APC or PDP either...usually go for a smaller party like KOWA, YDP, or NCP.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Philipxxxx0: 10:26am On Jul 13, 2021
Beancounter93:
Who told you the number the bandits used to call you...was their real number?

Remember the recent kidnap case in Abuja where the kidnappers demanded payment in bitcoin? They traced the number...to a random hawker in one of the markets. When questioned, the guy said one random woman bought his sim. Of course...he could not describe the woman..and he had never met her before in his life...nor did he see her again.

For all we know, them bandits have lots of such numbers...stolen, registered by proxies, or bought...and use their real numbers for non-criminal activities.

Modified

A better alternative would be to track the bandits via triangulation off the nearest mobile antenna.

Also, let's be honest. Our police gets 2 billion dollars to police 200 million people. NYPD of the USA gets 10 billion dollars to police 25 million people. Nigeria needs to change the way we run our economy to earn enough to fund our law enforcement adequately.
The country you are talking about has state police, what stop Nigeria to start state policing, most we all still leave in stone age constitution and expect better things.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by xynerise: 10:29am On Jul 13, 2021
I dey laugh those hoping for a better Nigeria grin
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:30am On Jul 13, 2021
jaxxy:


I don’t understand what U are talking about? Are u tracking 200million people? The police isn’t the only security agency. They have capabilities to track any lines so why can’t they track ordinary bandits? Their location is even known to gumi and many security agents yet nothing is done.

Even America doesn’t have enough funding bt they get the job done when important. There is no excuses.

What you are saying is the equivalent of asking a man earning a salary of N20000 a month(his only income) why he hasn't bought a Ferrari or a Mercedes Benz e-class.

Our police is underfunded...and we have to find the funds by

1.Getting our economy off Niger delta oil and looking for other side hustles...like industries long term, taxation short term

2.Voting out APC and PDP in 2023.

Period.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:32am On Jul 13, 2021
Livefreeordieha:
shigidi ati shokpono go keeeeee u and ur likes!!!!

Thanks for wishing death on my person

I can only wish you and yours a prosperous rest of the year, and an even better years to come.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by Nobody: 10:34am On Jul 13, 2021
Philipxxxx0:
The country you are talking about has state police, what stop Nigeria to start state policing, most we all still leave in stone age constitution and expect better things.

We don't have state police, because it means

1.The states would have to fund it, which means heavy taxes for everyone...which you people don't like. (All those state and local police in the US are funded by heavy taxes...not by oil coming out of a well)

2.In the event of tribal warfare in one state, guess whose side the state police would be on (and it won't be the indigenes).

The Federal police, as bad as it is, is the least worst outcome.
Re: Bandits Expose SIM-NIN Linkage Failure, Police Can’t Track Gunmen by jaxxy(m): 10:36am On Jul 13, 2021
Beancounter93:


What you are saying is the equivalent of asking a man earning a salary of N20000 a month(his only income) why he hasn't bought a Ferrari or a Mercedes Benz e-class.

Our police is underfunded...and we have to find the funds by

1.Getting our economy off Niger delta oil and looking for other side hustles...like industries long term, taxation short term

2.Voting out APC and PDP in 2023.

Period.

Is the dss underfunded? Is the army underfunded? Are they not part of the security system? Don’t they collaborate and work together on sensitive issues so what’s the problem when it comes to bandits?? undecided

The police can handle all high level cases infact most they always collaborate.

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