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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:29pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 12:30pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
donstan18:as usual you don't understand what we are talking about You suddenly think this is about my hate for British Some are saying that i'm in support of racism How can I hate and support racism at the same time? If you are offending both sides on any subject, you are saying the truth |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:32pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Emmynator:it's actually good It makes certain things more realistic, like hi Werner only missed 7 expected goals and in full view didn't cost much points. How Some of those goals would have been created by Mount who had an extra 5 expected assists |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:36pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter: The attacks on Sterling, Rashford and Saka have been specifically about their race, explicitly calling them monkey, nigger, coon etc. That's racist. The attacks on Morata, Beckham, Werner etc have been in reference to things they did (in Werner's case things he did not do) on the pitch. The attacks have not been in reference to the colour of their skin which has NOTHING to do with football. Whilst there's no justification whatsoever for sending death threats to a footballer, there is a distinction between attacking an individual for his actions, and attacking an individual(and by extension his entire race) for the colour of the skin he was born with. 23 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 12:36pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter:There's no sport where their athlete get criticized but there's criticism and there's also criticism... I've seen matches where utd lost and rashford even performed more than their other key players but he keeps being repeatedly singled out for insults cuz of his skin..the cases of ozil and morata still exist but they are isolated cases compared to majority of insult aimed at black people...just look at the case of balotelli, even when he performed for Italy was still being insulted...lastly, I don't want to reply that clown but imagine stanning a player like havertz who flopped for Chelsea but complaining that rashford who scored 21 goals for utd was using the colour of his skin to avoid criticism...just imagine if havertz was black and he dropped some of those performances for Chelsea last season.. 10 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:38pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
CAPdan21:when was the last time united had a black star footballer? Strange after googling, why na Rashford dem dey insult pass, wetin him do them. Was Nani affected like this? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 12:39pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
CAPdan21: So funny, Havertz fan dragging Rashford. Ment. 11 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:42pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Rashford last season gave 35+ G/A for his club despite injuries. Fraudvertz gave 18 G/A for Chelsea, this is a player that was signed 75m+. But according to our resident Cotonou truth sayer, Rashford isn’t giving his best and should be called monkey and chimpanzee, while Fraudvertz should be hyped as a talented player. One day, some kind rubbish go load for this thread. 14 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:46pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Just checked, Sterling gave ManCity 26 G/A despite being dropped for some games. He made Euro TOTT, but he should be called a monkey and racially abused, while a sluggish flop like Fraudvertz should be hyped. Impressive!! 15 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 12:51pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
swiz123: Kane's quality is also evident in Tottenham's league position, lmao. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 12:52pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
donstan18:flop, average, monkey, idoit, Penaldo are all words People will only pick what works to attack you with, nobody will call dangote poor cause he wouldn't be offended but they can call him aboki or government pet If Rashford was white and he didn't perform they will find a word for him, it's because he is black and they know that racist words gets to him, obama has been called many racist names, go and see how he handled it, crying and playing racist card is for the weak, rashford is only using it to hide the reasons behind the attacks All i'm saying is if people decided to use racist slurs to attack you because you aren't performing, you can either step up and shut them up Or you go to social media to rally blacks to fight against people that are only coming after you because you didn't perform Rashford only gets attacked when he underperforms, happened after the europa league final and after the penalty shoot out Havertz won a fuckin champions league, was one of the stand out players in that final, what did Rashford win for his club, did he stand out at the final? Una sabi talk nonsense, I wouldn't explain why havertz season was like that again Evra played for united, Ferdinand played for united, is Rashford the first black player playing for united or England? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:57pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: If you recall our conversation about Ozil and Ulli 3yrs ago, Ulli didn't use any slur yet he was tagged racist for criticizing Ozil. The same Ulli is using the same words to hit Kroos now.. Moratas wife was called a bitchh online (not like she can change being born female) and even when his family come to stadium wearing his jersey. They were posting that they hope his children has dog cancer There are always references to your culture from online retards when it's time to insult, there is always a slur that fits 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 12:59pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Some people need to be banned from using the internet...One foolish sadistic bastard is using this space to promote hate and dangerous agendas...donno why people reply him sef, someone that's just looking for attention.. I've known people like this, once u ignore them they'll crawl back to the hole they came out from 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 12:59pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: Into the box passes for DM player, hmm, agenda must agend. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:02pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
I’m beginning to feel uncomfortable with this Halland transfer talks, e don too long. I can’t remember any player performing very well after transfer hypes. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:03pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
CAPdan21: What is the difference between criticism and criticism? Escobar was actually shot dead, others have been threatened with death too. Or what could be worse than someone threatening to rape 3yr old daughter. A young German girl was shown on the screen crying and Wembley cheered. Some online people called her a bitchh in reference to the gender she was born with Some of the choice words she got were "Cry you little Nazi”, “German slag”, “Stupid bitch” for daring to cry after her country lost a match (What could she have done about being born German or her Great grandfather living during the time of Nazis, or being born female) Sani Kaita gt a red card in 2010 And from fellow Nigerians, abokiis on the street who dont even watch football were getting insults. Not like Kaita can do anything about being born a Northerner 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 1:10pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Hoeness was not 'tagged' racist. It's like you've forgotten what happened. Ozil took a picture with Turkish president and was roundly attacked for it in Germany. He retired for what he perceived to be racist treatment following his photo,and the Uli Hoeness came out to say Ozil was 'hiding behind the erdogan photo' to cover the fact that he was 'sheet'... Please dont weaken the conversation by drawing non-existent comparisons to Kroos criticism. Did Hoeness reference anything else outside football when he discussed Kroos? 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:15pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: Hoeness mainly attacked Ozils football and he said clearly he has been a weak link for long and Bayern even targets him whenever they play Arsenal Quoted by German newspaper Bild, Hoeness said: “I’m glad this nightmare is over. He has been playing crap for years. That was when Ozil claimed his exclusion was because of picture and racism. Ulli told him its not about a photo its about football. Ulli there kept it about football just like he did with Kroos 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sniper04(m): 1:43pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Chelsea get match today |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sniper04(m): 1:44pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 1:47pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: I'm really trying to see what raumdeuter is trying to point out and relate it to what was being applied to Rashford, Saka and other black players; it doesn't just make sense. When I read what the resident lunatic on your thread posted, I just got reminded how literally stupid humans can be. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 1:49pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter: I can see you're prepared to make excuses for your Legend, but not on my watch. This is the timeline 1. Ozil took a picture with Erdogan, the president of the country of his ancestors 2. The German FA came out to say the following immediately The DFB of course respects the special situation for our players with migrant backgrounds, but football and the DFB stands for values that Mr. Erdogan does not sufficiently respect. 3. The head of the German FA at the time Reinhard Grindel said this about Ozil: Many fans were disappointed because they had questions for [Mesut] and expected an answer 4. Gundogan was booed during matches While Özil is injured, Gündogan is booed in Leverkusen. The whistles of Germany's own fans followed Gündogan's every touch of the ball in Austria six days ago too, creating a tough situation for the player and a nightmare for the coach, who applauded Gündogan and provided his player with unwavering support. 5. Oliver Bierhoff who was on the German coaching team at the time said Ozil should have been dropped from the team for not explaining why he took a picture with the Turkish President Özil never offered an explanation, and was even allowed to skip the otherwise compulsory media day at the pre-World Cup training camp in Austria. In the Welt interview, Bierhoff said that as a result, he and his staff should have seriously considered leaving him out of the final squad for Russia. 6. An official member of the German Supporters club writes an open letter to the German FA saying: It would have been your duty To hit the table here and say: "Performance or not, something like that is definitely not possible!" With all the multicultural diversity and no-racism fuss. A German national player cannot stand behind a Turkish president (and certainly not behind the current one!) - then he should play for Turkey. 7. So of course Ozil quit the team, saying: “In the eyes of Grindel and his supporters, I am German when we win, but I am an immigrant when we lose,”Recall that the statement from the German FA literally described him as coming from an Immigrant Background. So all this one you're saying that it's about football is complete wass. The guy went through a lot and quit because of how he was treated. Uli Hoeness in his dismissal of everything that happened to Ozil is very suggestive of racist or discriminatory thinking. Someone was condemned by the National Team Coach, the German FA, the German FA president, the supporters club, German fans, German Media etc, and then Uli Hoeness had the gall to say he was 'hiding' behind the the photo when the man quit. Egbon stop it abeg. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:01pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: Ulli specifically mentioned Ozils football in his criticism and Ozil alleging racism and "hiding behind a photo" is to deflect from his horrible football. Its not unusual of how many football analyst and followers have described Ozils football. I am sure there have been many refernce to Ozil as being lazy. WHich is what Ulli said too Below is Ullis criticism of Kroos which is errily similar to what he said of Ozil 3 yrs ago "I like Kroos a lot, he put in some world class performances and was great at Bayern, but his style of play is outdated," Hoeness said. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:06pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
elrony: The point is fans are generally stupidd and many things and actions have been taken against players some players have been killed, some have been attacked, some families have been attacked, footballers daughters and wifes have been threatened with violence and harm In the same tournament, a young girl crying after a loss was called names like Nazi and bitchh. Online anonymity gives a platform for the basest instinct to come out, even for things you have no direct link to or have no controls over(your race, your sex, your body shape, your ancestors, your weight, the food you eat, your anatomy) My question was simple. Is it possible to insult and attack someone of a different race without being racist? Like Ulli did to Ozil and was tagged racist but he did the same to Kroos |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 2:18pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter: This is pure crap Ozil had quit the national team and said he did so because of the way he was treated. Uli Hoeness said he was glad Ozil was gone because he was hiding behind a photo Why did Hoeness feel the need to minimise the trials that Ozil was going through at the time? And how is that even different to the nonsense Jude was saying earlier? Mind you Hoeness himself is on record saying I wanted to make a point of diverting the conversation back towards sport. I wanted to divert it away from racism and integration. Why was it so important to divert the conversation away from racism and integration, at the time when Ozil was saying he was sick of being labelled an immigrant by the German FA, being booed by German Fans, bring hounded by German media, and even being attacked by German politicians? Why is it at that very particular time that Hoeness felt that Ozil was hiding behind all of that? Could Hoeness not have called Ozil crap without accusing Ozil of 'hiding' behind racist abuse? What does one have to do with the other in terms of criticism? Egbon stop it abeg 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 2:19pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Emmynator: Kane has the most goals and most assist in the just concluded EPL. What else do you want him to do? Turn to keeper? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:27pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Yes it is possible. But how is this relevant to the current situation in which explicitly racist terms were used in attacking Rashford, Sancho, and Saka? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:33pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Mine was specific about the Ulli vs Ozil vs Kroos issue since the Kroos criticism currently which happened 2-3days ago was very similar to what was used for Ozil 3yrs ago |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:37pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: Ulli said he was glad Ozil was gone because of his horrible football. To Ulli, Ozil whether he took the picture or not should not be part of the team anymore because of his play 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 2:43pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Uli was fully aware that Ozil was complaining about his perceived racist treatment and said I wanted to make a point of diverting the conversation back towards sport. I wanted to divert it away from racism and integration. Can you explain why Uli needed to divert the conversation away from Racism? Why is someone complaining about Racism a subject that needs to be diverted away? How is that different to this? Havertz10: 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:50pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: Ulli wants to talk about Ozils football not about taking pictures with Erdogan. Making the talking point about his photo is distracting from the main point which is the quality of football. Werner is shitt at scoring, but he wants to talk about how the coach does not like him as a reason for getting dropped, You are getting dropped because you cannot score and not about how the coach doesnt like you Its different because players like Saka and Sterling(who has been Englands best player) are getting attacked sometimes without provocation. Sterling can as much as kiss his daughter or post a picture in a restaurant while on vacation Saka stepped up where other senior players chickened out and someone will call him monkey |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:55pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
I don't know if black people are getting worked up by the racism those three boys received but from my Watsapp messages I believe so. My take is there will always be a minority of racists in any country at any time, whether that's 1% or 3% or 5%. That's why we have minority far-right groups like BNP, National Front, English Defence League and so on. As long as they stay minority, it is never a problem as they don't affect the policies of the societies we live in. Given that these people are there, they are bound to show up on Social media. Have we counted how many racist messages were received by Rashford and co? Is it material enough for black people in the UK to make it a central theme of discuss over the last week, or is it in line with a minority population which we know exist and can never be eradicated completely. The issue for me from a statistical point of view is in some of the Watsapp videos I've seen labelling Britain a racist society because a minute number of people decided to abuse Rashford and co. Why don't we just put this down to Social Media giving everyone a voice, including the 1% of Nazis we already know exist among us? 3 Likes |
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