STRI1:
Islam is Soo BEAUTIFUL...
It's wickedness to kill a sick or an I'll.animal, what if it has a disease and those that eat it will get infected ??

One of the main purpose of killing the ram is to make the festival a happy one for everyone, and everyone enjoys

Yeah so beautiful a sheikh just sentenced someone to death for blasphemy even when the individual was said to be sick but same Islam is more concerned about a sick animal.

Agbegbaorogboye:

AntiChristian, this man has raised solid points. Why are you stealing Jewish celebration as urs?
Why Isaac father of the Israelites and not Ishmael father of the Arabs?

My concern is not even the borrowing of tradition but rather why they contradict themselves with the symbolism of the very act

To Abraham it wasn't a test because he knew the outcome, it was a symbolic act to something bigger yet Muslims are confused about it

Why do people like detailing our peaceful Friday threads ?

Jazaakumullahu khyran to the op. It's another Friday, I know the Christians in their hatred and intolerance won't disappoint. E go soon clear for una eye, it's just a pity it'll be too late....

ALLAHU akbar,masha ALLAH

2dominate:

As for it been a borrowed tradition shows that as Islam claims no time has man been devoid of Allahs mercy
As all Islam believes that all previous prophets are from Allah
So the connection between me and Ibrahim/Abraham is that we both serve the same God

I think you should call someone more intelligent than you to debate me

You are borrowing an event that means nothing to you because you contradict the same act


Yes it was about mercy but why do you claim God can't send his own provision for mercy in physical representation by himself

Yet you believe in his "mercy"

ANTIlSLAM:


You guys don come again.. Come and defend allah from the below picture, let's see maybe I understand Islam or not

Are you confusing? The rewards for the doers to the He who accepts Ibaadat (worship)

Kindly be guided.

Abdoolbuster:


This exactly is how abdools try to escape reasonable questions but if it were a simple question they'll be boasting about how the Qur'an and Islam are a complete answer to all human questions
How it contain scientific miracles unknown to humanity 1400 years ago

Mr abdool give answer or accept that your Allah is a fragmentation of Mohammed's imagination and illusion

Atleast in our religion, they mention a place where it shows that we can do the celebration of eid, show me a place in your Bible that says you can do Christmas, nonsense

PussyKing:
Last time I checked Mohammed lashed underaged girls and that is pedophilic act.

After slaughtering cows he bleeps little girls

Well what do I know?

When you momma born you she must said
Oh Wat a beautiful baby boy
If she know you will grow up to be a bastard
She will have flush you
Bastard child

Bobby001:




Atleast in our religion, they mention a place where it shows that we can do the celebration of eid, show me a place in your Bible that says you can do Christmas, nonsense

All these rants is not the answer to the questions that I raised on page 1. Abdools are y'all this silly?

AntiChristian:


I don't know why. We hear and we obey. This is an atheist question. Wait till the Judgment day and ask Him.

chai and this is someone that went to school o and has a functional brain. So if they tell you to Kill ya mama and your children you will do it too . Because you hear and obey from thin air . Sha it’s not a surprise a majority of you are terrorists . Hearing and obeying Nonsense.

olarid01:
Jazaakumullahu khyran to the op. It's another Friday, I know the Christians in their hatred and intolerance won't disappoint. E go soon clear for una eye, it's just a pity it'll be too late....

oh so you are now confirming your evil terrorists plot to everyone here which one is e go soon clear for una eye? So y’all really have an evil agenda against christians . Religion of peace my ass. Y’all are just a bunch of blood thirsty insecure little egotistical cowards.

Abdoolbuster:


This exactly is how abdools try to escape reasonable questions but if it were a simple question they'll be boasting about how the Qur'an and Islam are a complete answer to all human questions
How it contain scientific miracles unknown to humanity 1400 years ago

Mr abdool give answer or accept that your Allah is a fragmentation of Mohammed's imagination and illusion

hahahahaha this is epic

FIRDAUS3:


Are you confusing? The rewards for the doers to the He who accepts Ibaadat (worship)

Kindly be guided.

So indeed your god will accept the blood of the sacrificial animals on the day of judgement right? Antichristian come and see your brother oo

Michealscofield:


When you momma born you she must said
Oh Wat a beautiful baby boy
If she know you will grow up to be a bastard
She will have flush you
Bastard child

But what I said was true na, why is it paining you?

ANTIlSLAM:


So indeed your god will accept the blood of the sacrificial animals on the day of judgement right? Antichristian come and see your brother oo

You're in delusions!

Surah Al-Anaam, Verse 20:
الَّذِينَ آتَيْنَاهُمُ الْكِتَابَ يَعْرِفُونَهُ كَمَا يَعْرِفُونَ أَبْنَاءَهُمُ الَّذِينَ خَسِرُوا أَنفُسَهُمْ فَهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ

Those whom We have given the Book recognize him as they recognize their sons; (as for) those who have lost their souls, they will not believe.

Surah Al-Anaam, Verse 21:
وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا أَوْ كَذَّبَ بِآيَاتِهِ إِنَّهُ لَا يُفْلِحُ الظَّالِمُونَ

And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah or (he who) gives the lie to His communications; surely the unjust will not be successful.

Which you'll never be
Its the Qur'an that Cursed you oo

Bobby001:




Atleast in our religion, they mention a place where it shows that we can do the celebration of eid, show me a place in your Bible that says you can do Christmas, nonsense

So copy copy is better than inventing your own thing. I see.
I thought Islam is the true religion

PussyKing:


But what I said was true na, why is it paining you?

Na Rubbish you say
Even you know it

AlphaAlex:
oh so you are now confirming your evil terrorists plot to everyone here which one is e go soon clear for una eye? So y’all really have an evil agenda against christians . Religion of peace my ass. Y’all are just a bunch of blood thirsty insecure little egotistical cowards.

Dindinrin agba, im be cile

Abeg muslims here should ignore the guys trying to discredit Islam

We should stick to the topic, the current age we're in, any sincere person can google any question they have and get good answers

Even on nairaland, there are appropriate threads for anyone seeking knowledge about any aspect of Islam in the Islam section

Alhamdulillah for being a muslim, any mocker mocks themselves ignorantly

Jazakallahu khairan may Allah keep us on the Straight Path. Ameen

AlphaAlex:
chai and this is someone that went to school o and has a functional brain. So if they tell you to Kill ya mama and your children you will do it too . Because you hear and obey from thin air . Sha it’s not a surprise a majority of you are terrorists . Hearing and obeying Nonsense.

I am educated. Maybe more than a lot in your family. I'm also brainy maybe more than....

Who told you to kill anyone? Can't you learn context and limit your utterance likewise?

It's apparent your skull contains nonsense! Do empty it numbskul!

Mikecold:
My concern is not even the borrowing of tradition but rather why they contradict themselves with the symbolism of the very act

To Abraham it wasn't a test because he knew the outcome, it was a symbolic act to something bigger yet Muslims are confused about it

How did Abraham know the outcome? You can as well tell us Abraham knew Jesus was to be crucified too!

Abeg How are you confused? Where is the contradiction?

You are the confused one. No Jew believe that the act was a pointer to your Crucifixtion. It was Paul that changed everything and twisted it with the concept of original sin.

Agbegbaorogboye:

AntiChristian, this man has raised solid points. Why are you stealing Jewish celebration as urs?
Why Isaac father of the Israelites and not Ishmael father of the Arabs?

Because Allah created all Prophets from Adam till Muhammad (Peace be upon them all) So our believe is that they are all Muslims.
Abraham is the father of all Prophets after him.

I should ask you why you still have the OT as part of your Bible. Moreso your Jesus died a Jew and not a Christian.

ANTIlSLAM:


So indeed your god will accept the blood of the sacrificial animals on the day of judgement right? Antichristian come and see your brother oo

The Hadith is graded Da'if just like you!

Check https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/19

AntiChristian:


How did Abraham know the outcome? You can as well tell us Abraham knew Jesus was to be crucified too!

Abeg How are you confused? Where is the contradiction?

You are the confused one. No Jew believe that the act was a pointer to your Crucifixtion. It was Paul that changed everything and twisted it with the concept of original sin.

See I didn't ask for Jews to believe any validation

They are not God, I am talking plain reality with the Bible and that's all that's necessary

Abraham as the Bible pointed out was aware his journey with Isaac won't hurt a fly from his house at the end - fact

Abraham walked with God as his friend, God is used to showing him deep stuff with symbolism ie the stars been an insight into his generation fact

You have not countered based on the Bible facts you are talking based on the opinion a certain people should hold to validate anything

AntiChristian:


The Hadith is graded Da'if just like you!

Check https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/19

But your brother agreed with the hadith that allah will accept the sacrificial blood of animals on judgement day. Are you guys contradicting each other? Or it doesn't favour your own belief

Mikecold:
Muslims tradition of slaughtering Rams stands very strong in Islam yet it is a borrowed tradition practiced by Abraham the father of the Jews

Why are you calling people by name such as Jew? Was Jesus not a Jew too? Even Muhammad is from a Jewish decent. So why the Jewish tag as if the Lord of the Jews is not the same Lord we worship! We call all those who worship Allah Muslims and that includes Abraham, Moses and others.

The practice was performed on Isaac who was the father of the chosen people.

We believe it was practiced on Isma'eel and not Is'aac.

There was a reason for that event but Muslims Know nothing about it, they claim it was a test of Abraham to kill isaac.

But if you look at the Bible clearly it wasn't a test
Genesis 22:5
And Abraham said into his young men, abide ye here with the ass, and i and the lad will go yonder and worship and come again to you

They went to worship. This sacrifice is the worship. And the child obeying his father by following him is worship to God.

Abraham here was telling his men he was coming again with Isaac after going up, you call it a test but he knew the outcome of the supposed test, does this still make it a test?
Genesis 22: 8
And Abraham said, my son God would provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering, so they both went together

Abraham couldn't have known the future before God and it's outcome, he definitely was briefed that it was a symbolic act he should emback on for something bigger

Indeed God provided his own sacrifice for his own self.

Has God not provided the sacrifice already? His son is the sacrifice! Abraham does not know the future just like Jesus.

He used Isaac as an illustration because Isaac was the begotten son of Abraham just like him having Jesus

This was why God had to wait for Isacc to be born and didn't use Ishmael

Abraham was aware it wasn't a test to him, and he wasn't going to kill isaac

This is where you are confused. Abraham never knew Jesus nor trinity nor of His God having son. If you claim Abraham had to use Isaac as his begotten son as your basis to prove John 3:16, then i'll say Abraham had two sons from two women, then show us the two sons and wives of your LORD?

So when Muslims gloat about this in ignorance without understanding the significance of that event I so laugh at them because they accept God provided a ram to sacrifice to his own self

Yet they don't accept how God can provide Jesus as sacrifice to his own self

You are not accepting that Abraham's son was the sacrifice. Why should we accept Jesus here? We also laugh when you gloat about your God sending his son to die...which father does that? And how is this much different from a blood ritual of the idolaters?

They say God doesn't do human sacrifice as reference to Jesus sacrifice yet they don't understand why same God would even fathom such an "ungodly test" for a man to kill his only son

1. Our God is far from having sons/Partners/helpers/Wives/etc. Since He is far of having this then the question of killing son does not set in. He can save us without the need to shed blood! He is majestic that He needs no one's help but all things come to Him in submission!

This is not even a matter of whether Abraham did the act but for such God to even voice it out means he doesn't see anything wrong with it and it makes sense if he can't accept such only because man can't give him a pure sacrifice but he can provide his own pure loved son as all expantiated in that story

Can't your God save people without sending His son to death? In all sense it is wrong for a father to send his son to die...

Tell anyone that the story of a father who sent his son to shed blood and die for the sins of his other sons and see the reactions. It's damn ritualist and idolatrous!

ANTIlSLAM:


But your brother agreed with the hadith that allah will accept the sacrificial blood of animals on judgement day. Are you guys contradicting each other? Or it doesn't favour your own belief

Agreed that you are da'if that's why your evidence is da'if. Allah is the one who accepts our acts of worship which includes Udhiyah.
But what you brought was not authentic. No contradiction except your skull vs your brain!

AntiChristian:


Because Allah created all Prophets from Adam till Muhammad (Peace be upon them all) So our believe is that they are all Muslims.
Abraham is the father of all Prophets after him.

I should ask you why you still have the OT as part of your Bible. Moreso your Jesus died a Jew and not a Christian.

Allah must be a tribal bigot to have chosen prophets only from the lineage of Abraham.
Why not choose from other tribes too abi they offended Allah?
OT which means Old Testament is part of the Bible for our information and learning, not to apply as a way of life. Jesus died a Jew being born of Jewish parents. But to all intents and purposes, he was not bound to the Jewish religion as he himself alluded to so many times.

FIRDAUS3:


You're in delusions!

Surah Al-Anaam, Verse 20:
الَّذِينَ آتَيْنَاهُمُ الْكِتَابَ يَعْرِفُونَهُ كَمَا يَعْرِفُونَ أَبْنَاءَهُمُ الَّذِينَ خَسِرُوا أَنفُسَهُمْ فَهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ

Those whom We have given the Book recognize him as they recognize their sons; (as for) those who have lost their souls, they will not believe.

Surah Al-Anaam, Verse 21:
وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا أَوْ كَذَّبَ بِآيَاتِهِ إِنَّهُ لَا يُفْلِحُ الظَّالِمُونَ

And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah or (he who) gives the lie to His communications; surely the unjust will not be successful.

Which you'll never be
Its the Qur'an that Cursed you oo

You too don shifted the goal post like your brother dallasi