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Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by BJanta: 2:33pm On Jul 18, 2021
sagenaija:

Have you asked yourselves why NO ARCHEOLOGICAL SUPPORT EXISTS TODAY IN MECCA TO SUPPORT ISLAM'S CLAIM IN ITS BOOKS ABOUT THAT CITY? I challenge you to show us if any exist.

Why do you ask this question?Islam is all about lies, falsehood, hypocrisy and '72 virgins ' and all that stuff.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by BnQoyyim(m): 2:34pm On Jul 18, 2021
Righteousness2:
JESUS Christ, the Most Important being Ever to Come on this Earth.

JESUS Christ, the One who came on this Earth and Paid the Price for the Sins of all Humanity by Dying on the Cross and Resurrecting after 3 days.

JESUS Christ , the Only Way for all of Humanity to be Saved.

JESUS Christ, the Only one who Decides the Fate of All Humanity in Eternity irrespective of whether you say you Believe Him or not.

JESUS Christ, the One who is Coming back anymoment from now to Snatch all that Believe in Him, Living Right and Ready.

Come to HIM today and be Saved! There is no More time..

How would you explain
Deuteronomy 21: 22-23. Which says that anyone hung (died) on the pole is Cursed.

During the acclaimed there days of his death before revive, who was ruling the world then?
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jul 18, 2021
Tovard:
I am getting to believe that both Christians, Muslims or Jew always originated from the same place, it was we Africans that misunderstood these religions.

How can a Muslims, Jew and Christians worshipped in the same building.

I don't know what you read but anyone who read the article will know that the Muslims are imposters at that site and the writer definitely a weak liberal white male is trying to be nice to Muslims instead of declaring boldly what all archeological findings are saying about the place that muslims are imposters at that place.

Reread again.

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Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jul 18, 2021
BnQoyyim:


How would you explain
Deuteronomy 21: 22-23. Which says that anyone hung (died) on the pole is Cursed.

During the acclaimed there days of his death before revive, who was ruling the world then?


How can a man as you claimed Jesus to be be said by Allah (Because Muslims agree that qu'ran is all the Word of Allah as recited by the mad possessed confusionist mentally unstable illiterate Pedophile Prophet MuhamMad).

how so can a "mere man/messenger" Jesus according to the Ignorant 99% Headslamming taqiyyist Muslims who don't know their qu'ran and hadiths still be said of in qu'ran 4:171. In this qur'an 4:171 where MuhamMad the mad possessed confusionist mentally unstable illiterate was trying to say that Jesus is not the Son of God. Satan inside the mugu Muhammad still contradicted himself by saying in the same Qu'ran 4:171 that Jesus is the Messenger, also the WORD OF ALLAH and the SPIRIT OF ALLAH. grin

Don't see that MuhamMad is a mentally unstable confusionist. How can a mere messenger he tried to call Jesus in Qu'ran 4:171 trying to deny that Jesus is the Son of God but still went ahead in same qu'ran 4:171 to say that Jesus is the very WORD of Allah and also the SPIRIT OF ALLAH. grin

MuhamMad is a mad possessed confusionist. How can a "mere man/messenger" Jesus be the very word and spirit of Allah. Does that make any sense?!!

By Jesus having these two Highest quality of Allah then MuhamMad, the mad mugu prophet has already declared JESUS AS GOD in the same Qu'ran 4:171 that HE was trying to deny JESUS AS SON OF GOD.

Why couldn't any of the prophets like Adam (only a prophet in Islam we don't know Adam's prophecy grin), Musa, Sulaimon, Dawud, etcetera be the Word and Spirit of Allah or even the Pedophile MuhamMad.

Why only Jesus Christ?!!

‘Isā (the Jesus of Mohammed) was only a messenger. It is far from
Allah’s glory to have a son. The Trinity is false. Notice that the Trinity
is clearly taught in this same verse. 1. ‘Isā is the messenger, the word of
Allah. 2. Allah is the father. 3. The spirit of Allah is the holy spirit.
Compare this to the Bible in John 1:1-3, 14.
171 O People of the Book, do not exaggerate in your religion and do not
speak against Allah, except the truth. Surely the Christ ‘Isā, son of Mary, is
only a messenger of Allah and his word, which he cast to Mary, and a spirit
from him
. So believe in Allah and his messengers, and do not say, "Three."
[54] Cease; it is better for you. Surely Allah is only one god. Praise be to
him that there would be to him a son. To him what is in the heavens and
what is on the earth, and Allah is a sufficient guardian.


Also, every sensible person knows that the Son of a human is a Human. The Child of a dog is a dog. That of a Goat becomes a Goat. Same quality like the Father. Having known that why of all the mere messengers. Why was only Jesus the one that Allah had to directed impregnate Mary(Mariam) in other to produce Jesus by blowing into Vagina ( cheesy you know MuhamMad was a bastard. All he thought about Sex, Sex and Sex whether with underage girls or adult women or his adopted son's wife, Zaynab or the 72 virgins in islamic paradise or the pearly homosexual boys in qu'ran. The mugu MuhamMad always thought about Sex all day to the extent he thought he had sex with all his wives in a day when he didn't in the hadiths grin)

Why did Allah impregnate Mary (Mariam) to produce Jesus according to Islam?! grin why did he just create Jesus as he did Adam? Jesus had no father according to Islam and never died but is currently with Allah while Adam created from mere clay is dead. Why is a mere man living for over 2000 years now if not God? Is it possible for a mere man to live for thousand of years if not God?!!

Muslims are mad possessed people without sense. If not they won't follow Pedophile Prophet Muhammad.

Allah’s spirit impregnated the Virgin Mary. Mohammed again
confuses Mary (Miriam), the daughter of Amran who was the sister of
Moses and Aaron, with Mary, the mother of Jesus. Notice the name of
Mary’s father is Heli, not Amran. See Luke 3:23.
12 And Mary, the daughter of Amran, who guarded her sexual parts, so we
breathed into it [5] from our spirit, and she believed in the words of her lord
and his books, and she was among the obedient.


‘Isā (the Jesus of Mohammed) was a virgin-born messenger (created by
Allah), but not Allah’s son. This story is repeated in verses 5:110-120
and 19:16-40. Concerning ‘Isā’s creation of the birds, Mohammed was
influenced by Chapter 2 in the Greek book, The Gospel of Thomas, and
also by Chapter 36 in an Arabic book, The Gospel of a Childhood.
45 When the angels said, "O Mary, surely Allah gives you the good news
with a word from him. His name is the Christ, ‘Isā, son of Mary, exalted in
this world and in the hereafter, and of the nearer brought to Allah.


grin
When you say I worship a mere man. Infact according to Islam which you don't know. I am actually worshipping the Word and Spirit of Allah=Jesus Christ (qu'ran 4:171)

Confused Muslims.

Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by Nobody: 2:38pm On Jul 18, 2021
musicwriter:


Yes, the Ramses stele mentioned "Israel" as a person or people not nation. However, the inscription said they were chased away NOT that they were stopped from leaving Egypt. So, you see, it doesn't tally with your bible Israelis who were stopped from leaving Egypt.

What you guys need to understand is that history is one thing and most of your bible stories are another.

[s]And I never said you should become an atheist. I am not an atheist myself but honestly it's better to be an atheist than to believe in Jesus or the bible god[/s].

Pure idiocy.

The facts are not in your Favour.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by Jeromejnr(m): 2:44pm On Jul 18, 2021
wirinet:

You are dumber than dumb. Corpanicus wrote a book (De revolutionibus orbium coelestium) with his name on it and the book is there for all to read. Joan of Arc was part of French history for leading the war to defeat their enemy/invaders. She was acknowledged for all her feats ( Maybe with bits of exaggeration). She was acknowledged by both friends and foes and forever honoured by her country. Her. Her full biography was know with family background. Till today France is very proud of her.

I don't know much about Macabees, Ephiphnes, King xerxes as I am no historian, but conquerors kings and leaders usually leave traces of their conquests in the history of the places and people they conquer.

Now tell me what evidence whatsoever you have both physical and even literally outside 3rd party narration by unknown authors from the new testament. What is family back ground? What is even his name? The title Khristós simply means Messiah. What is his family background and his descendants. How come he is not acknowledged and honoured by his people.

If you talk of Abraham, Joshua and David, I can concede they existed (though with exaggerations) but there is no trace of proof for Jesus.

You are just shooting yourself in the foot.

Joan of Arc was part of French history, how, because they told you?

Was Yeshua not part of Jewish history? Though many them don't see him as the Messiah. Didn't their Rabbi's write about him?

Romans also wrote about Jesus the miracle worker who had followers.

But no..because its Jesus..you are spewing ignorant comments.

As for Copernicus, who told you he was the one who wrote the book? So all the various writings from different disciples that wrote about Jesus over different years, they are not worthy to be considered?

Good thing you said you know nothing of history. Because you don't.

We would rather listen to the expert historians. Not one Mowe guy that is forming intellectual.

All these Nairaland kids sef.

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Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by helicoptarr: 2:52pm On Jul 18, 2021
onomeabuja:

This world no go end now , na only human bieng de END every single day......so which way we de now


The world has indeed ended for those who die today, same for all those who have died and didn't resurrect like Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


However, the great event which we have all heard about - the rapture - will definitely happen at a time no man knows.

And once it happens, trust me people, you don't want to be left here on earth.


Revelations 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”



Once it happens, no one will have time for anybody. You just have to be running for safety which won't exist anymore.
Some creatures you've been acquainted to in movies will come out of the ground and others from the sky to torment the stranded people.


Revelations 9:6
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.



When it happens, no one will have the time to say: "I told you so". Because all the sttanded people will be crushed by the awe of the fabric of the atmosphere void of grace, the regret and the scary and totally hateful, blasphemous and wicked creatures on the prowl.

Revelations 9:16
and they said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb!


Repent now! Tomorrow may be too late.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by musicwriter(m): 2:58pm On Jul 18, 2021
Qudsi:


Pure idiocy.

The facts are not in your Favour.

What facts are you talking about?

As smart Nairalander once "it's easier for an atheist to discover God than a Christian or Muslim."
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by AngelicBeing: 3:03pm On Jul 18, 2021
Righteousness2:
JESUS Christ, the Most Important being Ever to Come on this Earth.

JESUS Christ, the One who came on this Earth and Paid the Price for the Sins of all Humanity by Dying on the Cross and Resurrecting after 3 days.

JESUS Christ , the Only Way for all of Humanity to be Saved.

JESUS Christ, the Only one who Decides the Fate of All Humanity in Eternity irrespective of whether you say you Believe Him or not.

JESUS Christ, the One who is Coming back anymoment from now to Snatch all that Believe in Him, Living Right and Ready.

Come to HIM today and be Saved! There is no More time..
wink
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by 2dominate: 3:05pm On Jul 18, 2021
Qudsi:



How can a man as you claimed Jesus to be be said by Allah (Because Muslims agree that qu'ran is all the Word of Allah as recited by the mad possessed confusionist mentally unstable illiterate Pedophile Prophet MuhamMad).

how so can a "mere man/messenger" Jesus according to the Ignorant 99% Headslamming taqiyyist Muslims who don't know their qu'ran and hadiths still be said of in qu'ran 4:171. In this qur'an 4:171 where MuhamMad the mad possessed confusionist mentally unstable illiterate was trying to say that Jesus is not the Son of God. Satan inside the mugu Muhammad still contradicted himself by saying in the same Qu'ran 4:171 that Jesus is the Messenger, also the WORD OF ALLAH and the SPIRIT OF ALLAH. grin

Don't see that MuhamMad is a mentally unstable confusionist. How can a mere messenger he tried to call Jesus in Qu'ran 4:171 trying to deny that Jesus is the Son of God but still went ahead in same qu'ran 4:171 to say that Jesus is the very WORD of Allah and also the SPIRIT OF ALLAH. grin

MuhamMad is a mad possessed confusionist. How can a "mere man/messenger" Jesus be the very word and spirit of Allah. Does that make any sense?!!

By Jesus having these two Highest quality of Allah then MuhamMad, the mad mugu prophet has already declared JESUS AS GOD in the same Qu'ran 4:171 that HE was trying to deny JESUS AS SON OF GOD.

Why couldn't any of the prophets like Adam (only a prophet in Islam we don't know Adam's prophecy grin), Musa, Sulaimon, Dawud, etcetera be the Word and Spirit of Allah or even the Pedophile MuhamMad.

Why only Jesus Christ?!!

‘Isā (the Jesus of Mohammed) was only a messenger. It is far from
Allah’s glory to have a son. The Trinity is false. Notice that the Trinity
is clearly taught in this same verse. 1. ‘Isā is the messenger, the word of
Allah. 2. Allah is the father. 3. The spirit of Allah is the holy spirit.
Compare this to the Bible in John 1:1-3, 14.
171 O People of the Book, do not exaggerate in your religion and do not
speak against Allah, except the truth. Surely the Christ ‘Isā, son of Mary, is
only a messenger of Allah and his word, which he cast to Mary, and a spirit
from him
. So believe in Allah and his messengers, and do not say, "Three."
[54] Cease; it is better for you. Surely Allah is only one god. Praise be to
him that there would be to him a son. To him what is in the heavens and
what is on the earth, and Allah is a sufficient guardian.


Also, every sensible person knows that the Son of a human is a Human. The Child of a dog is a dog. That of a Goat becomes a Goat. Same quality like the Father. Having known that why of all the mere messengers. Why was only Jesus the one that Allah had to directed impregnate Mary(Mariam) in other to produce Jesus by blowing into Vagina ( cheesy you know MuhamMad was a bastard. All he thought about Sex, Sex and Sex whether with underage girls or adult women or his adopted son's wife, Zaynab or the 72 virgins in islamic paradise or the pearly homosexual boys in qu'ran. The mugu MuhamMad always thought about Sex all day to the extent he thought he had sex with all his wives in a day when he didn't in the hadiths grin)

Why did Allah impregnate Mary (Mariam) to produce Jesus according to Islam?! grin why did he just create Jesus as he did Adam? Jesus had no father according to Islam and never died but is currently with Allah while Adam created from mere clay is dead. Why is a mere man living for over 2000 years now if not God? Is it possible for a mere man to live for thousand of years if not God?!!

Muslims are mad possessed people without sense. If not they won't follow Pedophile Prophet Muhammad.

Allah’s spirit impregnated the Virgin Mary. Mohammed again
confuses Mary (Miriam), the daughter of Amran who was the sister of
Moses and Aaron, with Mary, the mother of Jesus. Notice the name of
Mary’s father is Heli, not Amran. See Luke 3:23.
12 And Mary, the daughter of Amran, who guarded her sexual parts, so we
breathed into it [5] from our spirit, and she believed in the words of her lord
and his books, and she was among the obedient.


‘Isā (the Jesus of Mohammed) was a virgin-born messenger (created by
Allah), but not Allah’s son. This story is repeated in verses 5:110-120
and 19:16-40. Concerning ‘Isā’s creation of the birds, Mohammed was
influenced by Chapter 2 in the Greek book, The Gospel of Thomas, and
also by Chapter 36 in an Arabic book, The Gospel of a Childhood.
45 When the angels said, "O Mary, surely Allah gives you the good news
with a word from him. His name is the Christ, ‘Isā, son of Mary, exalted in
this world and in the hereafter, and of the nearer brought to Allah.


grin
When you say I worship a mere man. Infact according to Islam which you don't know. I am actually worshipping the Word and Spirit of Allah=Jesus Christ (qu'ran 4:171)

Confused Muslims.
I smell ignorance, frustration, agony and severe pain from this write up.
You don't have to be so rude to spew your "fake knowledge" about Islam.
Also i thought Christians always claim to be tolerant, it seems it's just a mere claim, for If you can't be respectful towards other religions revered personalities them how do we live peacefully together
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by 2dominate: 3:08pm On Jul 18, 2021
Righteousness2:
JESUS Christ, the Most Important being Ever to Come on this Earth.

JESUS Christ, the One who came on this Earth and Paid the Price for the Sins of all Humanity by Dying on the Cross and Resurrecting after 3 days.

JESUS Christ , the Only Way for all of Humanity to be Saved.

JESUS Christ, the Only one who Decides the Fate of All Humanity in Eternity irrespective of whether you say you Believe Him or not.

JESUS Christ, the One who is Coming back anymoment from now to Snatch all that Believe in Him, Living Right and Ready.

Come to HIM today and be Saved! There is no More time..
Jesus did not die on any cross for anyone sins
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by Divoc19(f): 3:14pm On Jul 18, 2021
Nice observation.

Prepare for your end.

onomeabuja:

This world no go end now , na only human bieng de END every single day......so which way we de now
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by wirinet(m): 3:15pm On Jul 18, 2021
Jeromejnr:


You are just shooting yourself in the foot.

Joan of Arc was part of French history, how, because they told you?
Who else do you expect to tell me of his or he history? Should I be the one telling French history of their war defeats and victories?


Was Yeshua not part of Jewish history ? Though many them don't see him as the Messiah. Didn't their Rabbi's write about him?
No. The Jews have never regarded Jesus as part of Jewish history. Which Jewish Rabbi wrote about jesus?


Romans also wrote about Jesus the miracle worker who had followers.
No Roman wrote about Jesus. Josephus a Jewish historical was said to have written about Jesus as regards what a certaun sect of Jews believed, but he never wrote directly about the life Jesus.



As for Copernicus, who told you he was the one who wrote the book?
Who should we then attribute the book with corpanicus written boldly as the author. Besides also wrote various letters to the academic community detailing his claims.

So all the various writings from different disciples that wrote about Jesus over different years, they are not worthy to be considered?
Which different disciples that wrote about Jesus? Non of the actual disciples wrote about jesus? Most of them are said to be illiterate. The person that wrote Luke and Acts of the apostles (a certain Theophilus) never claimed to have met Jesus. He said he relied on what people are saying (hearsay).

Good thing you said you know nothing of history. Because you don't.
Even though I don't know much about history, I know far more than you could ever know.

We would rather listen to the expert historians. Not one Mowe guy that is forming intellectual.

All these Nairaland kids sef.

Why not link us to the so called expert historians?

Believe me, I am way more older and educated than you.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by rhektor(m): 3:24pm On Jul 18, 2021
AntiChristian:
Holiest site indeed!

If you can provide just one archeological findings about Meca and Medina that support Islam and Mohammed, I will become an Abdul. A deal?
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by sagenaija: 3:24pm On Jul 18, 2021
muhdfaruq:
let me answer your question.The Ka'aba in mecca mosque was built by prophet Abraham,and it's still in existence.
Have seen the picture of the kaba in early 1900s and the one you see today?
Do you know how those preceding the 1900s were like?
Go and check and come back to tell us.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by rhektor(m): 3:26pm On Jul 18, 2021
2dominate:

I smell ignorance, frustration, agony and severe pain from this write up.
You don't have to be so rude to spew your "fake knowledge" about Islam.
Also i thought Christians always claim to be tolerant, it seems it's just a mere claim, for If you can't be respectful towards other religions revered personalities them how do we live peacefully together

You don't have to be mad at the comment, if you don't agree with the writer just provide a counter opinion, that is how it is done by sane people. Stop trying to be condescending
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by sagenaija: 3:28pm On Jul 18, 2021
Nascimento:


If u are still thinking that Jerusalem is still the seat of pure worship or the holiest site of worship, then you are wrong. Granted, the Israelites were chosen, but they rejected the messiah. With that rejection, God rejected them as his chosen people. God turned to the gentiles (us), giving us the privilege of having a relationship with him through his son Jesus christ. The Bible even said that in Every LAND, the man that fears Him, is acceptable to him. So everywhere we are is holy to God. Not Jerusalem, but everywhere we are. As long as we conduct ourselves in harmony to God's righteous standards and serve him in spirit and truth.

Why bring up what you assume I'm 'thinking'?

What has any of the things you wrote here got to do with what I wrote up there?

Surely we have so many warped brains in Naija. Simple issues are so hard for them to grasp.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by rhektor(m): 3:31pm On Jul 18, 2021
wirinet:

Who else do you expect to tell me of his or he history? Should I be the one telling French history of their war defeats and victories?


No. The Jews have never regarded Jesus as part of Jewish history. Which Jewish Rabbi wrote about jesus?


No Roman wrote about Jesus. Josephus a Jewish historical was said to have written about Jesus as regards what a certaun sect of Jews believed, but he never wrote directly about the life Jesus.


Who should we then attribute the book with corpanicus written boldly as the author. Besides also wrote various letters to the academic community detailing his claims.

Which different disciples that wrote about Jesus? Non of the actual disciples wrote about jesus? Most of them are said to be illiterate. The person that wrote Luke and Acts of the apostles (a certain Theophilus) never claimed to have met Jesus. He said he relied on what people are saying (hearsay).

Even though I don't know much about history, I know far more than you could ever know.


Why not link us to the so called expert historians?

Believe me, I am way more older and educated than you.


grin grin grin
You just have to lie about Theophilus lmao.


In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach NIT

In my first book I told you, Theophilus, about everything Jesus began to do and teach NLT
In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach ESV
Acts 1:1

Written for/to Theophilus does not mean written by Theophilus
Abdool please use your head sir
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by sagenaija: 3:31pm On Jul 18, 2021
STRI1:


Who owns the Palestine, wherein we have the whole of jerusalem before your british brought the Jews to occupy the Palestine ?? In 1948. Go and read about the zionist movement, Bailfo declaration, six day war, and occupation of Palestine by isreal. Watch several and being out the truth.

I asked a simple question and you think this is the right response? Clap for yourself.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by rhektor(m): 3:35pm On Jul 18, 2021
sagenaija:
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I asked a simple question and you think this is the right response? Clap for yourself.

Abdools don't like to respond to questions, they only regurgitate what they've crammed
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by Jeromejnr(m): 3:37pm On Jul 18, 2021
wirinet:

Who else do you expect to tell me of his or he history? Should I be the one telling French history of their war defeats and victories?


No. The Jews have never regarded Jesus as part of Jewish history. Which Jewish Rabbi wrote about jesus?


No Roman wrote about Jesus. Josephus a Jewish historical was said to have written about Jesus as regards what a certaun sect of Jews believed, but he never wrote directly about the life Jesus.


Who should we then attribute the book with corpanicus written boldly as the author. Besides also wrote various letters to the academic community detailing his claims.

Which different disciples that wrote about Jesus? Non of the actual disciples wrote about jesus? Most of them are said to be illiterate. The person that wrote Luke and Acts of the apostles (a certain Theophilus) never claimed to have met Jesus. He said he relied on what people are saying (hearsay).

Even though I don't know much about history, I know far more than you could ever know.


Why not link us to the so called expert historians?

Believe me, I am way more older and educated than you.

Mr way more educated and older than me.

I don't have time to type much.

But from all you wrote up there. ..its obvious you are just one of those unenlightened folks that claim knowledgeble online but in reality they are ....(you complete that). All these people that will just sit down in their house and be typing like they have knowledge about a certain topic.

I will just refer you to the Roman "Tacitus" who wrote on Christ. And Jews like "Tosefta" who wrote on Jesus. or the Talmud that was written by Jews.

See how you are so confident in your ignorant replies.

Instead of spending your time on Twitter reading savage replies and gossiping about who is spending money, why don't you visit educational sites like "bc.edu" to keep up with intellectuals? That's my advice for you.

I would rather spend more time talking with more educated folks.

Ciao.

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Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by sagenaija: 3:38pm On Jul 18, 2021
AntiChristian:


Yes, you are free to quote archeology when it fits your narrative. But when it doesn't you keep mute.

What archeology do we need to believe in the Qu'ran? It has been memorized from the time of the last Prophet of Allah. What preservation surpasses this?

But how many people has memorized the Bible in it's original language?

And has archeology studies stopped? It is continuous!

Thank you for showing us that you have no records to show.
Can I ask another question: Which other 7th century empire gives a historical backing to Mohamed and Islam apart from the Arabs?
Clue: Nations interacted and traded with each other throughout history. Islam couldn't have existed only in 'memorization'; could it?
PS:
I asked for 7th century, not a reference in later years about the 7th century.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by sagenaija: 3:44pm On Jul 18, 2021
Patrioticman007:

Pls Don't bring you confusion here,
To you be your religion of son worship, To us be our religion of Allah worship. The day of reckoning will surely come, so need of insulting or rubbishing others religion.
We say stay in peace, if you can.

I only asked a simple question in reaction to what your brother abdul posted. So, where is the confusion or who is bringing up confusion?
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by BnQoyyim(m): 3:46pm On Jul 18, 2021
Qudsi:



How can a man as you claimed Jesus to be be said by Allah (Because Muslims agree that qu'ran is all the Word of Allah as recited by the mad possessed confusionist mentally unstable illiterate Pedophile Prophet MuhamMad).

how so can a "mere man/messenger" Jesus according to the Ignorant 99% Headslamming taqiyyist Muslims who don't know their qu'ran and hadiths still be said of in qu'ran 4:171. In this qur'an 4:171 where MuhamMad the mad possessed confusionist mentally unstable illiterate was trying to say that Jesus is not the Son of God. Satan inside the mugu Muhammad still contradicted himself by saying in the same Qu'ran 4:171 that Jesus is the Messenger, also the WORD OF ALLAH and the SPIRIT OF ALLAH. grin

Don't see that MuhamMad is a mentally unstable confusionist. How can a mere messenger he tried to call Jesus in Qu'ran 4:171 trying to deny that Jesus is the Son of God but still went ahead in same qu'ran 4:171 to say that Jesus is the very WORD of Allah and also the SPIRIT OF ALLAH. grin

MuhamMad is a mad possessed confusionist. How can a "mere man/messenger" Jesus be the very word and spirit of Allah. Does that make any sense?!!

By Jesus having these two Highest quality of Allah then MuhamMad, the mad mugu prophet has already declared JESUS AS GOD in the same Qu'ran 4:171 that HE was trying to deny JESUS AS SON OF GOD.

Why couldn't any of the prophets like Adam (only a prophet in Islam we don't know Adam's prophecy grin), Musa, Sulaimon, Dawud, etcetera be the Word and Spirit of Allah or even the Pedophile MuhamMad.

Why only Jesus Christ?!!

‘Isā (the Jesus of Mohammed) was only a messenger. It is far from
Allah’s glory to have a son. The Trinity is false. Notice that the Trinity
is clearly taught in this same verse. 1. ‘Isā is the messenger, the word of
Allah. 2. Allah is the father. 3. The spirit of Allah is the holy spirit.
Compare this to the Bible in John 1:1-3, 14.
171 O People of the Book, do not exaggerate in your religion and do not
speak against Allah, except the truth. Surely the Christ ‘Isā, son of Mary, is
only a messenger of Allah and his word, which he cast to Mary, and a spirit
from him
. So believe in Allah and his messengers, and do not say, "Three."
[54] Cease; it is better for you. Surely Allah is only one god. Praise be to
him that there would be to him a son. To him what is in the heavens and
what is on the earth, and Allah is a sufficient guardian.


Also, every sensible person knows that the Son of a human is a Human. The Child of a dog is a dog. That of a Goat becomes a Goat. Same quality like the Father. Having known that why of all the mere messengers. Why was only Jesus the one that Allah had to directed impregnate Mary(Mariam) in other to produce Jesus by blowing into Vagina ( cheesy you know MuhamMad was a bastard. All he thought about Sex, Sex and Sex whether with underage girls or adult women or his adopted son's wife, Zaynab or the 72 virgins in islamic paradise or the pearly homosexual boys in qu'ran. The mugu MuhamMad always thought about Sex all day to the extent he thought he had sex with all his wives in a day when he didn't in the hadiths grin)

Why did Allah impregnate Mary (Mariam) to produce Jesus according to Islam?! grin why did he just create Jesus as he did Adam? Jesus had no father according to Islam and never died but is currently with Allah while Adam created from mere clay is dead. Why is a mere man living for over 2000 years now if not God? Is it possible for a mere man to live for thousand of years if not God?!!

Muslims are mad possessed people without sense. If not they won't follow Pedophile Prophet Muhammad.

Allah’s spirit impregnated the Virgin Mary. Mohammed again
confuses Mary (Miriam), the daughter of Amran who was the sister of
Moses and Aaron, with Mary, the mother of Jesus. Notice the name of
Mary’s father is Heli, not Amran. See Luke 3:23.
12 And Mary, the daughter of Amran, who guarded her sexual parts, so we
breathed into it [5] from our spirit, and she believed in the words of her lord
and his books, and she was among the obedient.


‘Isā (the Jesus of Mohammed) was a virgin-born messenger (created by
Allah), but not Allah’s son. This story is repeated in verses 5:110-120
and 19:16-40. Concerning ‘Isā’s creation of the birds, Mohammed was
influenced by Chapter 2 in the Greek book, The Gospel of Thomas, and
also by Chapter 36 in an Arabic book, The Gospel of a Childhood.
45 When the angels said, "O Mary, surely Allah gives you the good news
with a word from him. His name is the Christ, ‘Isā, son of Mary, exalted in
this world and in the hereafter, and of the nearer brought to Allah.


grin
When you say I worship a mere man. Infact according to Islam which you don't know. I am actually worshipping the Word and Spirit of Allah=Jesus Christ (qu'ran 4:171)

Confused Muslims.

This really shows that you're a kid.
You don't need to be temperamental before you could establish your fact.
Don't hide, show your true colors.
Have you ever seen any sane Muslims abusing Jesus Christ (peace be upon him)? Never!
Just answer my questions, basic!
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by sagenaija: 3:52pm On Jul 18, 2021
mujahid777:

What claims are you talking of?
It's a simple one sentence question and don't you understand something that simple?

Ok, let me help you because I know that cramming affects many of you, preventing you from simple comprehension.

Archeology is discovering and confirming things about cities that existed from thousands of years ago, even for those that were buried over time. If Islam's claim that Mecca has existed for as long as is in its books is true then it should be possible for several artifacts to have been unearthed in that city given its supposed history. If that is so, can we please have some evidence?
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by 2dominate: 4:02pm On Jul 18, 2021
rhektor:


You don't have to be mad at the comment, if you don't agree with the writer just provide a counter opinion, that is how it is done by sane people. Stop trying to be condescending
That was if i had any interest in countering his point's, and by the way no sane person also raises allegations in such contemptuous manner
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by wirinet(m): 4:14pm On Jul 18, 2021
rhektor:



grin grin grin
You just have to lie about Theophilus lmao.


In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach NIT

In my first book I told you, Theophilus, about everything Jesus began to do and teach NLT
In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach ESV
Acts 1:1

Written for/to Theophilus does not mean written by Theophilus
Abdool please use your head sir


Apologies for my mistake.
Yes luke and Acts were written for Theophilus by an unknown author who was certainly never claimed to be an eye witness, but wrote from what others told him.

Here is the first book Luke 1:1

Luke 1
1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us,
2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.
3 Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,
4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

5 In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah,

From verse 5 the story begins ......
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by wirinet(m): 4:35pm On Jul 18, 2021
Jeromejnr:


Mr way more educated and older than me.

I don't have time to type much.

But from all you wrote up there. ..its obvious you are just one of those unenlightened folks that claim knowledgeble online but in reality they are ....(you complete that). All these people that will just sit down in their house and be typing like they have knowledge about a certain topic.

I will just refer you to the Roman "Tacitus" who wrote on Christ. And Jews like "Tosefta" who wrote on Jesus. or the Talmud that was written by Jews.

See how you are so confident in your ignorant replies.

Instead of spending your time on Twitter reading savage replies and gossiping about who is spending money, why don't you visit educational sites like "bc.edu" to keep up with intellectuals? That's my advice for you.

I would rather spend more time talking with more educated folks.

Ciao.
That's why I question your level of education. You read the first lines of an article and immediately fly into concludion without eveb bothering to read the context and conclusion of the whole article.

Tacitus was writing about Christians during the burning of Rome in AD 64 and not particularly about Christ. Rome was burning in AD 64 and Emperor Nero blamed the Christians and so started expecting Christians. Tacitus only made reference to Christ in relation to the beliefs of Christians which he found as an abomination. He definitely had never been to Palestine nor did he claim to know christ who was said to have died 30 years earlier even existed.

This is what he wrote concerning Christ.

But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations . , called Christians by the populace . Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition. thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by blacknoir: 4:37pm On Jul 18, 2021
sagenaija:

Have you asked yourselves why NO ARCHEOLOGICAL SUPPORT EXISTS TODAY IN MECCA TO SUPPORT ISLAM'S CLAIM IN ITS BOOKS ABOUT THAT CITY? I challenge you to show us if any exist.
True talk infact they don't want foreign archeologist to come because it will disapprove the Muslim faith even further.mount Sinai is there also,check this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7sJJIk-FY

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Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by oguns222: 4:38pm On Jul 18, 2021
AntiChristian:


How is it the holiest site? I never said it wasn't "holy" as the OP state did i?

Now you suffer from what you accused me of!

Add blind to your own dumb!

Shut up, you Hypocrite.

Between you and I know, you know you will never question anything supported by Islam. Even if it sounds stupid, you will still support and defend it because Islam says so.

You are opposing this one because you never knew Islam too supports the Holy status of the place.

Even your monicker itself indicates complete ignorance about the history of the Islam you claim that you practice.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by TWoods(m): 4:48pm On Jul 18, 2021
Patrioticman007:



Pls Don't bring you confusion here,
To you be your religion of son worship, To us be our religion of Allah worship. The day of reckoning will surely come, so need of insulting or rubbishing others religion.
We say stay in peace, if you can.

I saw nothing insulting in his post, simply a question why there is no archeological evidence exists that shows any Islamic ties to Jerusalem. My best bet is that you understand his question, you realize how embarrassing it is so you reacted as best you could, with passive aggression.
Re: 'Magnificent' Ruins From Time Of Jesus Found In Earth's Holiest Site, Jerusalem by obonujoker(m): 4:52pm On Jul 18, 2021
olaniyilukman:
if truly JESUS died for our sins,then no human should be penalized for committing a sin here in this and after..

The individual must accept and receive Jesus as his Lord and personal savior first...

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