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The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 9:38pm On Oct 01, 2020
God created human beings and gave us one very important gift,that is the ability and capacity to make choices..in other to guide us to make good and better choices,so that we can have a more fulfilling and purposeful life God gave humanity his laws..But only the jews and the igbos are the only ones to accept it , so they will forever remain God's chosen people. The jewish torah and the igbos Odinani are Gods laws,statues and customs that binds Gods people..

Torah and odinani of course, are meant to illuminate our world and our lives. It is also supposed to move us in a certain direction. The light of Torah/odinani directs us to that destination. And if you learn Them properly, it has the ability to actually project you and move you toward its goals of getting closer to our creator and of refining and purifying our personalities.
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 10:03pm On Oct 01, 2020
God fashioned this body as an abode for his spirit, while the spirit is swelling within this body,we have to obey the laws of our creation in other to make the experience worthwhile...

It is about the laws and the land.....
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by hardcore007: 6:03am On Oct 02, 2020
Tell us more about it
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 10:00am On Oct 02, 2020
hardcore007:
Tell us more about it

Which?.. God's laws?

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Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by CAPSLOCKED: 10:21am On Oct 02, 2020
sonmvayina:
God created human beings and gave us one very important gift,that is the ability and capacity to make choices..in other to guide us to make good and better choices,so that we can have a more fulfilling and purposeful life God gave humanity his laws..But only the jews and the igbos are the only ones to accept it , so they will forever remain God's chosen people. The jewish torah and the igbos Odinani are Gods laws,statues and customs that binds Gods people.

YOU WILL KILL US ONE DAY WITH EXCESSIVE CRUISE.

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Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 12:18pm On Oct 02, 2020
I want to teach about the Torah, since most people have a bible back ground..
Starting tomorrow..

Stay tuned.

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Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by 1Sharon(f): 7:54pm On Oct 08, 2020
Enough with the Jewish obsession.

Your concept of God comes from the middle east.

Your thoughts are not your own.
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by 1Sharon(f): 7:56pm On Oct 08, 2020
sonmvayina:
I want to teach about the Torah, since most people have a bible back ground..
Starting tomorrow..

Stay tuned.

Why not teach the Talmud?

Most jews are talmudic, only a minority are into the Torah.
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkiee: 8:04pm On Oct 08, 2020
1Sharon:
Enough with the Jewish obsession.
Your concept of God comes from the middle east.
Your thoughts are not your own.
Na wa oo!!! This one big pass ordinary obsession ... I sense it comes with a hint of inferiority complex to boot.

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Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 5:23pm On Oct 09, 2020
1Sharon:


Why not teach the Talmud?

Most jews are talmudic, only a minority are into the Torah.

When the messiah comes,there will be full observance of the Torah..

One of the things the real messiah will accomplish..
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 5:25pm On Oct 09, 2020
1Sharon:
Enough with the Jewish obsession.

Your concept of God comes from the middle east.

Your thoughts are not your own.

The laws of God is universal and same through out the world,since most people heee have that foundation ...hence the need to use it..
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 5:30pm On Oct 09, 2020
Genesis chapter 1&2 gives a summary of the creation of the universe, for a detailed account you have to read the Enuma Elish..it tells of how Marduk rose to prominence and how he defeated Tia mat and used her body to create the universe and gave each god their domain and station..Tiamat is the Sumerian Satan which is just a personification of chaos, so it is just a telling of how Marduk brought order from chaos ..
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by 1Sharon(f): 7:25pm On Oct 09, 2020
sonmvayina:


The laws of God is universal and same through out the world,since most people heee have that foundation ...hence the need to use it..

How come that law wasn't universal until europeans showed up on african shores?
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 9:33pm On Oct 09, 2020
1Sharon:


How come that law wasn't universal until europeans showed up on african shores?

African follow God's laws...it was passed from generation to generation by word of mouth...
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by 1Sharon(f): 10:43pm On Oct 09, 2020
sonmvayina:


African follow God's laws...it was passed from generation to generation by word of mouth...

When they were polytheists?
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 7:58am On Oct 10, 2020
1Sharon:


When they were polytheists?

Were they?..that is new to me...what I know is that most people in the world nit just africans,go through the orishas to get to the creator. But the Igbo's and the Jews never had any need for them.they went to the creator directly.."Do not have any other god before me"..

We do recognize their existence..
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 5:52pm On Oct 10, 2020
Genesis 2-3 deals with the creation of man and woman..the passages speaks about the spirit of God moving on the earth, and God said let us create man in our own image after our likeness. So God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils and man became a living being..
Man is made up of dust of the earth and spirit or breathe of God..so by simple inference,it is clear that God was talking to the earth ,as she provided the dust for the body and God provided the spirit or breadth...Adam simply means man .

The woman was created by taking a rib from the man and Encasing it in flesh.this simply means we should desire a woman based on what she has inside Her intellect,not her breast or legs or hips .Eve simply means woman.
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 1:33pm On Dec 26, 2020
These too

Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by sonmvayina(m): 6:30pm On Jul 15, 2021
@kobojunkie...am here..it's up.
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkie: 7:04pm On Jul 15, 2021
sonmvayina:
@kobojunkie...am here..it's up.
Alright, let's jump to it then. The Law begins in the book of Exodus... so how do we go about verifying all 613 statues of the Old Covenant were also given by God to the Ibos? undecided
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkie: 7:10pm On Jul 15, 2021
sonmvayina:
Genesis 2-3 deals with the creation of man and woman..the passages speaks about the spirit of God moving on the earth, and God said let us create man in our own image after our likeness. So God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils and man became a living being..
Man is made up of dust of the earth and spirit or breathe of God..so by simple inference,it is clear that God was talking to the earth ,as she provided the dust for the body and God provided the spirit or breadth...Adam simply means man .

The woman was created by taking a rib from the man and Encasing it in flesh.this simply means we should desire a woman based on what she has inside Her intellect,not her breast or legs or hips .Eve simply means woman.
Can we dispense of the special interpretation bullsheet and process what is written as it is written. According to the Bible creation story, The woman, Eve, was created for The man, Adam, the exact companion he required as the first man to be created, according to the story - Genesis 2 vs 18 - 25. undecided

When we compare the Bible creation story with the Ibo Omenani, the story of "Chi" and "Eke" - the masquiline and the divisive feminine force - come to mind when considering what to compare to Adam and Eve, don't you agree? undecided
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkie: 7:22pm On Jul 15, 2021
sonmvayina:
Genesis chapter 1&2 gives a summary of the creation of the universe, for a detailed account you have to read the Enuma Elish..it tells of how Marduk rose to prominence and how he defeated Tia mat and used her body to create the universe and gave each god their domain and station..Tiamat is the Sumerian Satan which is just a personification of chaos, so it is just a telling of how Marduk brought order from chaos ..
So, how does this story you tell here, line up with the Ibo story of creation?

An interesting aspect of the Ibo Chukwu is the "Chi" n "Eke" aspect to Chukwu where Chi is considered the "centrix" and "Eke", the creative mother, a divisive feminine force. According to the story, Eke is an entity that came out of the Hands of Chukwu and is considered separate from Chukwu but at the same time one with Chuckwu. undecided

Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkie: 7:28pm On Jul 15, 2021
sonmvayina:
These too
Whose ancestor? undecided

The verses you mentioned indicate that oil is what is used in making the indicated altars Holy, so why is pouring alcohol on the ground to be compared to the indicated rituals in the bible? undecided
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkie: 8:08pm On Jul 15, 2021
According to the Omenani, the worship of idols, Alusis, feature prominently in the belief. Not only are the 4 days - Eke, Orie, Afo and nkwo - worshipped as deities, there are also spirits that are venerated as supernatural forces that regulate human life. The worship of Chukwu centers around the worship of idols or sub deities , all of them sanctioned by Chineke and ultimately Chukwu as they are channels through which the people can reach Chukwu. undecided

So the ibos believe there supreme being gave them idols to worship, this is contradiction to every claim to have attempted to make so far of God handing them the very same Law as He did the Hebrews. And on top of this, their creaton story does not even reflect that which is recorded in Genesis. undecided

Is there any further need to attempt any more comparisons between the Ibo diety and the Hebrew God after this? undecided

Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkiee: 4:01pm On Jul 19, 2021
22jumpstreet, you don abandon this one? undecided
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by 22jumpstreet: 4:15pm On Jul 19, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
22jumpstreet, you don abandon this one? undecided

Not at all. I have been on the road as I just lost my dad. So as customs demands I had to travel to tell my relations in the village...
I will be available during the Salah holiday..
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkiee: 4:27pm On Jul 19, 2021
22jumpstreet:


Not at all. I have been on the road as I just lost my dad. So as customs demands I had to travel to tell my relations in the village...
I will be available during the Salah holiday..
Ok
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by bobestman(m): 11:23pm On Jul 19, 2021
Igbos are not Jewish. They are the Origin of the black race. The first people. They are not Jews cos the letter J is not up to 300yrs old. So names they gave you like Jews, Judah, Jesus are all fabrications. The Jews of Isrealis are the impostors who stole the stories of the Igbos with the help of the League of nations when the Igbos fell into deep Amnesia. The true name is "Isi Ora Ele" Ancient or first people of the Sovereign Father not Isreal. Igbo in Ancient times include all Southerners and some North. They are all one people

Omenana is the true ways of the Igbos which is rooted in the Torah. It is based on holy living and Righteousness. But like today's Christianity, Islam...All has fell. All religion are Apostate. They are all corrupt today and needs cleansing.

The true Omeziala(Messiah) or IheChiOwa( light of God to the world) who is the Restorer of the Kingdom (Acts 1:6). Comes first into his Temple not Church or Mosque, He will cleanse it, purify the Righteous ones among his people (Malachi 3:1-4) and then commission them to preach the true gospel of the Kingdom (Matthew 24:14;Rev 14:6;18:1,2) for Salvation is of/comes from the true set apart or sanctified by the true Messiah... Jews/Hebrews (John 4:22)

All has fell a long time ago. All you all have today in Judaism, Christianity, Islam are Corruptions. They all copied from the true way (Ancient Omenana). This true way was corrupted by an evil woman who put them in 3 measures of meal (produced the 3 major religion today from that true ancient Way till she corrupted it all (Matthew 13:33). The true way to the kingdom was corrupted into 3 ways and all fell and became corrupt. All religion needs to hear the truth from the ancient people (Isaiah 44:7kjv)
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkie: 11:37pm On Jul 19, 2021
bobestman:

[b]Omenana is the true ways of the Igbos which is rooted in the Torah. It is based on holy living and [/b]Righteousness. But like today's Christianity, Islam...All has fell. All religion are Apostate. They are all corrupt today and needs cleansing.
What is the source of that conclusion of yours? Where do you find this link you claim between the omenani and the Torah? undecided
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by bobestman(m): 12:12am On Jul 20, 2021
Kobojunkie:
What is the source of that conclusion of yours? Where do you find this link you claim between the omenani and the Torah? undecided
You and all your religions are in a deep sleep. Whenever you wake up is your morning. The Jesuits control all your religion. Do you know who the ancient people are? What they will tell you, google and all sources today can never tell you cos they are part of the system that kept you all in deep Amnesia.
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by Kobojunkie: 12:13am On Jul 20, 2021
bobestman:

You and all your religions are in a deep sleep. Whenever you wake up is your morning. The Jesuits control all your religion. Do you know who the ancient people are? What they will tell you, google and all sources today can never tell you cos they are part of the system that kept you all in deep Amnesia.
Again.. What is the source of that conclusion of yours? undecided
Where do you find this link you claim between the omenani and the Torah? undecided
Re: The Jewish Torah And The Igbo Odinani. by bobestman(m): 12:20am On Jul 20, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Again.. What is the source of that conclusion of yours? undecided
Where do you find this link you claim between the omenani and the Torah? undecided
Go and wake up from your deep sleep then will you understand, innerstand and overstand.

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