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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:52pm On Jul 22, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:02pm On Jul 22, 2021
somehow:


Sir, if you observe me well since we started business, you'd see that I always talk about owing up to responsibility.

I also try not to be found wanting, meaning I take care of what I should take care of without pushing my responsibilities to others.

When I know I won't be able to carry out the responsibility, I delegate and pay the delegate what is worth his or her time.

Our lack of taking responsibility is killing us as Nigerians.

No one wants to take responsibility, we love to blame others for things we should be in charge of.

Remember the cement issue? I told you I don't know the cement guy and its you that I know and I made sure you played your part even though it took time. (I paid to you and negotiated everything with you).

Not to boast, the materials I asked of you was to do a road leading to my office just 1 year into moving there. I met people on that street with big big cars, they all kept waiting for useless LG to come fix the covet leading into their homes and offices.

They didn't protest, they didn't go there daily to disturb the LG chairman, they only wrote letters (2) in 5 years to the LG.

The LG is just 2 minutes drive from the street and 5 mins walk.

Veyy sick mindset we have in this part of the world.

BTW, I own no property in the said area!

grin grin

The part of the whole ordeal that weaken me was your epic reply when you asked me the guys location and I told you he said he’s trying to avoid the LASTMA guys.

You said “Avoiding LASTMA is not a location.

I just faint grin grin

_______

We learn everyday.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Heymus(m): 2:09pm On Jul 22, 2021
nannymcphee:
Against the counsel of N3xt & the house I didnt do pillars(sad face)

My foundation concrete was 3" thick

Foundation depth 1ft 6"(hard soil)

Mortar mixture used 1bag of cement, 12heapan of sharp sand ( please is this good enough?)it will be okay if you can do the over site concrete ( German floor) it will be able to protect your foundation from the materials you imported to site during dpc stage e.g filling sand.
Your concrete mixture and mortar mixture are ok. Congratulations on your project

For the concrete. 1bag of cement, 8 headpan of sharp sand and 7headpan of granite( is this Ok too?)

4 coaches has been achieved and the surrounding roads are lower than the estate. Next stage is filling and German Floor

I have insisted on the german floor, I am being pressed to continue building and do that later

The area is not water logged, please what advantage does the German floor have and why should I do it?

EgunMogaji2
n3xt
Adegunle4
yosmen
Josnac
Heymus
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 2:10pm On Jul 22, 2021
n3xt:


grin grin

The part of the whole ordeal that weaken me was your epic reply when you asked me the guys location and I told you he said he’s trying to avoid the LASTMA guys.

You said “Avoiding LASTMA is not a location.

I just faint grin grin

_______

We learn everyday.




When we are ready to change as a people, then and then..... .
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 2:12pm On Jul 22, 2021
KolaShangOne:


Herbalist no dey work again sef..

You will continue spending money on herbalist and nothing will happen..

That's just it
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:17pm On Jul 22, 2021
somehow:


When we are ready to change as a person, then and then..... .

In Project Management, we learnt that delegation is not dumping or abdicating personal responsibility.

Delegating like giving recommendation for a job works, provided the one delegating/recommending works too.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 2:35pm On Jul 22, 2021
I also run away from people always bringing religion into business.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 2:45pm On Jul 22, 2021
n3xt:


I’m following everything.

I asked if you’re satisfied and he said “To a large extent “Yes” but he had to rework the external pipe around external staircase area blah blah...”

When I give recommendation/referral, I don’t go to sleep without confirming that things are moving as expected. It’s as good as I am the one handling the job.

I always do my best to help these guys become better at what they do.
Thank you very much N3xt.
Proverbs 18:16 “A man's gift maketh room for him, and bringeth him before great men.” The fact that you are aware of the bolded above shows you are a good manager of people and process. Thank you very much and may God reward your labor of love with abundance coins IJN. Amen


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 2:49pm On Jul 22, 2021
n3xt:


grin grin

The part of the whole ordeal that weaken me was your epic reply when you asked me the guys location and I told you he said he’s trying to avoid the LASTMA guys.

You said “Avoiding LASTMA is not a location.

I just faint grin grin

_______

We learn everyday.




This made me laugh. I hope people get it

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 3:25pm On Jul 22, 2021
somehow:


Black label

The word black was coined for a reason to address a particular race.

I hope you know you are not black?

Do a thorough research on the history of that label to understand me proper.

I also don't call Causasians, Hispanians, Asians "Oyinbo" or "Whites".

Again, do a research to understand how white label came about.

Yoruba adage says "Oruko longbo eniyan".

People who answer that black label behave in certain ways all over the world, just do your research sir.

Heard of Ying Yang theory before?
Read about the Ying Yang theory in my philosophy 101 class. Maybe because the professor was Chinese.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 3:45pm On Jul 22, 2021
Hi Dijita , pls check ur mail
Dijita:


This made me laugh. I hope people get it
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DancingSkeleton(m): 3:56pm On Jul 22, 2021
[color=#990000][/color] What’s the current price list for the various pop cements? Including ABS
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DancingSkeleton(m): 3:56pm On Jul 22, 2021
[color=#990000][/color] What’s the current price list for the various pop cements? Including ABS
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 3:56pm On Jul 22, 2021
Dominionng:


Surprisingly, diasporas are the most dubious.

I take exception to that. If you are cheated or dupe by a person. It is not because he or she is a diaspora. It is because the person is a dubious Nigerian. He will do the same if he is home. Yes we can be sensitive because we are dealing with you from a distance and suspect you are trying to play games.
Many of us have engaged a lot of people on this forum and paid them with bonus when the job is well done. Some of us have run into issues with contractors and work it out and sometimes accept less satisfactory job and still paid the agreed price.

Personally, I don't engaged people to do a job for me until I have the whole amount ready and available in Nigeria. However, I am not going to pay you 100% until you finished the job.
Rotech has done many jobs for me. the latest is upward of #2million. He is established and respected in this forum. I don't pay him 100% until the job is complete.
I employ the government contract model in my project. I appropriate fund for a project. give you advance, transfer your balance to an encumbrance account because it is no longer my money and pay you your balance after the job is completed to my satisfaction.

If the issue with Twinskenny borehole had been mine, I would have asked him how much to fix the borehole and give him may be 20 or 25k out of his 50k. However, I will never pay you 100% before the job is completed. If you bleeped up, who is going to refund my money? At least I can use the balance to get police to harass you until you fix the problem or I decide to move on.
People bleeped up every time. I gave a family that is in Nigeria some project to do and he did some of it and then abandon the last part. I asked my sister to complete it which she did. I told this person not to expect monthly allowance from me until I finish deducting the money that was used to complete the abandon project. The money is about #200k . Assuming this is a contractor , how much will I spend to chase down 200k? If I had withheld #30,000 my loss will just be #170k not #200k. In fact I can even give the 30k as bonus to my sister that completed the project.

We have dishonest people at both end of the pond

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DancingSkeleton(m): 3:57pm On Jul 22, 2021
What’s the current price list for the various pop cements? Including ABS

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:08pm On Jul 22, 2021
Dijita:
Thank you very much N3xt.
Proverbs 18:16 “A man's gift maketh room for him, and bringeth him before great men.” The fact that you are aware of the bolded above shows you are a good manager of people and process. Thank you very much and may God reward your labor of love with abundance coins IJN. Amen

Thank you sir.

As a matter of fact, I had a member of my team remotely managing the guy working on your project. I was receiving up-to-minute update about the project from both guys.

I had to send the submersible pump used on the project when I realized it was taking too long than expected.

I don’t have to wait for you to complain to know that.

______

I really don’t have to do this but doing it to ensure your project is delivered satisfactorily will give more credibility to this platform and many other platforms out there.
The consequence of sitting on the fence and not taking responsibility/ownership is what we are all witnessing right now.
The job is not moving. The client is unhappy. The referrer/recommender is not at ease. The subcontractor is on the run. Price of building materials keeps skyrocketing.

And the pastors keep preaching ‘hope’

_______

I think we can save ourselves from all these dramas by taking ownership on every little things committed into our hand.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:12pm On Jul 22, 2021
Horlardorjah:


What works for A might not work for B, known fact. I'm sticking to what works for me definitely

If people stick to that one policy then the world would spin more effectively cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 4:13pm On Jul 22, 2021
sonnie10:

Read about the Ying Yang theory in my philosophy 101 class. Maybe because the professor was Chinese.

The theory says alot about the color black.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:18pm On Jul 22, 2021
Dijita:


I take exception to that. If you are cheated or dupe by a person. It is not because he or she is a diaspora. It is because the person is a dubious Nigerian. He will do the same if he is home. Yes we can be sensitive because we are dealing with you from a distance and suspect you are trying to play games.
Many of us have engaged a lot of people on this forum and paid them with bonus when the job is well done. Some of us have run into issues with contractors and work it out and sometimes accept less satisfactory job and still paid the agreed price.

Personally, I don't engaged people to do a job for me until I have the whole amount ready and available in Nigeria. However, I am not going to pay you 100% until you finished the job.
Rotech has done many jobs for me. the latest is upward of #2million. He is established and respected in this forum. I don't pay him 100% until the job is complete.
I employ the government contract model in my project. I appropriate fund for a project. give you advance, transfer your balance to an encumbrance account because it is no longer my money and pay you your balance after the job is completed to my satisfaction.

If the issue with Twinskenny borehole had been mine, I would have asked him how much to fix the borehole and give him may be 20 or 25k out of his 50k. However, I will never pay you 100% before the job is completed. If you bleeped up, who is going to refund my money? At least I can use the balance to get police to harass you until you fix the problem or I decide to move on.
People bleeped up every time. I gave a family that is in Nigeria some project to do and he did some of it and then abandon the last part. I asked my sister to complete it which she did. I told this person not to expect monthly allowance from me until I finish deducting the money that was used to complete the abandon project. The money is about #200k . Assuming this is a contractor , how much will I spend to chase down 200k? If I had withheld #30,000 my loss will just be #170k not #200k. In fact I can even give the 30k as bonus to my sister that completed the project.

We have dishonest people at both end of the pond


Spot on.

I’m actually surprised that this was posted by Dominion.

Anyways we move.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:23pm On Jul 22, 2021
somehow:
What an interesting read.

This goes back to us as Nigerians

It's an indictment that as Nigerians, we're terrible people if I am to interpret what has been said so far by different people on this thread.

What now happens to the "not so bad" ones that are in the minority?

What should they do since virtually everyone is a potential criminal?

How then do we grow with the mindset that the next man standing beside you is about ripping you off?

Nigeria is what it is today because of everyone of us!

That’s who I cast my net to honestly.

I’ve always preached to people on here not to accept every job that comes up.

Wetin concern me. Me that’s in retirement cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 4:26pm On Jul 22, 2021
n3xt:


Thank you sir.

As a matter of fact, I had a member of my team remotely managing the guy working on your project. I was receiving up-to-minute update about the project from both guys.

I had to send the submersible pump used on the project when I realized it was taking too long than expected.

I don’t have to wait for you to complain to know that.

______

I really don’t have to do this but doing it to ensure your project is delivered satisfactorily will give more credibility to this platform and many other platforms out there.
The consequence of sitting on the fence and not taking responsibility/ownership is what we are all witnessing right now.
The job is not moving. The client is unhappy. The referrer/recommender is not at ease. The subcontractor is on the run. Price of building materials keeps skyrocketing.

And the pastors keep preaching ‘hope’

_______

I think we can save ourselves from all these dramas by taking ownership on every little things committed into our hand.

Still waiting... ....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:44pm On Jul 22, 2021
somehow:


What now happens to the "not so bad" ones that are in the minority?

What should they do since virtually everyone is a potential criminal?


This type of question coming from someone like you who’s equipped with Mackay 66 strategy that even the CIAs will envy is surprising though. embarassed

You that you’ve learnt how to swim with the sharks without being eaten alive.

I think you should teach the other not-so-bads if only they wouldn’t hesitate a minute in taking your advice.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 5:29pm On Jul 22, 2021
Integrity is rare a currency and an integral trait in business and building relationships. As a contractor, it’s is important that you have personal moral and ethical values that defines you. There is nothing more assuring than when a client is able to say, “this is where Mr XYZ would stand on this matter.”
Certain characters are valued by prospective clients and society in general are always looking out for those in business people . The list include, dignity, adaptability, truthfulness, honestly, flexibility, and intergrity.
Building a successful business involves effective collaboration. People must believe in you to establish a business relationship with you. They judge based on your reputation. Your character is a reflection your daily attitude. It mirrors your cumulative attitude. Be honest in all your dealings. Share the right complete information, and communicate effectively with people.

Disclose information when things are not working as planned. It doesn’t make you look incompetent rather it saves you from impending problems. Matters are better resolved in their incubation stage.

Take for instance the case of these borehole, This matter would’ve been resolved just by renting another piece of equipment at a fraction of the cost involved now.

If you have been working really hard in past without a personal commitment to exercise leadership by intentionally exhibiting examplary qualities, it time for a rethink. That is what has been holding you back from succeeding. You can’t fake it and always win. Ask yourself, how many times have you returned to a particular business and why did you go back there. The experience, they delivered met or exceeded your expectations.

You can be a leader in your field of business, it’s not about title or position. Instead always act in way that would attract people to accord you that respect. If Obi Cubana can do it, you can do more.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:54pm On Jul 22, 2021
sonnie10:
Integrity is rare a currency and an integral trait in business and building relationships. As a contractor, it’s is important that you have personal moral and ethical values that defines you. There is nothing more assuring than when a client is able to say, “this is where Mr XYZ would stand on this matter.”
Certain characters are valued by prospective clients and society in general are always looking out for those in business people . The list include, dignity, adaptability, truthfulness, honestly, flexibility, and intergrity.
Building a successful business involves effective collaboration. People must believe in you to establish a business relationship with you. They judge based on your reputation. Your character is a reflection your daily attitude. It mirrors your cumulative attitude. Be honest in all your dealings. Share the right complete information, and communicate effectively with people.

Disclose information when things are not working as planned. It doesn’t make you look incompetent rather it saves you from impending problems. Matters are better resolved in their incubation stage.

Take for instance the case of these borehole, This matter would’ve been resolved just by renting another piece of equipment at a fraction of the cost involved now.

If you have been working really hard in past without a personal commitment to exercise leadership by intentionally exhibiting examplary qualities, it time for a rethink. That is what has been holding you back from succeeding. You can’t fake it and always win. Ask yourself, how many times have you returned to a particular business and why did you go back there. The experience, they delivered met or exceeded your expectations.

You can be a leader in your field of business, it’s not about title or position. Instead always act in way that would attract people to accord you that respect. If Obi Cubana can do it, you can do more.


Profound! Thanks for sharing.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 6:38pm On Jul 22, 2021
n3xt:


grin grin

The part of the whole ordeal that weaken me was your epic reply when you asked me the guys location and I told you he said he’s trying to avoid the LASTMA guys.

You said “Avoiding LASTMA is not a location.

I just faint grin grin

_______

We learn everyday.




Sure
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 6:47pm On Jul 22, 2021
multikolour:
please can you help me with an estimate for pop board, I want to see if I can use the board instead of pop cement.
Simple design is my intention.

Thank you

We are available for paints supply sir

GET VALUE FOR YOUR MONEY

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:58pm On Jul 22, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 7:39pm On Jul 22, 2021
n3xt:


I’m afraid you’d have to live with it, remove the tiles or paint over it.

He’s obviously a novice in installing stone walls. The signs you’re seeing on the wall are from the chemical he applied while trying to clean up and that’s exactly the problem.

Maybe in 5 - 7 years of continuous wash, you might be able to wash off the acidic stains.
Thank you Chief for the response, we will have to choose painting over it.

We pray the painter won’t end up fucking up! It just seems the artisans in Ogun state are lazy or too nonchalant with work
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 7:39pm On Jul 22, 2021
Valuepaints20:
You can vanish it
Vanish what Sir?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 7:45pm On Jul 22, 2021
Born2conquer:

Vanish what Sir?

Brick Tiles
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:01pm On Jul 22, 2021
Born2conquer:

Thank you Chief for the response, we will have to choose painting over it.

We pray the painter won’t end up fucking up! It just seems the artisans in Ogun state are lazy or too nonchalant with work

Not really. Limited exposure and adaptability is really their issue.

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