Best news so far. I love this. Sir Ole is here to stay

Another opportunity for Andreas to prove himself worthy of being called a United Player.

Trevor012:
My manager. Sir Ole our past, present and future

Nice one

Who e pain make im make use of the closest transformer near am.

chidexxy007:

Nice one

Who e pain make im make use of the closest transformer near am.

Without delay

Best news of the month so far and most important signing this TF window.

Oasis007:



Another opportunity for Andreas to prove himself worthy of being called a United Player.

Andreas is always a shout for ballon d'or during preseason

GloryIsaac:


Not true.

The fact that United just signed a proper right winger after 8 years in the wilderness is enough reason to prove that the emboldened is not true.

He can't play comfortably in the pivot with either of McFred, he can't play in the hole cos Bruno has it locked down, his performance is also not consistent at LMF which is said to be his best position, so pray tell how do we balance the team up with him?

I see some names that have no chance of being in the team when the season starts proper. Why do we keep playing them during preseason?

chidexxy007:

Andreas is always a shout for ballon d'or during preseason

I heard he was the worst player in the last outing against Derby.

handelex:
He can't play comfortably in the pivot with either of McFred, he can't play in the hole cos Bruno has it locked down, his performance is also not consistent at LMF which is said to be his best position, so pray tell how do we balance the team up with him?

Get someone to replace McFred dfkm

Meanwhile....

Manchester United do not agree to match Real Madrid’s €60m price tag for Varane, at the moment. @jfelixdiaz

GloryIsaac:


Get someone to replace McFred dfkm

And switch to 4-3-3?

OGS new Contract??

handelex:
I heard he was the worst player in the last outing against Derby.

That's not true..

Nothing spectacular but surely wasn't a poor outing.

handelex:
And switch to 4-3-3?

That has always been the plan.

eph12:
I see some names that have no chance of being in the team when the season starts proper. Why do we keep playing them during preseason?

The regular ones are still on holiday na

GloryIsaac:


That has always been the plan.

Lol maybe you haven't been paying attention cos OGS and his coaches aren't changing to 4-3-3. He prefers 4-2-3-1 it's so clear as day, this preseason that's the formation being used Pogba or no Pogba.

chidexxy007:

That's not true..

Nothing spectacular but surely wasn't a poor outing.

Well by his usually world class standard during pre-seasons, he's well off the pace.

handelex:
Well by his usually world class standard during pre-seasons, he's well off the pace.

Yea, but again it's the first game.

handelex:
Meanwhile....

Manchester United do not agree to match Real Madrid’s €60m price tag for Varane, at the moment. @jfelixdiaz

It's madness if they match that and nobody is willing to match their valuation for Pogba

chidexxy007:

The regular ones are still on holiday na

They should use more youngsters. Those ones still have a chance at the club

handelex:
Lol maybe you haven't been paying attention cos OGS and his coaches aren't changing to 4-3-3. He prefers 4-2-3-1 it's so clear as day, this preseason that's the formation being used Pogba or no Pogba.

Without mcfred too

handelex:
Lol maybe you haven't been paying attention but OGS and his coaches aren't changing to 4-3-3. He prefers 4-2-3-1 it's so clear as day, this preseason that's the formation being used Pogba or no Pogba.

To clarify.

It doesn’t matter the formation between a 4231 and 433. In-play, both function similarly. There’s usually a defensive midfielder, and two midfielders playing upfront.

As the match progresses, based on abilities and coaching instructions, players may switch occasionally.

That’s how Fred played alongside Casemiro and Lucas Paqueta in the Copa America. Fred and Paqueta move upfront, while Casemiro holds sway in defense.

At United, it’s supposed to be same, but Fred can’t venture far from his position into his preferred area because it exposes McTom, and inadvertently the defence, and vice versa.

This is what really caused the talk of Fred playing as a CM or DM, and subsequently, dragging of a fellow comrade

This was why the Bruno, Pogba, Matic midfield worked till Olé ran them into the ground lmao

So it really doesn’t matter how the formation looks on paper, 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. The midfielders end up doing basically the same job on the pitch.

GloryIsaac:


There’s a reason Real Madrid is considered the best club in the world. Why they’re called “Galacticos”.

For how long did Bruno ‘excel’ with McFred? There’s a limit to things, eventually, it’ll toll on the player as it did on Bruno. That is not a sustainable way of dominating football.

This is the exact reason players run away once a better club comes along.

The goal is simple; to play with better quality players.

Can’t predict the future, but based on previous performance, Pogba is likely to perform way better at PSG. I just hope some people don’t pin it on Olé.

There are players who don’t need world beaters around them to do their job. Pogba is not one of those.

Veratti will always be Veratti, even if you place him in Eyimba. They might lose games but you’ll see a marked difference when he’s on the pitch. Same cannot be said about Pogba.

He seldom rises to the occasion. He’s a polar player- either very hot or very cold. He scored a worldie to take France 3-1 up vs Switzerland in the last Euro and then stvpidly lost the ball in a dangerous position which led to the the goal that started the opponent’s comeback. That’s the problem. If his range is from warm to very hot we won’t be having this convo.

You cannot know what to expect from Pogba going into a game. He can be cold or hot and he can also be cold AND hot. He doesn’t have a good, consistent level of performance. It’s not good for a player of his caliber.

And lastly, you are making Pogba look like a carryalong player from the way you are defending him.

GloryIsaac:


To clarify.

It doesn’t matter the formation between a 4231 and 433. In-play, both function similarly. There’s usually a defensive midfielder, and two midfielders playing upfront.

As the match progresses, based on abilities and coaching instructions, players may switch occasionally.

That’s how Fred played alongside Casemiro and Lucas Paqueta in the Copa America. Fred and Paqueta move upfront, while Casemiro holds sway in defense.

At United, it’s supposed to be same, but Fred can’t venture far from his position into his preferred area because it exposes McTom, and inadvertently the defence, and vice versa.

This was why the Bruno, Pogba, Matic midfield worked till Olé ran them into the ground lmao

So it really doesn’t matter how the formation looks on paper, 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. The midfielders end up doing basically the same job on the pitch.

Not exactly true. The 2 formations are similar but there are functional differences between them and i don't think the players do basically the same job.

1) In a 4-3-3 there is no place for a no10/SS the way Bruno plays it. None of the 3 midfielders in a 4-3-3 would be as advanced as Bruno.

2) In a 4-2-3-1 the 2 deep midfielders are actually quite disciplined (or at least they are meant to be) and you don't get a true box to box midfielder. In a 4-3-3 you only need one disciplined holding midfielder while the other 2 can play box to box roles (OR more advanced roles).

3) Also crucially in a 4-3-3 you don't get such a difference in attacking and defensive responsibilities between the players like you get with Bruno and the rest of our other midfielders. Think of Kroos and Modric for instance who play in a 4-3-3 OR when D.Silva and KDB played in City's 4-3-3.

handelex:
[s]Gerrout.

wetin na no be when managers win trophies dem dey reward with contract. Una own be opposite; after Van gaal win una sack am, even Mou self, so the only hopeful way to sack Ole na for him to win trophy


I believe Ole could win a [teacup] trophy next season

TheLequte:


There are players who don’t need world beaters around them to do their job. Pogba is not one of those.

Veratti will always be Veratti, even if you place him in Eyimba. They might lose games but you’ll see a marked difference when he’s on the pitch. Same cannot be said about Pogba.

He seldom rises to the occasion. He’s a polar player- either very hot or very cold. He scored a worldie to take Italy 3-1 up vs Switzerland in the last Euro and then stvpidly lost the ball in a dangerous position which led to the the goal that started the opponent’s comeback. That’s the problem. If his range is from warm to very hot we won’t be having this convo.

You cannot know what to expect from Pogba going into a game. He can be cold or hot and he can also be cold AND hot. He doesn’t have a good, consistent level of performance. It’s not good for a player of his caliber.

And lastly, you are making Pogba look like a carryalong player from the way you are defending him.

@1st emboldened.

This is Pogba in summary. However, the France goof was noticed because no one could cover as usual, not even Kante, and it led to a goal.

In other instances, either someone always covers or it doesn’t lead to a goal. While he still remains a real threat to the opponent.

If the Swiss lost that counter-attack, no one will make mention of Pogba losing the ball. Rather, he’ll be hailed as the man that downed Switzerland or whatever praise the media finds for him, with highlights of exquisite passes and all that stuff.

You see the difference?

@2nd emboldened.

Technically, yeah.

When purchasing a tool, it’s important you know how to use it. United did but forgot to read the manual, then blame the tool for not working well lmao

eph12:

Without mcfred too

Yes, without them too.

afrodoc2:
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Not exactly true. The 2 formations are similar but there are functional differences between them and i don't think the players do basically the same job.

1) In a 4-3-3 there is no place for a no10/SS the way Bruno plays it. None of the 3 midfielders in a 4-3-3 would be as advanced as Bruno.

2) In a 4-2-3-1 the 2 deep midfielders are actually quite disciplined (or at least they are meant to be) and you don't get a true box to box midfielder. In a 4-3-3 you only need one disciplined holding midfielder while the other 2 can play box to box roles (OR more advanced roles).

3) Also crucially in a 4-3-3 you don't get such a difference in attacking and defensive responsibilities between the players like you get with Bruno and the rest of our other midfielders. Think of Kroos and Modric for instance who play in a 4-3-3 OR when D.Silva and KDB played in City's 4-3-3.

False.

Brazil played 4-2-3-1. Why wasn’t Fred disciplined?

No top team uses two defensive midfielders, 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 irrespective. United is in this situation solely because of player ability, and possibly coaching flaws.

The fact that Olé goes as far as playing Pogba as a LW just to have him contribute to the midfield is enough reason to see McFred flaw.

Pls where can I stream today's friendly match. Kindly provide a link pls. Thank you
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GloryIsaac:


To clarify.

It doesn’t matter the formation between a 4231 and 433. In-play, both function similarly. There’s usually a defensive midfielder, and two midfielders playing upfront.

As the match progresses, based on abilities and coaching instructions, players may switch occasionally.

That’s how Fred played alongside Casemiro and Lucas Paqueta in the Copa America. Fred and Paqueta move upfront, while Casemiro holds sway in defense.

At United, it’s supposed to be same, but Fred can’t venture far from his position into his preferred area because it exposes McTom, and inadvertently the defence, and vice versa.

This is what really caused the talk of Fred playing as a CM or DM, and subsequently, dragging of a fellow comrade

This was why the Bruno, Pogba, Matic midfield worked till Olé ran them into the ground lmao

So it really doesn’t matter how the formation looks on paper, 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. The midfielders end up doing basically the same job on the pitch.

It matters really cos if it didn't, coaches won't mind. That double pivot is of utmost importance in shielding the defense[here McFred excels] and providing options for ball progression[here McFred is average] hence the need for Pogba.

It's true that players may switch occasionally and advance up the pitch like in the case of Fred with Brazil but Tominay ain't no DM talk more of being a Casimeiro.

That's why I still maintain that even if we get a proper DM Ole will still be using 4-2-3-1 and we'll get to see the very best of Fred as a proper box to box.

patwilly:
Pls where can I stream today's friendly match. Kindly provide a link pls. Thank you

MUTV

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