Illimitable:


They are just consumers.

Football provides entertainment and you pay to watch the entertainment. Just like you paying to watch an opera. It’s a transactional business. This is why most club owners don’t rate football fans.

You(as a fan) do not have the rights to decide how the opera must play to your taste or complaining that one of the opera’s soprano isn’t strong enough. Those are some of the entitlements football fans get to enjoy.

Imagine someone as daft as QueenAlabi sitting in the stands bellowing match tips at world class athletes. “Come on KDB, cross it! Yeah yeah, make the run, drop back”.

The audacity!

You didn't answer my question. What is football without the fans watching them or buying their merchandise?

Sanity might be gone totally from this board

Like wtf

Bombblacks:

You didn't answer my question. What is football without the fans watching them or buying their merchandise?

There wouldn’t even be a stadium to go to if there are no club owners.

Bombblacks:

You didn't answer my question. What is football without the fans watching them or buying their merchandise?

If you dont go to the stadium to watch someone else will

Last year most stadiums were empty yet clubs still made money

Where they make the most money is from commercial revenue. The only reason they pretend to care about the stadium going fans is for PR

Illimitable:


There wouldn’t even be a stadium to go to if there are no club owners.

You are still not answering the question. Without fans watching football ( stadium or tv) or buying merchandise what is football?

eph12:

When the drive is Musa from isale eko

Na my coach you dey call Musa

raumdeuter:


If you dont go to the stadium to watch someone else will

Last year most stadiums were empty yet clubs still made money

Where they make the most money is from commercial revenue. The only reason they pretend to care about the stadium going fans is for PR

You are typing out of point from what my post means.

Illimitable:


It’s a club rivalry thing. Pogba had made some nasty comments about PSG in the past. It’s got nothing to do with skills.

Gueye, Herrera and many other bums are playing for PSG, so why wouldn’t they want Pogba if it’s about football skill?

This is the back story…..

There are some players that fans will keep rivalry aside and welcome them with open hands. Pogba is not one of them, he hasn't shown why he should

raumdeuter:


How much do you think Man utd make, and how much of these come from these section of fans. You are supporting a global team, the more they go global, have global ambitions, the local fans impact reduce

Its now a business, All the players are there because of a fat paycheck and will leave if anyone offer them more money. If you want the connection, you will be supporting FC United of Manchester who play all local youths

Alaba who grew up in Bayern academy is now wearing and kissing Madrid badge, where is the connection?

If I stop supporting Bayern today, minus the $200 jersey I buy a year what will a Billion Dollar brand miss?

Fans that are as fickle as fück. The most entitled set of people you would ever come across.

For instance look at the section of United fans that disrupted a match last season shouting “Glazers Out” - as if it’s realistic to remove the owners of a club via riots.

Ask the average fan to choose between his club doing community outreach versus his team losing, he would say fück the community, give me a trophy.

Ask the average fan to choose between having a foreign owner whose source of money is questionable but he can bring in Ronaldo, Messi, etc versus a local businessman who can only bring in a striker from Oldham Athletic and every fan would choose the corrupt foreign owner.

Bombblacks:

You are still not answering the question. Without fans watching football ( stadium or tv) or buying merchandise what is football?

There were virtually no fans in the stadium during the pandemic and the owners still thrived.

Fans are overrated. Make Una dey calm down.

afrodoc2:




I no know say you sef sabi set trap like this.

Glad to find out he wasn’t serious all along

Illimitable:


There were virtually no fans in the stadium during the pandemic and the owners still thrived.

Fans are overrated. Make Una dey calm down.

I didn't tell you about stadium only. I said what is football without fans watching and buying their clubs merchandise?

Bombblacks:

You are typing out of point from what my post means.

What does connection to a team mean from your POV?

Bombblacks:

I didn't tell you about stadium only. I said what is football without fans watching and buying their clubs merchandise?

Assuming you do not live in Manchester, What connection do you have to Man Utd that you think its important for a Business

raumdeuter:


What does connection to a team mean from your POV?

I have already moved away from that argument. Learn to keep up.

raumdeuter:


Assuming you do not live in Manchester, What connection do you have to Man Utd that you think its important for a Business

Illimitable:


What silly connection?

You people overrate yourselves.

You are a mere phytoplankton of the footballing food chain .

Keep up

There is no successful product without consumers patronizing such product. Remove fans from football and it’s dead period.

It’s the same fans that buy tickets for games, subscribe their cable TV to watch games, buy merchandises from club outlets, pay to visit the clubs for tourism etc...

Without the huge followership from fans, there will be no huge deals to sign because no markert available for advertisements. This one no be rocket science nau

handelex:
There is no successful product without consumers patronizing such product. Remove fans from football and it’s dead period.

It’s the same fans that buy tickets for games, subscribe their cable TV to watch games, buy merchandises from club outlets, pay to visit the clubs for tourism etc...

Without the huge followership from fans, there will be no huge deals to sign because no markert available for advertisements. This one no be rocket science nau

That's why I have been asking the same question and he was beating around the Bush
There is basically no revenue without fans. Tv deals, Kits and merchandise, stadium revenue etc Imagine the audacity for one to think fans don't own football and are overrated.

Bombblacks:

I didn't tell you about stadium only. I said what is football without fans watching and buying their clubs merchandise?

How did football survive for decades before 1975 when Leeds became the first club to sell football shirts in the form of replicas to their fans?

Stop overrating yourself.

handelex:
Na my coach you dey call Musa

I no even mention any name o

Bombblacks:

That's why I have been asking the same question and he was beating around the Bush
There is basically no revenue without fans. Tv deals, Kits and merchandise, stadium revenue etc Imagine the audacity for one to think fans don't own football and are overrated.

So the fans get nothing in return with all the money they put into football?

It’s just donation as far as they are concerned?

You people are jokers.

Illimitable:


How did football survive for decades before 1975 when Leeds became the first club to sell football shirts in the form of replicas to their fans?

Stop overrating yourself.

You haven't provided an answer. So I ask again what is football without fans watching and buying their mechandise?

Illimitable:


So the fans get nothing in return with all the money they put into football?

It’s just donation as far as they are concerned?

You people are jokers.

Is that an agreement that football is nothing without fans?

Bombblacks:

You haven't provided an answer. So I ask again what is football without fans watching and buying their mechandise?

I didn’t actually say football can survive without the fans. I said the fans overrate themselves - they see themselves more important than what they are actually worth.

The bottom feeders in a food chain are also important but not as important as the levels above them. In the football pyramid, the fans are the least important. You are just consumers at the end of the day.

If you don’t go to Old Trafford, other people will. If all the Manchester United fans residing in Manchester boycott United games, neutrals from other parts of the world would attend the games and watch.

It’s a global business now. So you and your boycotts are irrelevant.

Sniper4real:
Raphaël Varane is set to become the ninth player to play for both Manchester United and Real Madrid �⚪️


_Can you name the other 8?_

Ronaldo
Heinze
Di Maria
Hernandez(Chicharito)
Owen

Beckham

My brain has frozen.

This season no go easy...See men from both camps fully on ground waiting for the start of the season...

I remain a member of the Ole out brigade and I'll stand by my members to drag Ole if he continues his choke job...

Sniper4real:
Raphaël Varane is set to become the ninth player to play for both Manchester United and Real Madrid �⚪️


_Can you name the other 8?_

Laurie
Rvn
Ronaldo
Heinze
Becks
Di Maria
Owen
Hernandez chicharito

I have enough bookmark already to drag people shamelessly. Any win just get ready

Illimitable:


I didn’t actually say football can survive without the fans. I said the fans overrate themselves - they see themselves more important than what they are actually worth.


The bottom feeders in a food chain are also important but not as important as the levels above them. In the football pyramid, the fans are the least important. You are just consumers at the end of the day.

If you don’t go to Old Trafford, other people will. If all the Manchester United fans residing in Manchester boycott United games, neutrals from other parts of the world would attend the games and watch.

It’s a global business now. So you and your boycotts are irrelevant.

They generate all the revenue. Without fans that's zero revenue. If they generate all the revenue, what's their worth?

Sniper4real:
Raphaël Varane is set to become the ninth player to play for both Manchester United and Real Madrid �⚪️


_Can you name the other 8?_

At of all the 9. Na we sell 95% to them. Them too stingy to sell to us