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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 11:39pm On Jul 26, 2021 |
ObaIgwe1: Bro, this is a team and not a military camp where orders are marshalled and people are court marshalled for having an opinion. When Guen's issue happened, I was the first to say I would have frozen him out of the team until he apologized and if that does not happen, trade him! That brings me to Saliba..What exactly was Saliba's crime? This is a genuine question I am asking you. Where was Saliba disrespectful? Even Arteta acknowledged Saliba deserved to be treated better considering what he has endured in his personal ife with losses and injuries? Here is the full quote of Saliba's comment“It is clear that so much has changed in the last year. “When I saw that the coach changed, a lot changed for me too. In this year there has been a lot of change. He judged me on two-and-a-half matches. I would have liked for him to play me more. But he told me I wasn’t ready. “I was waiting for him to give me a chance, but football is like that. When I initially came to Arsenal the league looked very good so I showed up to training and wanted to train on my own to show the coach I was ready. “I am happy now, I want to play for Nice. The idea when you’re part of a team is a better feeling for me.” This 19 (at the time) year old was desperately waiting and yearning for Arteta's approval after the coaching change and what has Arteta done in public about him? Arteta has thrown the kid under the bus several times during press conferences without even spending a time with him. Arteta never visited this kid while he was on loan and when he returned, Arteta never had a single conversation with him except the one where he told him he was not ready. The kid just wanted to feel like a member of the team! This is nothing but a power trip by Arteta! We have never heard or read anything about a Saliba/ Arteta interaction. The U-23 games he played, Arteta never watched anyone himself! Luiz nearly led a coup against him during the season along with senior players, we heard rumors of clashes between the senior players and Arteta but this same Arteta offered Luiz an extension which Luiz declined..thank God. So what are we talking about? Do you think the young players are not seeing how he is failing to hold the senior players accountable? Arteta did this same crap with Pepe, thank goodness Pepe chose to keep it under wraps. Hoping Saka and ESR don't get disrespectful is not a good way to hope he manages issues because it does not assure anything. Arteta would rather play a useless and fat Willian over giving a Nelson a run in a cup competition and now he is offering Nelson an extension which Nelson has turned down! Would that be considered disrespectful? You think those young gunners are not watching? As a manager or leader in any capacity, you must be open to handling different personalities, conflict resolution and individualized man management. Throwing your team under the bus to protect your image and punishing younger ones who talk by selling them is no way to gain respect. Team dynamics are very important and they never occur because of a perfect team because healthy conflict is an integral aspect of a successful team. I have been privileged to lead people in different capacities, in different spheres of life and it is important to note that being a manager does not necessary mean you are a leader! Baba, I have seen it all when it comes to managing people from diverse backgrounds and personalities and have made some tough decisions. If you follow some of my posts closely you will see I don't joke with leadership. Infact, a leader can be the weakest link in your group. Your team can see you as a manager because you are their but not their leader. Sorry for the long post everyone 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 2:11am On Jul 27, 2021 |
Roland17: Whao! So many info I never heard of here... Especially the coup plan. Anyway different people have different approach to same issue. But Arteta doesn't have to visit all players on loan na. And videos of all the matches are available for Arteta to watch and judge. Also Saliba was not the only one sent out on loan na... Why na him get big mouth? And telling him to go on loan is not throwing him under bus. It means get more experience and prove yourself. Even better than sitting and warming the bench. We were not there and we really don't know how many conversations they had. And if Arteta feels the boy is not ready or fit for his plan, then let's respect that, than judging the coach over a player emotional outburst. After all Arteta is the 1st to get the stick when the team fail. I have nothing against Saliba, I think he is a good defender, though not seeing him as a fantastic defender either... judging by his few matches I watched, and I am also no Arteta fan, but these managers see these players more than us especially at the training... and they know them more than we fans... So when the managers make decisions I don't understand or that looks stupid... I give them the benefits of knowing better until the results show otherwise. If Arteta continue the new season the way he ended the last few matches of last season, we might be in for a better season. So for now I will stand with him. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:02am On Jul 27, 2021 |
daveP:I understand. But not when it comes to the issue of racism. It's a no go area. It's a crime. One must have to speak up and speak out. My point is I don't like gossip or castigation. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:11am On Jul 27, 2021 |
When it comes to rift between leader and subordinate, it is the later that must show restraints, no matter who is right or wrong. After that the analysis begins. Saliba questioning his boss' ability/judgement publicly is insubordination. That's not even like he is van Dyke or better than all the defenders we have. Let's assume his being sent on loan is a punishment, it is not even proportional. A lot of players are sent on loan, Odegaard was with us last season from Madrid, same as Ceballos for more than a season. They took it and moved on. Public criticism of your boss is a red line and a red flag. 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nezzjnr: 8:55am On Jul 27, 2021 |
This my thread E don Tay |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 10:30am On Jul 27, 2021 |
daveP:He's right, I hate players like that You either speak up when you are in the system or don't speak at all It's like ozil coming out to blast arsenal for his treatment, but as you can see he didn't speak at all cos he was part of the problem. Gini wanted more money lfc didn't give him he started nagging There's nothing stopping him from doing same to Paris, thank God lfc have plenty black players he could have played the race card I support spy the guy is a coward 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Afobear: 2:51pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Mods!!!!! Shut this thread down for good |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:13pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Please ignore the attention seeking rat on patrol. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Silentgroper(m): 3:14pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Afobear:Wetin u smoke? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jencejyde(m): 3:40pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
ObaIgwe1: On point! From a footballing perspective, I concur with this. 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:37pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 4:45pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Spy360: Dem come late! I have been preaching Patino's gospel since last year, I even asked for him to be included in the preseason games. Another one is Kido Taylor Hart. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 6:11pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
iamoyindamola: Well, for issues like this, very few players wants such attention. They've weighed it all and the cam and blitz for negative news, as they see it, doesn't work it for them. Very few can do it. As for Gini wanting more, that's an angle. But i won't lie, very few want to talk out and if they do, its cos they've damned the consequences coming. The other side of football!! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by johnjunior39(m): 10:51am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Omo I will give Inter Milan Lacazatte and Bellerin plus 20million for Martinez L ohhhh hahahaha. If the want Torreria as thanks for coming self no wahala 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 10:53am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Abeg how many years them go use announce uncle white Shebi he didn't play much in euros, he no fit cut him break join us Are you sure this guy wan play for us sef |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 10:54am On Jul 28, 2021 |
johnjunior39:That torreira just they irritate me everytime They should give inter bellerin and torreira |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by johnjunior39(m): 11:33am On Jul 28, 2021 |
iamoyindamola: Ahahahahaha, today is Wednesday oh my brother |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 11:42am On Jul 28, 2021 |
johnjunior39:It won't happen. We are not signing any striker this TW. In fact the only signing apart from White will be a goalkeeper. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 11:42am On Jul 28, 2021 |
iamoyindamola: Torriera just made me hate the idea of the club signing any latin/south american player going forward. Make all of them getat! How will u sign a player and few years into the contract he starts whinning like a baby crying for his mother's bress ? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 11:47am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Spy360: If this ends up being the case, then the club management is still not ready to grow the club beyond where Wenger left it. It means they are okay with just playing EPL (and not competing for any good finish), FA cup(getting to the quarter/semi finals and insha Allah), and Carabao cup (then allow Arteta's former boss win his personal cup) 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:48am On Jul 28, 2021 |
BlueRayDick:Na wetin ruin adriano career be this, not getting over losing love ones I know e they pain but life goes on i'm sure him mama no go like as he they cry around instead of concentrating on football I just tire for the guy jare |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:51am On Jul 28, 2021 |
Bros i am having this feeling after ben white make we go drink water as TM dan end for us johnjunior39: |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by johnjunior39(m): 12:30pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
iamoyindamola:9 I do feel that we will probably sign Aour , I dont even see us signing a new goalkeeper self. My problem is nobody is moving out |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:39pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
johnjunior39:Exactly no one is moving out and when we exhaust the funds no one will surely come in As for goal keeper let me just keep quiet on that |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 12:51pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
BlueRayDick:Why did you think they are sharing big numbers to young players? Saka 7, ESR 10 and most likely Martinelli will get 11? It's because there hope all depends on those lads shining. If we couldn't get an AM last season why we didn't have any, why would you think we will get one when we have ESR? TW has ended. The best we can't do is GK. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:00pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
Spy360: I also noticed they gave Martinelli's jersey to that huge young lad...So na to just go pray make these boys grow to become men within the shortest possible time . Well, I don't have a problem with parading young players, I'm just bothered they may burn out even before december period when we have to play so many matches within few days. I also hope injury doesn't disrupt martinelli's transition into the starting line-up |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:05pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
iamoyindamola: Adriano was destroyed by drugs and alcohol. He's just a typical brazilian player who likes to flex but guess he took his own overboard and lost it. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:25pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
BlueRayDick:No he lost his father and the drugs happened afterwards(depression) |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:47pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
Mehn we deserve all the pain,sorrow and toture this club is giving us Can you imagine some fans recalling odegaard instead of we buying maddison, which kind people be this ffs Maddison want arsenal, odegaard wanted madrid but madrid dont want him Now we want to embrace him |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 3:09pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
iamoyindamola: lol. How are you even sure we are going to get either of the two including Aour? I am suspecting the reason they have not sold Willock or send him back on loan despite Newcastle screaming for the guy's signature is because they wanna use him instead. I can only wish them good luck hoping the improvement we saw from Willock at Newcastle is real and genuine. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:19pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
ObaIgwe1:We should sell willock abeg, maddison should be the first choice Then if xhaka is going we should go for bissouma not neves not auora |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:20pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
william starting again, e be like arteta is mad |
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