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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 5:52pm On Jul 29, 2021
Roland17:


Hahaaa. No vess but your knowledge of criminal intelligence Na beginners level. You think say dis Na Naija police investigation? Rest assured these cats have enough! I mean enough!! Including the ones they have not released.
We have normalized mediocrity in Naija now so tey responses like Kyari’s is seen an strong! Make him no near Dubai or any country affiliated with Interpol/ FBI..
Baba calm down let's discuss on the information we have and not what we don't. The only current tie linking Hush and Kyari is this alleged bribe not that Kyari scammed anybody or was part of any syndicate.

https://www.nairaland.com/6674598/hushpuppi-how-bribed-abba-kyari

Using Kyari explanation, if no transaction was made directly from Hush to him and he indeed paid to only the Tailor account directly then they have nothing on that part.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:53pm On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:


I doubt Abba Kyari did all that for N300k.

FBI won't chase Kyari for loose change. They've got that nigga on a lot more. That is just Kyari version of the story

You know what FBI want him for? They are claiming while Hush was in the middle of a major scam one of his guys Vincent wanted to blow off the lid and cast the whole parole because hush was trying to cheat him on the deal....So hush contacted Abba Kyari who helped him incarcerate Vincent after which the scam was successful.

By implication Abba Kyari helped them successfully carry out the scam by arresting Vincent and preventing him from blowing whistle.

All the evidence at their disposal showed abba kyari Knew what he was doing at that time because he even prevented Vincent's gf from paying the normal bail to get him released at that time.

Anybody interested in the full gist can go through the whole story in the link below, just paste the address in Ur browser and read thru :

ppgz.me/3ybjXsw

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 5:54pm On Jul 29, 2021
izzou:


So you think the FBI is looking for Kyari because of 300k wey Hushpuppy send to tailor?

You really think this is the reason?

grin grin grin grin


If you don't know that the said money is essential to the case then it means you haven't even read the court document.

The whole FBI case is based on proving that Kyari received money from Hush and that he knew what job Hushpuppi was talking about.

If they can't prove that he received money from him and they can't prove he knew the exact details of the Job, the case against him is dead on arrival.

This is from the FBI themselves "KYARI did not
request other information or evidence relating to CHIBUZO’s role in the scheme,
ask questions about the nature of the transaction, or ask about why CHIBUZO told
the Victim Businessperson that ABBAS was “fake.”

If you have to respond, please read the court document.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 5:55pm On Jul 29, 2021
Roland17:


They know Nigeria’s history with corruption so no they can’t work with Nigeria in nailing one of their own supercop.
I don't think the US will extradite their citizens if found guilty in a foreign country...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:56pm On Jul 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
EFCC fit get mind put American senior officials for their wanted list?

In Kyari's case, wouldn't it be more professional to work with their counterparts in Nigeria to bring him to book?

Ìbori was tried in Nigeria and discharged. The UK carried out their own trial.and he spent years behind bars. Nobody out there trusts Naija justice system to do things right

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 5:56pm On Jul 29, 2021
BlueRayDick:


You know what FBI want him for? They are claiming while Hush was in the middle of a major scam one of his guys Vincent wanted to blow off the lid and cast the whole parole because hush was trying to cheat him on the deal....So hush contacted Abba Kyari who helped him incarcerate Vincent after which the scam was successful.

By implication Abba Kyari helped them successfully carry out the scam by arresting Vincent and preventing him from blowing whistle.

All the evidence at their disposal showed abba kyari Knew what he was doing at that time because he even prevented Vincent's gf from paying the normal bail to get him released at that time.

Anybody interested in the full gist can go through the whole story in the link below, just paste the address in Ur browser and read thru :

ppgz.me/3ybjXsw

This is not true at all.

There's nothing in the document that proves Kyari knew the exact nature of the Job Hush was talking about.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 5:59pm On Jul 29, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Ìbori was tried in Nigeria and discharged. The UK carried out their own trial.and he spent years behind bars. Nobody out there trusts Naija justice system to do things right
Well, you have a point but let's look at it from the perspective that Kyari was American and the EFCC or any other country's anti-corruption watchdog had fingered him in a case, will the Americans throw him under the bus?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 5:59pm On Jul 29, 2021
It seems some people think he said this or that is an evidence in court. Even emails and messages can easily be forged so they are easily discarded and rubbished in court when presenting evidence. If there is not direct cash transaction evidence between Hush and Kyari then they have nothing.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:00pm On Jul 29, 2021
Itsrm:


If you don't know that the said money is essential to the case then it means you haven't even read the court document.

The whole FBI case is based on proving that Kyari received money from Hush and that he knew what job Hushpuppi was talking about.

If they can't prove that he received money from him and they can't prove he knew the exact details of the Job, the case against him is dead on arrival.

This is from the FBI themselves "KYARI did not
request other information or evidence relating to CHIBUZO’s role in the scheme,
ask questions about the nature of the transaction, or ask about why CHIBUZO told
the Victim Businessperson that ABBAS was “fake.”

If you have to respond, please read the court document.

Who talked about 300k? Kyari

Who talked about Tailor and Escrow? Kyari.

The US is saying that Kyari prevented Chibuzo from blowing up the scam, by arresting him on Puppy's orders.

And then your point is that he didn't receive 300k in his account, so he's smart.

Even SARS officials don't receive bribes into their personal accounts (ask Yahoo boys), yet they can be found guilty and prosecuted.

I will still repeat that Kyari's response has to be the dumbest one made in 2021

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 6:00pm On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:


I doubt Abba Kyari did all that for N300k.

FBI won't chase Kyari for loose change. They've got that nigga on a lot more. That is just Kyari version of the story

Everything is in the court document. They believe he deliberately arrested Chibuzor who is an associate of Hush to enable Hush scam an individual.

What they can't prove is that Kyari knew exactly what Job Hush was referring to.

Personally, I know he must have known but there's no way to prove it.

The case is not tight at all from my perspective. They don't have much on him
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 6:01pm On Jul 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
I don't think the US will extradite their citizens if found guilty in a foreign country...

It would depend on the extradition treaty/ law the US has with the foreign country. I will tell you the US has successfully extradited Americans who committed crimes against the US and were hiding in a foreign country.

An example will be be the Snowden situation..The US has been trying to extradite him for years now.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:03pm On Jul 29, 2021
izzou:


Who talked about 300k? Kyari

Who talked about Tailor and Escrow? Kyari.

The US is saying that Kyari prevented Chibuzo from blowing up the scam, by arresting him on Puppy's orders.

And then your point is that he didn't receive 300k in his account, so he's smart.

Even SARS officials don't receive bribes into their personal accounts (ask Yahoo boys), yet they can be found guilty and prosecuted.

I will still repeat that Kyari's response has to be the dumbest one made in 2021
You're acting like you know more than what is out there...I believe we all have access to the same information so, why are you trashing Kyari's reply? Do you have access to any other info we are not privy to?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 6:03pm On Jul 29, 2021
For those who are too lazy to read, this is the exact transcript of the VN Hush sent to kyari explaining what Chibuzor did

"What he did is, I have one job. The job want to pay me
500, umm, 75,000 dollars [i.e., $575,000]. He went to
message the job behind me because I told him to help me
make one document for me to give the job. Then he
went—he has a—I gave him the details. Then he went to
message the job behind my back and try to divert the
money and in this process he tell the job because of the
documents he gave me that I gave the job, he tell the job,
“These document they sent to you before. These people
are fake. This money—is me who can help you to get it.
Come to me le—bring this money you want to pay these
people to me. I’m the only one who can help you,” and
all these things to divert the job for himself."

That's all the FBI has
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:05pm On Jul 29, 2021
Roland17:


Hahaaa. No vess but your knowledge of criminal intelligence Na beginners level. You think say dis Na Naija police investigation? Rest assured these cats have enough! I mean enough!! Including the ones they have not released.
We have normalized mediocrity in Naija now so tey responses like Kyari’s is seen an strong! Make him no near Dubai or any country affiliated with Interpol/ FBI..
Forget they fit come carry am for midnight for him bedroom when he they do shedi balabala
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:05pm On Jul 29, 2021
Itsrm:


This is not true at all.

There's nothing in the document that proves Kyari knew the exact nature of the Job Hush was talking about.


Oya See the screenshots below

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:05pm On Jul 29, 2021
I feel it's too early for us to draw conclusions yet, let's give it time...

Some folks are acting as if people have not been wrongly jailed in the US, make una calm down.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:07pm On Jul 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
You're like you know more than what is out there...I believe we all have access to the same information so, why are you trashing Kyari's reply? Do you have access to any other info we are not privvy to?

In Nigeria, when you have a case against anybody, you go to a police station and report. A statement is given, and then the police takes it up from there.

In Hushpuppy's case, he called Kyari and Kyari made the arrest. No documentation. No petition. Is this how arrests are made in Nigeria? Especially from a Deputy commissioner of police?

Or can you patrickmuf arrest someone by just calling Kyari over the phone?

Let's discuss about this before I keep trashing that nonsense that a DCP made

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 6:09pm On Jul 29, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Oya See the screenshots below

What in this proves Kyari knew the exact nature of the job?

Your screenshot is the FBI narrating what they think happened with some quotes here and there

This is the transcript from which FBI drew their conclusion

What he did is, I have one job. The job want to pay me
500, umm, 75,000 dollars [i.e., $575,000]. He went to
message the job behind me because I told him to help me
make one document for me to give the job. Then he
went—he has a—I gave him the details. Then he went to
message the job behind my back and try to divert the
money and in this process he tell the job because of the
documents he gave me that I gave the job, he tell the job,
“These document they sent to you before. These people
are fake. This money—is me who can help you to get it.
Come to me le—bring this money you want to pay these
people to me. I’m the only one who can help you,” and
all these things to divert the job for himself.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:12pm On Jul 29, 2021
izzou:


In Nigeria, when you have a case against anybody, you go to a police station and report. A statement is given, and then the police takes it up from there.

In Hushpuppy's case, he called Kyari and Kyari made the arrest. No documentation. No petition. Is this how arrests are made in Nigeria? Especially from a Deputy commissioner of police?

Or can you patrickmuf arrest someone by just calling Kyari over the phone?

Let's discuss about this before I keep trashing that nonsense that a DCP made
Kyari told you the case was not documented?

If you know a police officer and you're out of town, will you accept if he refuses to act after sending him the picture and contact details of someone threatening to kill your family? Must a report be done via physical presence for the police to act?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 6:14pm On Jul 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
Kyari told you the case was not documented?

If you know a police officer and you're out of town, will you accept if he refuses to act after sending him the picture and contact details of someone threatening to kill your family? Must a report be done via physical presence for the police to act?

I don't think he lives in Nigeria for him to be asking if arrests are made in Nigeria with just phone calls. Really?

I've been at a police station when a man came to request they arrest his landlords son. No statement, no petition just verbal discussion.

Only thing he did was pay them 3k for fuel. So if he had their numbers, he could not have just called them to effect the arrest
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:14pm On Jul 29, 2021
Izzou, make we no act like say we no know how things dey play out, if Burna Boy is out of the country but reports a case of someone threatening his mum with his picture and details attached, you think the police won't act?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:16pm On Jul 29, 2021
Itsrm:


I don't think he lives in Nigeria for him to be asking if arrests are made in Nigeria with just phone calls. Really?
It's surprising seeing him talking as if it's not the Nigeria we know...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:17pm On Jul 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
Kyari told you the case was not documented?

If you know a police officer and you're out of town, will you accept if he refuses to act after sending him the picture and contact details of someone threatening to kill your family? Must a report be done via physical presence for the police to act?

The police would invite me for questioning. They won't arrest me, knowing that they have not heard my own part of the story.

But Kyari arrested him (Kyari said so) and said he later found out it was untrue.

Oya, explain this part, my Oga
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:21pm On Jul 29, 2021
izzou:


The police would invite me for questioning. They won't arrest me, knowing that they have not heard my own part of the story.

But Kyari arrested him (Kyari said so) and said he later found out it was untrue.

Oya, explain this part, my Oga
Police inviting you for questioning is what is suppose to play out but no be for this 9ja...

No be for this Government them lock Agba Jalingo say him want overthrow Buhari and Ayade?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:23pm On Jul 29, 2021
izzou:


The police would invite me for questioning. They won't arrest me, knowing that they have not heard my own part of the story.

But Kyari arrested him (Kyari said so) and said he later found out it was untrue.

Oya, explain this part, my Oga
No access to lawyer
The girlfriend couldn't pay for bail
The rule is suspect shouldn't spend more than 24hours behind bars or you charge them to court but he spent like a month or so
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:26pm On Jul 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
Police inviting you for questioning is what is suppose to play out but no be for this 9ja...

No be for this Government them lock Agba Jalingo say him want overthrow Buhari and Ayade?

I expected Kyari to tell us the details about the arrest. Give dates and documents to show that what he carried out was according to the law.

And not tell us that Chibuzo is alive and he also provides escrow for Ankara wears
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:26pm On Jul 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
Police inviting you for questioning is what is suppose to play out but no be for this 9ja...

No be for this Government them lock Agba Jalingo say him want overthrow Buhari and Ayade?

https://www.nairaland.com/6675796/breaking-full-extract-kyaris-conversation#104224460
Kindly read this
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 6:26pm On Jul 29, 2021
iamoyindamola:

No access to lawyer
The girlfriend couldn't pay for bail
The rule is suspect shouldn't spend more than 24hours behind bars or you charge them to court but he spent like a month or so
Are you sure these people live in Nigeria?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:35pm On Jul 29, 2021
Itsrm:


What in this proves Kyari knew the exact nature of the job?

This is the transcript from which FBI drew their conclusion

What he did is, I have one job. The job want to pay me
500, umm, 75,000 dollars [i.e., $575,000]. He went to
message the job behind me because I told him to help me
make one document for me to give the job. Then he
went—he has a—I gave him the details. Then he went to
message the job behind my back and try to divert the
money and in this process he tell the job because of the
documents he gave me that I gave the job, he tell the job,
“These document they sent to you before. These people
are fake. This money—is me who can help you to get it.
Come to me le—bring this money you want to pay these
people to me. I’m the only one who can help you,” and
all these things to divert the job for himself.



Guy what exactly are u in about here? Hush is already a confessed criminal who claimed he had his partner in crime; Vincent arrested by Kyari because he was going to blow the lid off the scam.

FBI must have confirmed the timing, prior to Vincent's arrest the crime had not been successfully carried out....then hush cashed out during his incarceration. Do honestly think FBI just out of the blues decide to add Kyari to the suit because they don't like Naija police? Recall Hush was picked up in June 2020, then february 2021 they are adding kyari to the charge sheet and applying for arrest warrant for him. You honestly think it's just hush's bluffing that made them go for Kyari 8 months after they got hush?

Honestly I'm beginning to think u are one of those who hate seeing our corrupt system being exposed by the western world.....so u are just trying everything possible to fault FBI's position in the face of probably cause.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:36pm On Jul 29, 2021
Trevor012:
Some people think Fbi are God or what cheesy cheesy. Please they have wrongly accused people in the past and gotten sued for some. Please rest

Federal cases have 99% conviction rate. Rest.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:38pm On Jul 29, 2021
Roland17:


Hahaaa. No vess but your knowledge of criminal intelligence Na beginners level. You think say dis Na Naija police investigation? Rest assured these cats have enough! I mean enough!! Including the ones they have not released.
We have normalized mediocrity in Naija now so tey responses like Kyari’s is seen an strong! Make him no near Dubai or any country affiliated with Interpol/ FBI..


Hahaha. So some niggas see that tailor story as legit defence grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 6:40pm On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:


Federal cases have 99% conviction rate. Rest.
That's a lie.

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