BKayy:

You are talking like someone that just woke up from 1945.
Google "Chinese Hypersonic missiles" and "Chinese intercontinental missiles"
The first has no existing defence at the moment

They talk as if the USA is sleeping without any defence measures, American have anti missle hardware stationed in Asia, Europe, Iceland, Canada and in strategic seas and islands. They will take it down as soon as possible.

some are saying US have lot of base but only a few of them can they launch attack, e.g US have base in Germany and Poland. Germany can fend for themselves if it get ugly unlike Poland.
any country US use it base to attack become enemy target, Poland will be overrun in a day against Russia unlike Germany, most of their bases don't have missiles defense system Iraq is example of one. some country just host the base for counter insurgent not against another nation, US can't defend them all. another point is this if Russia can't beat US those small country that have US base can be consolation since they are not fortify like US.

Perfectbeing:
No sovereign nation would just allow a part of it to secede without a fight. This is for those people that say cessation is not war.

This Taiwan were talking about has been governed separately for well over 60 years. We have a whole generation of people who have never lived under Chinese rule. Democracy is their reality. And you expect them to just submit to the Chinese?

Cessation is not war. It is self determination, which is a right enshrined in the charter of the United Nations. This is 2021 for God's sake. Just recently, in 2014 the Scottish people of the United Kingdom held a referendum. Majority voted to remain in the UK. Best believe, if they had chosen to leave the UK, Scotland would be an independent country now.

omanzo02:

They talk as if the USA is sleeping without any defence measures, American have anti missle hardware stationed in Asia, Europe, Iceland, Canada and in strategic seas and islands. They will take it down as soon as possible.

Chinese Supersonic reconnaissance drone was designed specifically for it. It was unveiled last year and experts call it "the end of US aerial dominance"
If China is not sure of victory, they wouldn't be daring US. When US was stronger than them, they didn't challenge but faked ignorance of Taiwan until now.
Taiwan is a trap for US, NATO and the entire west

emae009:


yen yen yen .... see Taiwan see China. Invade it or shut up. Too much noise dey cause headache.
Imagine if US were making this much noise on Iraq and Afghanistan

But they threatened North Korea and Iran. What did they do afterwards?

Perfectbeing:
No sovereign nation would just allow a part of it to secede without a fight. This is for those people that say cessation is not war.

Something that started in January.
I won't go into details but just know that experts say it would be better for the Northern region of Nigeria if it would be peaceful because of the "monsters of Sahel"

michresakidjo:


Where does china got her tech from??


Chinese Economic success is consequent on the pressure by United states that force china to open her economy for foreign investment, particulary the U.S manufacturing companies in return for China re-admision into U.N security Council. The deluge of the U.S companies entry into chinese market because of its large market prospect amd cheap labours led to the meteoric rise of china and its burgeoning economic miracle. All these under happened under Richard Nixon presidency...henry kissinger travelled to china also facilitated this.


Where did Most of chinese scientists study? Even xijinping daughter had her first degree from havard



U.S is just too a benevolent hegemon by accomodating china into WTO in 2001, remember china has over time run foul of the rule base System of this organization.... Free riding at U.S expense

Theft of the critical U.S cutting edge technology in a bid to fast track her global ambition of made in china 2025 more so... Coercive policies of transfer of U.S technology to domestic or local companies as a license for doing Business in china.... These practices has been going on for years until trump madness came on board to challenge and respond to the U.S compaines complaint about china trade policies.


U.S is home to largest concentration of Chinese International students in American versities and colleges, these students after their. Study went back home to establish withe help of the CCP even chinese reserchers are among.

You have an in-depth understanding of events. China has risen to enviable heights by theft and America's benevolence, and it has to stop. The US made China what it is today, and it did this hoping that as China becomes prosperous, it will become democratic. Unfortunately, the reverse is the case.

Masterito:
You said it all. I happy someone here understands the game.

The people here works differently, they are not noisy, intimidate and threaten indiscriminately like Russia and China does, but if you threaten them they will move quietly and surround your compound, they like taking the fight to your own ground. Their politics is too advance to keep shaking tables with harsh words.

omanzo02:

Lies! You are ignorant, Ukraine is not a NATO nation!

They intended joining but are not qualified.

Well there is a MAP (membership action plan) in place. I wud think that’s membership enough

Righteousness2:
The Sleeping Giant ( USA) Headed by Biden should tread with Caution.
Power has Change hands in the Spiritual realm. It's just waiting for the Physical manifestation.

USA, The Sleeping Giant aka Nomerica is on its way down. The Present leadership of America is there to pilot the Fall and Destruction of Babylon the Great. America today has turned its back on GOD and GOD has turned His back on Her.

The Countries I pity are the Countries looking to America to Help them. They will be Dissapponted. The US will not be able to help itself talkless of others.

Ogbeni go and sit down, you will just pick up your phone and start typing poo you think America and China are even comparable, many countries will even join America to crush China if the war gets tense.

dermmy:
The western hypocritical nations that have violated international laws and annexed lands that don't belong to them before and after the age of international law are now acting as saints. America agreed that Taiwan and China is one country under the Shanghai Communique that U.S. president Richard Nixon signed with China during his visit to the country in 1972.

China has every right to take Taiwan but i would just advice Xi JinPing to forget this irredentist ambition and move on.

are you also saying that Isreal has right to take and annexed Palestinian ?

CooKeed:


This Taiwan were talking about has been governed separately for well over 60 years. We have a whole generation of people who have never lived under Chinese rule. Democracy is their reality. And you expect them to just submit to the Chinese?

Cessation is not war. It is self determination, which is a right enshrined in the charter of the United Nations. This is 2021 for God's sake. Just recently, in 2014 the Scottish people of the United Kingdom held a referendum. Majority voted to remain in the UK. Best believe, if they had chosen to leave the UK, Scotland would be an independent country now.

Very naive submission. If the entire Scotland had voted to leave, they wud all have been chained down by now. Take d case of Spain as example. Where the Catalonias voted to leave. Wot is the aftermath? Then Taiwan has been separated for 60yrs u say? Do u know how long Hong Kong was separated from China, 500yrs! Still they got it back. Wot of Macau? 500yrs they got it! Wot is 60yrs?

FoolishBoy419:


But they threatened North Korea and Iran. What did they do afterwards?

Sanctions... US backed South Korea has more territory after the Korean War than before. Iran is economically out. If you're referring to Trump speech about Iran then that's a whole other topic.
Read the history of North Korea, Kim grandfather whom he's taking after started their nuclear program to force America to listen to them. When asked in an interview if he'd go to war with America, his reply was in the line of if he does that, then that's the end of North Korea; that he just want to bring America to get table.
why? Because it's universally known that no SAM is 100% efficient even the much talked about Iron Dome had a 90% interception against rockets. Now imagine if those rockets that weren't intercepted were nuclear warheads. That's why the world doesn't wanted Iran and the rest to have nuclear weapons. Every countries that has nuclear weapons apart from US and Russia have a no first use policy.

Righteousness2:


America leadership today has turned its back on Israel . Forget about the fake face they try to put out. Infact it is one of the Major reasons why they are headed for Destruction.

GOD will always fix Israel. Tho they will go through some troubles.

Hmmm..... so you believe those Israelis in Israel are the Jews God be referring to? If yes.... why don't they believe in Jesus? How can they be God's Chosen People and not believe in Jesus? How can they be God's chosen people and covet the lands of the Palestinians and have them hemmed in like animals ... slaughtering them at will? Was it God that fixed them in present day Israel?... or the pagan UN?

BKayy:

Chinese Supersonic reconnaissance drone was designed specifically for it. It was unveiled last year and experts call it "the end of US aerial dominance"
If China is not sure of victory, they wouldn't be daring US. When US was stronger than them, they didn't challenge but faked ignorance of Taiwan until now.
Taiwan is a trap for US, NATO and the entire west

Can you tell us how China is going to hit America mainland with their supersonic? Even Russia that has border with American in Alaska will find it difficult.
Last month Russia held military drill near border with America in the sea, since they were in international water America left them in peace and only monitored their movement.

Krismas:
Well there is a MAP (membership action plan) in place. I wud think that’s membership enough

That doesn't 3xist!

goodheart02:



Exactly bro. The world was actually sleeping when the US was working over night to create this web of strategies. Even the US mainland is far away from China or Russia's reach. Not every their so called hypersonic missile can hit any target of American soil owing to the distance. Sometimes I laugh when some ignorant folks on nairaland bring up their wack analysis of how China and Russia will decimate the West.

You arw actually the ignorant one here. A ballistic missile doesn't have to be launched from the home base alone. Submarines and carriers are there and now, countries are even thinking about launching space weapons.

Secondly, you seem not to be aware of the psychological effects of war. When the United states took their Thaad to South Korea, many of the citizens came out to protest. Once those nuclear warheads drop in one or two countries accommodating thosw bases, others will start pushing them out and rioting. And before you say anything, I hope you are aware that missile defense systems are never 100% accurate and all that it takes is for one bomb to hit home.

If USA was that more powerful than China they'd have invaded them a long time ago. America hates competition

China should better continue their silent steady rise and learn from Germany and Japan American will reduce them to rubble

BKayy:

For the last question, the answer is NO to an extent but one good thing that will come out of their victory if they manage to succeed will be the total decolonization and stop to perpetual extortion of Africa from the west in a bid to cripple their economy. Their victory will be liberation for Africa just like the West's victory in 2nd world war was Liberation for most of Asia

Lol... You think China is/will be better than the West, to Africa??

Krismas:
Very naive submission. If the entire Scotland had voted to leave, they wud all have been chained down by now. Take d case of Spain as example. Where the Catalonias voted to leave. Wot is the aftermath? Then Taiwan has been separated for 60yrs u say? Do u know how long Hong Kong was separated from China, 500yrs! Still they got it back. Wot of Macau? 500yrs they got it! Wot is 60yrs?

Very naive submission, you say? It would interest you to know that the referendum was with the consent of the UK government. Again, I say, if they'd voted to leave, Scotland would be an independent country today.


500 years? You should tell me where you get these figures from. Hong Kong was ceded to Britain in 1842.

Portugal agreed to transfer Macau to China in 1999.The United Kingdom agreed to transfer Hong Kong to China in 1997 and China agreed to guarantee Hong Kong and Macau's economic and political systems for 50 years after the transfer. We both known that China has not kept that promise.

Quite frankly, we can debate that China has the right to dishonour its promise to the British and the Portuguese. After all, they were colonialists with selfish ambitions. But we are talking about people here. People who were born in, and live under a different economic and political system. You can't just come and shove communism down their throat.

My opinion on Catalonia remains the same. If the Catalonians want to be independent, it is their right.

FoolishBoy419:





If USA was that more powerful than China they'd have invaded them a long time ago. America hates competition

Does that argument not apply to Iran and North Korea?

Righteousness2:
The Sleeping Giant ( USA) Headed by Biden should tread with Caution.
Power has Change hands in the Spiritual realm. It's just waiting for the Physical manifestation.

USA, The Sleeping Giant aka Nomerica is on its way down. The Present leadership of America is there to pilot the Fall and Destruction of Babylon the Great. America today has turned its back on GOD and GOD has turned His back on Her.

The Countries I pity are the Countries looking to America to Help them. They will be Dissapponted. The US will not be able to help itself talkless of others.

you wrote nonsense.....world power won't defend its self....even if they are unable other countries we defend them
And you talking about knowing God...let me ask you between americans and chinise who know God pass

If Trump was POTUS, I'll agree. But with Biden, I don't know

I Dont See China And America Going To War With Each Other Because Both Of Them Will lose Vita Things Like Their People , Investments And Soldiers.

obonujoker:


Lol... You think China is/will be better than the West, to Africa??

I can beat my chest and say Of course.
Although they will try to keep control on some certain things but they will be 100 thousand times better than the west.
One thing about it is that there will be upgrade to Black race like there was to them after the axis was defeated.
Had it been the axis was not defeated, China will be exactly like Nigeria.
The only reason why Taiwan is allowed a degree of freedom to develop is to make people think that the west would have allowed China prosper if the revolution/Civil war didn't happen.
Note this;
"When the west look at Subharan Africa, what they see is a farm suitable for exploitation but when China look at Africa, what they see is a potential market"
So tell me who would be better. Remember that Africa is up to date in this Phone age because of China. Minus China, only politicians would be using Android in Nigeria and Africa.

omanzo02:


Can you tell us how China is going to hit America mainland with their supersonic? Even Russia that has border with American in Alaska will find it difficult.
Last month Russia held military drill near border with America in the sea, since they were in international water America left them in peace and only monitored their movement.

Google "Chinese intercontinental ballistic missile". Its range is 9,000 mile and US is 7,233 miles from China.

RedEnergy:
2021 China defense budget around $200 billion. USA defense budget around $750 billion. Money wins wars. Ordinary small change Buhari bribed Kenya, they shipped Nnamdi Kanu to him, Igboho is still struggling with his own in Benin Republic. For the right price, they will ship Igboho to Buhari too. Now Imagine what Japan or India will do to help USA against China if they get like another $50 billion extra to what they have been getting before ? America doesn't just control the world with military power, they also control the world with money, free money they dash around.

Money wins war, but that's not where it ends. Many of you look at USA's budget without considering where the funds go. USA's weapons (and products by extension) are usually expensive and as world events have shown, their prices don't always match their usefulness. There's also the bogus amount paid in salaries and maintenance of so many bases (some of which are far away from its enemies in Asia).

For example, we have the S-400 which many countries and experts have rated above the THAAD and Patriot systems (which are far more costly).

The difference between US and other countries is that the military industrial complex is at liberty to maximize profit while companies in Russia and China can DARE NOT try that with their armies. So even though the US budgets more, the advantage isn't half as much as you think.

It seems you don't understand the economic ties, intellectual right and geographical danger and edge, Taiwan provides to the US and the neighbouring countries like Japan & South Korea around China. Please do your research well before commenting !!

dermmy:


U.S. won't do nothing if China invades Taiwan the only thing it can do is send Taiwan equipments. Ask yourself this question is U.S. willing to engage a Peer-Nuclear power over a small Island it does not have sovereign right over? The mutual defence treaty between U.S and Taiwan Sino-American Mutual Defence Treaty was terminated by President Jimmy Carter in 1979 and the offshoot of the defence pact Taiwan Relations Act has no mutual defence clause. China would incur the wrath of western nations but it can only manifest through economic sanctions.

But Japan is what i don't know cause Japan's southern Ryukyu Islands chain are closer to Taiwan than the Japanese mainland and much of Japan's export and import passes through the strait. Japan believes a Taiwan controlled by China would affect the free flow of commodities that pass through the Taiwan strait so Japan has a keen interest in the future of the country and has signaled it has an obligation to help the country should China invade.

aribisala0:
Does that argument not apply to Iran and North Korea?

Yes. Both countries are weak but they could still strike US allies. If they were as weak as 2001 Iraq or Vietnam, USA would have invaded them. After all, Iraq was invaded for the same "crime" that Kim Jong Un was showing off

omanzo02:

Since Russia has been flexing muscle and threatening their neighbours with war we have been noticing NATO military hardware moving eastward, Antwerp and Rotterdam ports have been receiving American hardware, Putin knows he is being surrounded hence he has been making noise.

Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania, Finland etc are beefed up.

Pic 1,2,3,4 anno 2021.

I laugh at you guys . Some of those countries you mentioned is just like Lagos. Can those tiny nations stand the wrath of China?
Russia is bigger than the entire Europe put together. That’s indication that those nations won’t take time to decimate . The strongest ally USA have is France and UK . I don’t Germany fighting any war. The other European nations are Like Lagos very small but when you hear their names it sounds big. Forget propaganda.
China promised to wipe out USA bases Within 30 mins. I wish the war will just be between military but civilians will suffer the brunt .
China will never allow HK and Taiwan to have independence because of NATO base. I will put my money on China In this war.

BKayy:

Please go and read about "Chinese Intercontinental Ballistic Missile"
It was unveiled last year. It has a range of 9,000 miles and USA is 7,233 miles from China.
The New supersonic reconnaissance unveiled by China same year was designed to locate all USA Aircraft carriers in the Pacific, crippling their aerial threat because US doesn't have any missile that can reach China from their soil yet.
My dear China is designed like an anti robot for a purpose which is to end USA. If China is not sure if victory, they wouldn't be daring US. For now, the greatest mistake of USA will be to engage China. Need I remind you that Russia alone has more 80% of all NATO fire power. The only difference is Aerial and man power. But Russia beats NATO in Tanks and nuclear power.
So you see, the reign of the west ended last year. The only thing remaining is for it to be official

What you are saying is very funny to me. Remember the famous quote: those that forget history are doomed to repeat it. It's barely 50 years ago that Germany almost singlehandedly defeated the entire USSR, the great Soviet Union in its greatest military might. Had Germany not been fighting against the whole of Europe at the same time to conquer it, only Germany will have conquered the Soviet Union. They like China believed so much in their military size and numbers, but a small country like Germany would have easily conquered them if not for Hitler's greed that he wanted to conquer the entire Europe at once. But think about it, a tiny Germany almost conquered Europe, if not for America and Britain. And then you think that Russia, that is a splinter remnant of USSR can conquer the EU? Forget all the noise and show, that's the difference between Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Russia always makees noise to show off its new bombs and weapons as a deterrent that they can protect themselves from external aggressors, but Western Europe keeps all their latest military developments secret, they don't make noise about it. The only reason Russia got away with annexing Crimea is that most people in Crimea are Russians and were ok to become part of Russia again. And Crimea has no major economic or military benefit for Western powers. So they let Russia keep Crimea. But China is different, they will never allow China take Taiwan because of the control of the South China seas. There's no way in this world they will let China have control of over 1 million mi^2 of ocean territory around China that is a strategic military and economic area. That's why they keep sending naval vessels to pass there and all China can do is make noise and bark and threaten but they cannot do anything. And that's why they won't let China take Taiwan.

And China's longest range hypersonic missiles has is the DF series, their maximum tested range is under 3,000KM. ICBMs or interballistic missiles are different from hypersonic missiles. There's no ICBM China will fire from any platform on land or sea aimed at USA soil that will reach USA. The US THAAD missile defense systems deployed across Asia will shoot it down right there in Asian skies. Why do you think China and Russia are developing Hypersonic missiles? They are doing it to have missiles that USA missile defense systems cannot neutralize before impact, but unfortunately they don't have the technology yet that can make their hypersonic missiles cover the distance to reach America. Do you think if America knows there is an enemy country in the world with hypersonic missiles they can't intercept 100%, and can reach US soil from a continent away, they will be sleeping and let that country pose a deadly threat to their dominance and existence? If China has a hypersonic missile that can reach mainland USA or even EU, trust me, US + EU would have looked for the slightest excuse or cook up lies to go to war and bomb China immediately to subdue them, like they cooked up lies of WMDs to overthrow Saddam Hussein or excuses to declare no fly zone over Libya and took down Gaddafi. All that power shift, China is now the World Superpower is just an illusion and a mirage. The real power, both political and military power lies with US + EU. The only thing that can bring another superpower takeover is if US and EU fight and destroy themselves. Just like Germany alone could conquer USSR, Germany alone today can conquer Russia with all the show off Putin is doing.

FoolishBoy419:


Yes. Both countries are weak but they could still strike US allies. If they were as weak as 2001 Iraq or Vietnam, USA would have invaded them. After all, Iraq was invaded for the same "crime" that Kim Jong Un was showing off

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