Jasobry:


Which paint maker is advised to use between Dulux, Berger,capl,csi etc and what's there coverage

I guess these are the only ones you know.
I only use Dulux for internal walls.

If you’re going for Dulux, just ensure you buy directly from their ColorCentre near you.

n3xt:


I guess these are the only ones you know.
I only use Dulux for internal walls.

If you’re going for Dulux, just ensure you buy directly from their ColorCentre near you.

Which other one bros, even the colour centre sef I dey fear.. have you used betek by wichtech?

n3xt:
Why is it that we hardly see a client ask their contractor/subcontractor/artisans “Is money the problem?”

I know I’ve had to deal with issues where the client tell his contractor “Shebi, you saw it before you gave me estimate?” “I paid you what you asked me!” “That’s my budget.”

Let’s reflect on this.


________

If you buy iron rod at N100k per ton last month and the same cost N200k this month, would you buy it or tell the supplier that’s what you budgeted for the project and you’re not paying more?

If you DIY your project and one of your tool of trade got faulty in the process, will you spend additional cost to repair the faulty equipment/tool or chose not to shift ground until the equipment maybe fixed itself?

Why then do we dramatically hold different standards for owner-managed projects and contractor-managed projects?

_________

Before you say contractors/professionals should know, “How many of us knew the cost of steel will go up by almost 80% in just 6 months?”

How many of us knew the price of 9 inches block will increase to N300 + in less than 8 months?

Let’s stop fighting each other and start dealing with the harsh realities of the Naija economy.

__________

Happy New Month!

WORDS

Actually all depends on contract agreement at initially stage.

I have a client here which both of us agreed on variation on any materials.
When we gave quotation then iron rod was 300k now it’s 460k TMT.
And both of us continue based on our agreement

Jasobry:


Which other one bros, even the colour centre sef I dey fear.. have you used betek by wichtech?

No. I’ve not.
___________

There are so many quality imported paints out there.

I don’t limit myself to the common paints that flood the market. It’s easier to buy a fake.

Jasobry:


Which other one bros, even the colour centre sef I dey fear.. have you used betek by wichtech?

I have used many paint product both imported and good locally made

I used one of best in the world in one of our project here, shawin-Williams each bucket cost 95k then.

I have also used dulux, caplux by dulux etc

1st pics dulux
2nd dulux
3rd shawin-Williams
Last pics dulux

Here is caplux

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n3xt:
Why is it that we hardly see a client ask their contractor/subcontractor/artisans “Is money the problem?”

I know I’ve had to deal with issues where the client tell his contractor “Shebi, you saw it before you gave me estimate?” “I paid you what you asked me!” “That’s my budget.”

Let’s reflect on this.

________

If you buy iron rod at N100k per ton last month and the same cost N200k this month, would you buy it or tell the supplier that’s what you budgeted for the project and you’re not paying more?

If you DIY your project and one of your tool of trade got faulty in the process, will you spend additional cost to repair the faulty equipment/tool or chose not to shift ground until the equipment maybe fixed itself?

Why then do we dramatically hold different standards for owner-managed projects and contractor-managed projects?

_________

Before you say contractors/professionals should know, “How many of us knew the cost of steel will go up by almost 80% in just 6 months?”

How many of us knew the price of 9 inches block will increase to N300 + in less than 8 months?

Let’s stop fighting each other and start dealing with the harsh realities of the Naija economy.

__________

Happy New Month!

#fact
Happy new month sir

n3xt:


No. I’ve not.
___________

There are so many quality imported paints out there.

I don’t limit myself to the common paints that flood the market. It’s easier to buy a fake.

Fact
Fake products everywhere this days
May almighty God direct clients to the right place.

GET VALUE FOR YOUR MONEY!

rotecch77:


I have used many paint product both imported and good locally made

I used one of best in the world in one of our project here, shawin-Williams each bucket cost 95k then.

I have also used dulux, caplux by dulux etc

1st pics dulux
2nd dulux
3rd shawin-Williams
Last pics dulux

95k? If that paint spill by mistake nko?

Jasobry:


95k? If that paint spill by mistake nko?

lol money lost

Jasobry:


95k? If that paint spill by mistake nko?

Smiles.

I understand you though. If it accidentally spills, it spills. Nothing happen.

That’s why I no fit mention name and price of paints

If you buy a multi-million dollar car and it skid off the road, what happens? You’ll kill the driver or sue the carmaker?

Even with best effort, there are inevitable constants in construction.

That’s the risk we bear in construction.

————-

I’ve shared here that I asked a painter to supply me some paint and he did but I ended up not liking the colour when he finished painting. I had to buy another paint and asked him to keep the one I rejected in my store

I was on a project and I had to buy 3 circular saw machine to cut boards on the project when the one I had broke down. I didn’t go into the project with a mindset that things won’t break.

If it breaks/spills/damage, we fix it and the project continues.

I’ve had to remove a whole roof because of misalignment.

Baba, you know these things na.

Please who make supply of quality pop cement?
I need 70bags and more to be delivered to delta state.
Respond with contact

Jasobry:


Which paint maker is advised to use between Dulux, Berger,capl,csi etc and what's there coverage

Regal paint is preferable. Silk would give you 50 sqm per drum for 2 coats.
I may say 100 sqm and omit the fact that you need to give 2 coats or much more after applying stabilising solution for a single coat.
I want to throw an open challenge to anyone here, I supply a gallon of my silk and promoters of foreign brands supply theirs too.
My painter applies it and their painter applies theirs and if the client without prior knowledge of which one is which distinguish them apart, I don't collect the money for it.
I have had my paint substituted with behr and another American paint at different times by contractors without any noticeable difference but it satisfies some that only something packaged by the white man can be better or excessively costly to be good.

Jasobry:


Which paint maker is advised to use between Dulux, Berger,capl,csi etc and what's there coverage

Have try using our products?

gbadexy:

If the wall is screeded, you may use matte or satin depending on budget and preference for sheen. Both are cleanable.
If the wall isn't screeded, you may prime and use the two types of paint as above.
Otherwise, you may use regular emulsion. No screeding or priming is required.

Is always advised to use Matt emulsion in exterior
Satin silk emulsion in interior
On a screed wall or primer

gbadexy:

I have had my paint substituted with behr and another American paint at different times by contractors without any noticeable difference but it satisfies some that only something packaged by the white man can be better or excessively costly to be good.

Smiles

The only paint that I’ve used that has given me total satisfaction was locally made. Most of the imported paints I’ve used are sparingly used to creat accent and original effects.

Question for Painters

If I may ask, how long should a paint last before it’d need a retouch/repainting?

I’d also like to ask “Are there paints that lasts forever?”

n3xt:


Smiles

The only paint that I’ve used that has given me total satisfaction was locally made. Most of the imported paints I’ve used are sparingly used to creat accent and original effects.

Question for Painters

If I may ask, how long should a paint last before it’d need a retouch/repainting?

I’d also like to ask “Are there paints that lasts forever?”

Which one

UC92:

Managing Procurement is one area everyone who calls himself a professional ought to pay attention to.
It is unfortunate this project went south.
The cost has been sunk. Trying to recover that money might take forever while the project suffers, the client loses time and more money.

Oga Micgray if I were you, I will forfeit that money and source for someone to do my job on good monitoring.

Oga UC92... as you can see from my request.. All I ask is a refund of 100k for settlement and count my remaining losses... Will appreciate if you can be of help since you feel the money is small to be requested by a registered Engineer.... My Account details is.. Gtbank... 0036162254.. Onakomaya Ade..

thanks..Will let the forum know when I see alert from you..

n3xt:


Good morning Bro!

Once again, it’s quite unfortunate that you both have to go through all these brouhaha.

Here’s one thing I’ve learnt in this trade, in order to have a worry-free experience when working on your building project, patience, tolerance and understanding must co-exist.

To be honest, you’re not impatient, delusional, or unrealistic to feel extremely frustrated right now but just like I’ve been preaching here - be the matured one on this.
Every construction project will always come with lot of ups and downs and periods where it seems like nothing is happening. Things will take longer than expected. Mistakes will be made. Communication will be poor.
Be prepared to make some concession and keep rocking your boat amidst the storm. At the end it will all be worth.

____________

There’s no perfect project but you can chose to have a great experience by making few concession.

It’s not always a money matter!

I understand you bro.. that is why I am asking for a refund of just 100k ....
if twinskenny brings in his 35k tracking money and we have people like you on the forum that can help with 50k... matter don settle... I will count my remaining losses...
like I said earlier.. This is a lithmus test for us all here on this forum... we should avoid it so it won't be a trend on this forum where artisan will collect money and tell you to go and bring your police..

n3xt:
Why is it that we hardly see a client ask their contractor/subcontractor/artisans “Is money the problem?”

I know I’ve had to deal with issues where the client tell his contractor “Shebi, you saw it before you gave me estimate?” “I paid you what you asked me!” “That’s my budget.”

Let’s reflect on this.

________

If you buy iron rod at N100k per ton last month and the same cost N200k this month, would you buy it or tell the supplier that’s what you budgeted for the project and you’re not paying more?

If you DIY your project and one of your tool of trade got faulty in the process, will you spend additional cost to repair the faulty equipment/tool or chose not to shift ground until the equipment maybe fixed itself?

Why then do we dramatically hold different standards for owner-managed projects and contractor-managed projects?

_________

Before you say contractors/professionals should know, “How many of us knew the cost of steel will go up by almost 80% in just 6 months?”

How many of us knew the price of 9 inches block will increase to N300 + in less than 8 months?

Let’s stop fighting each other and start dealing with the harsh realities of the Naija economy.

__________

Happy New Month!

Its practucally a TRUST issues.. Trust deficit is on the rise, especially or in relation to owner/contractor/engineer... We dont trust, even ourselves.... If you quote 100k to finish a job and youre paid, ENSURE you finish it! Most especially if its a small project that can be done with within a very short time, maybe in big proj we might have to consider some kind of variations.. What about labor charges...my bricklayer quoted 200k for labor, i told him to charge me based on d number of blocks, which is d standard around the area, he insisted that he doesn't do that, well i paid him, did d job to about 90% and started asking for more money, unfortunately have paid 100%, na so e abandon job o.. So my job wont suffer, had to pay extra. The tin pain me sha....The problem is TRUST.

n3xt:


Smiles.

I understand you though. If it accidentally spills, it spills. Nothing happen.

That’s why I no fit mention name and price of paints

If you buy a multi-million dollar car and it skid off the road, what happens? You’ll kill the driver or sue the carmaker?

Even with best effort, there are inevitable constants in construction.

That’s the risk we bear in construction.

————-

I’ve shared here that I asked a painter to supply me some paint and he did but I ended up not liking the colour when he finished painting. I had to buy another paint and asked him to keep the one I rejected in my store

I was on a project and I had to buy 3 circular saw machine to cut boards on the project when the one I had broke down. I didn’t go into the project with a mindset that things won’t break.

If it breaks/spills/damage, we fix it and the project continues.

I’ve had to remove a whole roof because of misalignment.

Baba, you know these things na.

You have ANSWERED the question perfectly OK.

Wetin remin ……abi

micgray100:

I understand you bro.. that is why I am asking for a refund of just 100k ....
if twinskenny brings in his 35k tracking money and we have people like you on the forum that can help with 50k... matter don settle... I will count my remaining losses...
like I said earlier.. This is a lithmus test for us all here on this forum... we should avoid it so it won't be a trend on this forum where artisan will collect money and tell you to go and bring your police..

You are angry Engr, and its within your right to be... And from what i have read here so far, its obvious you are not willing to part with any extra fund.. To the house, you see, perhaps engr is not happy even with the level of work done so far, if he does not like d work done, it might be difficult to ask him to pay more, maybe he just want to count his loss, collect what he can and move on..
Twinskenny, truth be told, you really mess up sha, one thing is to give a referral, another thing is to COLLECT money for the job... People go this far only if they have a cut or percentage, but you claim you have none, so why do this.. The truth is, you are responsible for this contract and you shoukd do everything to redeem it, even if it means paying 100k to micgray. We must be responsible for our actions and inaction and i wonder why d ELDERS here are beating around d bush..
Micgray, pls be ready to make concessions, you should be used to stuffs like this, its common in ur proffession... Make una forget Police abeg, they will only complicate matters, atleast at this stage.

….still on the paint/ it’s application on our project for a member here.

Here is the small container of it 5ltrs
The 20ltr was 95k then

dapotemi:
Please, i was just inform now that the guys that will dig my soakaway are requesting for 45k last....It will be 12 by 8.....depth will be 10 ft..
Please whats the average price for this....They will also use the sand to fill some shops am erecting just beside it. All is 45k..Location is mowe.

About a week ago, i ask this question and got a positive feedback that its ok... Well, the guy strated work on tuesday, he was paid 20k at d end of the day, to balance 25k at d end of his work, got a guy beside my site to help monitor him and i paid him 5k, just to monitor.. My digger no show face since he finish work on tuesday.. Hes not picking his call.. Someone saw him and they ask him why he has not gone to finish his work, he told them the ground is too hard... I gave this guy d job because i saw d work he did for some people, just about 10 mins walk from my site... I am saying this to let you know that artisan and nigerians generally are increasingly having this mindset of NOTHING GO HAPPEN... We need them (i cant dig soakaway even if you give me one year), we must devise a new method to face this new challenge, its increasingly worrisome.

dapotemi:



Its practucally a TRUST issues.. Trust deficit is on the rise, especially or in relation to owner/contractor/engineer... We dont trust, even ourselves.... If you quote 100k to finish a job and youre paid, ENSURE you finish it! Most especially if its a small project that can be done with within a very short time, maybe in big proj we might have to consider some kind of variations.. What about labor charges...my bricklayer quoted 200k for labor, i told him to charge me based on d number of blocks, which is d standard around the area, he insisted that he doesn't do that, well i paid him, did d job to about 90% and started asking for more money, unfortunately have paid 100%, na so e abandon job o.. So my job wont suffer, had to pay extra. The tin pain me sha.... The problem is TRUST.

I agree with your submission.

Some even deliberately underquote to get the job. You can’t trust most contractors/artisans completely with your money.

I asked someone to get me 10 bags of cement last week. He bought 4 bags and brought stories

I asked another guy to estimate the quantity of paving stones we need to buy for a small backyard project. He told me 9sqm. I gave him money for 4sqm. We still have almost 1 sqm left.

Unfortunately, you can’t do everything by yourself!

When we talk about managing a very good construction project, it’s actually about managing people and the processes.

—————

This is one of the reasons I’m not really in for rental properties (at least not in naija for now). I can’t imagine going through all these stress and someone somewhere still decide to owe me or mess up your building.

rotecch77:
….still on the paint/ it’s application on our project for a member here.

Here is the small container of it 5ltrs
The 20ltr was 95k then

Please show me where to faint

dapotemi:


About a week ago, i ask this question and got a positive feedback that its ok... Well, the guy strated work on tuesday, he was paid 20k at d end of the day, to balance 25k at d end of his work, got a guy beside my site to help monitor him and i paid him 5k, just to monitor.. My digger no show face since he finish work on tuesday.. Hes not picking his call.. Someone saw him and they ask him why he has not gone to finish his work, he told them the ground is too hard... I gave this guy d job because i saw d work he did for some people, just about 10 mins walk from my site... I am saying this to let you know that artisan and nigerians generally are increasingly having this mindset of NOTHING GO HAPPEN... We need them (i cant dig soakaway even if you give me one year), we must devise a new method to face this new challenge, its increasingly worrisome.

This is where a contractor/manager with good working relationship with his/her workers is mostly needed.

I have a good number of handy men that I can put on projects that won’t even request for a dime before they complete the job BUT they’d have scope the project and be sure they can handle it before jumping right on it.

5 years ago, I used 4 sets of diggers to dig one soakaway. They all ran away because the ground was too hard. In all honesty, the ground was hard.

I didn’t condemn or blame them. I had to find a way to solve the problem in case we encounter a similar problem on another project.

I recently bought a jackhammer to help my diggers work on hard grounds.

_________

Once again, it’s not always about money but how we manage our workmen.

Most client always think money. “I’ve paid. I’ve paid!!”

Once I see a very active worker lagging or slowing down, I’m not always in a rush to condemn them but try to find out how I can make his job easier.

dapotemi:


You are angry Engr, and its within your right to be... And from what i have read here so far, its obvious you are not willing to part with any extra fund.. To the house, you see, perhaps engr is not happy even with the level of work done so far, if he does not like d work done, it might be difficult to ask him to pay more, maybe he just want to count his loss, collect what he can and move on..
Twinskenny, truth be told, you really mess up sha, one thing is to give a referral, another thing is to COLLECT money for the job... People go this far only if they have a cut or percentage, but you claim you have none, so why do this.. The truth is, you are responsible for this contract and you shoukd do everything to redeem it, even if it means paying 100k to micgray. We must be responsible for our actions and inaction and i wonder why d ELDERS here are beating around d bush..
Micgray, pls be ready to make concessions, you should be used to stuffs like this, its common in ur proffession... Make una forget Police abeg, they will only complicate matters, atleast at this stage.

I understand you pretty well.. but truth be told I did all to safe the situation… I never knew referring someone will turn to a big issue like this.. one way or the other we are all product of recommendations and that actually won’t stop me from recommending people.. the said guy has done 3 job before and he did well on those job…

Yes the first 200k was transferred to my account and the guy actually got to site before the issues arrises.. I attached some screenshots and my communication with the said guy below.

I don’t have anything to gain from this rather just helping a brother

gbadexy:

Regal paint is preferable. Silk would give you 50 sqm per drum for 2 coats.
I may say 100 sqm and omit the fact that you need to give 2 coats or much more after applying stabilising solution for a single coat.
I want to throw an open challenge to anyone here, I supply a gallon of my silk and promoters of foreign brands supply theirs too.
My painter applies it and their painter applies theirs and if the client without prior knowledge of which one is which distinguish them apart, I don't collect the money for it.
I have had my paint substituted with behr and another American paint at different times by contractors without any noticeable difference but it satisfies some that only something packaged by the white man can be better or excessively costly to be good.

How much is 20ltrs of your silk and matte 20ltrs drum?

Jasobry:


Which paint maker is advised to use between Dulux, Berger,capl,csi etc and what's there coverage

You are in enugu why not check out Sharon..A trusted name for long now.or buy from the oga gbadexy naw...not sure why he didn't suggest his own paint...

Nero2424:


I love buildings with skylight but the baba Lati engineer discouraged my wife and she said no to it. He said flying witches will be monitoring our activities from the sky....

This is the type that I have in mind.

No winch can monitor through there