dapotemi:



Its practucally a TRUST issues.. Trust deficit is on the rise, especially or in relation to owner/contractor/engineer... We dont trust, even ourselves.... If you quote 100k to finish a job and youre paid, ENSURE you finish it! Most especially if its a small project that can be done with within a very short time, maybe in big proj we might have to consider some kind of variations.. What about labor charges...my bricklayer quoted 200k for labor, i told him to charge me based on d number of blocks, which is d standard around the area, he insisted that he doesn't do that, well i paid him, did d job to about 90% and started asking for more money, unfortunately have paid 100%, na so e abandon job o.. So my job wont suffer, had to pay extra. The tin pain me sha....The problem is TRUST.

dapotemi:


About a week ago, i ask this question and got a positive feedback that its ok... Well, the guy strated work on tuesday, he was paid 20k at d end of the day, to balance 25k at d end of his work, got a guy beside my site to help monitor him and i paid him 5k, just to monitor.. My digger no show face since he finish work on tuesday.. Hes not picking his call.. Someone saw him and they ask him why he has not gone to finish his work, he told them the ground is too hard... I gave this guy d job because i saw d work he did for some people, just about 10 mins walk from my site... I am saying this to let you know that artisan and nigerians generally are increasingly having this mindset of NOTHING GO HAPPEN... We need them (i cant dig soakaway even if you give me one year), we must devise a new method to face this new challenge, its increasingly worrisome.

twinskenny:
I understand you pretty well.. but truth be told I did all to safe the situation… I never knew referring someone will turn to a big issue like this.. one way or the other we are all product of recommendations and that actually won’t stop me from recommending people.. the said guy has done 3 job before and he did well on those job…

Yes the first 200k was transferred to my account and the guy actually got to site before the issues arrises.. I attached some screenshots and my communication with the said guy below.

I don’t have anything to gain from this rather just helping a brother

twinskenny:
I understand you pretty well.. but truth be told I did all to safe the situation… I never knew referring someone will turn to a big issue like this.. one way or the other we are all product of recommendations and that actually won’t stop me from recommending people.. the said guy has done 3 job before and he did well on those job…

Yes the first 200k was transferred to my account and the guy actually got to site before the issues arrises.. I attached some screenshots and my communication with the said guy below.

I don’t have anything to gain from this rather just helping a brother

somehow:


Maybe we should start employing hausas, cotonue and Togolese boys since some Nigerians artisans have chosen to be useless.

somehow:


Maybe we should start employing hausas, cotonue and Togolese boys since some Nigerians artisans have chosen to be useless.

Jasobry:


Please show me where to faint

n3xt:


Everywhere you turn, you’d almost hit a brick.

- Hausas now ride Okada instead of doing labour work. The hausa labourers you‘d see today are inexperienced and very lazy Hausas. The first thing you’ll hear from them is “How mush I go pay?”
- Because of the increase in demand for their service, Togolese & Cotonou artisans now use apprentice for their jobs.
- Yorubas now do Yahoo+ and Cultism
- Igbo artisans would rather do jobs that pays more.

N2,500 per day is really not cutting it anymore for most of these guys.

n3xt:


Smiles

The only paint that I’ve used that has given me total satisfaction was locally made. Most of the imported paints I’ve used are sparingly used to creat accent and original effects.

Question for Painters

If I may ask, how long should a paint last before it’d need a retouch/repainting?

I’d also like to ask “Are there paints that lasts forever?”

dongc:


You are in enugu why not check out Sharon..A trusted name for long now.or buy from the oga gbadexy naw...not sure why he didn't suggest his own paint...

Mup4life:
How much is 20ltrs of your silk and matte 20ltrs drum?

gbadexy:

I suggested Regal which is my brand name sir.

dapotemi:


About a week ago, i ask this question and got a positive feedback that its ok... Well, the guy strated work on tuesday, he was paid 20k at d end of the day, to balance 25k at d end of his work, got a guy beside my site to help monitor him and i paid him 5k, just to monitor.. My digger no show face since he finish work on tuesday.. Hes not picking his call.. Someone saw him and they ask him why he has not gone to finish his work, he told them the ground is too hard... I gave this guy d job because i saw d work he did for some people, just about 10 mins walk from my site... I am saying this to let you know that artisan and nigerians generally are increasingly having this mindset of NOTHING GO HAPPEN... We need them (i cant dig soakaway even if you give me one year), we must devise a new method to face this new challenge, its increasingly worrisome.

dongc:


Ohh I see ...all the best...cheers

topsy23:


Nairabet, Bet Naija and baba Ijebu have taken over their lives. They don't want to sweat before getting money again

n3xt:


Everywhere you turn, you’d almost hit a brick.

- Hausas now ride Okada instead of doing labour work. The hausa labourers you‘d see today are inexperienced and very lazy Hausas. The first thing you’ll hear from them is “How mush I go pay?”
- Because of the increase in demand for their service, Togolese & Cotonou artisans now use apprentice for their jobs.
- Yorubas now do Yahoo+ and Cultism
- Igbo artisans would rather do jobs that pays more.

N2,500 per day is really not cutting it anymore for most of these guys.

EgunMogaji2:


This is the type that I have in mind.

No winch can monitor through there

gbadexy:

Silk is N35000, satin: N30000, matte: N25000.
Subject to discount based on quantity.

Nero2424:


Dude, how long does your paints last if unopened? I still have some left and I have another on going project but not sure if I can hold on to them until am ready to paint.

gbadexy:

I suggested Regal which is my brand name sir.

n3xt:


Everywhere you turn, you’d almost hit a brick.

- Hausas now ride Okada instead of doing labour work. The hausa labourers you‘d see today are inexperienced and very lazy Hausas. The first thing you’ll hear from them is “How mush I go pay?”
- Because of the increase in demand for their service, Togolese & Cotonou artisans now use apprentice for their jobs.
- Yorubas now do Yahoo+ and Cultism
- Igbo artisans would rather do jobs that pays more.

N2,500 per day is really not cutting it anymore for most of these guys.

diordaves:


For future reference, regarding the digging of soakaway, DO NOT commission just one wo/man to dig your soakaway. It is strange to me when I read your experience and realized you used just ONE hand. The chance that the single hand will be overwhelmed leading to site abandonment is very high.

I have never used less than FOUR hands in digging soakaways. No site abandonment and the Job done in about four hours with pure water breaks and chit chat in-between. The attached photo was done by four men for 60k.

Guys if you want to dig a sizeable soakaway, commission a minimum of two hands to at least prevent site abandonment. Site abandonment is very high with lone rangers.

diordaves:


I have never used less than FOUR hands in digging soakaways. No site abandonment and the Job done in about four hours with pure water breaks and chit chat in-between. The attached photo was done by four men for 60k.

n3xt:


This ain’t digging. This is excavation.

The ground shown in the image you shared is as soft as Lekki/Ajah Ground where we use shovel to excavate up to 5m.

I think you need to see hard ground in Abeokuta or Ibadan where you need to blast rocks or soak the ground for days before digging. That’s exactly the type of ground we are talking about.

#hardground

n3xt:


I agree with your submission.

Some even deliberately underquote to get the job. You can’t trust most contractors/artisans completely with your money.

I asked someone to get me 10 bags of cement last week. He bought 4 bags and brought stories

I asked another guy to estimate the quantity of paving stones we need to buy for a small backyard project. He told me 9sqm. I gave him money for 4sqm. We still have almost 1 sqm left.

somehow post=104317676:


If all these are no longer available, who then are you guys using?

Who are your workers @ all Engineers /Contractors on this thread?

oga next just nailed it @ the bolded na Every artisan get their own for body, the best thing is just know how manage we artisans.

There's is a client of mine that you cannot steal even nail from his site, he is always on site to check whether all the materials you quoted for him are being put to use. He trusts no artisans

Unfortunately, you can’t do everything by yourself!

When we talk about managing a very good construction project, it’s actually about managing people and the processes.

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This is one of the reasons I’m not really in for rental properties (at least not in naija for now). I can’t imagine going through all these stress and someone somewhere still decide to owe me or mess up your building.

gandkiss:
Good morning All,
I am planning on using the open concept design for my kitchen and I noticed its rarely used here in naija, just wondering if it won't look odd if I use it.
Please what's your take on this.
Thanks