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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 9:42am On Aug 02, 2021
Covert1:
Nigerian Army

Pix looks like an abandoned fuel station in my town where military has a camp.

Nice pix
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:48am On Aug 02, 2021
Nostradamus1:
Na only one newspaper u dey sell.

Why don't u fact check what SR feeds u.They could have simply checked his asset declaration form. But they must depend on anonymous sources
Meanwhile let me fact check this
The fighter jet was brought down by men of Kachalla’s gang near Kabaru village...

A notorious terror kingpin operating around the Dansadau axis of the vast Kuyambana Forest, Ali Kachalla, was the one responsible for the recent shooting down of a Nigeria Air Force (NAF) Alpha Jet, Daily Trust can report.

When the military jet was downed through the use of heavy artillery power on June 18, no details were available about the incident from both official and unofficial sources and nothing much came out since then.

While the action was expectedly attributed to bandits, the catchword for the armed criminals controlling large swathes of rural Zamfara, Niger, Kaduna, Katsina, Sokoto and Kebbi States, it was unclear who among the several kingpins straddling the area were responsible for downing the aircraft.

But talking to locals, security personnel and other persons with the understanding of happenings in the areas troubled by rural banditry, Daily Trust gathered that Ali Kachalla, a shrewd terrorist with hideout in Kuyambana was the mastermind of the monumental operation.

Kachalla, originally a chieftaincy title in the Kanuri language, is widely used as an honorific for bandits’ leaders in the North-West.

The fighter jet was brought down by men of Kachalla’s gang near Kabaru village, located some 15 km west of Dansadau town.

Spokesperson for the NAF, Edward Gabkwet, in a statement released at the time said the aircraft was attacked while returning from an air interdiction mission between the boundaries of Zamfara and Kaduna States.

While nothing was heard or seen of the ill-fated aircraft, the Air Force released pictures of the pilot, Flight Lieutenant Abayomi Dairo, who successfully ejected from the aircraft.

Daily Trust later exclusively reported how Dairo ran for his life and was saved by locals who ferried him to Dansadau from where he was evacuated by an Air Force helicopter.

Shooting down the NAF jet might be Kachalla’s most daring exploit yet, but for residents in the troubled Dansadau district, his name has been on their lips especially in recent times. He has carried out series of brutal attacks on communities in the district and is known to take special interest in ambushing military personnel.

Unveiling Ali Kachalla

Ali Kachalla, is a young bandits’ leader controlling over 200 armed men in Kuyambana Forest. The forest straddles Zamfara, Kebbi Kaduna and Niger States.

Those who know him said he was born in Madada, a hamlet near Dansadau to a family of herders. He is said to be in his early 30s.

Kachalla’s current base is located along the bank of a river called River Goron Dutse, which is about 25 km south of Dansadau town, one source familiar with the area, told Daily Trust.

Goron Dutse River is situated across the Kaduna – Zamfara boundary, with parts of it in Kaduna State and the other part in Zamfara State.

“His settlement consisting of several strings of thatched huts is on Birnin Gwari side of the river. But, his large herd of cattle being manned by his heavily armed boys is based in Zamfara State,” a source in the area who craved for anonymity told one of our reporters.

“As I’m talking to you his boys can be found in Dandalla, Madada and Gobirawa Kwacha communities. The villages are all situated southeast of Dansadau town. They are all being controlled by the armed men,” the source explained.

Kachalla’s men are described as “fearless fighters” and have been laying ambush for security operatives for quite a long time. His boys said to outnumber most of those in other gangs in the area.

In recent times, Kachalla has stepped up attacks on Dansadau town to protest the blocking of supplies to him from the town and the villagers’ help in the escape of the military pilot who he wanted to capture alive. In one of the attacks, his men set an Armoured Personnel Carrier ablaze, after chasing security forces deployed to the town.

“Dansadau community has drawn the ire of Kachalla and his boys after local traders were blocked from selling food to him,” one source said. “There are some unscrupulous elements among the local traders who still take bread, soft drinks and other groceries to the bandits in the forest.”

The residents of the community recently protested against the business transactions and blocked every move by the traders to deal with the bandits.

Security operatives in collaboration with other residents have stepped up efforts to arrest suspected informants. Last week, Daily Trust reported how 22 suspected informants were rounded up from the town with one of them setting himself ablaze.

The death of Buharin Daji and rise of Ali Kachalla

When the notorious bandit, Buharin Daji, was killed by fellow outlaws in March 2018, a few of his lieutenants rose from his shadows to pick up the gauntlet. Among the Buharin Daji associates who would rise to notoriety were his assailant, Dogo Gide and Ali Kachalla.

Sources said though the two are good friends, they keep separate gangs with Gide marauding through the forests from one place to another while Kachalla remains sedentary on the edge of Zamfara.

Aside from benefitting from members of the old Buharin Daji group, Kachalla also cultivated his men, breaking the barrier into non-Fulani communities.

“There are many youths of Hausa extraction who have gone to join his group, including many residents of Dansadau town; they are with him in the forest,” our source disclosed.

While Kachalla may appear invincible, he is said to have suffered losses a few times in the hands of security forces and in at least one clash with a renowned Ansaru leader in the North-West, Mallam Abba, where Kachalla lost about 30 men.

Shadowy hardliner

Despite his rise to prominence as a result of the men and arms cache he controls, Ali Kachalla remains a shadowy figure, making it difficult to get any picture or video clip of him.

While some bandits’ leaders are known to interact with locals and even visit markets in some areas, Kachalla and most key bandits operating around Kuyambana stay away from any form of direct interaction with the outside world.

“He is a very tough person, a hardliner,” one villager said. “I have met his uncle, Kachalla Sale. The latter had been to Gusau and even Kaduna on peace dialogues but Ali (Kachalla) did not attend any of those sittings.

“This is not to say only Kachalla and his boys are operating in Dansadau district. There are other bandits’ leaders like Dogo Gide, Sani Mochoko, Sani Buta, Danmakaranta, Damina and the rest,” one source said, but multiple sources said Kachalla is perhaps the fiercest currently, overshadowing his old friend, Gide.

Action an affront, treat them as terrorists – Expert

Executive Director of Centre for Democracy and Development (CDD), Idayat Hassan, said the downing of the military jet reveals the vulnerability of the military planes and infrastructure in Nigeria.

“The terrorist organised the attack to intimidate and coerce Nigeria to comply with their demands. It was an attack showing they are powerful. But thankfully, the airman escaped; otherwise, there would have been intense publicity for the bandits and diminishing citizens’ trust in the state.”

The CDD executive director, who has researched the insecurity in the northern states, said “It is frightening that the terrorists possess such potent weaponry to bring down a military jet”.

She said the success of the attack could make them more daring to carry out other attacks.

“This attack could also cement Ali Kachalla as a leader of leaders amongst the bandits while giving other bandits the impetus to down more military planes. These terrorist strategies are adaptive; previously, they create bunkers and taught their wards how to dive and protect cows during an airstrike.

“Bringing down a military jet signifies a complete change in strategy and the government must treat them as terrorists. Nigeria must accept that it is facing a non-international armed conflict again in the North West and must go ahead to prosecute and deal with these terrorists accordingly. A situation where a group of people can hold Nigeria and her people to ransom is not welcome. Nigeria, at this point, should become more worried about the unification of these terror groups with ISWAP and other jihadi groups” she said.

How he can be tackled – Security analyst

A security analyst, Kabiru Adamu, described the attack as ominous, with implications on local security and international relations, including aviation. He expressed surprise that the military which last year announced that it had knowledge of the bandits amassing military-grade weapons did not take action to avert the use of the weapons on its troops.

On how to tackle Kachalla, Adamu said, “There are three things that are absolutely important. Let me start with intelligence; intelligence is very important as it will tell you what, where, how, when and who.

“All of these will be answered by intelligence operatives and the knowledge will be used in carrying out a precision attack against him. That brings me to the second point, which is precision attack. We have tactical units within all our armed security departments. When the US extracted its citizen that was abducted in Niger and brought him to Sokoto, it was with a tactical unit. So why do we have tactical units and they are unable to perform tactical assignments?”

Adamu canvassed for proper kitting of the tactical squads with specialised weapons, vehicles and other tools to enable them to deliver on their assignment.

“There are a lot of concerns among Nigerians at the moment about the incident and we are comity of nations, no country in the world will hear something like this and it will not affect how they relate with us.”

The security analyst further disclosed that if the gunmen can shoot down a military jet, commercial flights could also be at risk.

“So, there are certain countries that will not like this development, analyse it and probably tell their companies not to take the route and that will have a negative impact on Nigeria.

“There are so many implications on that development, if it is easy for the military to say our jet was shot down, what is important is to say how it was shot down and if they know what weapon was used in shooting it down. It will help a lot to bring down the current tension in the minds of a lot of Nigerians.”

https://dailytrust.com/ali-kachalla-unveiling-the-zamfara-terror-kingpin-who-downed-naf-jet
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 10:48am On Aug 02, 2021
Covert1:


You know yourself you are suffering from the early stages of dementia. And why not go and work for CNN best at setting false narratives.

All these mischievous guys with multiple monikers you can actually do something better with your lives rather than ventilating your frustrated and ignorant lives in public.

After hyping vintage aircrafts of your beloved "powerful" sub-saharan African countries you went on to castigate Nigeria's by your carefully chosen degrading incorrect designation of the aircrafts. You are silly, s.ick and high on a new brand of contaminated weed you can't help. How further demented can someone be to go so low like all the other fake news outlets and their minions like you and the lone arrogant deluded Southie still gasping for air here that can't stand the reality of a true giant of Africa.

First and foremost most aircrafts are developed from prior aircrafts save mostly for the United States, Germany in consortium with France and the UK or in some cases Russia that would invest money in R & D for a whole new generation concept of fighter aircrafts.

You carefully designated the aircrafts of those poor countries you mentioned except South Africa to make it high sounding, modern and powerful. I will not join you in that charade. Because that's the joke of the century.

But here are the salient facts: First they are not in the numbers you mention except on paper. Most of them are inactive. Many of them don't meet the specifications necessary to have the advantage in air warfare. Two people can drive the same BMW doesn't mean they are of same specifications. Nigeria's A-29 Super Tucano is not same with that of Mali. In fact Nigeria's Super Tucano is among the most advanced 4th generation Aircrafts in the world for a turboprop, learn to ask why that is so.

Now in summary let us correctly designate the Nigerian Air Force Fleet. We have the JF-17 Thunder not your mischievous J7, that's only in your mind and apparent bitter hatred for Nigeria. The brand new NAF JF-17 Thunder has a beyond visual range and stand off weapon delivery capability with MFDs display and data-links. No sub-saharan Air Force apart from Uganda's Su-30s has BVR but then with no air-to-ground capability and suffering pilot drain.
The NAF JF-17 Thunder comes with what some experts call the world's most advanced air-to-air BVR missile that gives NAF fighter pilots the capability to fire from any angle of attack without having to visually see or get behind enemy aircraft to hit the target with certainty.

The J-7 is the designation for the F-7 still in Chinese PLAAF service and still in use with many air forces world over. It is not your vintage Mig-21 rather the modern version of the Mig-21 from which the Mig-29 and now Mig-35 evolved. The Nigerian Version F-7Ni has a more modern avionics, cockpit, air-to-air and air-to-ground capabilities and versatile for air interdiction and pin-point air defence with excellent turning rates. Try go up against it!

The work horse Alpha Jets of the NAF is more than 13 in number even after some losses due to attrition. The NAF continues to make available this aircraft for sorties round the clock. It has suffered high attrition rates because of its rugged use in active combat over the years from Liberia and Sierra Leone to the Niger-Delta against MEND, The Gambia and now on a daily ground over the North-East against terrorists and in the North-West against bandits. Experts think differently than you think, what they see is a versatile Air Force that can indigenously make available parts for an aircraft that is no longer in production and be able to employ same in air combat duties. This is not known in any other sub-saharan Air Force presently. Those who claim they do we have no evidence nor intelligence they can bring it to bear in actual combat which has proven true in their own domestic quagmire.

Then we have the L-39s which were not intended necessarily for combat when Nigeria bought them but also now employed in combat operations after being retrofitted. Nigeria is sending some of it's other fixed wing aircrafts for upgrades and maintenance overseas while others are done domestically. In addition to that the NAF is acquiring more modern aircrafts on a pace no sub-saharan African nation can match in the short term. Another important factor for the NAF is human capacity which is unrivaled in Africa.

The nations you mentioned is laughable. When you say Sudan and that grandiose you mentioned what comes to mind is Iran telling us it is producing a fighter Jet grin are you calling us nuts! You need to be sent back to kindergarten. This is the Sudan with all its hardware typical of any Arab Army can't stop the secession of South Sudan which trounced it back and forth until it achieved independence. Neither could Sudan quell internal insurgencies except sending its Janja.wee.d militia to rape, kill and pillage in Darfur until UN peacekeepers came in.

Then you mention Ethiopia that was taken to task by tiny Eritrea with obsolete weapons and now your mighty Ethiopia is begging for a ceasefire from it's own Tigray people. You must be kidding us. Where is all their Sukhoi jets you reeled out. Please the joke is on you. The same goes for all the other nations you just mentioned. South Africa got spanked in Bangui by rag tag rebels and fled for safety even begging the French to come save them. Dem no born that country well wey try Naija, you know how we do we go roast them for fire. You can't even try it cos the Nigerians will keep coming until its dignity is acquitted for.

Please stop putting Nigeria in the same category as those nations you mentioned. I only just mentioned some fixed wing aircrafts with which we are doing wonders not even our modern rotary aircrafts some of the best in the world not even Africa and then UCAVs also among the best in the world and number one in all of Africa and then satellite and defense intelligence unmatched and unrivaled which gives us the advantage of first-see-first-kill capability in the event of war. This is just the NAF and beyond all that we have the money and the intelligent set of people to prosecute any war anywhere in Africa even with all our internal wahala to its logical conclusion. When the US tell you Nigeria is the most important country in Africa they know what they mean and that's not because of oil but its people.

Take your child school antics elsewhere.


What do you call a person who starts a conversation with abuse and vitriolic rhetoric

People lacking in capacity and with low self esteem tend to denigrate, castigate and belittle others to feel important.

I will not join you in the gutter or engage with you.

Nigeria is bitter disappointment not just to Nigerians but the entire black race. I will not reduce my expectations and enthroned mediocrity.

Some do here but not ME.

Nigeria needs to stand up and be counted as the true giant of Africa unfortunately this crop of leaders past and present have FAILED.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by CaptainStephen(m): 10:51am On Aug 02, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:


Lol my Gee. When you Dey come back Northeast na grin
grin grin I nor know oooo, e make no difference sef everywhere fight dey cheesy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 10:54am On Aug 02, 2021
EricBraven:

Same way someone in new York would say they don't like your skin color and pick you up,frame you with a crime you never committed and get you lock in jail or better still shoot you during a traffick stop

What you suggest is possible. Yes, a racist can swat me and get me locked up in jail on nonsense charges, but would you rather be in jail in the states or in Nigeria? Plus there's an excellent chance I can fight the trumped up charges, get released, sue and get compensation.

As for getting murdered during a traffic stop, all I can say is lol because if I lived in the US I'm gonna have more cannons on me than a US naval base. I'm talking Glocks, sawed-off shotguns and bolt-action hunting rifles. Anyone getting the drop on me with all that arsenal of mine deserves congratulations.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 10:59am On Aug 02, 2021
Stormtrooper11:

There is no excuse. Same way someone in Finland will pick you up because of your white color and frame you up abi? Nigeria is a black nation. Please let's stop making excuses for crimes
I am not making excuses. Simple
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:05am On Aug 02, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:
Dear All,

What do you all think can be done differently on the Maiduguri-Damaturu highway.

This is just an hour stretch road.

Very very SIMPLISTIC.

If your enemy is fluid and evasive.

You don't contend with him the enemy by being static and blatantly visible.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:08am On Aug 02, 2021
Covert1:


Actually there are so many secrets still not declassified. I doubt the Nigerian people would have gone along with it if made public. Governments often have to balance between domestic realities and foreign policy. All successive Nigerian presidents have been guilty of these secretive missions including the current one. But it's not common to Nigeria alone other foreign powers are guilty of same. This is why a lot of the intelligence and security votes are classified and not actually known. No one knows exactly what's done with all that money. I'm not even sure the president does.

It was not a secret to me.

Mentioned this donkeys ago met a few Nigerian combatants who had come for a number of specialist training courses in the UK.

My Father was still in the British army then and they talked about service in South Africa with the ANC armed wing.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 11:49am On Aug 02, 2021
I know the whole of NA is underperforming but how the artillery corps is more useless is what I don't understand.
These bandits camps are known, how difficult is it to continually bombard them. Must it be the airforce at all times?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 1:07pm On Aug 02, 2021
Whyem15:
I know the whole of NA is underperforming but how the artillery corps is more useless is what I don't understand.
These bandits camps are known, how difficult is it to continually bombard them. Must it be the airforce at all times?
Is even far more cheaper using artillery.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by QuietMynd: 1:29pm On Aug 02, 2021
GabrielYulaw:


[s]Did you say Nigeria is a sovereign country with laws and a justice system? Biko today no be April fool's day. grin grin grin

I hope you know that the same Kyari you are talking about can see you walking in the street, dislike your hair cut and order his men to carry you off. And he can as well dispose of your assets as he sees fit and arrange a very early meeting between you and your ancestors, all without a crime being committed or your being charged with anything. Biko let's talk another thing today.[/s]
What re u saying man, I saw a post on the front page and lift it here. And u start accusing me of something else, some people here just have a dirty mind, that's what is blocking their head from comprehension, since they have their own mission here.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 1:45pm On Aug 02, 2021
QuietMynd:

What re u saying man, I saw a post on the front page and lift it here. And u start accusing me of something else, some people here just have a dirty mind, that's what is blocking their head from comprehension, since they have their own mission here.

My apologies. I actually didn't accuse you of anything. I saw your post and commented my impressions of it. That's all.
And please, it's actually possible to talk without insults. Try it and have a great day!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 2:56pm On Aug 02, 2021
grin grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 3:24pm On Aug 02, 2021
i think they should just extradite allen oyenma and abba kyari together, since some of us has decided to put on bias lens when having conversation concerning the state of our nation.
Some have pronounce him(kyari) guilty even before the court proceeding begins, some here are saying another person will be worst than the current president because the person refuse to fit into your own perceived truth.
How about we start extraditing everyone the FBI ask for and make ourselves puppet, them ask we carry give them like say you no get value.
mtcheew.
A lot of young people need to be taught what patriotism is, you don't just wake up to a news concerning your own people and decide to fly with it without probing what it content is. HABA.
Some want him thrown to the dogs because he is a police officer, once head the SARS division and what not but truth be told will other countries do the same to their citizens when they are requested for extradition ? feed on it

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 3:36pm On Aug 02, 2021
No waste your time chief.
Some here thinks we are protecting a criminal, when no one did such.
I wonder how many Chinese and Russians are also wanted(granted their might be no extradition treaty in place), you see Moscow or Beijing handing them over? but a black man hear FBI, they thought the gods have arrived.
No matter his crime, Nigeria must carry out her own investigation and if found guilty of certain misdeeds, appropriate punishment should follow.
Some saying US have jurisdiction, lol, where? even if these accusations are true, Nigeira could put him on trial and tell the DOJ they can have him once he's done serving his time.
Me, i want him punished if guilty, but don't throw your citizen to a foreign country on a whim. he will also exercise his right to challenge this in court, then those FBI agents will come here with their prosecutors and argue their case.
A Nigerian judge will determine this, no one esle.


EricBraven:
i think they should just extradite allen oyenma and abba kyari together, since some of us has decided to put on bias lens when having conversation concerning the state of our nation.
Some have pronounce him(kyari) guilty even before the court proceeding begins, some here are saying another person will be worst than the current president because the person refuse to fit into your own perceived truth.
How about we start extraditing everyone the FBI ask for and make ourselves puppet, them ask we carry give them like say you no get value.
mtcheew.
A lot of young people need to be taught what patriotism is, you don't just wake up to a news concerning your own people and decide to fly with it without probing what it content is. HABA.
Some want him thrown to the dogs because he is a police officer, once head the SARS division and what not but truth be told will other countries do the same to their citizens when they are requested for extradition ? feed on it

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Coolliot: 3:49pm On Aug 02, 2021
sizzorchan:
No waste your time chief.
Some here thinks we are protecting a criminal, when no one did such.
I wonder how many Chinese and Russians are also wanted(granted their might be no extradition treaty in place), you see Moscow or Beijing handing them over? but a black man hear FBI, they thought the gods have arrived.
No matter his crime, Nigeria must carry out her own investigation and if found guilty of certain misdeeds, appropriate punishment should follow.
Some saying US have jurisdiction, lol, where? even if these accusations are true, Nigeira could put him on trial and tell the DOJ they can have him once he's done serving his time.
Me, i want him punished if guilty, but don't throw your citizen to a foreign country on a whim. he will also exercise his right to challenge this in court, then those FBI agents will come here with their prosecutors and argue their case.
A Nigerian judge will determine this, no one esle.




People are just demanding what they feel the police would do, to a random nobody citizen to be done to kyari. Which entirely isn't a bad thing, and can push them to improve on the way they do things.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 4:00pm On Aug 02, 2021
Coolliot:



People are just demanding what they feel the police would do, to a random nobody citizen to be done to kyari. Which entirely isn't a bad thing, and can push them to improve on the way they do things.
I don't see it that way bro, they want the man trapped because he is part of what you would define as the recognized in the society, former SARS division officer and what to see dent on the image of the police force or largely Nigeria.
If anyone thinks dishing out the same dose of medicine to another person is what would reform the police then we are in for a long ride.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 4:06pm On Aug 02, 2021
sizzorchan:
No waste your time chief.
Some here thinks we are protecting a criminal, when no one did such.
I wonder how many Chinese and Russians are also wanted(granted their might be no extradition treaty in place), you see Moscow or Beijing handing them over? but a black man hear FBI, they thought the gods have arrived.
No matter his crime, Nigeria must carry out her own investigation and if found guilty of certain misdeeds, appropriate punishment should follow.
Some saying US have jurisdiction, lol, where? even if these accusations are true, Nigeira could put him on trial and tell the DOJ they can have him once he's done serving his time.
Me, i want him punished if guilty, but don't throw your citizen to a foreign country on a whim. he will also exercise his right to challenge this in court, then those FBI agents will come here with their prosecutors and argue their case.
A Nigerian judge will determine this, no one esle.



The tribalism that has eaten some people up will take us years to heal from. a lot of re-education has to be done on this generation

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:07pm On Aug 02, 2021
#NN

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by RiceProducers: 4:12pm On Aug 02, 2021
Coolliot:



People are just demanding what they feel the police would do, to a random nobody citizen to be done to kyari. Which entirely isn't a bad thing, and can push them to improve on the way they do things.

The US has no jurisdiction. The man committed a crime against Nigeria (within Nigeria) and Nigerian institutions. He also put the Police Force into ridicule.
His serious crime involved punishing a business rival of a criminal at the criminals behest AND being familiar with a suspect and not reporting said suspect to police authorities.
Ordering the payment of money into another person's account is not a crime.

Many Nigerians had openly begged for handouts from Hushpuppi on IG so whatever secondary charges that can be proved against them could possibly apply to Kyari in that regard but those charges would be flimsy and the impactable space very large. Too many accussed.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Coolliot: 4:14pm On Aug 02, 2021
EricBraven:

I don't see it that way bro, they want the man trapped because he is part of what you would define as the recognized in the society, former SARS division officer and what to see dent on the image of the police force or largely Nigeria.
If anyone thinks dishing out the same dose of medicine to another person is what would reform the police then we are in for a long ride.

Baba, when you get the same result for what you do to people, it would make you sit up
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 4:19pm On Aug 02, 2021
Coolliot:


Baba, when you get the same result for what you do to people, it would make you sit up
I beg to defer, it wont
Me personally it will only pitch me against you more. Then it becomes a cycle

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 4:21pm On Aug 02, 2021
I think one huge factor is protecting him, the position he hold or held. but even if na ordinary citizen, they still have their right to challenge an extradition in court. ( if they have the resources)
just because the guy may or may not be a bad cop doesn't mean he just get handed over to a foreign country. due process should take place and we see what heppens.
Remember, prosecutors always make charges seem like a slam dunk, until defense lawyers pick them apart. So forget about all you've heard about such case, most might not even stand in court. so let's see what happens.
I also think Nigeria should have a law that penalize citizens who commit crimes abroad or transnational crimes. Just for soiling the name of the country should earn them an additional 10yrs grin

Coolliot:


Baba, when you get the same result for what you do to people, it would make you sit up
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Coolliot: 4:23pm On Aug 02, 2021
EricBraven:

I beg to defer, it wont
Me personally it will only pitch me against you more. Then it becomes a cycle


Me, I only do to people, what I know I can accept....he has done worse to people, imagine he locking someone up, and he almost died, just for money, what's the difference between him and an armed robber?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 4:28pm On Aug 02, 2021
Coolliot:



Me, I only do to people, what I know I can accept....he has done worse to people, imagine he locking someone up, and he almost died, just for money, what's the difference between him and an armed robber?
I hope you have evidence too back up your claim sha, because i no follow nah 2k
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 4:30pm On Aug 02, 2021
so many horror stories about that man. how did he get away with all of it. and how many people witness these alleged atrocities. again, in Nigeria rumor spread like wild fire, that made me doubt lots of these tales I've been hearing

Coolliot:



Me, I only do to people, what I know I can accept....he has done worse to people, imagine he locking someone up, and he almost died, just for money, what's the difference between him and an armed robber?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 4:40pm On Aug 02, 2021
sizzorchan:
so many horror stories about that man. how did he get away with all of it. and how many people witness these alleged atrocities. again, in Nigeria rumor spread like wild fire, that made me doubt lots of these tales I've been hearing

one question i have been asking myself, i haven't seen or heard of a case where he is being sued in court with the police force (in case there is any please let me know)
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 5:11pm On Aug 02, 2021
we manufacture certain horror stories.
I'd think any Nigerian with 40 million naira to pay a dirty cop who harassed him should be able to sue the entire Org. that money would be traceable etc. oh well. I'm looking at it from the lense of an outsider of course, just can't believe he did all these and nothing has happened, with being held liable etc.

EricBraven:

one question i have been asking myself, i haven't seen or heard of a case where he is being sued in court with the police force (in case there is any please let me know)
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 6:03pm On Aug 02, 2021
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 6:19pm On Aug 02, 2021
EricBraven:

I don't see it that way bro, they want the man trapped because he is part of what you would define as the recognized in the society, former SARS division officer and what to see dent on the image of the police force or largely Nigeria.
If anyone thinks dishing out the same dose of medicine to another person is what would reform the police then we are in for a long ride.
Legally speaking... US has jurisdiction to try... But the order to NPF to surrender it man might not be legal...
I want to think u and Szzorchan guys are confusing politics with law... They go hand in hand yes.
Politically speaking in the interest of Nigeria's image I would agree we don't allow US try him because whether or not he is guilty, the court process itself would be a backlash onNigeria's integrity, Soveringy etc
But on another side of the coin, it may have serious repercussions. US dollar was used which could have political and economic damage on the US.... It will only affirm the suspicion of some members of US parliament who already see us as corrupt and hence spoil our relationship with the US...

Secondly, in the interest of Justice ,Harmony and political stability, we should reach some consensus adidem where conditions favourable to all parties concerned would be adopted in trying the defendant guilts or otherwise.
I for one don't trust the US, he could really be innocent but has certain information on our politicians they wanna extort for him...am not conspiracy theorist let just stop here wink

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 6:35pm On Aug 02, 2021
bidexiii:



Mount check point for ever 2km to 5km or less, that was how it was done way back. I don't know why they stopped, Alot of people have been killed, kidnapped and unaccounted for on this dangerous and treacherous road.

Before it was destroying power gridlines, it's like this as stopped. They've now resulted into kidnapping, the army HQ should adapt to this terrorist tactics swiftly.

I know you would have lost alot of colleagues playing through this road cool

That's not how it is done in a forward thinking, pro active battle strategy.

By modern armies in today's world.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 8:00pm On Aug 02, 2021
Excerpts from the SADC Technical Assessment report that was done ahead of the Mozambique mission. Had the report weeks ago but didn't want to post it before the mission commenced, for obvious reasons.

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