TheLoneCitizen:


I think this retirement thing is overstated, and is more bants than facts.

Because Turkey sign a lot of older players doesn't necessarily mean the league is pant.

Look at Burak Yilmas for example. Spent all his life in Turkey and moved to a top 5 league for the first time last season.

At 35 years of age, he still dominated and won the French Ligue 1.

Burak Yilmas case is an enigma not necessarily that its a normality, the point still remains that Turkey is not a developmental league

The three players that were handed to Lille in part exchange for Osimhen have been released

This case smells badly

TheLoneCitizen:


If Europe is the criteria for quality, then you are contradicting yourself.

3 Turkish teams have reached the Quarter Finals of the UCL. No Belgium club have ever achieved this.

Turkey has one Europa League semi-finalist, Belgium has never reached this stage.

Yet you rate Belgium as a better development league.

When did Turkish teams reach those feet I am not talking of like 15 years ago please

The turkish teams i see play trash

Every year we see young lads from Belgium get snapped by english, Belgium and french clubs and eventually some later became a phenomenon but can't say same for Turkish league

TheLoneCitizen:


I think this retirement thing is overstated, and is more bants than facts.

Because Turkey sign a lot of older players doesn't necessarily mean the league is pant.

Look at Burak Yilmas for example. Spent all his life in Turkey and moved to a top 5 league for the first time last season.

At 35 years of age, he still dominated and won the French Ligue 1.

Just one stance out of many
Will give u numers from the Belgian league

As it stands in the continental race....let's not forget that if Nasarawa win the aiteo cup it turns to top 4 instead of 3.

Subzero047:


Gbam I wonder why anybody should be comfortable with an U25 Nigerian player going to Turkey, that place is the graveyard of Europe

Me too hold same opinion thats why I will never take nwaziem serious he keep heading to turkey as if he forgot his phone charger there

BascoVanVeli:
As it stands in the continental race....let's not forget that if Nasarawa win the aiteo cup it turns to top 4 instead of 3.

Congrats Basco

Kennedy Boboye really did wonders with awka united. Whooping 71 points wit a match to spare is uncommon in the NPFL

charlesemeka85:
Mr. Amaju Pinnick made a statement on Shola Shoretire playing for Nigeria.

"I spoke with his parents and they gave me their words that he will play for Nigeria. He hasn't represented ��at any level so it was a straight forward decision. He was pencilled down for the U20 Afcon qualifiers. Even if we did the World cup was later cancelled due to Coronavirus.

That said I know how excited he was when he was told about representing Nigeria. No hassles over waiting for ��. He wanted us badly but now we have to wait and see. He is now on the spotlight".

Pinnick has started again, until the boy starts saying "it's flattering to be linked to Nigeria" like his predecessors

Subzero047:


Burak Yilmas case is an enigma not necessarily that its a normality, the point still remains that Turkey is not a developmental league

What do you mean by developmental?

Do you mean playing in the Turkish league doesn't make you better?

Or, players from Turkish league don't develop into bigger teams?

humility33:

Congrats Basco

Kennedy Boboye really did wonders with awka united. Whooping 71 points wit a match to spare is uncommon in the NPFL

Thank you very much. U are right 71, points is not easy. The last to reach that number was Enyimba in 2015. I think Kennedy Boboye is definitely the best coach in the NPFL at this moment. Anybody else would have thrown in the towel after the club sold 2 key players mid season but he kept the boat afloat and has now gotten his reward.

JohnBullMySon:
lol. This can happen to anyone na .

It doesn't have to with who was born abroad and home. Even players born at home will do the same thing. Or was it only the exact 14 players that did it? Even you will do the same thing. Logically, If you were given costly souvenirs will you throw them away to pack uniforms you have already worn?

The only problem here was that they didn't think it through. Small issues like this can make some people very annoyed. Actually, many FB players who play for Nigeria have Nigeria in their heart. Even those who rejected. The thing is that when you have bigger opportunities around you. It's difficult turning it down. If you are a talented executive with great potential, and you have two offers to be CEO of FirstBank or JP Morgan, which one will you choose?

there where 15 players in the team 14 of them born in America did it only the one born and raised in Mexico took her Jersey back and she has posted a picture of the jerseys

TheLoneCitizen:


What do you mean by developmental?

Do you mean playing in the Turkish league doesn't make you better?

Or, players from Turkish league don't develop into bigger teams?

Turkish league is focused on results (crazily) they don't focus on good football or talent development that's why scouts rarely look their way

humility33:

Me too hold same opinion thats why I will never take nwaziem serious he keep heading to turkey as if he forgot his phone charger there

He wants money, he can get all the money he wants for the mean time

Enyimba concede late again!!

BascoVanVeli:


Thank you very much. U are right 71, points is not easy. The last to reach that number was Enyimba in 2015. I think Kennedy Boboye is definitely the best coach in the NPFL at this moment. Anybody else would have thrown in the towel after the club sold 2 key players mid season but he kept the boat afloat and has now gotten his reward.

coupled with your key players that were used in prosecuting the Mexico match

As we stand

Subzero047:


Turkish league is focused on results (crazily) they don't focus on good football or talent development that's why scouts rarely look their way

I agree they don't focus on talent development. That is why it is a big deal when a youngster does well there.

I don't know what you mean by focusing on results and not good football, the Portuguese League is the most defensive in Europe, yet they have churned some of the world's finest.

Turkey isn't that bad, playing against proven players like Ozil every week can't be worse than playing against unproven youngsters in Belgium.

kingphilip:
coupled with your key players that were used in prosecuting the Mexico match

I won't lie I wasn't sure how we were going to fare. Especially with Samson just coming back into the team but once again no matter who the coach plays they always perform.

TheLoneCitizen:


I agree they don't focus on talent development. That is why it is a big deal when a youngster does well there.

I don't know what you mean by focusing on results and not good football, the Portuguese League is the most defensive in Europe, yet they have churned some of the world's finest.

Turkey isn't that bad, playing against proven players like Ozil every week can't be worse than playing against unproven youngsters in Belgium.

'Proven players like Ozil' , proves my point about the old cargoes. I tell you again Turkey is not a developmental league I don't know why you are trying to make non existent arguments

Kenneth Omeruo got 2 boys from his own academy signed to Leganes.

BascoVanVeli:
Kenneth Omeruo got 2 boys from his own academy signed to Leganes.

This is how you pay it forward. Well done to everyone involved.

BascoVanVeli:
Kenneth Omeruo got 2 boys from his own academy signed to Leganes.

Nice one.
Congrats to Akwa united

TheLoneCitizen:


What do you mean by developmental?

Do you mean playing in the Turkish league doesn't make you better?

Or, players from Turkish league don't develop into bigger teams?

It's essentially a retirement league.

When you are coming to the end of your career and no longer able to cut it, in more competitive leagues with better quality players. You go to Turkey ☪ take advantage of the very favourable tax regime and eventually retire.

Its probably the highest paying league for players lacking in true quality.

Blueelf:


Been saying this since ancient times

That dude was overrated

Dark elf has returned to his dark ways. Why say Mikel is overrated

BascoVanVeli:
As it stands in the continental race....let's not forget that if Nasarawa win the aiteo cup it turns to top 4 instead of 3.

As long as Pillars is not there

PROVERBZ:
there where 15 players in the team 14 of them born in America did it only the one born and raised in Mexico took her Jersey back and she has posted a picture of the jerseys

I don't know the details of what occurred and how much of what you're saying is fact, but just know that it's not all about born or not born in Nigeria. And you can't just allow one example to inform your opinion. Last week, Balogun and Metu did call out the Nigerian officials to sit up. That's some level of concern coming from them, Isn't it? Let me just address your genuine concerns.

The main issue with sports is not only government. It's also an interest thing. That comes before government. Also I see that people are absolving the state governments when they should be the ones bearing the brunt of the grassroot developments.

PROVERBZ:
Mexicans are left feeling ashamed after there soft ball federation in an attempt to glory hunt, invited 14 USA born players who have never been to Mexico, don't speak Spanish into their team and left proud Mexicans whose only dream was to represent Mexico and nobody else.
Now fast forward after the tournament the players trew away the uniforms and flags they were given into the trash in other to make space in their bags for free stuffs they got from the Olympics such as bedspread.
Now the news has made all major news sites and the Mexicans feeling so ashamed and coursing out their federation for choosing the easy way out instead of focusing on developing the game in Mexico(inviting people who didn't know jack shit about what being Mexican felt like to represent them.)
I can't wait for this to happen to Nigeria, let's see if we can get some national pride and try to develope the game at home instead of waiting around like a vulture to take unwanted players from this 1st world countries.

I am not surprised anymore.

But l have met multiple youth born and bred in Logos that cannot speak Yoruba.

A large part of the South South youths cannot speak the traditional language of their Fathers.

On the other hand l have met children born in the UK who speak Yoruba and Igbo fluently, not a lot but quite a few.

I could add myself to that list Speaking two Nigerian languages.

Are we therefore more Nigerian than the Nigerian born in Nigeria. I would not say so.

What therfore in your opinion the key component that makes you more Nigerian.

I could say controversially the ability to accept administrative mediocrity, Godfatherism and corruption. But l will not.

humility33:


When did Turkish teams reach those feet I am not talking of like 15 years ago please

The turkish teams i see play trash

Every year we see young lads from Belgium get snapped by english, Belgium and french clubs and eventually some later became a phenomenon but can't say same for Turkish league

These are 2008 and 2013 achievements.

Your second point is relative. Belgium have more youngsters in first teams than Turkey, hence why they got more moves.

For example, in the two seasons before last, 8 of the 20 players who contributed 15+ goals in Belgium were u25.

On the other hand, Turkey had 31 15+ goal players in the same period, but only 3 were u25.

But the funny thing is 100% of those youngsters in Turkey got a move to a top 5 league. While just 5 from Belgium got their move.

So it's obvious, Turkey is so saturated with experienced heads that if a youngster performs well, the big clubs come calling.

And when you say Turkey play trash, that one is subjective.

Belgian champions, Club Brugge are not much better than Besiktas, who won their league.

BascoVanVeli:


Thank you very much. U are right 71, points is not easy. The last to reach that number was Enyimba in 2015. I think Kennedy Boboye is definitely the best coach in the NPFL at this moment. Anybody else would have thrown in the towel after the club sold 2 key players mid season but he kept the boat afloat and has now gotten his reward.

Yes with no dispute he is the best coach at the moment wish he can drafted to manage under 20 team while he understudy any European coach of his choice

Enyimba got 70 points in 2015 remember kadiri Ikhana coached that team

TheLoneCitizen:


These are 2008 and 2013 achievements.

Your second point is relative. Belgium have more youngsters in first teams than Turkey, hence why they got more moves.

For example, in the two seasons before last, 8 of the 20 players who contributed 15+ goals in Belgium were u25.

On the other hand, Turkey had 31 15+ goal players in the same period, but only 3 were u25.

But the funny thing is 100% of those youngsters in Turkey got a move to a top 5 league. While just 5 from Belgium got their move.

So it's obvious, Turkey is so saturated with experienced heads that if a youngster performs well, the big clubs come calling.

And when you say Turkey play trash, that one is subjective.

Belgian champions, Club Brugge are not much better than Besiktas, who won their league.

How come despite Onyekuru play in that league no big club came calling? A youngster in Belgium is rated higher and well priced than a youngster in turkish league

Thanks for enlightening me on the 2008 and 2013 mid success in europe will check further though

komekn:


It's essentially a retirement league.

When you are coming to the end of your career and no longer able to cut it, in more competitive leagues with better quality players. You go to Turkey ☪ take advantage of the very favourable tax regime and eventually retire.

Its probably the highest paying league for players lacking in true quality.

100% true.

But I completely oppose the claim that moving to Turkey as a youngster will regress your game.

Turkey doesn't focus on youth, doesn't mean the league is an abomination.

If you are a youngster, move there, get good numbers and the big clubs will come. Simple.

komekn:



I am not surprised anymore.

But l have met multiple youth born and bred in Logos that cannot speak Yoruba.

A large part of the South South youths cannot speak the traditional language of their Fathers.

On the other hand l have met children born in the UK who speak Yoruba and Igbo fluently, not a lot but quite a few.

I could add myself to that list Speaking two Nigerian languages.

Are we therefore more Nigerian than the Nigerian born in Nigeria. I would not say so.

What therfore in your opinion the key component that makes you more Nigerian.

I could say controversially the ability to accept administrative mediocrity, Godfatherism and corruption. But l will not.

Welcome back komekn