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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 8:49pm On Aug 02, 2021
rotecch77:


Den no dey tell person, I’m sure they will later turn the kitchen to dining and create another kitchen.
“ No be naija we dey.
Not all American design works here. But if you tell them at design stage they will not agreed

Hmmm ok
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:52pm On Aug 02, 2021
It's such a shame that we still have so many close minded people on this thread. This is even after we've seen the envelope pushed by so many others.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 8:54pm On Aug 02, 2021
somehow:
Someone should please help with the costing of this window.

3 in one.

Size = 27 x 30 inches
27 width - 30 height
Good evening boss,did you mean toilet window?
With burglary and net
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:19pm On Aug 02, 2021
Aforxzy:
One of my clients requested for an open kitchen in his personal build. He however added a pre kitchen to the design. The pre kitchen was our regular Nigerian style of kitchen (for our dishes and aroma ) but a smaller one.. Guess what, it turned out well.



Please can you be so kind to put up a pix of the pre-kitchen cum open kitchen so as one can have a better view .......
Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:26pm On Aug 02, 2021
n3xt:


It’ll work though BUT not without huge sacrifices

I know quite a number of ppl who have this. I also have it in one of my recent designs - a complete open plan living.

Please can you tell us more on such sacrifices to mitigate aromas arising from cooked meals especially those done during frying,etc,etc.......

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:41pm On Aug 02, 2021
n3xt:


It’ll work though BUT not without huge sacrifices

I know quite a number of ppl who have this. I also have it in one of my recent designs - a complete open plan living.

I know it will work and I have some people with this design too,
So its possible to have two kitchens in a residential building like MAIN KITCHEN and SATELLITE KITCHEN 2 in 1 …..: you divide your food cooking systems into two.
But my take on it is that when we talk about typical NIGERIA kitchen where real local food will be prepare like EFo riro, Ofe Owerri. Edi nka ikon…. Real pounded yam …..FORGET about fully or partially open kitchen design it won’t work here YES I said so.
You can’t compare the way you cook Nigeria food here to the way you cook it in Florida, villa, Nebraska or Ottawa. Abii Iceland or Norway.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Naijapal: 10:28pm On Aug 02, 2021
House electrical wiring and safety is one area most home owners often do not give much attention. This discussion here is eye-opening:
https://www.kobocity.com/d/197-electrical-wiring-what-you-should-know-before-building

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:51pm On Aug 02, 2021
bixton:


Please can you tell us more on such sacrifices to mitigate aromas arising from cooked meals especially those done during frying,etc,etc.......

Smiles.

There are kitchens and there’s well planned cooking space. What we have mostly in naija builds is a room with furnitures, cooking wares and sink.

A well planned kitchen must satisfy the following space planning requirements during design stage:

- cleaning/washing
- food preparation
- meal cooking/frying
- storage
- service area

Regardless of the design, your kitchen can only be successful when it is organized in a way to optimize performance and efficiency.
Your cooking/frying space must be equipped with hood and your design layout must allow for good ventilation.

If big restaurants can have open plan kitchen, I don’t see why we can’t have it at home.

_________

Unfortunately I don’t have pics but there’s a lovely concept I’ve seen in Oniru. The cooking/frying area of the well-spacious kitchen was at the far end corner of the room. The break-point has a frameless glass partition which protects the smelly odors from getting into the living area.

I wish I can do more but I’d try share the layout later here or on kobocity.com

________

Lastly don’t do this if your wife didn’t recommend or approve of it. Don’t do this for a village bae!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by taiwoodd: 12:15am On Aug 03, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 2:05am On Aug 03, 2021

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 7:57am On Aug 03, 2021
Abroad you generally do your own cooking and will take reasonable steps to ventilate and not overwhelm your house with the smell of your cooking.

In 9ja there is tendency to
1) There is tendency to cook more often in 9ja/abroad most people do one major cook at the weekend(soups and all) and store in the fridge then warm up and maybe make rice or swallow as needed.
2) There is tendency to cook more of our local delicacy with the attendant smell. I used to eat swallow only once a week. There is so much more variety to explore abroad that are quick mild cooks.
3) Helpers will more often put all their cooking on high heat with fast and furious cooking or what my mum calls wa, wa, wo cooking so they can finish cooking quickly
4) Often times the vent is not working or they forget to put it on. Even now with windows they keep leaving almost shut.
5) There is the privacy/security issue with helpers being in close earshot of your conversations.

Unless you intend to have 2 kitchens one for all and sundry and another the open plan maybe upstairs for you and your partner it's not really a good fit for the 9ja environment.

In 9ja its extremely important to factor in privacy, safety and security issues in almost all of your decisions.



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EgunMogaji2:
It's such a shame that we still have so many close minded people on this thread. This is even after we've seen the envelope pushed by so many others.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by YorubaPrince: 8:15am On Aug 03, 2021
n3xt:


Everywhere you turn, you’d almost hit a brick.

- Hausas now ride Okada instead of doing labour work. The hausa labourers you‘d see today are inexperienced and very lazy Hausas. The first thing you’ll hear from them is “How mush I go pay?”
- Because of the increase in demand for their service, Togolese & Cotonou artisans now use apprentice for their jobs.
- Yorubas now do Yahoo+ and Cultism
- Igbo artisans would rather do jobs that pays more.

N2,500 per day is really not cutting it anymore for most of these guys.

Baba, you're indeed MADDD! angry

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 8:26am On Aug 03, 2021
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 8:46am On Aug 03, 2021
n3xt:


Everywhere you turn, you’d almost hit a brick.

- Hausas now ride Okada instead of doing labour work. The hausa labourers you‘d see today are inexperienced and very lazy Hausas. The first thing you’ll hear from them is “How mush I go pay?”
- Because of the increase in demand for their service, Togolese & Cotonou artisans now use apprentice for their jobs.
- Yorubas now do Yahoo+ and Cultism
- Igbo artisans would rather do jobs that pays more.

N2,500 per day is really not cutting it anymore for most of these guys.



You are very correct

There was a day we delivered goods to site and the customer insists we must take the paints upstair and it was just me and the driver
Talking about like 200 drums of emulsion paints
I decided to look for two aboki to help us out
You can’t believe the aboki is charging me 20k last
I was like for what nah but my brother at the end I later up paying them 10k
It’s sad this days everybody just need small job big pay.
May God help us out.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:58am On Aug 03, 2021
Valuepaints20:




You are very correct

There was a day we delivered goods to site and the customer insists we must take the paints upstair and it was just me and the driver
Talking about like 200 drums of emulsion paints
I decided to look for two aboki to help us out
You can’t believe the aboki is charging me 20k last
I was like for what nah but my brother at the end I later up paying them 10k
It’s sad this days everybody just need small job big pay.
May God help us out.


The aboki’s will still give you some value for your money.
Go to almost every major street (I repeat almost every street) in Lagos, there’s always one or more area boys/agberos or land urchins collecting monies for every materials that is moved into the construction site in the area.

Those guys are mostly Indian hemp smoking Yorubas agberos.

What do you make of that?

Suppliers always factor in their cost into every purchases we make.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 9:03am On Aug 03, 2021
Valuepaints20:




You are very correct

There was a day we delivered goods to site and the customer insists we must take the paints upstair and it was just me and the driver
Talking about like 200 drums of emulsion paints
I decided to look for two aboki to help us out
You can’t believe the aboki is charging me 20k last
I was like for what nah but my brother at the end I later up paying them 10k
It’s sad this days everybody just need small job big pay.
May God help us out.

Las las na N500 to carry one drum upstairs. Oh bob, you for call me for that kind job na. Next time no forget me. I full ground for that kind job.

Even medical doctors sef no go make N500 per minute.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 9:13am On Aug 03, 2021
n3xt:



The aboki’s will still give you some value for your money.
Go to almost every major street (I repeat almost every street) in Lagos, there’s always one or more area boys/agberos or land urchins collecting monies for every materials that is moved into the construction site in the area.

Those guys are mostly Indian hemp smoking Yorubas agberos.

What do you make of that?

Suppliers always factor in their cost into every purchases we make.


The most annoying part of all the purchases will tell you is none of their business

While some will reason and consider giving you something.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 9:14am On Aug 03, 2021
diordaves:


Las las na N500 to carry one drum upstairs. Oh bob, you for call me for that kind job na. Next time no forget me. I full ground for that kind job.

Even medical doctors sef no go make N500 per minute.

Lol
May God help us sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 9:30am On Aug 03, 2021
Here it is.


bixton:


Please can you be so kind to put up a pix of the pre-kitchen cum open kitchen so as one can have a better view .......
Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 9:32am On Aug 03, 2021
We do have vented kitchen but some aromas are "stubborn" e.g locust beans..

EgunMogaji2:


Yah all keep mentioning “our aroma”. Don’t yah all have vented kitchens?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:41am On Aug 03, 2021
gabbytabby:
Abroad you generally do your own cooking and will take reasonable steps to ventilate and not overwhelm your house with the smell of your cooking.

In 9ja there is tendency to
1) There is tendency to cook more often in 9ja/abroad most people do one major cook at the weekend(soups and all) and store in the fridge then warm up and maybe make rice or swallow as needed.
2) There is tendency to cook more of our local delicacy with the attendant smell. I used to eat swallow only once a week. There is so much more variety to explore abroad that are quick mild cooks.
3) Helpers will more often put all their cooking on high heat with fast and furious cooking or what my mum calls wa, wa, wo cooking so they can finish cooking quickly
4) Often times the vent is not working or they forget to put it on. Even now with windows they keep leaving almost shut.
5) There is the privacy/security issue with helpers being in close earshot of your conversations.

Unless you intend to have 2 kitchens one for all and sundry and another the open plan maybe upstairs for you and your partner it's not really a good fit for the 9ja environment.

In 9ja its extremely important to factor in privacy, safety and security issues in almost all of your decisions.

.

Good morning Mummy grin

I’m perhaps one of the exceptions that survive Nigeria by creating a Little America in Nigeria.

You know how we have Little Tokyo, ChinaTown, etc in the USA.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:44am On Aug 03, 2021

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 9:51am On Aug 03, 2021
RockOfAgesAlumi:

Good evening boss,did you mean toilet window?
With burglary and net

Not really for toilet, it's for an Atrium opening serving as a "window"
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kiekie1(m): 10:12am On Aug 03, 2021
WE BUY DEAD/SCRAP BATTERIES!!!

We also buy off scrap/dead deep cycle batteries from any state to Lagos (Terms & Condition applies) .

12v 200a ...... N17,000
12v 150a.......N12,500
12v 100a.......N8,500
2v 500a ......N5,500

If outside Lagos state , send the scrap batteries to your nearby Lagos park & get your payment alert immediately after confirmatory remarks from me with the transport company manager / secretary or driver .

Contact,
Smartcell global services
CALL:: 081-350-31951
WHATSAPP::: https:///2348170385620

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 10:17am On Aug 03, 2021
kiekie1:
WE BUY DEAD/SCRAP BATTERIES!!!

We also buy off scrap/dead deep cycle batteries from any state to Lagos (Terms & Condition applies) .

12v 200a ...... N17,000
12v 150a.......N12,500
12v 100a.......N8,500
2v 500a ......N5,500

If outside Lagos state , send the scrap batteries to your nearby Lagos park & get your payment alert immediately after confirmatory remarks from me with the transport company manager / secretary or driver .

Contact,
Smartcell global services
CALL:: 081-350-31951
WHATSAPP::: https:///2348170385620


Is batteries too a building material ?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 10:20am On Aug 03, 2021
somehow:


Not really for toilet, it's for an Atrium opening serving as a "window"
Okay,l mean is toilet size, 600 x 700
Price 25k
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:19am On Aug 03, 2021
RockOfAgesAlumi:

Okay,l mean is toilet size, 600 x 700
Price 25k
Thanks

Okay, the measurements I dropped equals 600 x 700? Nice.

To get it to Ibeju and also installation, how much will it cost in total?

I will provide the design in view if your price ticks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 11:38am On Aug 03, 2021
somehow:


Okay, the measurements I dropped equals 600 x 700? Nice.

To get it to Ibeju and also installation, how much will it cost in total?

I will provide the design in view if your price ticks.
Color of the profile and the glass
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PAPAFEELERS: 11:40am On Aug 03, 2021
Gbadexy , Rottech, NEXT & et All,

Please is Stuccor paint the same thing as reflecting paint, Glass paint?? or are they different paints

How much is the cost per square meter for this paint?

i heard the tradition is to give a quotation of the paint and labour per square meter to the client

Can reflecting paint be used on POP ceiling as well?

Thanks all for the knowledge sharing on this
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:45am On Aug 03, 2021
RockOfAgesAlumi:

Color of the profile and the glass
Proile =Grey/Ash or black

Glass = Plain
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:53am On Aug 03, 2021
Aforxzy:
Here it is.



I love the staging and presentation of the living room. Very in line with modern living. However, for an open plan concept, the living room is looking too compact and dark from the photo.

For an effective open plan concept, there should be a clever use of space from the design stage ab initio. Thought should be given to ventilation not only for cooking but in case of gas leak (health and safety). Mind you, the cooker is in the living room.
Or even fire if electric cooker is adopted.

Good ventilation is also essential because of the home air conditioning system. Will you be cooking on a hot Sunday afternoon with the extractor on and the A/C on at the same time or use natural ventilation if provided in the design?

There must also be natural sunlight flooding in to limit damp. Cooking can generate a lot of steam if not well managed can cause damp and decolour the POP ceiling. So space, ventilation and natural (sun)light are essential in the design of open plan.

And don't forget smoke/fire alarm and carbon monoxide alarm.

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