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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 7:24pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueRayDick:
At Ur leisure time watch Kemi's video on Arise TV talking about Hush's case and how he laundered money for Canadian hackers, and other hackers of different nationalities.

Na big level those guys pull ( that is if Kemi's sources are right o). Imagine conspiring to hack and launder 100m dollars meant for Ventilators during COVID-19

Mehn...FBI had to pick the puzzle bit by bit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wgBQfNo_hA

Wow!! Such an insightful video. I don't know why people hate on this kemi of a woman. She seems to really know her onions.
The 18th minute of the video just showed how foolishness and greed was hushpippis downfall.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:28pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueMann:


Allow me halt you there, chief.

Expected assists is basically the likelihood that a player's pass, or the chance hr creates, will result in a goal. Basically same definition you gave. But I think your interpretation is wrong.

If a player under performs his expected assists, it doesn't necessarily mean the chances he created were poor.

Look at this comparison between TAA and Robbo.

Both created 41 chances from open play in 2019/20, and Robertson had 10 assists to TAA's six (open play). But Robbo had an xA of 4.9, while TAA had an xA of 7.1. So Robbo grossly outperformed his xA, while TAA underperfformer his. Does this mean Robbo is creating more high quality chances than TAA, whom is supposedly creating low quality chanced based on your logic?

No.

By contrast, the fact that TAA has a higher xA than Robbo with both having created same number of chances, shews that Robbo is the one creating the more 'difficult' chances, and TAA is 'unlucky' not to have more assists to his name. 7.1 to 4.9 means TAA was expected to have more assists than Robbo based on the type and quality of passes he played and chances he created!

So the fact that Mount underperforms his xA doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't create Hugh chances, or he creates more poor chances and chances from set pieces. It means, simply, that Mount should have had more assists than he actually had, based on the type and quality of passes he played and chances he created. He, like TAA in the above analysis, is unlucky not to have more assists to his name.

In short, you are indirectly cutting him some slack cheesy

These images should help explain the analysis.
Lol... Thank you.
Exactly what I wanted to explain to him especially that Assist and xA, but thank goodness you did justice to that

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:29pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueMann:


Allow me halt you there, chief.

Expected assists is basically the likelihood that a player's pass, or the chance hr creates, will result in a goal. Basically same definition you gave. But I think your interpretation is wrong.

If a player under performs his expected assists, it doesn't necessarily mean the chances he created were poor.

Look at this comparison between TAA and Robbo.

Both created 41 chances from open play in 2019/20, and Robertson had 10 assists to TAA's six (open play). But Robbo had an xA of 4.9, while TAA had an xA of 7.1. So Robbo grossly outperformed his xA, while TAA underperfformer his. Does this mean Robbo is creating more high quality chances than TAA, whom is supposedly creating low quality chanced based on your logic?

No.

By contrast, the fact that TAA has a higher xA than Robbo with both having created same number of chances, shews that Robbo is the one creating the more 'difficult' chances, and TAA is 'unlucky' not to have more assists to his name. 7.1 to 4.9 means TAA was expected to have more assists than Robbo based on the type and quality of passes he played and chances he created!

So the fact that Mount underperforms his xA doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't create Hugh chances, or he creates more poor chances and chances from set pieces. It means, simply, that Mount should have had more assists than he actually had, based on the type and quality of passes he played and chances he created. He, like TAA in the above analysis, is unlucky not to have more assists to his name.

In short, you are indirectly cutting him some slack cheesy

These images should help explain the analysis.
loaded plenty nonsense together, what you shared doesn't add up, why are you using fullbacks to draw comparisons, is mount a full back or an attacking midfielder and don't bullshit anybody with that claim that he isnt, he plays as a 10 for Chelsea and for England

The article clearly stated that Roberson's chances created required more work from the finisher hence his lower Xa while trent chances were clearer chances that were easier hence his higher Xa, how can you have a low Xa and you say that the chances he creates aren't low quality chances

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:38pm On Aug 03, 2021
Havertz10:
loaded plenty nonsense together, what you shared doesn't add up, why are you using fullbacks to draw comparisons, is mount a full back or an attacking midfielder and don't bullshit anybody with that claim that he isnt, he plays as a 10 for Chelsea and for England

The article clearly stated that Roberson's chances created required more work from the finisher hence his lower Xa while trent chances were clearer chances that were easier hence his higher Xa, how can you have a low Xa and you say that the chances he creates aren't low quality chances


Anytime person bring Mount matter for your side, comprehension go just fly comot from you and sentiments will take over.
Was bluemann talking about fullbacks here or illustrating what Assist and xA really means.

I case you don't know, that stat and pix you dropped the previous page favored Mount instead of havertz but your sentimental mind won't allow you to reason and see things logically

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:43pm On Aug 03, 2021
Segedinho:

There would be another shalaye of coincidence and mere gesture..

https://www.scoan.org/blog/2009/10/13/tb-joshua-on-nigeria-mozambique-match-this-man-will-head-a-goal-for-us/

T.B Joshua predicted Nigeria will score Mozambique with a headed goal ..

It came to pass just as he prophesied.

Did it in any form clear your doubt?

Oga shift cos the only way to verify is yr presence......

Of all the examples u could've used, u chose TB Joshua....lmao grin

The number of unfulfilled "prophesies"TB Joshua had in his life time plenty pass the gazillion of goals wey pele score for him career

Below are the recent ones

https://m.guardian.ng/life/nigerians-reminds-t-b-joshua-of-his-prophesy-on-coronavirus

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37924086.amp

It's not exaggeration o, since I was a kid TB Joshua has been scoring own goals with numerous unfulfilled "prophesies"

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 7:43pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueMann:
And secondly, which one is "why are you people putting Mount among the attacking midfielders at Chelsea "?

Is he a left wingback? Or does he play for Kano Pillars?

Let us criticise, but let us be guided undecided
grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:43pm On Aug 03, 2021
A001:

Mount is a promising talent with lots of room for improvement as a forward.
don't mind the confused clown, Mr chart, he purposely picked the option that places Mount last. While playing dumb like Havertz and Werner didn't miss chances last season

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:49pm On Aug 03, 2021
Jodera:
Anytime person bring Mount matter for your side, comprehension go just fly comot from you and sentiments will take over.
Was bluemann talking about fullbacks here or illustrating what Assist and xA really means.

I case you don't know, that stat and pix you dropped the previous page favored Mount instead of havertz but your sentimental mind won't allow you to reason and see things logically
that's why I said using that comparison is distorted

All attacking midfielders outperform their Xa, if Xa is expected assists and a player's total assists are less than expected, isn't that an indication that the quality of the changes created are low hence the disparity, the article he shared specifically stated that Roberson's chances required more work from the finisher

The kind of chances a fullback will create isn't the same as an attacking midfielder, that's why I said that his comparison was flawed, you are an arsenal fan, I don't understand this hustle of yours

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:51pm On Aug 03, 2021
Segedinho:

There would be another shalaye of coincidence and mere gesture..

https://www.scoan.org/blog/2009/10/13/tb-joshua-on-nigeria-mozambique-match-this-man-will-head-a-goal-for-us/

T.B Joshua predicted Nigeria will score Mozambique with a headed goal ..

It came to pass just as he prophesied.

Did it in any form clear your doubt?

Oga shift cos the only way to verify is yr presence......

You are not tired of disgracing yourself? Na TB Joshua that is a known sham you dey display with confidence

Barely 48 hours to the US. Presidential election, General Overseer of The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations (SCOAN), Prophet TB Joshua, has predicted that the Democrat candidate, Hillary Clinton, will emerge victorious ahead of the Republican candidate, Donald Trump.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/11/us-presidential-polls-hillary-clinton-will-win-says-tb-joshua/
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:52pm On Aug 03, 2021
donjazet:


Wow!! Such an insightful video. I don't know why people hate on this kemi of a woman. She seems to really know her onions.
The 18th minute of the video just showed how foolishness and greed was hushpippis downfall.

Kemi is a brilliant mind but I think she has her demons. Sometimes ago she posted it herself that she experiences mental breakdown, I guess that's why people think her as crazy.(You know how we Nigerians view such things as mental disorder)

As for hushpuppi I guess his greed and attempt to outsmart everyone got him in deep shiiit. He's definitely going to help them FBI get more people in the syndicate

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:52pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Of all the examples u could've used, u chose TB Joshua....lmao grin

The number of unfulfilled "prophesies"TB Joshua had in his life time plenty pass the gazillion of goals wey pele score for him career

Below are the recent ones

https://m.guardian.ng/life/nigerians-reminds-t-b-joshua-of-his-prophesy-on-coronavirus

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37924086.amp

It's not exaggeration o, since I was a kid TB Joshua has been scoring own goals with numerous unfulfilled "prophesies"
Yet he had several ones the came to pass.

And the scenario was very unreal.

So he can argue he prayed about wateva ones that didn't comes through.

The reason I brought such example was to tell raumdeuter that there would definitely be doubt as long as you weren't there to witness it..

The only way to verify is to be there.....no doubt about that...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:54pm On Aug 03, 2021
Havertz10:
why are you guys still putting mount among attacking midfielders at Chelsea

Let me show you something

Havertz10:
I'm loading plenty nonsense together, what you shared doesn't add up, why are you using fullbacks to draw comparisons, is mount a full back or an attacking midfielder and don't bullshit anybody with that claim that he isnt, he plays as a 10 for Chelsea and for England



Pinky: dorq, and I thought I was stu.pid and confused cheesy
Brain: I know


...

Brain: are you thinking what I'm thinking
Pinky: that one of your clown experiments broke lose in NL in your attempt to take over the world

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:54pm On Aug 03, 2021
raumdeuter:


You are not tired of disgracing yourself? Na TB Joshua that is a known sham you dey display with confidence

There will always be doubt and unnecessary shalaye my bro..

U just have yo witness it to be sure

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:58pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:


Pinky: dorq, and I thought I was stu.pid and confused cheesy
Brain: I know


...

Brain: are you thinking what I'm thinking
Pinky: that one of your clown experiments broke lose in NL in your attempt to take over the world
i worry for you, you are not bright at all

I told someone to stop presenting options with mount as an attacker and told another that he should be judged using attacking stats to reveal the flaw that he isn't good enough as an attacker, you combine both to mean that i'm a clown cheesy

Mount created 99 chances and had an Xa of 10

Trent that is a fullback created less 44 and had an Xa of 7.5

How can you create 99 chances and have an Xa of 10 and still end up having only 8 assist as a attacking midfielder cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:59pm On Aug 03, 2021
Segedinho:

Yet he had several ones the came to pass.

And the scenario was very unreal.

So he can argue he prayed about wateva ones that didn't comes through.

The reason I brought such example was to tell raumdeuter that there would definitely be doubt as long as you weren't there to witness it..

The only way to verify is to be there.....no doubt about that...

List the ones that came to pass and let me provide you with numerous that failed. If someone jamtalk 10 times 2 go hit

The founder and president of Synangogue Church of Nations prophet TB Joshua has release another prophecy concern Nnamdi Kanu. According to him the republic of Biafra will be established on September this year and Nnamdi Kanu will be the first Biafra president the following month.

He said Biafra restoration will come with peace and prosperity. There will be no blood shed, there will be no war, there will be peace in Southeast. But the top Igbo Politicians will come to take over Biafra Government, but they will not succeed. Because the United Nations will give Nnamdi Kanu the power to decide for Biafra Government.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:01pm On Aug 03, 2021
Segedinho:

There will always be doubt and unnecessary shalaye my bro..

U just have yo witness it to be sure

You mean TB Joshua wey predict Biafra by last year October or predicted Clinton win na him we suppose believe

No wonder you believe in scams like that

Of 10 EPL games, anyone can predict 2 winners and claim he is A jazzman and soon you will start worshipping him
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:03pm On Aug 03, 2021
Chelsea selling kids and well, stealing others as well, another barca star, Ilaix Moriba to Chelsea.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 8:03pm On Aug 03, 2021
Segedinho:

Yet he had several ones the came to pass.

And the scenario was very unreal.

So he can argue he prayed about wateva ones that didn't comes through.

The reason I brought such example was to tell raumdeuter that there would definitely be doubt as long as you weren't there to witness it..

The only way to verify is to be there.....no doubt about that...

Bros make I no lie, TB Joshua didn't have any several fulfilled prophesies anywhere.

When I was much younger my old man usually buys Tribune newspaper every Saturday. On the last Saturday of the year Tribune will do a special feature of list of prophesies by Naija pastors that didn't come to pass that year. You know what, year in year out TB Joshua always makes the list. grin

The man prophesies too cast abeg, no be today
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:07pm On Aug 03, 2021
Lukaku will go to Chelsea if Inter Milan accept Chelsea’s next offer. "I didn’t say no chance, I said he’s untouchable because when I speak to inter people they always say he’s not leaving, the beauty of the market is things can change." - @FabrizioRomano on Twitch cheesy this guy can be posting this in parables, and Fabricating stories at times
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:09pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Chelsea selling kids and well, stealing others as well, another barca star, Ilaix Moriba to Chelsea.
that guy is a beast, if we are truly going after him, I will celebrate
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:09pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Bros make I no lie, TB Joshua didn't have any several fulfilled prophesies anywhere.

When I was much younger my old man usually buys Tribune newspaper every Saturday. On the last Saturday of the year Tribune will do a special feature of list of prophesies by Naija pastors that didn't come to pass that year. You know what, year in year out TB Joshua always makes the list. grin

The man prophesies too cast abeg, no be today
On that you lie bro..

I watch the prophesy myself bro.

U can call it mere guessing.

My point is actually the doubt itself.

More questions and shalaye on the net.

The only way to verify is seeing it with your 2 naked eyes.

Otherwise we are just chatting for fun.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 8:11pm On Aug 03, 2021
Havertz10:
that's why I said using that comparison is distorted

All attacking midfielders outperform their Xa, if Xa is expected assists and a player's total assists are less than expected, isn't that an indication that the quality of the changes created are low hence the disparity, the article he shared specifically stated that Roberson's chances required more work from the finisher

The kind of chances a fullback will create isn't the same as an attacking midfielder, that's why I said that his comparison was flawed, you are an arsenal fan, I don't understand this hustle of yours
Lol... Forget why I'm an arsenal fan or not, na football we dey discuss for here.

Now this is a definition of expected assist. Meaning it's a good likelihood that the pass or chance created might likely turn into a goal.

This your idea of saying the chances Mount created is poor is you just forming it, cos if indeed it is, then it won't be graded under xA metric (cos obviously, the likelihood is that it won't turn into goal which invalidates the xA metric).

So many players have had assist that ordinarily, it won't be put under the xA metric stat.

Also, let's see list of Ams in EPL and their assist to xA metric

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:15pm On Aug 03, 2021
Segedinho:

On that you lie bro..

I watch the prophesy myself bro.

U can call it mere guessing.

My point is actually the doubt itself.

More questions and shalaye on the net.

The only way to verify is seeing it with your 2 naked eyes.

Otherwise we are just chatting for fun.


Did you watch where he predicted Hillary Clinton win live? or where he predicted Biafra live?

Or where he predicted other fake stuff like this below

https://www.nairaland.com/1333241/pastor-t.b-joshua-predicts-dat
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 8:23pm On Aug 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Chelsea selling kids and well, stealing others as well, another barca star, Ilaix Moriba to Chelsea.
That boy is strong and has technique. He can be a very good backup but I wonder why they want to sell such a talent.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 8:38pm On Aug 03, 2021
WhoDeyHause:

That boy is strong and has technique. He can be a very good backup but I wonder why they want to sell such a talent.

From what I gather, he refused to renew
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:57pm On Aug 03, 2021
Moriba is a younger Bakayoko, I don't want him near Chelsea.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:59pm On Aug 03, 2021
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 9:05pm On Aug 03, 2021
Havertz10:
that guy is a beast, if we are truly going after him, I will celebrate

Do you know him?

I watched that guy replace an injured Busquet in the 18th minute against ATM. I don't think I will ever see a more stupid and unprofessional performance from a supposed footballer in the foreseeable future.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 9:08pm On Aug 03, 2021
Amoto94:
Moriba is a younger Bakayoko, I don't want him near Chelsea.

I believe a younger Bakayoko was better before he lost his way
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:47pm On Aug 03, 2021
Borussia Dortmund rejected a €130M offer from #Chelsea for Erling Haaland last week. The Germans would prefer to lose Haaland for €75M next summer. [via @AlfredoPedulla]
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:49pm On Aug 03, 2021
Amoto94:
Moriba is a younger Bakayoko, I don't want him near Chelsea.
younger Bakayoko? HOW? He isn't even a DM, Just an 18year old Midfielder
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 9:54pm On Aug 03, 2021
Havertz10:
that guy is a beast, if we are truly going after him, I will celebrate

Puig is the real deal

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