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Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 7:42pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: The one olu317 called you a blant lier or the one d igbo guy called you a lying machine Or the one i figured you're a transgender Lying machine 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 8:00pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: And you're my lying machine |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 8:03pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: You're disgrace to the transgender ⚧ community Your actions made the mods pull down a beautiful political thread you and kingsmen automatically turned into a cultural typhoon You're disgrace.... More obsssesion to your madness |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 8:07pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:LMAO! I am not a transgender. You just can’t imagine that a woman pulled down Benin kingdom. Olu (or anyone) can call me what they like if I debunk them. What they can never say, however, is that @gregyboy debunks me. No sane non-Edo person can ever say that. Guess what, many Igbos (and Yoruba) belief firmly that YOU are TAO’rag — not just that you’re a liar. You see the difference? Cc: r4bbit 4 Likes |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 8:12pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:That is you making a consolation claim for yourself. That is not on the same level as a 3rd party saying that YOU are TAO’s rag. Notice that three parties are involved: An Igbo man making a claim about an Edo boy w. r. t. a Yoruba lady. See attached Cc: r4bbit 4 Likes
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Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 8:19pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:I am not a transgender. Believe it or not, a woman is capable of debunking the Benin lies about Yorubas. I know you don’t want to believe it’s a woman who’s been debunking you all along. Your brother was spamming with fake videos which I’ve debunked. That’s the most likely reason why the mods stepped in. Deep down, you’re glad it was pulled down. You were literally raped by me on that thread. See attachment for an example from an old thread. Cc: r4bbit 6 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 8:25pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: Even Olu31 called you a transgendered he knew you well And called you a lying machine... Lol... Your yoruba kingsmen know you lie through your skull but they can't help it than to give you support Olu317 was thesame guy who has dished out likes and support for you against benins but when you both loggerout yourself , he couldn't hold it anymore |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 8:27pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11:
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Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 8:29pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:No I am not. Even though he also lies a lot, he did not. Show proof like I’ve been doing. [s]And called you a lying machine... Lol... Your yoruba kingsmen know you lie through your skull but they can't help it than to give you supportOlu resorting to insult because I disproved him proves that I sunk him intellectually. What Olu or anyone (Igbo or Hausa) never dared to do is to imagine that gregyboy debunks me. Never! Instead, Igbos (and Yorubas of course) are of the view that YOU are my rag. You see the difference? See attachment for an Igbo’s testimony. 4 Likes
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Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 8:44pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965. Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history. The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder. See for example: A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al. A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below: Cheers! Cc: r4bbit 7 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by nisai: 9:03pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11:No take the guy bait abeg. E wan escape ni. 2 Likes |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 9:08pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
nisai:Lol. Got it. 4 Likes |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:17pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: Tell me how did they debunk it, and how did they draw the conclusion ooni of ife was ogane n uhe.... Lol As far as i know Oduduwa was samuel johson invention of 1897 If i am lying post any written account of oduduwa both from benin or yoruba documented about Oduduwa before 1897.... nisai, olu317, theTranslator samuk, gomojam Truthbeatslies |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:18pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: Mention is full moniker olu317 scardy cat He deliberately ended it at olu... Have i ever typed your name half before... upon my constant flogging daily you only fear olu... |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 9:24pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:Okay Olu317. LMAO! But I don’t have to. Since I don’t need him to flog you. I’m enough. How does that save Benin kingdom? If he comes here he’s coming to tell me I’m doing a great job. If we have our separate argument (that has nothing to do with Benin) that wouldn’t stop me from flogging him IF he lies. 4 Likes |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:30pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
[quote author=TAO11 post=104541464]Okay Olu317. LMAO! How does that save Benin kingdom? If he comes here he’s coming to tell me I’m doing a great job. If we have our separate argument (that has nothing to do with Benin) that wouldn’t stop me from flogging him IF he lies. [/qouote] Go bring evidence your imaginary Oduduwa existed before 1897 Remember ajayi crowther gave the history of yoruba people in 1850 did he include Oduduwa yes or no... |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 9:32pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:[/s] Tell you? LMAO! I gave you the references to their works for a reason. Do you have phobia for reading? [s]As far as i know Oduduwa was samuel johson invention of 1897[/s]No it wasn’t. [s]If i am lying post any written account of oduduwa both from benin or yoruba documented about Oduduwa before 1897....[/s]If you’re saying the truth, then prove your claim by citing any any peer-reviewed work which backs you. Yes, it is you making a claim (a laughable claim for that matter) who have a burden to provide proof. Not the other way round. Cc: nisai, olu317, theTranslator samuk, gomojam Truthbeatslies 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:33pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Yoruba has always been attaching their ill history to that of benin since 50bc, they love greatness which is cool But stealing it through words is unacceptable |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:37pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: Leave that lets go straight... Let's see if Oduduwa was really ancient or was a fairytale made up by Samuel johson in 1897 post any written account of oduduwa both from benin or yoruba documented about Oduduwa before 1897.... nisai, olu317, theTranslator samuk, gomojam Truthbeatslies 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by r4bbit: 9:38pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies Am back ...oya cum and answer my question Olodo ... And i see you have a new accomplice Gregyboy.... 2 Likes |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 9:38pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:Just as I can ask that you prove that I’m your imaginary great-grand father exist. This should be easier for you to prove. Shouldn’t it? [s]Remember ajayi crowther gave the history of yoruba people in 1850 did he include Oduduwa yes or no...[/s]He probably didn’t because he he wasn’t a historian to begin with. So, he didn’t write anything extensive — it is not his field. Also, Yorubas (and their history) began thousands of years before the period of the historical Oduduwa. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 9:44pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:We should leave the fact that Ryder was debunked by historical scholarship? Okay. Let's see if Oduduwa was really ancient or was a fairytale made up by Samuel johson in 1897Just as we would see if your great-grand father truly exist, and that your family name is truly correct? Okay! cool. post any written account of oduduwa both from benin or yoruba documented about Oduduwa before 1897....Post any written account of your greatgrandfather from Benin or Yoruba documented about his name before 1900. If you can’t, then what? The stupidity of your request should start to become apparent to you by now. Moreover, it is (s)he who makes a claim who has the burden to proof the claim — onus probandi. If you’re truthful, then prove your claim by citing any any peer review work which backs you. Cc: nisai, olu317, theTranslator samuk, gomojam Truthbeatslies 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by TAO11(f): 9:47pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:Nope! The Binis insisted adamantly to the Europeans that the Ife-Yorubas are the ancestors of Benin kings. This is well documented. 5 Likes |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:52pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: This ends it..... Our discussion has ended today Bye bye If ajayi crowther an oyo man as Samuel johson Could write in 1850s on yoruba history and skip Oduduwa and, johson wrote 30yrs after and it magically appeared... Is god not wonderful....lol 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 9:54pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: Because they wanted some political goodies back then.... But you my friend is forcing it to be true.... You're clown |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 10:01pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Oduduwa was invented by Samuel johson in his book history of yorubas in 1897.... Samuel ajayi crowther never mentioned any existence of oduduwa in his document on the origin of yoruba people ajayi had written is account earlier than Samuel.. J Benin attaching herself to the Oduduwa myth in the early 20th century in a bid for political favour gave life to the myth |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by r4bbit: 10:40pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy: Johnson did not invent anything that has not already been. In fact Johnson only emphasised on the more realistic folktale of oduduwa .. 2 Likes
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Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 10:42pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
r4bbit: You self dey laugh because you know say Oduduwa na scam |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by r4bbit: 10:47pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy: I will give 50$ now in your paypal account if you can prove that in 2 minute... 1 Like
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Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 10:51pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
r4bbit: You b scam something tells me you're igbo making fun of Yorubas |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by r4bbit: 10:53pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:You just wasted the 2 minute.... You know what i give you anoda 1 minute... |
Re: Insecurity: We are building on a castle that is already collapsed — Ooni Of Ife by r4bbit: 10:55pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Times up.... |
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